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Sader Rykane
Amarr Midnight Sentinels
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Posted - 2009.07.29 23:22:00 -
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*whistles*
Dood... chill.
Losing ships isn't the end of the world, god knows I've lost plenty, and more likely than not ships that were waaaay more expensive than yours.
Look at every loss as a way to learn something, thats what I do. Then use those lessons to help you become a better pilot.
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Kathraine Avila
Amarr Biotronics Inc. Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.07.29 23:28:00 -
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I almost got ganked in a carrier once by a bunch of rats. That damn station and its alpha strike. True story.
I was horrified.
Furthermore: Your troll is probably a honest statement. If so: You suck.
If not: Good troll. since I replied.
Keep going for those stars at the horizon, Kat (which is not related to Cat )
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente War is Bliss
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Posted - 2009.07.29 23:30:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina so guys I heard eve is dying is it true?
It expands and expands until there is nothing left!
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2009.07.29 23:37:00 -
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Edited by: Barakkus on 29/07/2009 23:37:12
Originally by: Andrea Griffin I'll agree that many of Eve's players can be jerks, but I have also found that they are only jerks if you are a jerk or a whiney brat first. I have been popped and podded and ransomed and a dozen other things, but that's part of the game. I wave, send a GF, or if the enemy was exceptionally well organized or executed a plan very well, I'll send an EveMail to them and tell them so.
This^^
To the OP: I've never had someone smack me over a fight, and I don't smack anyone out of respect for my opponent. Hell half the time I get blown up I usually get some advice on what I did wrong and learn from it.
If you think the people playing this game are "jerks" try playing WoW sometime. I rarely log into my WoW account anymore b/c the people there make me want to go on a killing spree irl. I have never met people as horrible as WoW players (and most of the WoW players in EVE will agree). WoW players in general are the worst of the worst of the s****of humanity, this is like going to an etiquette school in comparison.
Honestly, don't play a PvP game then rage when you get killed, it's the nature of it, and there's absolutely no reason to make this game more PvE friendly than it already is.
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Gunnanmon
Gallente UNITED STAR SYNDICATE
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Posted - 2009.07.29 23:37:00 -
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Excellent post. In the future, please use monosyllabic words so the imbeciles can understand it.
Thank you. Signature locked for discussing moderation. Navigator
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente NME1
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Posted - 2009.07.29 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ezevector dip****s. ****** ****s *******s ****ing **** ****s "**** ****s bull****. ****stick ****sticks
Potty mouth.
-- The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then --
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The Crushah
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.07.29 23:48:00 -
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I sense great anger...as if someone recently lost a Hurricane...
Seriously, to parrot what has already been said, be nice to the people who kill you. I am always nice to the people who convo me after they have died and ask questions or have a laugh about it. I try to provide fitting suggestions or places to avoid or where to make ISK. On a couple of occasions, ive even sent them ISK to get themselves back on their feet.
Its all about attitude.
Oh the other hand, if you start screaming at me in local, calling me a jerk, loser, coward, or in one extreme occasion, death threats, dammit im gonna shoot you again, maybe find your ship in empire and suicide you just out of spite.
For the sake of balance here I must confess the first time I died in EVE was in Decon. I was less than a month old and trying to mine in a Thorax. I was quickly killed by a toon who has been out of the game for a long time now. Fortunately I have yet to die at the hands of Bellum. Trista Rotnor is another story...
I learned a lot from that death, and now I feel that im returning the favor to other noobs.
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Khemul Zula
Amarr Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.07.29 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: Gunnanmon Excellent post. In the future, please use monosyllabic words so the imbeciles can understand it.
Thank you.
Well in fairness, monosyllabic words are the only ones that should be trusted. They are simple folk that simply wish to be left alone and live off the land. Get too many polysyllabic words together and they start plotting invasions and genocide, with large armies of monosyllabic slaves ready to die for them.
And it's even worse with contractions. But luckily they don't gather in large enough groups to be much a of threat to the world. God help us if the contractions and the polysyllabics decide to starting working together....
