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CyberGh0st
Minmatar
Ara Veritas
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Posted - 2009.07.31 16:31:00 -
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Owkay, here is the setup :
[Hurricane]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
10MN Afterburner II
Cap Recharger II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor M
XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Drone Link Augmentor I
Ancillary Current Router I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Infiltrator I x1
Infiltrator I x1
Infiltrator I x1
Currently I have everything fitted, except the T2 active hardeners, I am using T1 named and training Hull Upgrades V to use T2.
The problem is, according to EFT, the T2 hardeners won't fit, I will be 2 CPU short ( 502/500 ).
Could there be anything I missed in training that might allow me to fit the T2's ?
I have trained :
Electronics V
Electronic Upgrades IV ( training this to 5 will have no effect on this setup right? )
Weapon Upgrades V
Thats all that I can think of for reducing cpu need or getting more cpu output.
Thanks in advance :p
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Pater Peccavi
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.07.31 16:34:00 -
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Switch the missile launcher for the Limos version (or Arbalest, if you want to be spendy).
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demonfurbie
Minmatar
Kinky Killing Kleptomaniacs
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2009.07.31 16:39:00 -
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change
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range
to the meta 4 one same stats less cpu
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Kurfin
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Posted - 2009.07.31 16:39:00 -
[4]
Edited by: Kurfin on 31/07/2009 16:40:28
I can't think of any skills that would help you either.
Best suggestion I can come up with would be to drop either the tracking computer or sensor booster for a named version. Unless you are feeling rich, then I'd swap out one of the Gyros for a republic fleet one.
Edit - Damm beaten to it 
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.31 16:42:00 -
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SeBo change as said:
[Hurricane, s]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
10MN Afterburner II
Cap Recharger II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Prototype I Sensor Booster, Targeting Range
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor M
XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Drone Link Augmentor I
Ancillary Current Router I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Infiltrator I x1
Infiltrator I x1
Infiltrator I x1
:)
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Wideen
Warped Mining
Strip Mining Club
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Posted - 2009.07.31 17:31:00 -
[6]
KMB-25 should solve your problem if you don't wanna replace any of your current mods
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.07.31 17:33:00 -
[7]
Energy Grid Upgrades?
Cheap faction AB?
Or maybe ditch the Drone Link Augmenter, since it's of pretty limited utility.
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Lindsay Logan
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Posted - 2009.07.31 17:33:00 -
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I also belive the Malkuth heavy lauhver uses less spu.
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Kahega Amielden
Minmatar
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.07.31 17:58:00 -
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Yeah. Your first recourse on any tight fit is to checked named mods.
also, 1% CPU implants are only a few mil.
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CyberGh0st
Minmatar
Ara Veritas
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Posted - 2009.07.31 18:05:00 -
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 Originally by: Pater Peccavi
Switch the missile launcher for the Limos version (or Arbalest, if you want to be spendy).
Thats a nice and easy change, I should have figured that out myself 
So I can at least make everything fit, altho I probably end up with arbalest  I didn't use them anymoyre because they are pretty expensive, taking into consideration my lack of good heavy missile skills compared to the rest of my skills.
Thanks
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CyberGh0st
Minmatar
Ara Veritas
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Posted - 2009.07.31 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: demonfurbie
change
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range
to the meta 4 one same stats less cpu
Also good suggestion, thanks.
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CyberGh0st
Minmatar
Ara Veritas
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Posted - 2009.07.31 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kahega Amielden
Yeah. Your first recourse on any tight fit is to checked named mods.
also, 1% CPU implants are only a few mil.
CPU implants, thats another nice idea :p
Thanks as well
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Vim
Spook Division
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Posted - 2009.07.31 18:10:00 -
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Slot 6: kmb-25 1% extra cpu 2-3mill
Slot 10: kza1000 3% reduction in turret cpu usage 3-4mill
Thoose two implants... to describe my love for them I would have to post highly inappropriate links to images...
