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Jambi Oiad
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Posted - 2009.07.29 22:40:00 -
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I started a couple years back as a Caldari Civire and my character currently has 10 million SP. I just re-activated after this long break and was browsing ships and noticed that I really like the style of Amarr ships vs Caldari.
Does it make sense to just train up those skills for Amarr ships on my Caldari character or is there a real benefit to re-rolling?
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Agent Known
Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.07.29 22:47:00 -
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Originally by: Jambi Oiad I started a couple years back as a Caldari Civire and my character currently has 10 million SP. I just re-activated after this long break and was browsing ships and noticed that I really like the style of Amarr ships vs Caldari.
Does it make sense to just train up those skills for Amarr ships on my Caldari character or is there a real benefit to re-rolling?
If you're at 10m SP, you probably have a lot of support skills and all your learning trained up. With that being said, it's not worth re-rolling because you'll be stuck training all those again. Just cross-train and you'll be set.
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Estel Arador
Minmatar Estel Arador Corp Services
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Posted - 2009.07.29 22:47:00 -
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There is absolutely no benefit to rerolling. Just train the relevant skills on your current character.
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Baka Lakadaka
Gallente Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.07.30 01:54:00 -
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Originally by: Estel Arador There is absolutely no benefit to rerolling. Just train the relevant skills on your current character.
^^This
Do a skills plan in EveMon and then re-map your attributes accordingly. EveMon can assist with the *neural re-map planning as well.
*Neural Remapping - this is new, so I'll take a second to explain. New characters get to do this twice in the first year, everyone else gets one go every year. Neural remapping is the ability to change your base attributes. Say you decide to train up Trade, Social and Leadership skills over the next year and your character is Caldari Achura with a nasty disposition (i.e. a base Charisma of 3). You can now re-map your base attributes to turn your charisma 3 character into a happy sociable little soul who's a delight to meet, by stealing from Intelligence and Perception attributes and remapping them across to Charisma. ______________________ Isn't it time you learned to fight back? Agony Unleashed Home of the PvP University.
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Salpad
Caldari Carebears with Attitude
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Posted - 2009.07.30 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: Jambi Oiad I started a couple years back as a Caldari Civire and my character currently has 10 million SP. I just re-activated after this long break and was browsing ships and noticed that I really like the style of Amarr ships vs Caldari.
Does it make sense to just train up those skills for Amarr ships on my Caldari character or is there a real benefit to re-rolling?
Your current character already has some useful support skillz. Caldari is shield tanking and missiles (or sometimes railguns/blasters), while Amarr is armour tanking and lasers, but there are still some skillz in commong. You might have skill in Destroyers or (more likely) Battlecruisers, which is not race-specific (unlike Frigate/Cruiser/Battleship), you might have Weapon Upgrades and (more importantly) Advanced Weapon Upgrades. You almost certainly have capacitor skillz, and Amarr will benefit from them just fine. Then there's navigation skillz (Navigation, various AB/MWD skillz).
Also Learning Skillz.
There's no good reason to respec now, unless you dislike the way your character looks. And even then, only if you really dislike it. And plenty of reasons to stick with your current character, and just buy the Amarr Frigate book and take it from there.
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Ancy Denaries
Caldari Solaris Operations
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Posted - 2009.07.30 05:23:00 -
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Edited by: Ancy Denaries on 30/07/2009 05:23:28
Originally by: Salpad *leetspeek*
Say after me... Skills. I know you can do it: Skills. ----- Why doesn't anyone ever read the forums before posting? EVE is a game of adaptation and planning. Adapt or die. |

Estel Arador
Minmatar Estel Arador Corp Services
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Posted - 2009.07.30 09:19:00 -
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Originally by: Ancy Denaries
Originally by: Salpad *leetspeek*
Say after me... Skills. I know you can do it: Skills.
It's useless, he insists on writing it that way. I've tried to explain to him that deliberate spelling errors detract from the message of his posts and have a negative effect how readers view him, but he doesn't seem to care.
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Ancy Denaries
Caldari Solaris Operations
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Posted - 2009.07.30 10:16:00 -
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He probably thinks he's very cool and original. Too bad it got out of style about 10 seconds after it was done the first time somewhere on a BBS in the 80s. ----- Why doesn't anyone ever read the forums before posting? EVE is a game of adaptation and planning. Adapt or die. |

Draeklore
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Posted - 2009.07.30 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Jambi Oiad I started a couple years back as a Caldari Civire and my character currently has 10 million SP. I just re-activated after this long break and was browsing ships and noticed that I really like the style of Amarr ships vs Caldari.
