We're watching you... watching you carefully.

We're watching you... watching you carefully.

Mildly indifferent about our loot thus far, we were just about to leave the alliance when Pants asks if we would mind moving the alliance. First he has us pickup his final nest-egg from some random nul system where he had about 750k m3 of warchest, including more TCU's, SBUs, and another large faction tower, T3's etc. He also asked us to move stuff for the entire alliance, and send a mail about it. You may have read it.

We have now picked up over 60 contracts, most quite large. After taking a peek past the shrink wrap, it appears to be every ship, module, POS, BPO, drone, mineral, criminal dogtag, faction loot, and copy of Pax Amarria that the alliance owned, except a few caps you jumped out yourself and a few ships you died in on the way to the new home. There were many T3's and faction fit ships. It took us over 50 round trips in our group of JFs and carriers to move it all, it was a LOT of stuff.

Okay, so those of you who set up couriers that Pants asked you to, are wondering what has become of your stuff. You know that song "Destination Calabria" by Christal Waters where she sings "...destination unknown!"... Well, the good news is the desitnation is not unknown. The bad news is, the destination is Jita 4-4. A lot of alts were used to haul your stuff to Jita all weekend, which is why it has taken us so long to deal with the contracts.

We could have obviously kept this going forever, but we felt we had enough isk from Pants to cover our losses, and also everyone be given full visibilty as to why we did this, but also most importantly, understand if we did not do these things, somebody else would have. Johan was right, it was all preventable and Pants brought this down on you.

Hopefully you are watching him more than you watch your assets which got nicked.

Because everything said in alliance mail and subsequently posted to EveSkunk is legitimate.

Now that we all know who has riped off the entire alliance for no evednt reason and now yet again i am forced witha choice that i never thought i would have to make.
Let me reassure everyone i will not die nor will i give up on this allaince.
I will how ever repay for everyones losses that was ripped of from black camper. I was the most lost in all this and my loss is small in my eyes compared to what ever it was you guys lost even if it was small than mine
heres what i need a list or amount of isk that was lost

-A- will not be reseting us you have my word on that and if need be i will get a leader from them to say it them selves or send a mail to me

Heres how i see this can pan out due to what has happen i would not blame any corp for leave i would request all to stay as we have been through so much and we have over come the odds. Lets over come this.
Ignore black campers mail please everyone i know its not that easy i am implore to ignore it


The JF serivce will be dont through my self or with in corps for now it is canceld

Guys i am a man of my word and i will replace or repay losses and when i mean we over come this i mean BURN EVE i am just kidding what i really mean is contumie what we have plan adn set out to do.

To all the new corps I am sorry for you having to deal with this it is not how i run nor how a alliance should treat its new members. I am truly sorry and would request you stay and help us become amazing. We still can.


If you ahve any questions please convo me

Because everything said in alliance mail and subsequently posted to EveSkunk is legitimate.

Considering pulling from the API isn't forgery I'm assuming that means you just troll your entire alliance via mail to make yourselves look bad because .... Please explain.

I am a member of The Skeleton Crew.

Operation Dasvidaniya as we call it went, on for 9 days. Anyone else would have caught on instantly, but not SKELE. As you can see from this post even, they still have not rooted out all the involved parties. They still have not realized the extent of how poor the recruiting and security is. There are more besides me as well.

Despite an obvious frame job of a newer pilot recruited into the holding corp, alliance leadership refused to accept reality and instead told the alliance that the billing system was broken and bugged and that's why the sov was lost. Actualy, I took them as I had roles to do so. This was one of many aspects of Operation Dasvidaniya.

As for confirming the theft, yes.

Here is a list of what was taken, there is more to be inventoried, but this is the meat and potatoes:

4 Ihubs
10 TCUs
3 Large Shadow Towers
14 hulks
12 macks
5 Tengu
1 Obelisk
1 bil moon goo
20+ covops/SB
about 10 recons
5 large towers
4 medium towers
misc POS mods/guns
Scorpion/Ruppy/Myrm/Geddon BPOs
Misc Ammo BPOs
Cyna/Mach BPC
Revelation BPC kit
Chimera BPC kit
Captial Armor Plates BPO
Capital Drone Bay BPO
Nyx BPC
Assorted tags/faction mods
DED loot, B-type shiled boosters, X-type hardernes, etc
4 Faction Bs
15 BS
20+ BC
5 JF's full of compressed ABC/M
500k M3 in ammo/drones

Still selling it all, but so far over 50bil

Funny guy.

Getting back to the subject at hand, It doesn't matter what really happened. What matters now is how Claws is going to be perceived for apologizing in the forums. They're going to look whipped. They're going to look like an easy mark. I wouldn't be surprised if Skeleton Crew comes back for seconds down the road, assuming someone else does not beat them to it.

If both parties felt Claws had to apologize, fine, but the smart thing was to leave it in-game. Optics have a tendancy of doing more damage than the truth. Any politician who puts his foot in his mouth over a verbal gaffe understands this very well.

Ehnea.

Just so everyone knows Don Campers Main is BlackCamper
To set the record stright yes we had Blackcampers corp steal not just from my self which tbh was fine but taken from members who was just trying to enjoy the game. So i must say that Blackcamper you sir are a master at being a moron the BPO's was all yours as was the BPC kit you purchased from me you sir are retarted. I will admit we did loose alot from this scam but we are still here and we are still alive so blackcamper aka Don Camper you sir have failed and are still a liar all assets lost equaled 16.53 bil lost not 50 bill so you are sir are not even close to correct please learn game dynamics a bit more and try and rip off some one whos lets bigger next time and not just the members who actully like you and tbh you scammed your own corp with lying and saying you was hacked when you wasent and you scammed you own friends inside this alliance who looked up to you.

I will admit we did loose alot from this scam but we are still here and we are still alive so blackcamper aka Don Camper you sir have failed and are still a liar all assets lost equaled 16.53 bil lost not 50 bill so you are sir are not even close to correct please learn game dynamics a bit more and try and rip off some one whos lets bigger next time and not just the members who actully like you and tbh you scammed your own corp with lying and saying you was hacked when you wasent and you scammed you own friends inside this alliance who looked up to you.

This "Circus" of a thread has warmed up rather nicely. Nothing more entertaining than observing grown men squabble and trade cheap blows on the internet while going through the motions over the heist of a few virtual nik naks.

Leaning back and pretending to be smug is so very badass of you.

Just so everyone knows Don Campers Main is BlackCamper
To set the record stright yes we had Blackcampers corp steal not just from my self which tbh was fine but taken from members who was just trying to enjoy the game. So i must say that Blackcamper you sir are a master at being a moron the BPO's was all yours as was the BPC kit you purchased from me you sir are retarted. I will admit we did loose alot from this scam but we are still here and we are still alive so blackcamper aka Don Camper you sir have failed and are still a liar all assets lost equaled 16.53 bil lost not 50 bill so you are sir are not even close to correct please learn game dynamics a bit more and try and rip off some one whos lets bigger next time and not just the members who actully like you and tbh you scammed your own corp with lying and saying you was hacked when you wasent and you scammed you own friends inside this alliance who looked up to you.

So all in all lets recap your a liar to not just my self but your own corp members, you betray people who call you a friend good job on that great way to show character, and lastly you a immature child its a game play it, if you had a problem with one person who was myself could have just scammed me not them members. BTW just so you know i have never been broke nor will I good job get your story stright and all has been remburst.