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Tomahawk Bliss Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.08.03 02:05:00 - [31] Originally by: Tar Kovsky Originally by: Ikar Kaltin You allowed pirates to operate out of 9UY, to raid their space and destroy their ships. Our policy was quite clear; anyone basing out of Unity Station had to observe our rules (NRDS) inside U'K sovereign space. We did not attempt to dictate their behavior outside our space. Isn't that basically the same policy that CVA has, with the caveat that CVA claims all of Providence and low-security Derelik as "their space"? splitting that hair mighty thin aren't we now? I personally thought this was a hilarious moment in history. Sylph did what any group would do to protect its own members, you run "space" you have to keep house. that whole rise up and over throw the corrupt masters bit...always makes me chuckle
Karn Mithralia Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.08.03 04:46:00 - [32] Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss that whole rise up and over throw the corrupt masters bit...always makes me chuckle Why exactly are you a member of SF, for the laughs? By all means continue to defend our enemies though, you always were a buffoon.
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.08.03 07:13:00 - [33] Originally by: Ikar Kaltin What caused Sylph to side with the Holy amarrian cause was not their betrayal of you, but instead your betrayal of them. You allowed pirates to operate out of 9UY, to raid their space and destroy their ships. My corporation was one of those 'pirate' groups at the time. And you, sir, are wrong and hypocritcal. U'K treated my corporation in exactly the same way as Sylph - we were ordered to observe NRDS within U'K sovereign space, which we did. Sylph alliance, however, were unable to control their pilots effectively, and they were witnessed by U'K opening fire on my corporation in NRDS space. We retaliated. It was Sylph alliance who broke the deal, not us. And the Ushra'Khan treated both parties fairly, and with the same rules. We had to to match the U'K standings list in U'K space and observe NRDS - this is exactly the same system CVA use in their own space. ---------- AKA 'Bitter Dog' Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05
zoolkhan Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.08.03 08:32:00 - [34] We are the Ushra'Khan, and we come for our people! _ Mirkur Draug'tyr - the window to your target recruiting -forum
Insane Nutmunch	Posted - 2009.08.03 08:36:00 - [35] 10 out of 10 for style, but minus several million for accuracy. Just a couple of questions based around your statement. 1, Sylph is currently made up of both leadership and members who were not present during the CVA v UK war. Is this a case of just sour grapes now ? 2, Was this outburst of nationalistic pride prompted by any particular event ? Have Sylph made peace overtures and this is your response ? 3, Your members may bad mouth Sylph as traitors and cowards, yet they still seem to hold Promethia station AND have added more stations. Who are the "Winners"? Your killboard statistics or their space holding ability? 4, What now for U'K ? More "supply chain" attacks? or will you be executing something more than a campaign of minor irritation? Can we expect to see the glorious sight of U'K capital size vessels engaging in Sylph space? On a seperate note to Butter Dog, I don't think any entity would remain neutral to their neighbours when they allow attackers to sortie from their stations. Sylph tried diplomatic channels but were ignored. U'K left them no choice but to pick a side. Good job they picked the winners really
Poreuomai Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.08.03 09:17:00 - [36] Edited by: Poreuomai on 03/08/2009 09:23:47 Mr. Nutmunch, Your words might carry more weight if you had made more than 2 transmission in the last few years. For whom do you speak? Even so, please expand on the "inaccuracy" you accuse us of. Though I must ask, have you never even heard of the cyno jammers which these slavers deploy? *Let My People Go*
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.08.03 09:32:00 - [37] Originally by: Insane Nutmunch On a seperate note to Butter Dog, I don't think any entity would remain neutral to their neighbours when they allow attackers to sortie from their stations. Sylph tried diplomatic channels but were ignored. U'K left them no choice but to pick a side. Good job they picked the winners really It was you who opened fire on us, in U'K NRDS space. Not the other way around. You certainly have paid a price for that betrayal. As for picking the winning side, step back and look at Sylph alliance. Look at the state of it. Since U'K started a focused campaign against you, you have lost over half your members. 600 pilots voted with their feet and left for greener pastures. And all the time, U'K grow stronger. Daily, we control your space, and incapacitate stations services at will. We reinforce your POS, and steal unanchoring towers. We deny you your mining grounds. We remove safe passage in Empire. You impotently stand by, because your worthless husk of an alliance cannot counter us. You are weak, desperate, and collapsing internally. Your last active FC resigned only days ago due to your staggering incompetence. It is by the grace of others that you hold space at all. U'K are the oldest alliance in New Eden. We will never die, we shall never tire, we will never stop humiliating you. We remember your betrayal and we know your weaknesses. Only in death will your alliance ever know peace. ---------- AKA 'Bitter Dog' Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.08.03 09:35:00 - [38] I'm immensely heartened by both the success and the persistence of the Ushra'khan campaigns in Providence against the hired holders plugging space for the CVA slavemasters. While brave warriors refuse to give up this fight hope remains for the benighted region and one day Providence may be free again. Be assured friends and allies of the Ushra'khan. The day will come when the Star Fraction will fly with you again against these dogs and cowards all and there we'll hear a great lamentation of their women. 3rd Forces in FW - discuss!