Does it make sense to just train up those skills for Amarr ships on my Caldari character or is there a real benefit to re-rolling?
Do not reroll there's never really a reason to reroll (unless you screwed up your attributes twice or something lol).
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Eleana Tomelac
Gallente Eclats de verre
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Posted - 2009.07.30 15:02:00 -
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Now that we can remap, there's absolutely no use at all to reroll!
If you have crap attributes : use your neural remap, do it carefully.
If you want to fly another race's ships : train for it, you already have half the prerequisites to flying properly ships from the other race you trained.
I fly 3 races, and I'm happy with it. The hard part is switching the tanking. I started gallente, trained amarr (because they look good) and then minmatar (because their rust buckets look cool). This is what I noticed for the skills that do not need to be trained again : -Fitting and capacitor skills -Gunnery or missiles skills (may have to train the other, but with some mixed weaponry ships it makes them work great) -Prerequisites for the T2 ships -Prerequisites for many usual 'cross-race' modules (AB, MWD, DC, EW, tackling gear...) -Navigation -Drones (they are everywhere)
All you've trained in those areas will be useful for other races! So, no reroll, it makes god kill kittens. -- Fanfest memories : I looked in your eyes And I found the galaxy Now I'm stuck in eve.
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Jose Black
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Posted - 2009.07.30 17:19:00 -
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One might consider rerolling if you don't like your avatar (to save the fee for changing it). You need to reroll if you don't like the characters name, gender or race.
Else: don't.
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Joe Starbreaker
The Fighting Republicans
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Posted - 2009.07.30 19:20:00 -
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If you do decide to reroll (as many of us did when we were new), you can sell the old character in the Character Bazaar forum. The going rate is 200-400 million per million skillpoints. If your skills are focused, you might get paid well for the character, but if they are random, maybe less. Try for 2-3 billion. That'll be a nice bankroll to start your new life with.
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Cleerly
Amarr Advance Naval Guard N0BLESSE OBLIGE
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Posted - 2009.07.30 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Ancy Denaries Edited by: Ancy Denaries on 30/07/2009 05:23:28
Originally by: Salpad *leetspeek*
Say after me... Skills. I know you can do it: Skills.
Everyone knows z's make everything cooler =D --------------------------
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Zamaranth Sesta
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Posted - 2009.07.30 23:56:00 -
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pfft
"Skillz" is funnier that "skills".
I'm a bored 45 year old.... I like to be exposed to different lingo as a diversion.
QQ at my /V3UU $|{1úú2
Although I needed to use a translator to do that.
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Agent Known
Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.07.31 04:44:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Starbreaker If you do decide to reroll (as many of us did when we were new), you can sell the old character in the Character Bazaar forum. The going rate is 200-400 million per million skillpoints. If your skills are focused, you might get paid well for the character, but if they are random, maybe less. Try for 2-3 billion. That'll be a nice bankroll to start your new life with.
Don't forget that you have to pay the $20 transfer fee when you do sell, so be sure you want to. 
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Kezzle
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Posted - 2009.07.31 08:23:00 -
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Originally by: Zamaranth Sesta
"Skillz" is funnier that "skills".
That's a... unique sense of humour you have there.
You do know that telling the same joke over and over again renders it entirely unfunny, don't you?
You do also know that "skillz" is nowadays a mostly ironic reference to the skill level of a person, and that it's never really been used to refer to the numeric descriptors of a character's attributes that affect in-game mechanics. Characters can't have 'leet skillz' because any old joe can have them, so they're not 'leet'.
Just thought you might like to be exposed to the actual meaning and sense of the word, rather than operating under a misconception.
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Industry
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Posted - 2009.07.31 09:03:00 -
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Originally by: Salpad Skillz blah blah skillz blah blah skillz.
Don't listen to the haterz.
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RiotRick
Black-Sun Pitch Black Legion
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Posted - 2009.07.31 10:36:00 -
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Wut da hack r u talkin bout? U meen skizzlez, dont ya? -- The future is black.
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Saartje Sarel
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Posted - 2009.07.31 15:12:00 -
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The main thing to keep in mind when contemplating a new character gen is not sp but COST of all those skill books.
You can comfortably expect to gobble up in the region of 30m initially and if you dont want to sit around for weeks training, 80-90m for +4's etc.
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Ivanna Nuke
Daralux
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Posted - 2009.07.31 15:40:00 -
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12mil here, and I got bored of Gallente, and have begun to cross train Amarr, I've already got Hull Upgrades V Mechanic V etc... so not a problem.
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