"In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded."
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Nito Musashi
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Posted - 2009.07.30 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: Khemul Zula
Originally by: Gunnanmon Excellent post. In the future, please use monosyllabic words so the imbeciles can understand it.
Thank you.
Well in fairness, monosyllabic words are the only ones that should be trusted. They are simple folk that simply wish to be left alone and live off the land. Get too many polysyllabic words together and they start plotting invasions and genocide, with large armies of monosyllabic slaves ready to die for them.
And it's even worse with contractions. But luckily they don't gather in large enough groups to be much a of threat to the world. God help us if the contractions and the polysyllabics decide to starting working together....
lol i approve of this post.
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Mr Reeth
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Posted - 2009.07.30 00:53:00 -
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Every time you undock say to yourself "This ships is gone. This clone is gone. The ones that took it from me are kittens. We are all kittens."
I hope this helps you calm down. There really is no reason to let this game stress you to the point that you are damaging your health.
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Pater Peccavi
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.07.30 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Reeth Every time you undock say to yourself "This ships is gone. This clone is gone. The ones that took it from me are kittens. We are all kittens."
I hope this helps you calm down. There really is no reason to let this game stress you to the point that you are damaging your health.
You're giving the phrase "killing kittens" a non-sexual connotation. Please stop. ______ Why has the number of players online dropped from 50k to 25k? BECAUSE OF SWINE FLU |
Arvald
Caldari The Lumberjacks
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Posted - 2009.07.30 01:48:00 -
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This thread has now been Arvalded, everyone is required to get naked and dance
ok but seriously, next person that derails my thread gets a railroad spike shoved through their neck |
Khemul Zula
Amarr Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.07.30 02:40:00 -
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Originally by: Arvald This thread has now been Arvalded, everyone is required to get naked and dance
What if we were already naked?
Oh nevermind...had a sock on.
"In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded."
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2009.07.30 02:50:00 -
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If you don't like it, play something else.
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Zartanic
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Posted - 2009.07.30 02:55:00 -
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Originally by: Anslo It doesn't matter, carebears are taking over now, look at most of the recent expansions, all PvE related, not pvp. PvE is taking over, pvp is getting less and less popular. And CCP will continue to cater to carebears, wanna know why? Cash. That's what it comes down to, cold, hard, cash. The majority of players are carebears, and tha majority is the biggest bulk profit for CCP. Bottom line business sense wise, CCP will cater to the bulk, and the bulk are carebears. Get used to it, your "ballscreaming" as OP put it will do you no good. Carebears decide what happens, not pvpers. Get over it :)
As a self confessed Carebear (for now anyway) I disagree. The major fun part for me is the fact some bastard wants to kill me or screw me over. I would hope that's true of most PVE players or they are in the wrong game.
But tust because someone likes PVE it does not make them soft, doing PVP is not some activity for the hard men out there, its a game and its just pixels, so who gives a toss if a ship is lost?
The Op is not a carebear, he's just in the wrong game and very bad at basic research. Many of us do proper research on a game and are well aware of what the game is like and its why we like it.
If anyone moans klike the Op hes just
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Batolemaeus
Caldari Money Liberation Services Corp
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Posted - 2009.07.30 03:46:00 -
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This thread is just asking for it. ----------------------------------------------
Originally by: CCP Prism X In New Eden, EVE wins you.
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HankMurphy
Minmatar Pelennor Swarm THE KLINGONS
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Posted - 2009.07.30 04:06:00 -
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Edited by: HankMurphy on 30/07/2009 04:06:14
Originally by: Ezevector Okay, here's the deal. "Cry more, n00b" (Translation: "I need this. My stepfather ****s me.")