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Canaloney Soup
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Posted - 2009.07.31 18:37:00 -
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Tanks twice as much with same dps, yes smaller guns with 2 gyros worksout at 2 dps more
[Lows]
Damage Control II
3 Shield Power Relay II
2 Gyrostabilizer II
[Mids]
10MN Afterburner II
Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II
2 Large Shield Extender II
[Highs]
6 650mm Artillery Cannon II
2 Heavy Missile Launcher II
[Rigs]
Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
2 Core Defence Field Purger I
[Drones]
6 Hobgoblin II |
Ravenal
The Fated
E.Y
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Posted - 2009.07.31 19:04:00 -
[15]
Originally by: Canaloney Soup
Tanks twice as much with same dps, yes smaller guns with 2 gyros worksout at 2 dps more
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2 Core Defence Field Purger I
purgers are for pve and small gang pvp. Use extenders if you expect to be shot by many people.
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Canaloney Soup
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Posted - 2009.07.31 19:23:00 -
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Edited by: Canaloney Soup on 31/07/2009 19:24:18
Well if u look at OP fit looks like PvE to me "hint 10MN Afterburner II" and if u think my fit was PvP u fail at eve :P
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2009.07.31 20:53:00 -
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As far as I know no ship can fit a full t2 setup, or almost full as yours is. Dropping to a named module will free up lots of CPU.
For that setup I would drop the sensor booster down to a named, the targeting range difference will barely be noticeable and will give you the remaining CPU.
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The Djego
Minmatar
Hellequin Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.31 20:57:00 -
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Switch the cap recharger to a named gives you 4 CPU alone(-2% cap recharge).
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CyberGh0st
Minmatar
Ara Veritas
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Posted - 2009.07.31 22:34:00 -
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Edited by: CyberGh0st on 31/07/2009 22:39:11
Edited by: CyberGh0st on 31/07/2009 22:37:45
Originally by: Canaloney Soup
Tanks twice as much with same dps, yes smaller guns with 2 gyros worksout at 2 dps more
[Lows]
Damage Control II
3 Shield Power Relay II
2 Gyrostabilizer II
[Mids]
10MN Afterburner II
Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II
2 Large Shield Extender II
[Highs]
6 650mm Artillery Cannon II
2 Heavy Missile Launcher II
[Rigs]
Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
2 Core Defence Field Purger I
[Drones]
6 Hobgoblin II
Nice setup, and may be my next project, but I need better shield skills.
The tank seems alot better indeed.
However, I don't see how 650's can do more DPS than 720's, not even talking about 1 less gyro ... ?
Edit :
You must have missed the 3 gyro's I already fit right?
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CyberGh0st
Minmatar
Ara Veritas
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Posted - 2009.07.31 22:53:00 -
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Edited by: CyberGh0st on 31/07/2009 22:54:11
Well, thanks all for the input.
For now the cheapest way out, with no compromises, is to get the meta 4 sensor boosters, so thats what I'll be doing :p
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente
NME1
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Posted - 2009.07.31 23:00:00 -
[21]
Originally by: CyberGh0st
Could there be anything I missed in training that might allow me to fit the T2's ?
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Von Kapiche
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.07.31 23:37:00 -
[22]
Originally by: CyberGh0st
However, I don't see how 650's can do more DPS than 720's, not even talking about 1 less gyro ... ?
If you include reload times 650s aren't that far off just on bare numbers; if you include tracking too which isn't really quantifiable, imo they're at least as effective for dps ( not alpha obviously ). I believe his dps figure was including the extra HML though.
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CyberGh0st
Minmatar
Ara Veritas
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Posted - 2009.08.02 17:36:00 -
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Edited by: CyberGh0st on 02/08/2009 17:41:02
Edited by: CyberGh0st on 02/08/2009 17:38:55
Edited by: CyberGh0st on 02/08/2009 17:36:42
Originally by: Von Kapiche
Originally by: CyberGh0st
However, I don't see how 650's can do more DPS than 720's, not even talking about 1 less gyro ... ?
If you include reload times 650s aren't that far off just on bare numbers; if you include tracking too which isn't really quantifiable, imo they're at least as effective for dps ( not alpha obviously ). I believe his dps figure was including the extra HML though.
Hmm well according to EFT, the difference between 650's and 720's in my setup is 247 vs 259, I am sure that includes reloading times, maybe not that much, but enough for me to use 720's.
Then about tracking, at these ranges ( 60km ), I don't think tracking counts for much, I generally hit pretty good at optimal, mostly alpha strikes on frigates, and frigates should be the hardest ones to track right? Cruisers go down in a few shots too.