Octavinus Augustus Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.03 10:50:00 - [39] Dear pilots of the Ushra'Khan: We also come for your people.... Q: How do you make a disobedient Minmatar slave scream? A: Skin it and roll it in salt.
Tarac Nor Caldari Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.08.03 11:04:00 - [40] Edited by: Tarac Nor on 03/08/2009 11:08:28 Edited by: Tarac Nor on 03/08/2009 11:05:44 Dearest CVA pilots and supporters: I come for your ship, your pod, and your clones.
Poreuomai Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.08.03 11:38:00 - [41] Originally by: Octavinus Augustus We also come for your people.... Hmm ... where exactly? *Let My People Go*
Karn Mithralia Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.08.03 11:54:00 - [42] Karn grins We'll look forward to that day Jade, respect to the free captains. Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Dear pilots of the Ushra'Khan: We also come for your people.... In the words of someone somewhere once ... "Ahhh, finally, a man worth killing"
Dan Deoxys Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.08.03 12:10:00 - [43] "4, What now for U'K ? More "supply chain" attacks? or will you be executing something more than a campaign of minor irritation? Can we expect to see the glorious sight of U'K capital size vessels engaging in Sylph space? " In answer to your question i think the campagian of minor irritation is working very nicely.Nothing quiet like a hornet in your spiced wine to spoil your morning. As you well know the warriors of Urisha'Khan are worth many times the quality of Sylph pilots but we are well aware of the numbers that will come running to help them defend what they themselves cannot defend. Even the bravest of warriors,after leaving a trail of destruction the likes of which legend's are made, will fall to a lucky shot from a rabble of farmers with nothing more than pitchforks. There are larger interested parties that would not allow the positioning of openly hostile forces so close to their borders. Oh but for the chance to go head to head without other parties intervening, two alliances closely matched in members, both with the same goals - oh wait that's not quite right is it ? I have a damned good idea where the clever money would be if this were a two horse race.
Zarro Starkiler Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.08.03 12:21:00 - [44] Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Dear pilots of the Ushra'Khan: We also come for your people.... I'm with you on this one. -Commander Starkiler
Insane Nutmunch	Posted - 2009.08.03 12:33:00 - [45] Originally by: Dan Deoxys "I have a damned good idea where the clever money would be if this were a two horse race. " But it isn't, so what are you going to do about it? All your bluster about U'K being soley responsible for Sylph's dropping numbers is just that - Bluster. They will just recruit more "newbs" to null sec space or pick up corps from the never ending reorganisation which occurs in New Eden. So, I'll ask the question in it's simple form. Are you as U'K going to step up, regain space and actually "DO" something or are you going to "Spin" away as usual and just be a minor irritation to the holders of Providence and Catch ? It's time to Flush or get off the pot, Your rethoric has become boring and predictable. 3 Posts now - Thats a 50% increase in a few hours - Am I more credible ?
Sapphrine Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.08.03 13:04:00 - [46] yes nutmunch, if you ask a few more questions I'll give you a detailed outline of our plan based on suprise and out maneuvering a larger enemy force. Then we'll deploy static assets within your jump bridgeable space, and then we'll just keep doing it again and again and again.... U'K doesn't take full credit for Sylph's current predicament. The lack of support from their allies, the untimely demise of their command staff due to internal strife, the distinct lack of coordination that has been shown at maintaining key infrastructure these past months... these are all factors that have led to nearly half of Sylph alliance membership leaving in the past months. Having recieved several communiques from departing Sylph members however, I feel quite confident that we have helped them to realise we take betrayal somewhat personally. You ask us straight if we're going to deploy and take Sylph space. I ask you why the providence bloc haven't defended better against our attacks? Sylph has suffered far more in these attacks than other amarrian holder groups and still they are left to fend alone. Whilst i'm sure you'd like a full frontal war against a force 1/10th the size of the provi bloc, we're quite happy with our successful guerilla warfare which quite clearly works.
