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dangerousdood	Posted - 2009.07.26 19:56:00 - [1] Hello because of the character name and advice from T'amber (ships of eve lotto holder) i am entering this character into a lottery, I will message T'amber to confirm this Stuff the rules state must be on post + Positive Wallet (around 1M) + All ISK must be sent to the character being sold. + Character has over 5.6M SP + Set of +3 Implants installed into the clone + Not interacted with anyone else in eve before the sale of the character. + Character is and always has been in an NPC Corp. + As Stated by CCP i must pay the transfer fee. Other Stuff + 2 Remaps Avaliable + Neutral Standing + 0.00 Sec status + Location: high sec trade/mission hub Skills + All Base learning skills V + All Advanced learning skills V + Engineering V + Mechanic V Training Towards + http://eve-sheet.com/skills/dangerousdood Lotto Info Tickets up for sale: 300 Tickets Sold: 0 (last updated: hasn't been yet) Price Per Ticket: 10M ISK ISK must be sent to The character being sold, with the reason "LOTTO" or something similar. I Will be using this site to make the lotto draw: http://www.random.org/ Character will be tranfered once all the tickets have been sold and the number has been drawn. If the lotto takes over a week i have a buyer that i will sell it to. FULL REDUNDS will be given if this is the case. + I reserve the right to cancel the lotto if the tickets are not sold in 1 week, if the tickets are not all sold then FULL Refunds will be given. Goodluck to everyone who enters
Satynic	Posted - 2009.07.26 20:06:00 - [2] Lol?
dangerousdood	Posted - 2009.07.26 20:08:00 - [3] Edited by: dangerousdood on 26/07/2009 20:08:37 Originally by: Satynic Lol? ?... this is a legitamate lottery, the CCP comunity managers have been mailed about this lotto also. Tickets are 10M each and there are many avaliable. Regards Davo
Advocent Payne	Posted - 2009.07.26 20:12:00 - [4] Tickets are too expensive for this toon IMO
Deladian	Posted - 2009.07.26 20:15:00 - [5] well at least it wont be a scam if people do want to get involved, since its against the rules to create scams involving character sales.
dangerousdood	Posted - 2009.07.26 20:15:00 - [6] Originally by: Advocent Payne Tickets are too expensive for this toon IMO I thank you for your opinion but for 10M ISK your getting the chance to win a max learning character, these are worth a nice sum of money. I think thsi is a fair price, this price was suggested by T'Amber the holder of the ships of eve lottery. Regards Davo
Commander Righteous	Posted - 2009.07.26 21:14:00 - [7] this was attempted and even helped by T'Amber as 3rd party isk holder. It IS a great idea. Keep going with it no matter what they say. Their are tons of people who, if they don't like it, or most, who don't understand it say its a scam or illegal or overpriced w/e. bump
Kisumii Chimera Raiders	Posted - 2009.07.26 21:49:00 - [8] I Buaght a Ticket... :)
dangerousdood	Posted - 2009.07.26 22:04:00 - [9] Originally by: Kisumii I Buaght a Ticket... :) Confirmed first ticket sold.
