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Roxanna Kell SandStorm.	Posted - 2009.08.05 22:49:00 - [1] No matter how i look at this ship, it bores me. why so many lights? a 1000 people live in there or something? I tried turning off my user interface, still looks awrfull. I mean i used to love it for being different from the other caldari ships, now its just a minmatar wannabe ship. for 250 mills a pop, least we should get is kiera knightly. I know you all agree, so let US remind CCP art department to stop changing good looking ships into linsey lohans. yes iam angry, but i got a cigar. Quote: Knowledge is having a forward scout in a roaming op, wisdom is to scout the rear as well.
Snasty Caldari The Hippies House of Mercury	Posted - 2009.08.05 23:30:00 - [2] Yup, you sort of have a point... http://eve-online.itemdrop.net/eve_db/items/ship/command_ship/nighthawk/ --------------------------------------- -=Snasty, short for Shagnasty ever since the GM's in SWG made me change it...!=-
Roxanna Kell SandStorm.	Posted - 2009.08.06 00:27:00 - [3] sort of in shock no one else is whining with me over this, jees. maybe everyone else have a different taste, and love grey plains with red strips and xmas lights. Quote: Knowledge is having a forward scout in a roaming op, wisdom is to scout the rear as well.
Xue XinMao West Wind Waylanders	Posted - 2009.08.06 01:06:00 - [4] I just think all of CCP fly amarr or gallente. i sense descrimination. but yeah, it was stupid changing the original colour to crappy gray. wish is same crappy gray on other t1 ships. there is nothing unique other than the crappy red stripes and led lights. lol was it designed by a chick who loves sparkles?
Bestofworst Worstofbest Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.08.06 01:07:00 - [5] It's "Citynightlifehawk" ________________________________________________ Am I an alt, main, or both? You decide!
Soporo Caldari	Posted - 2009.08.06 03:41:00 - [6] Agreed. But don't whine too much or they'll turn it pink like they did to someone elses favorite ship... Dev griefing at it's finest.
Wrayeth Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams	Posted - 2009.08.06 04:02:00 - [7] TBH, much as I want a jet-black nighthawk again, I'd rather have them fix the slot layout and grid so that it outperforms the drake. Nighthawk needs: +1 mid -1 low +15% grid (at least - to make up for the RCU you aren't fitting in that low; I'd prefer a 30% grid boost, but that might be greedy) If this happens, I'd actually fly my nighthawks more, since I'd be able to tackle without ruining my surivability. -Wrayeth n00b Extraordinaire "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
R Ramjet Caldari Virgin Galactica	Posted - 2009.08.06 04:17:00 - [8] +1 to bring back the Black NH 01000010010100110100011100100000010001100110000101101110 A Cylon had my baby 0100001101100001011100100110010101100010011001010110000101110010
James Vayne	Posted - 2009.08.06 04:42:00 - [9] Originally by: Roxanna Kell No matter how i look at this ship, it bores me. why so many lights? a 1000 people live in there or something? I tried turning off my user interface, still looks awrfull. I mean i used to love it for being different from the other caldari ships, now its just a minmatar wannabe ship. for 250 mills a pop, least we should get is kiera knightly. I know you all agree, so let US remind CCP art department to stop changing good looking ships into linsey lohans. yes iam angry, but i got a cigar. actually the lights on a ship has always bothered me because they seem to put the ships out of scale. The lights can easily be mistaken for windows which makes smaller ships look as though they support more crews than larger ships. Plus these lights are often put in ridiculous places where you wouldn't expect to find lights or windows. I do believe the lights issue on all ships needs to be looked at as far as textures go.
something somethingdark	Posted - 2009.08.06 06:23:00 - [10] also i want the old bloodraiders back well the prophecy (wich we cant get) and the bhaalgorn also i support the dimming of ships lights initiative perhaps i could save up to 1 pg by turning off the lights i dont need wich also lowers my signature radius because im less visible also having less windows on engines may further the structural integrity and permit the installation of a more sturdy armor yes ?
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.08.06 07:30:00 - [11] Originally by: something somethingdark wich also lowers my signature radius because im less visible You cannot be serious... _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
white kight Galaxy Punks Aeternus.	Posted - 2009.08.06 08:33:00 - [12] The jet black nighthawk looked amazing. It so needs to be changed back to that again instead of the crappy grey. And while they are at it change the manticore so we don't have an ORANGE stealth bomber Originally by: CCP Greyscale :facepalm:
CHAOS100 0utbreak KrautbreaK	Posted - 2009.08.06 09:45:00 - [13] Nighthawk? First change all the gallente ships that all had unique cool colours that made them worth flying. For example the navy mega had a cool jet black, very distinctive from the kronos or regular mega. Kronos was brown/green, same with deimos. Now it seems they are all desaturated, and added 50% more grey. I never used premium graphics until they forced it, because of this. Arazu was a cool green, now it is more like greyish brown... wtf? Ishtar looks crappier too, the formerly best looking ship IMO. However it they made all the Amarr ships amazing looking, they get slick black ships (like the curse) and shiny golden ships like the zealot, which looks far better now. Moar distinctive colour schemes needed. --------------
Roxanna Kell SandStorm.	Posted - 2009.08.06 12:38:00 - [14] I cant help but feel screwed over by their artists. i feel as if they just submit whatever they thing is beautiful, wish isn't. Very selfish pretantious egos they employ. As for the lights, you re right, turning them off will probably save up soem PG for combat. Quote: Knowledge is having a forward scout in a roaming op, wisdom is to scout the rear as well.