Insane Nutmunch	Posted - 2009.08.03 13:43:00 - [47] Originally by: Sapphrine Then we'll deploy static assets within your jump bridgeable space. See that's your mistake there, I'm not asking you to lay off Sylph, quite the opposite infact! I would like to see U'K regain it's past status and glory rather than just philabustering. On the one hand you suggest that the other members of the Provi Block Blob have left Sylph out to dry, but then profess that you are unable to attack Sylph because you are outnumbered. So again I ask, which is it? Are you going to flounder in heartfelt, but useless words, or do you have a spine to back these words up with deeds of valour and glory? You come for our people, but you leave them hanging in slavery with your inaction. Is it time for a more worthy organisation to now take the mantle of "Freedom" fighters to allow U'K to concentrate on their main occupation as GalNet Gossips.
Adeptus mecanicus Caldari The Flaming Sideburn's	Posted - 2009.08.03 14:11:00 - [48] Edited by: Adeptus mecanicus on 03/08/2009 14:11:48 Originally by: Tar Kovsky Originally by: Ikar Kaltin You allowed pirates to operate out of 9UY, to raid their space and destroy their ships. Our policy was quite clear; anyone basing out of Unity Station had to observe our rules (NRDS) inside U'K sovereign space. We did not attempt to dictate their behavior outside our space. Isn't that basically the same policy that CVA has, with the caveat that CVA claims all of Providence and low-security Derelik as "their space"? hardin has been claiming derelik fore years now tho cant see any changes or them patroling the space lanes, when talking about claims i just remeberd a fella that claimed he had trained a slaver dog to pick food from his mouth....didnt go to well the dog was feed tho Gatecamp rock
Sapphrine Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.08.03 14:13:00 - [49] Edited by: Sapphrine on 03/08/2009 14:15:29 nutmunch, you seem to have a way with selective wording. The answer to your question is that it is both, as I stated. The effort required for CVA and co to form up a giant grouping and hit a static asset at the time of their choosing is relatively little. The effort required to keep sylph space viable and protected is significantly more and quite rightly is the responsibility first and foremost of Sylph. edit: you seem stuck with this belief that we have to take their space to deny them the use of it... how much does the infrastructure to hold that space cost do you reckon? And where does the income come to keep it going? I'd vouch that running the same infrastructure with half as many people is quite a strain right now :)
Evanda Char Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2009.08.03 14:14:00 - [50] Intel I'm receiving says the Kari interdiction has worked nicely. Well done U'K! -Eva- Electus Matari - taking it one bad guy at a time
Dinaahk Elam	Posted - 2009.08.03 14:25:00 - [51] Rumor has it that X-Bob / Kenny Corporations are entering factional warefare, maybe they can get some thrashers and rifters sent down to help UK actually get some of thier people. This alleged Sylph backstabbing of UK reminds me of long rimmed roe manuer, can you smell it? I think everyone can. Seems facts speak for themselves, UK were not able to control Pirates they hired to protect thier assets during the siege of unity, some went awry in Sylph space, self admittedly Bitter speaks of NRDS in UK space only, so Sylph space was fair game at the time. Sylph retaliated, crossed boarders chasing hostiles from thier space like any compotent space holding Alliance would, what else could they do? nothing? We all think and know not. Having no further choice, Sylph sided with those who actually showed spine and true friendship aka the Proviblock, UK got bitter over thier hired henchmen who were out of control and Sylph who had to defend thier citizens and space from the Pirating hoards employed by UK to prolong the enevidable. It is quite simple, UK shot themsleves in the foot, blame Sylph, and are bitter of thier complete failure as a space holding entity with that diplomatic blunderfluk. Maybe you can go back to Immensia and "hold" some more stations for friends before your -A- Overlords tell you you cant have them and to leave them alone or else. So you shot up some haulers, ratters, and were generally a pain in Sylphs backside, good work, so how many of your people did you recover?