For some people this is true. Well, the fact they need it, not the stepfather part. After a tough days work sitting next to the worse cubicle neighbor in existance... perhaps 2 hours of traffic on the way home where you just want to KILL the guy in the next lane picking his nose for an hour for no reason.... the dumb ***** at the restaurant that couldn't seem to understand you didn't want onions and somehow managed to get you EXTRA....
see, these high stress moments in life you have 3 choices: -bottle it up and let it kill you -flip out at every hint of pressure in your daily life -set it aside and take that **** out on someone else later
i love the 3rd one. i also love blowing up ships that belong to people like the OP
you know what makes it better? you know what really REALLY makes me relish in their pain and anguish? When they take it personally (like the OP). It's really all i ask to blow up someone elses internet spaceship... holding out hope that someone somewhere far away is screaming at their computer is just icing on the cake.
Knowing the guy you just blew up may be crying, shaking, logging onto the forums to rant and rave. Writing long drawn out monologues on the philosophical flaws of a competitive system and how much you hate that fa66o7 douche bag that just blew up your hauler
It's not you. Your not taking it wrong, it's the rest of the world, they are all mean and inconsiderate and you are just misunderstood and looking for justice for your game play style. Never mind the game was BUILT to be a pvp game, this isn't a company run game for profit, this is a god damn public service and you have a right A RIGHT! to play the way you want unhindered by the other 20,000 people playing the game.
OP, i highly suggest you contact a lawyer and reap the justice you so sweetly deserve directly from CCP's bank statment.
Originally by: Ezevector
"If you don't like it, play something else."
or you could, you know... go play something else ---------- Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy mother*****r |
Zamaranth Sesta
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Posted - 2009.07.30 04:13:00 -
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Edited by: Zamaranth Sesta on 30/07/2009 04:16:34 This has got to be the most boring PVE game I've played.
I have more fun with browser games than this darn missions which are just clicking on little red boxes in the overview until they are all gone.
Its like crossing things slowly off a list.
If you somehow want to play this without getting ganked you havn't checked out your choices.
The only thing that keeps it interesting is the pvp where you actually take things and cost the other players and things like the wise oss comments people make here that are refreshingly different.
Some really funny stuff in the thread that I couldn't have enjoyed without immersing myself in the boring context.
Its got so many different pieces of equipment and ways to use them to learn about and consider sometimes you forget its boring. (although other mmorgs have that too)
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Kratznotzt
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Posted - 2009.07.30 05:32:00 -
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Excellent post, even though the language didn't always pass the profanity filter. I know exactly what the OP is talking about and I have a 30% loss rate of ships vs. times I've entered low sec.
The best part in this topic is that the people who cries over the fact that PvP is growing stale and that low sec is underpopulated can't see the parallells between the feelings of the OP and the problem of getting new players into PvP. How are we supposed to get to low sec if we automatically get popped in the first low sec system we enter.
Making a career of getting popped or scammed is not very lucrative, nor is it fun. Then getting the "L2P" of "qq some more..." replies when pumped up with adrenaline from desperately trying to get away is not fun either. So many new players prefer to stay in high sec and never ever go to low sec again while low sec is getting less and less populated as the old players get fewer and fewer each day as they gradually get bored of the game.
Just think about how many first year players were left two years ago, last year and today and you will see a declining trend. If this game do not get new players into low sec there will eventually not be a low sec player base left. If they don't enter because they get ganked within 20 seconds after they enter, they will stay in high sec until they get bored and quit the game.
So the "if you don't like it, just quit..." line does affect you all, whether you like it or not. As the OP says: "Maybe we actually will quit." And believe me or not, you wouldn't like it if we actually would quit, and neither would CCP.
So "L2Think" once you've "L2Play". We PvE players don't need you PvP:ers, but you need us. So grow up, suck it up, and be a little more constructive. Who knows, maybe you actually would learn something from it.
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Cyberman Mastermind
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Posted - 2009.07.30 05:44:00 -
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Originally by: Kahega Amielden What topic? The OP's sitting there ****ing and moaning because he doesn't like EVE.
I haven't read all of the OP, but I think the topic of this (and many other) thread can be summed up as:
Eve-Players are jerks and revel in it.