James Vayne	Posted - 2009.08.06 13:27:00 - [15] Edited by: James Vayne on 06/08/2009 13:27:59 Originally by: Roxanna Kell I cant help but feel screwed over by their artists. i feel as if they just submit whatever they thing is beautiful, wish isn't. Very selfish pretantious egos they employ. As for the lights, you re right, turning them off will probably save up soem PG for combat. Well as artists they can only submit what they think looks good, cant they? They're paid and qualified to consider what looks good and what doesn't. They cant stop to put everything up a vote each time they do something to make sure everyone will be happy because whatever one does in anything there is always, always a critic. So they just have to use their best judgement to come up with what they think looks cool.
arbiter reformed Minmatar Annihilate. Avarice.	Posted - 2009.08.06 13:55:00 - [16] yeh and all the other now lame blue caldari ships, flycatcher n stuffs Signature graphics that may only contain your character name, corporation logo, corporation or personal slogan or other text that is directly related to your in-game persona, or content directly related to Eve Online. All content must be in good taste.Applebabe
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2009.08.06 14:00:00 - [17] Originally by: Roxanna Kell I cant help but feel screwed over by their artists. i feel as if they just submit whatever they thing is beautiful, wish isn't. Very selfish pretantious egos they employ. As for the lights, you re right, turning them off will probably save up soem PG for combat. lol at lights and PG :P But your post is fail otherwise. Of course you submit what you think looks good, thats what they are paied for after all. Imo the deign of the NH is nice (not the game mechanic design, that sucks big time). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
QwaarJet Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.08.06 14:17:00 - [18] I agree with Roxanna about the Nighthawk. I also would love to see the CNR return to it's jet black glory, as it looked awesome before, now it looks like a dirty Raven.
Ira Astrum Serenity Engineering and Transport Company Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.08.06 14:19:00 - [19] Uhhh, the artists aren't submitting "what they think looks good", they have to go through many many drafts to get something approved and in line with the general continuity of the game. for instance - Kaalakiota (nighthawk) ships are dark grey/black with red stripes Ishukone (vulture) ships are grey camo. Obviously there are some variations on this, but it's purely in keeping with upholding a consistent art style, not as you put it just a single guys idea of what looks good.
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2009.08.06 14:22:00 - [20] Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 06/08/2009 14:22:50 Originally by: Ira Astrum Uhhh, the artists aren't submitting "what they think looks good", they have to go through many many drafts to get something approved and in line with the general continuity of the game. looks at his work as a graphic artist looks at above reply looks at work again looks at camera Yeah, let's say that My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
James Vayne	Posted - 2009.08.06 14:23:00 - [21] Originally by: Sidus Isaacs Imo the deign of the NH is nice (not the game mechanic design, that sucks big time). To my eye the design of each race's ships makes perfect sense to me. one one hand you have the caldari: A nation where the elitist rules and the rest are downtrodden, overworked, underpaid and not thanked for it (until the Heth Revolution). For this reason, visually, Caldari ships are never going to be pleasing to the eye because they're the result of apathetic designers and uncaring constructors. The Shipyards and the corporations probably don't care what a ship looks like, as long as it helps toward the task of raking in money. Resources are also tightly controlled. Wasting resources is a waste of money, after all. Why put a 'go faster' stripe on that ship when it's going to cost extra money to pay someone to paint it on and pay for the paint to do it? Or a go faster fin? Etc. Caldari ships are the bare minimum that a ship needs to be to do its job. Creative thinking is discouraged by the elitists. One the other hand you have the Gallente. A booming federation where the people are, generally, happy and whose resources are not so tightly controlled. People prosper in the Gallente Federation and so they're happier. Design and creative thinking are encouraged and so, generally, their ships reflect this. Especially the Megathron and the Gallente Titan. Then you have the Amarr. Whose shipbuilding efforts are probably tokens to their service to God from their point of view. For this reason the designers will always come up with exorbitant decoration and form for their ships because their work is viewed as a testament to their service to God. Resources are not an object when you own a large empire and you have many slaves (or a little less than many these days) to acquire them for you. Then you have the Minmitar. While they're fierce in their efforts to maintain a fleet, resources are also harder to acquire because they, possibly, lack the technology acquire said resources in the same way that the other three races do. To t his end their ships always look a little thrown together, but also reflect their determination to be different. A ship is built to do the best job it possibly can, but also using as little resources as possible.