Cribb Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.08.03 14:37:00 - [52] Originally by: Dinaahk Elam Rumor has it that X-Bob / Kenny Corporations are entering factional warefare This isnot a rumour, if you cared to check IGS. You would have seen this is a fact. We are the Ushra'Khan, and we come for our people. ------- When in doubt, play loud
Insane Nutmunch	Posted - 2009.08.03 14:51:00 - [53] Originally by: Sapphrine how much does the infrastructure to hold that space cost do you reckon? And where does the income come to keep it going? I'd vouch that running the same infrastructure with half as many people is quite a strain right now :) At last we agree, Although I am a cup half full kind of person. With certain corporations leaving Sylph, there will be a mad rush to take up the moon gold they will be giving up. The revenue from these moons are worth billions per week. With the number of members leaving, and the added infrastructure logistical requirements, I am sure you will see Deathstars being retasked to mining. You now have a window of opportunity, between sovereignty reorganisation, but before new corporations join to reinforce their stranglehold over our brothers. So what will it be, Rhetoric or Results? Making the slavers pay, or making love to your Kill/Death ratios ? The choice is yours? Lay back on the laurels of what you were 2 years ago, Or actually go and do something both worthy AND resent.
Xennith Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.08.03 15:31:00 - [54] "We come for our people", not "we come for some stations".
Dan Deoxys Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.08.03 16:08:00 - [55] "So what will it be, Rhetoric or Results? Making the slavers pay, or making love to your Kill/Death ratios ? " Correct me if i'm wrong but i thought we were making the slavers pay. Every time a ratting ship or hauler gets destroyed we move a step closer, a little at a time. Mighty oaks come from small acorns. If given the choice of weapon in a duel against a mortal foe would you choose a claymore or rapier ? With the claymore you could cleave him in half with one stroke. Over and done with or would you choose the rapier knowing that you can finish him at any time but want to look into his eyes each time the rapier strikes, until reality finally sinks in to your opponent that all hope is gone ? Former slaves can sometimes get carried away with blood lust, a small price to pay.
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.08.03 16:10:00 - [56] Originally by: Insane Nutmunch On the one hand you suggest that the other members of the Provi Block Blob have left Sylph out to dry, but then profess that you are unable to attack Sylph because you are outnumbered. We are attacking Sylph daily. We maintain a constant presence in their systems. We incap their station services at our whim. We reinforce POS. We steal assets. We destroy their defence fleets. We camp their jump bridges. We remove the safety net of CONCORD in Empire. We remove their ability to make ISK from their already worthless space. And it is indeed worthless space. It would cost more in POS fuel than could be generated from it. U'K do not want Sylphs space. We've turned down offers of far better space in the recent past, why in the name New Eden would we wish for that desolate strip of Catch with its barren moons, desolate belts, and low ranking sansha pirates? What we want, is simply revenge. We already know our strategy to work. The facts, and the Sylph deserters, speak for themselves. It is impossible to counter, intelligent, and effective. And it shall continue. I'm sure ProvidenceBloc would love the chance to raise a 500 man fleet if we were to deploy large control towers in IS-R, or something equally ludicrous. It won't happen. It does not need to happen. Watch and learn my dear 'observer', perhaps you will learn the true art of effective guerilla combat. ---------- AKA 'Bitter Dog' Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05
Merdaneth Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2009.08.03 16:22:00 - [57] Ushra Khan is happy to harbor murderers, psychopaths and pirates, as long as they don't murder people in UK's own back yard? I would have to be morally bankrupt myself before I let murderers operating out of my house and turn a blind eye, let alone consider them friends or allies. Additionally, you indiscriminately kill pilots in Providence, even pilots who might be merely passing through, on account that the mere presence in Providence indicates support for CVA? Knowing that Providence is open space? Again, I would have to be morally bankrupt to kill people I don't even know solely on the account that I saw them walking in front of the house of someone I hate. As for traitors, from your transmission it would seem you dislike Sylph more than CVA, is this true? ____ The Illusion of Freedom \| The Truth about Slavery
Eno Lacigol Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2009.08.03 16:27:00 - [58] If your not happy with the life of a slave, we can gladly give you the death of one.
zoolkhan Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.08.03 16:36:00 - [59] Originally by: Insane Nutmunch blabla blublubb... dont feed the troll
Insane Nutmunch	Posted - 2009.08.03 16:54:00 - [60] Originally by: Butter Dog What we want, is simply revenge. Do you speak for the whole of U'K in this statement that you are only doing this for revenge and not for the heroic and noble cause of freeing our enslaved breathern. I disagree, you have underestimated the value of that part of catch. As an avid observer of New Eden, I have yet to observe you being on a winning side, with the exception of removing UCE. Perhaps this shall be fun to watch as you again fail to meet your objectives and retreat to lick your wounds. But credit where credits due, You always take a licking and come back kicking.

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