To which I have to agree, mostly. Especially on the forums, but that is hardly new information. |
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Khemul Zula
Amarr Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.07.30 05:46:00 -
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Originally by: Kratznotzt So the "if you don't like it, just quit..." line does affect you all, whether you like it or not. As the OP says: "Maybe we actually will quit." And believe me or not, you wouldn't like it if we actually would quit, and neither would CCP.
Not so sure about PVPers, but I'm pretty sure producers of T1 items would all have instant orgasms at the news.
It would be rather messy around here for a few days afterwards....
"In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded."
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Kratznotzt
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Posted - 2009.07.30 05:51:00 -
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Originally by: Khemul Zula
Originally by: Kratznotzt So the "if you don't like it, just quit..." line does affect you all, whether you like it or not. As the OP says: "Maybe we actually will quit." And believe me or not, you wouldn't like it if we actually would quit, and neither would CCP.
Not so sure about PVPers, but I'm pretty sure producers of T1 items would all have instant orgasms at the news.
It would be rather messy around here for a few days afterwards....
Yeah, right. Like the older player base would buy any T1 items. Just check the ships and modules section and you can pretty soon realize that the only people who buys T1:s are the new players...
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Schalac
Caldari Apocalypse Reign
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Posted - 2009.07.30 06:11:00 -
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I was going to come back to the game and take over Oipo once again, then I switched skills and logged off.
I like playing EVEMON more than EVE atm for some reason. I think it was the goofballs like myself that dominate EVE. You know who I mean, the ones with remote rep alts in logi ships and always have a falcon cloaked on the outskirts of the grid.
Sometimes I like to just log in insure a ship and go out to lowsec or 0.0 to slug it out with someone else. No alts no gang bonuses no remote repping alts.. Just my torp raven and any other BS that is there. Clash of the titans type combat where two may enter but only one may leave. I find these people sometimes and it is fun, exciting, unknown and truly skill based combat. Is my fit going to hold out long enough to off this guy or am I going to be jamming the warp to button incessantly to get my pod out of harms way??? Unfortunately though lately these battles just don't happen. So there I go logging in alts again and micromanaging remote reps, ECM, nutes, target painters, warp out/warp in timings of different characters and scanner alts for when they run away... That gets boring quick when I just want to plow into someone and let the better pilot win.
This was most amplified by the last two BS fights I was in. One was "badass" DD mega that couldn't get my raven past 40% shields before I was sending him into hull. He brought out a Oneiros and I lost the fight, and all of a sudden my Raven is garbage because mega's always own Ravens right...right. The next one was a pulsepoc that would "make scrap metal of my lolraven" Until he found out that I fitted an EM rig and had 80% EM damage reduction on my shields. Once again here comes the Gardian this time to save his ass as he approached 20-25% armor. And once again my lolraven lost the battle.
So bring a remote rep yourself you say.... WHY?? I say. So that we can sit there shooting at each other while we warp our remote repping alts around when they get locked? Only to bring them back to battle to throw out a quick repair and then warp away again? BORING. SCHALAC HAS SPOKEN |
Ancy Denaries
Caldari Solaris Operations
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Posted - 2009.07.30 06:14:00 -
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Profanity is certainly going to help you. Oh yes it will. Also, maybe you should've done some research prior to joining a PvP based game? EVE revolves against PvP in all forms, if you don't like it, why did you join? ----- Why doesn't anyone ever read the forums before posting? EVE is a game of adaptation and planning. Adapt or die. |
Zamaranth Sesta
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Posted - 2009.07.30 07:03:00 -
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Better complaints: Lots of aspects of the PvP are lame ... I want more opportunity to get in a fair fight and less crap like 10 to 1 gate camps, station games, log on traps etc. whether or not I'm on the dishing or the receiving end.
Have a T1 frigate zones where only two targets can engage with each other or the evil force of some local Tyrant of war would sort of "concord" all other ships out of existence. You could dream up some sort of NPC who relishes watching such combat and rules that part of space.
