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liquidsteal
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Posted - 2009.08.06 00:23:00 -
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You have all had it happen ,at least the people who work there own missions to make a living in EVE. ide like to have a show of err em hands to who likes and dont like this aspect of the game,lets see if the majority of players dont like it we can get ccp to stop it from happening. ps dont worry about me ,im on to a diff game if it isnt stopped .
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JitaBum
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.08.06 00:26:00 -
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move to quieter system you nincompoop
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Kahega Amielden
Minmatar
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.08.06 00:27:00 -
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 Originally by: liquidsteal
You have all had it happen ,at least the people who work there own missions to make a living in EVE. ide like to have a show of err em hands to who likes and dont like this aspect of the game,lets see if the majority of players dont like it we can get ccp to stop it from happening. ps dont worry about me ,im on to a diff game if it isnt stopped .
Per CCP Mitnal: Originally by: CCP Mitnal
"Our policy on this is extremely clear... Salvaging is a mini-profession within EVE and does not constitute stealing."
Per GM Faolchu : Originally by: GM Faolchu
Salvaging other peoples wrecks.... This is an intended game mechanic and is in no way an exploit. People salvaging your missions npcs or the player you just blew up are doing nothing wrong. The players are salvaging what is effectively floating rubbish in space and Concord places no value on this wreckage.
Eve is a harsh place you won't always have everything go your way, its a do or die world and people do what they can to get along. If salvaging some wreckage gets them a few more ISK someone will do it, it doesn't matter who just blew it up.
Per Senior GM Ytterbium : Originally by: GM Ytterbium
Players are still completely free to salvage other pilot wrecks at will ... and doing so is not considered as an exploit.
Per CCP Prism X : Originally by: CCP Prism X
Why is stealing salvage OK? It's not. It shouldn't even be possible to move an item from your cargo-hold / hanger to another persons cargo-hold / hanger without opening a trade window. Before the salvage enters those containers it is not considered your stuff by the server code. Hence it's not stealing.
(These quotes are kept handy for your convenience at Ironfleet.com.)
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McRoll
Minmatar
Heatseekers
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Posted - 2009.08.06 00:28:00 -
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Your efforts will be futile, i am sorry. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Oh and just so you know- i am not a ninja salvager and i find it funny if one enters my missions, it's a part of EvE i like, believe it or not.
And before i forget- Can i haz? you know what.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
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Posted - 2009.08.06 00:38:00 -
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No. That's stupid. Why on earth would you want that?
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Xikuan
Minmatar
New Furia
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Posted - 2009.08.06 00:40:00 -
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ANOTHER THREAD ABOUT THIS!!!?????!!!!!
To the OP, look thought the pages on the forum, seriously, this has already been done to death! The devs and the rest of the player base have already spoken.
FYI: Yes I am a mission runner, I love the PvE aspect in EVE as well as the social aspect. But I have no problem with ninja salvagers at all. Most of the good salvagers are in and out before I even notice. For some of the others we have a good yarn. I even sometimes give advice to those that are slower.
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Grimpak
Gallente
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.08.06 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: liquidsteal
You have all had it happen ,at least the people who work there own missions to make a living in EVE. ide like to have a show of err em hands to who likes and dont like this aspect of the game,lets see if the majority of players dont like it we can get ccp to stop it from happening. ps dont worry about me ,im on to a diff game if it isnt stopped .
you can't have it all.
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Gallent Stonewill
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Posted - 2009.08.06 00:45:00 -
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I haven't had a mission salvaged on me yet and I only just started to salvage my own but I accept the fact that salvage belongs to who ever gets it first. I just hope when a mission does get salvaged the person is willing to deal,I take the loot and what ever items I need to finish the job and they can take the salvage.
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.08.06 00:48:00 -
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Originally by: liquidsteal
lets see if the majority of players dont like it we can get ccp to stop it from happening. ps dont worry about me ,im on to a diff game if it isnt stopped .
Ninjas already got there with the good quotes but just to add 2 things:
1. Majority of players don't bother with the forums so you are not capturing a majority by making this content light thread.
2. You might as well leave now if you lack imagination to do anything but grind missions.
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
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Posted - 2009.08.06 00:48:00 -
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Look, it is quite simple, low sec piracy is broken and CCP don't have any ideas on fixing it. But teenage boys need something to show how tough and macho the are, so they get can flipping and salvage theft. Just ignore them till they grow some balls and head out to 0.0 or, as is more likely, go and play Hello Kitty Online.
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.08.06 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: liquidsteal
Bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Is this a troll?
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Tittibum
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Posted - 2009.08.06 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: liquidsteal
ps dont worry about me ,im on to a diff game if it isnt stopped .
Fare thee well.
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Spurty
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.06 01:02:00 -
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Personally, I feel your expectations are way too high, its not the nature of this game to give you cake and allow you to eat it.
Try to just run missions like I do. Ignore loot (unless you need some minerals) and salvage, build loyalty points.
you get your rewards from bounties/mission rewards, loyalty points and thats it.
If you 'want' to stop and salvage, you are welcome to, but now you have to compete with others.
Way I see it, 1 Level 3 mission gives me about .5 to 5mill isk and up to 500 loyalty points for 10 - 30 mins effort.
wish it was more, but thats all I expect from them.
Don't always have time for level 4s, but when I do just double those figures.
I bet some carebears are rolling their eyes at me, but I'm a casual player (i have a life). I don't burn through isk very fast, even at this rate, my wallet is healthy these days.