I upgraded from 650 to 720 a while ago for the added range and DPS.
With a better tank, the range will be less of an issue of course, and it will be safer when I warp inside a group.
I will go for a passive shield tank with 650's, but like I said, I have a load of shield skills to improve first, and before that I want to improve my drone skills :p. Only time will tell if this will allow me to complete level 4's faster :p
p.s. suggesting to remove the Drone link augmentor for a HML, will drop my long range DPS substantially ... The drones help alot with bringing down the battleships faster. In previous builds I did use 2 HML's.
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Beverly Sparks
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Posted - 2009.08.02 17:45:00 -
[24]
Originally by: CyberGh0st
Owkay, here is the setup :
[Hurricane]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
10MN Afterburner II
Cap Recharger II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor M
XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Drone Link Augmentor I
Ancillary Current Router I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Infiltrator I x1
Infiltrator I x1
Infiltrator I x1
Currently I have everything fitted, except the T2 active hardeners, I am using T1 named and training Hull Upgrades V to use T2.
The problem is, according to EFT, the T2 hardeners won't fit, I will be 2 CPU short ( 502/500 ).
Could there be anything I missed in training that might allow me to fit the T2's ?
I have trained :
Electronics V
Electronic Upgrades IV ( training this to 5 will have no effect on this setup right? )
Weapon Upgrades V
Thats all that I can think of for reducing cpu need or getting more cpu output.
Thanks in advance :p
Create partition on Vista hard drive and dual boot XP.
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CyberGh0st
Minmatar
Ara Veritas
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Posted - 2009.08.02 17:50:00 -
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Edited by: CyberGh0st on 02/08/2009 17:53:59
Originally by: Beverly Sparks
Create partition on Vista hard drive and dual boot XP.
But how will I be able to use 4GB of RAM then? Using XP 64bit? No thanks :p
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Celeritas 5k
Caldari
Destry's Lounge
Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2009.08.02 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
As far as I know no ship can fit a full t2 setup, or almost full as yours is. Dropping to a named module will free up lots of CPU.
For that setup I would drop the sensor booster down to a named, the targeting range difference will barely be noticeable and will give you the remaining CPU.
Then it would appear that you don't know very far. Every ship in the game can be (and is routinely) set up with a complete T2 fit, except for shuttles and freighters.
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fuxinos
Caldari
Guys 0f Sarcasm
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Posted - 2009.08.02 22:23:00 -
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Edited by: fuxinos on 02/08/2009 22:23:34
Originally by: Celeritas 5k
Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
As far as I know no ship can fit a full t2 setup, or almost full as yours is. Dropping to a named module will free up lots of CPU.
For that setup I would drop the sensor booster down to a named, the targeting range difference will barely be noticeable and will give you the remaining CPU.
Then it would appear that you don't know very far. Every ship in the game can be (and is routinely) set up with a complete T2 fit, except for shuttles and freighters.
To get everything T2 on most ships requires lolfits, only a handful of ships feature to be set up with all T2 without comedy.
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Nydia Carver
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Posted - 2009.08.02 22:26:00 -
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[Hurricane, New Setup 1]
Alpha Hull Mod Expanded Cargo
Alpha Hull Mod Expanded Cargo
Alpha Hull Mod Expanded Cargo
Alpha Hull Mod Expanded Cargo
Alpha Hull Mod Overdrive Injector
Local Hull Conversion Overdrive Injector I
Large Clarity Ward Booster I
Viscoelastic EM Ward Salubrity I
Viscoelastic EM Ward Salubrity I
Viscoelastic EM Ward Salubrity I
'Racket' Light Neutron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge S
'Racket' Light Neutron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge S
250mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Modal Laser I, Multifrequency M
Small Tractor Beam I
Responsive Auto-Targeting System I
Improved 'Guise' Cloaking Device II
Medium I-ax Regenerative Projector
Warp Core Optimizer I
Warp Core Optimizer I
Warp Core Optimizer I
Civilian Mining Drone x5
Civilian Mining Drone x1
This is what I have been using in 0.0 and it's been good. Many velspar rocks have gone down daily!
-Nydia
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Jaina Proudmoar
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Posted - 2009.08.03 00:56:00 -
[29]
Get a 1% CPU implant?
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