Low sec isn't getting deserted because newer players don't want pvp, but because its not always workable to get a group of people together equipped to handle whats there and when you do get a bigger group together you pretty much scare people off or just hope to get some cheap kill on an unsuspecting overwhelmed target.
I want to play for an hour or two, I want to be sure I find some people to fight, I don't want to kill people who my group vastly outnumbers, or only kill them if they jump into a trap that they'd be helpless to escape after I've been sitting around doing squat for 45 minutes.
Getting killed by overwhelming force while looking for a competitive fight makes it hard to go look for a good fight...plus wasn't exactly fun either.
All fights don't need to be fair.. I'm fine with the existence of unfair fights....a lot of the game is about conquest of system and politics and stuff and I'm not saying thats broken (I don't really know, but it sounds like it works)
But gee, there got to be ways to dream up ways for people with similar numbers, equipment and maybe spell points to run into each other.
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Kateryne
Minmatar Nisaba Syndicate New Eden Retail Federation
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Posted - 2009.07.30 07:16:00 -
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Reading some other posts by the OP, he appears to have have included just as much "you're doing it wrong" and "that's not how the game is played" content in his posts as he is complaining about other players doing. Maybe you should just remove your own attitude before you start trying to change other peoples?
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Schalac
Caldari Apocalypse Reign
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Posted - 2009.07.30 07:47:00 -
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Originally by: Zamaranth Sesta Better complaints: Lots of aspects of the PvP are lame ... I want more opportunity to get in a fair fight and less crap like 10 to 1 gate camps, station games, log on traps etc. whether or not I'm on the dishing or the receiving end.
Have a T1 frigate zones where only two targets can engage with each other or the evil force of some local Tyrant of war would sort of "concord" all other ships out of existence. You could dream up some sort of NPC who relishes watching such combat and rules that part of space.
Low sec isn't getting deserted because newer players don't want pvp, but because its not always workable to get a group of people together equipped to handle whats there and when you do get a bigger group together you pretty much scare people off or just hope to get some cheap kill on an unsuspecting overwhelmed target.
I want to play for an hour or two, I want to be sure I find some people to fight, I don't want to kill people who my group vastly outnumbers, or only kill them if they jump into a trap that they'd be helpless to escape after I've been sitting around doing squat for 45 minutes.
Getting killed by overwhelming force while looking for a competitive fight makes it hard to go look for a good fight...plus wasn't exactly fun either.
All fights don't need to be fair.. I'm fine with the existence of unfair fights....a lot of the game is about conquest of system and politics and stuff and I'm not saying thats broken (I don't really know, but it sounds like it works)
But gee, there got to be ways to dream up ways for people with similar numbers, equipment and maybe spell points to run into each other.
You sound like me. SiSi is your answer. Dedicated zones for fights, the only problem is that it is a controlled environment and you don't cause the other guy grief if they lose. I like grief. Honestly being grieved is the only reason I run missions. To make the money back that I lost. On SiSi you can take 5000 isk and outfit a dread for POS bashing. So no fun really in winning there. I just wish more people didn't fall into the outnumber or runaway crowd that plays this game. Everyone is so worried about looking good on kill boards and a few million ISK than just fighting for fighting's sake. Me I never report anything, unless it was a gank that I perpetrated on some macro miner somewhere, and I have 6 accounts and 18 characters to report so most times I just let others report my losses. Losses are good, specially when you have loads of them and people say, lol look at him he has no wins and is an easy target, and you destroy everything they throw at you. SCHALAC HAS SPOKEN |
Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.07.30 07:57:00 -
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Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 30/07/2009 07:58:38 Why so sleeperous?
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.30 08:06:00 -
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Originally by: Salliene I was playing Risk with my brother the other day, but he kept attacking my countries, killing my armies, and taking my territories. Today I am writing an angry letter to Milton Bradley letting them know how many people they are losing by allowing these grief tactics to continue in their game.
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Vrenth
Gallente Lightning Industries
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Posted - 2009.07.30 08:07:00 -
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Originally by: Ezevector Stuff
Cry more, noob.
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