T'Amber starvald emurlahn	Posted - 2009.07.27 03:53:00 - [10] Hi :) Although I don't know Dangerousdood I told him I thought it was a good idea. 1:300 odds for 10mil isk isn't bad odds and as this is the character forum scamming for characters is not allowed. Perfect learning skills is pretty awesome too :) Goodluck T'amber
Klendaxor Caldari Carpe Jugulum.	Posted - 2009.07.27 03:59:00 - [11] Edited by: Klendaxor on 27/07/2009 04:03:37 Originally by: dangerousdood Originally by: Advocent Payne Tickets are too expensive for this toon IMO I thank you for your opinion but for 10M ISK your getting the chance to win a max learning character, these are worth a nice sum of money. I think his point was, it isn't simply 10m, it is 3b that you are looking for - this char would never sell for that, so you are effectively short changing possible entrants by inflating the odds. Were it 200 maximum tickets, i'd buy one, but at 300 tickets, it isn't a good enough ratio. EDIT: and you obviously already know this, as you were begging for a 1.8b buyout not long ago
dangerousdood	Posted - 2009.07.27 10:01:00 - [12] Originally by: Klendaxor Edited by: Klendaxor on 27/07/2009 04:03:37 Originally by: dangerousdood Originally by: Advocent Payne Tickets are too expensive for this toon IMO I thank you for your opinion but for 10M ISK your getting the chance to win a max learning character, these are worth a nice sum of money. I think his point was, it isn't simply 10m, it is 3b that you are looking for - this char would never sell for that, so you are effectively short changing possible entrants by inflating the odds. Were it 200 maximum tickets, i'd buy one, but at 300 tickets, it isn't a good enough ratio. EDIT: and you obviously already know this, as you were begging for a 1.8b buyout not long ago The only reason i was asking for such an amount was becuase i have 3 other characters for sale and i dont want to pay an extra month. Selling atleast 1 in time would give me the ISK to extend the other acounts by 1 month to train more skills.
Klendaxor Caldari Carpe Jugulum.	Posted - 2009.07.27 10:33:00 - [13] Originally by: dangerousdood The only reason i was asking for such an amount was becuase i have 3 other characters for sale and i dont want to pay an extra month. Selling atleast 1 in time would give me the ISK to extend the other acounts by 1 month to train more skills. Infact what the hell, ill reduce the tickets becuase there are alot of people complaining and i cba with it. the tickets will be reduced to 225. This SHOULD make the lotto end sooner, increase the chance of winning and increase participation so its mutually beneficial. You realise that 3 months worth of game time is about 1.2b, right? Irrespective, a good excuse doesn't make a high price worth paying. That said, props for lowering the price to a more reasonable price, when I login I will buy a ticket as I promised
Guilty Gear	Posted - 2009.07.27 10:37:00 - [14] Yeah I'm not gonna lie either 300 x 10mill 3bill? kinda like yeah....Sounds like your just trying to find a smart way of tricking people into buying tickets, "10mill for a character?!?! no way I'm buying a ticket!" you sell out on tickets and you bank on it. Like the idea tricky, I also respect the sudden change it makes a bit more sense. Might buy me a ticket myself now.
dangerousdood	Posted - 2009.07.27 11:03:00 - [15] Originally by: Klendaxor Originally by: dangerousdood The only reason i was asking for such an amount was becuase i have 3 other characters for sale and i dont want to pay an extra month. Selling atleast 1 in time would give me the ISK to extend the other acounts by 1 month to train more skills. Infact what the hell, ill reduce the tickets becuase there are alot of people complaining and i cba with it. the tickets will be reduced to 225. This SHOULD make the lotto end sooner, increase the chance of winning and increase participation so its mutually beneficial. You realise that 3 months worth of game time is about 1.2b, right? Irrespective, a good excuse doesn't make a high price worth paying. That said, props for lowering the price to a more reasonable price, when I login I will buy a ticket as I promised Thank you although i believe its more like 4 months and the other fhalf a month im spending on core skills to make the character better :)
plumbasher	Posted - 2009.07.27 13:17:00 - [16] how can you say a char is worth 1.2bill in game time you should spend the 4 months logging in and changing skill etc or you pay for that privelige a char is worth whatever aomeone will pay for it nuff said lotto is good idea also
Kate Inferno Amarr	Posted - 2009.07.27 17:53:00 - [17] Apologies for the probably repeatedly answered question - is the randomness of this kind of character sale verified in anyway? Buying a few tickets regardless - but I would purchase considerably more if it was verifably random. Please don't take this post personally, more of a general question that is not covered in the sticky.