Tippia Raddick Explorations	Posted - 2009.08.06 14:24:00 - [22] Edited by: Tippia on 06/08/2009 14:26:47 Originally by: Ira Astrum Uhhh, the artists aren't submitting "what they think looks good", they have to go through many many drafts to get something approved and in line with the general continuity of the game. for instance - Kaalakiota (nighthawk) ships are dark grey/black with red stripes Ishukone (vulture) ships are grey camo. Obviously there are some variations on this, but it's purely in keeping with upholding a consistent art style, not as you put it just a single guys idea of what looks good. Not that it would hurt the other Kaalakiota ships (Onyx, Crow, Rook, Widow, Flycatcher, Crane) to also be skewed more towards black. Originally by: Sheriff Jones Yeah, let's say that You're thinking about the process, he's thinking about the style. The reoccuring themes are quite obvious in the various T2 manufacturers, and it's nice to see that they actually apply some consistency in how the ships look. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Ira Astrum Serenity Engineering and Transport Company Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.08.06 14:27:00 - [23] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 06/08/2009 14:22:50 Originally by: Ira Astrum Uhhh, the artists aren't submitting "what they think looks good", they have to go through many many drafts to get something approved and in line with the general continuity of the game. looks at his work as a graphic artist looks at above reply looks at work again looks at camera Yeah, let's say that You're a graphic artist ^-^? I'm a computer game artist xD
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2009.08.06 14:33:00 - [24] Originally by: Tippia You're thinking about the process, he's thinking about the style. The reoccuring themes are quite obvious in the various T2 manufacturers, and it's nice to see that they actually apply some consistency in how the ships look. Yeah, but it's not like they have to go through dozens of drafts etc. Usually the process is; Hey look what i can model! Cool! Make it bigger and grayer! Ok! HEre's the new one! Yei!! Beer? There are some producer steps there, but noone notices them anyway. Originally by: Ira Astrum You're a graphic artist ^-^? I'm a computer game artist xD Used to work as a graphic artist/modeller for games. Now a days more design/concept/level/lead/stuff My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Tippia Raddick Explorations	Posted - 2009.08.06 14:36:00 - [25] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Yei!! Beer? Well, I suppose I have to grant you that one — this is CCP, after all. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
5pinDizzy Amarr Caldari State 1st Protectorate	Posted - 2009.08.06 14:50:00 - [26] Originally by: Ira Astrum Uhhh, the artists aren't submitting "what they think looks good", they have to go through many many drafts to get something approved and in line with the general continuity of the game. for instance - Kaalakiota (nighthawk) ships are dark grey/black with red stripes Ishukone (vulture) ships are grey camo. Obviously there are some variations on this, but it's purely in keeping with upholding a consistent art style, not as you put it just a single guys idea of what looks good. That's interesting considering they don't follow their own rules. Before the trinity graphics the ship colours made more sense overall for all races, then post trinity as an example; they randomly decided to start making half the Amarr navy ships grey and white. While Viziam who were nearly all grey and white ships to start with randomly get the zealot changed to what looks like default textures with a sewer green overlay along with the newly introduced redeemer, colours that would've more suited the navy. On visual inspection they are hardly distinguishable different from their standard tech 1 counterparts anyway. CCP QA sucks in otherwords or they're just looking specifically at performance related stuff which is the most likely reason.
Ira Astrum Serenity Engineering and Transport Company Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.08.06 14:53:00 - [27] I've never known a community to complain so much. Jeeez!
Mixu Paatelainen Caldari 1st Steps Academy Tread Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.06 14:54:00 - [28] Really wish they'd get rid of camouflage on ships in the first place. Not many jungles in space. Forests a bit thin on the ground too. +1 support anyway, NH, flycatcher etc look worse now I agree.
Nyveg Hyperborea Re	Posted - 2009.08.06 15:01:00 - [29] Not that I know how the NH looks with new gfx nor think we get what we want but: If the changes are similar to the Machariel (which looks awful now due to lack of black) I'm all with You.
James Vayne	Posted - 2009.08.06 15:12:00 - [30] My solution to the problem would be to have, say, 5 colours per ship to choose from set up as interchangeable pre-built textures. While some may think this would place unecessary burden on the servers, I assure you it probably wouldn't if your computer could cache these textures also. After all, games like Homeworld/Homeworld2 managed it quite nicely (though they used RGB overlays). One such texture to pick from could be black.

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