Kate Inferno Amarr	Posted - 2009.07.27 17:56:00 - [18] Bought 20 tickets, Cheers, Kate
dangerousdood	Posted - 2009.07.27 18:38:00 - [19] Edited by: dangerousdood on 27/07/2009 18:43:18 Edited by: dangerousdood on 27/07/2009 18:40:22 Originally by: Kate Inferno Apologies for the probably repeatedly answered question - is the randomness of this kind of character sale verified in anyway? Buying a few tickets regardless - but I would purchase considerably more if it was verifably random. Please don't take this post personally, more of a general question that is not covered in the sticky. Originally by: Kate Inferno Bought 20 tickets, Cheers, Kate Confirming receipt of isk and assigned you numbers. I will either send each person their Lotto Number/Numbers via eve-mail. Unfortunatly it is not verifiably, but, becuase you have brought this to my attention i shall make it so, i shall view other people lottos to find out how they do this. Standby this is my current goal lol. ANy Suggesions? I shall try to find another lotto with this. Regards Davo
dangerousdood	Posted - 2009.07.27 18:52:00 - [20] Edited by: dangerousdood on 27/07/2009 18:51:53 Good news the number is now verifable i will use an extrenal site: http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/ which is the same site as the one T'Amber is using for the ships of eve lottery, i will paste a link directly to the dice roll. Once the draw has been made. Regards Davo
Kate Inferno Amarr	Posted - 2009.07.27 18:58:00 - [21] Brilliant! Thanks, perhaps a mod could add this information to the sticky.
Daemolus	Posted - 2009.07.27 19:07:00 - [22] This really is a great idea; a lot of respect to T'Amber. I'll buy 20 when I get home. :)
dangerousdood	Posted - 2009.07.27 20:30:00 - [23] bump
Rescued Ranger	Posted - 2009.07.28 00:14:00 - [24] Put me down for 5 sir.
Selukia Minnie	Posted - 2009.07.28 02:27:00 - [25] I think it is a great idea
The Harrowed Caldari Multi Link Enterprise Gemini Federation	Posted - 2009.07.28 04:36:00 - [26] Originally by: dangerousdood Edited by: dangerousdood on 27/07/2009 19:18:23 Edited by: dangerousdood on 27/07/2009 18:51:53 Good news the number is now verifable i will use an extrenal site: http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/ which is the same site as the one T'Amber is using for the ships of eve lottery, i will paste a link directly to the dice roll. Once the draw has been made. Also to remove any possible confusion about who ahs which number and whatever and to stop any mistakes that could be made by myself i will post everyones number/numbers when the lotto is drawn. I am keepings everyones numbers on the characters notepad inagme, and a textfile on my PC to ensure the lsit is not lost. Regards Davo Not a good idea.. You should have a list in the thread of all purchases, and what # they are PRIOR to drawing, as well as a confirmed username to have listed that you will be using with a link to the character in the roll notes. That way it's verifiable and people can find out exactly what numbers they are prior to the draw.
T'Amber starvald emurlahn	Posted - 2009.07.28 06:33:00 - [27] Edited by: T''Amber on 28/07/2009 06:35:47 Looks like this is going well! Just some ideas... Dangerousdood also post your account name to the InvisableCastle roller before you draw the winning number with a link to your roles (By using the search function on the top right of the page). This way people can see what numbers you have drawn. Also post the numbers people have in this thread so people can see who has what ticket, do this BEFORE you draw numbers so people know the number they have before hand. Just a note, people CANNOT influence the numbers that come from this site. It is designed for roleplayers so that they can role thier stats, and so that they CANNOT cheat. Also, regarding the comments of what the character is worth, normally in lotteries people will make money from it (except me lols). So you need to expect some profit. With 300 tickets with odds of 1:300 that pretty good odds. and Bump T'amber
Captain BrewSir Gallente Gallente Republic The Gallente Republic	Posted - 2009.07.28 06:47:00 - [28] sent isk for 2 tickets.
dangerousdood	Posted - 2009.07.28 08:31:00 - [29] Thanx T'amber I shall do this, i will also add it to the post with everyones numbers.
dangerousdood	Posted - 2009.07.28 10:47:00 - [30] Okay this is the account link to my account profile where the draw number can be found once the draw has been made. http://invisiblecastle.com/profile/DangerosoDavo/ DangerosoDavo = Me. I will post a direct link to the dice roll once the draw has been made to reduce any possible confusion. Regards Davo

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