Perhaps if EVE is still running when my first son is old enough to play, he can loot for me, otherwise, I'd sooner run 5 missions than 1 and loot it.
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
i for one, like 8's that look like 9's lol
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Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.08.06 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: liquidsteal
You have all had it happen ,at least the people who work there own missions to make a living in EVE. ide like to have a show of err em hands to who likes and dont like this aspect of the game,lets see if the majority of players dont like it we can get ccp to stop it from happening. ps dont worry about me ,im on to a diff game if it isnt stopped .
orc orc orc orc I'm an orc!
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Spurty
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.06 01:05:00 -
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to be frank, if i need billions of isk, i'll buy it (PLEXS, gtcs), I consider it worth the cost as my play time is very limited.
so far spent $80 on ISK in almost 4 years if that helps
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
i for one, like 8's that look like 9's lol
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robbyx
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Posted - 2009.08.06 01:14:00 -
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Personally, i feel pity for ninja salvagers...after all, they are the equivalent of bums, going through other peoples garbage to sc**** a living.
Its pretty much the lowest form of ISK making in EVE....but im sure some lamer will come here and start spouting " oh man i make so much ISK going through others garbage, you noobs are just jealous"....but seriously, you're a bum.
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robbyx
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Posted - 2009.08.06 01:15:00 -
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wow..i never knew s c r a p e was a swear word.
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Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.08.06 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: robbyx
Personally, i feel pity for ninja salvagers...after all, they are the equivalent of bums, going through other peoples garbage to sc**** a living.
Its pretty much the lowest form of ISK making in EVE....but im sure some lamer will come here and start spouting " oh man i make so much ISK going through others garbage, you noobs are just jealous"....but seriously, you're a bum.
I wish I could get paid for my garbage 
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.08.06 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: robbyx
Personally, i feel pity for ninja salvagers...after all, they are the equivalent of bums, going through other peoples garbage to sc**** a living.
Its pretty much the lowest form of ISK making in EVE....but im sure some lamer will come here and start spouting " oh man i make so much ISK going through others garbage, you noobs are just jealous"....but seriously, you're a bum.
Most of the ninjas I know just do it for kicks while they engage in other more profitable exercises. It's actually mostly about the lulz from what I can tell.
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Nito Musashi
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Posted - 2009.08.06 01:20:00 -
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Edited by: Nito Musashi on 06/08/2009 01:24:29
first off give us your stuff or better yet give me your stuff, since it is working as intended ccp is not going to do a darn thing about changing it.
second move out of busy hubs to quieter hubs might halp you not get scanned down, or conversely move to bigger hubs, bigger hubs tons of players running missions tons of mission for them to scan down less likely they will find your mission.
third, if they show up before you even get started warp out let them tank, go dock for 15 minutes and go make a snack or watch some pron or tv or something, they will eventually sooner rather than ater move on to a active mission spot if you show no indication of returning to your spot on a timely manner.
fourth, shoot the wrecks, if your deep into a mission and they are bugging you pop the wrecks from BS on down, can leave the frigs half the time you get squat out of them anyway. ninjas will say this makes them laugh, but really what is more fun than watching em make a bee line for the nearest battleship wreck and you blow it to hell as they zip towards it or are trying to salvage it. hell if they are going to try and take it ruin their isk per minute blow em all up.
not rocket science, some rather effective means to minimize your annoyance, or lest make it a waste of their time to bother your missions, maybe they wil make it a point to avoid you or war dec you.
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Larkonis Trassler
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Posted - 2009.08.06 01:53:00 -
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Threat to quit Eve +5
Terrible grammar -4
Want's CCP to change the game to suit his needs +2
Overall 3/10
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Janice Jankowski
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Posted - 2009.08.06 02:14:00 -
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Change petition to have scanning wrecks functional
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wickedpheonix
Guy Fawkes Trust Fund
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Posted - 2009.08.06 02:38:00 -
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If I invoke Godwin's Law, will these threads die?
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Pesky LaRue
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.08.06 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: liquidsteal
ps dont worry about me ,im on to a diff game if it isnt stopped .
whew. thanks for putting my mind at rest.
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Veebring Greetings
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Posted - 2009.08.06 03:20:00 -
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Originally by: liquidsteal
dont worry about me ,im on to a diff game if it isnt stopped .
Can I have your stuff?
It's an old EVE tradition, when leaving give away your assets to the first who asked 
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Junko Togawa
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.08.06 04:27:00 -
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Yes, let's have it stopped. After all, wrecking the playstyles of people I don't like is the very essence of EvE. 
Also, successful troll is successful. 
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Faife
Divine Retribution
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.08.06 04:57:00 -
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i think it's a great idea, it could create absolutely safe spots in NPC 0.0. there's no possible downsides to this.
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Cors
It's A Trap
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Posted - 2009.08.06 05:55:00 -
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BUY A MARAUDER
This is a SIMPLE thing.
2 Tractor beam = 40km.
2 T2 Salvagers = VERY quick salvage time.
Kill a ship, tractor/salvage while killing the next.
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Arthur Frayn
V.O.F.L IRON CORE
H E L I C O N
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Posted - 2009.08.06 06:29:00 -
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Today I was minding my own business while [insert random insipid Eve money-making activity that saps one's will to live] when I was set upon by [insert intelligent gamers who want to extract fun and entertainment from their gaming hours] who completely ruined my already wasted day by [insert actions which might seem unfair to a four yearold with no concept of the world beyond his mother's still freshly available mammary glands].
Now I'm upset because I think [insert rationalisation about said transgressions that only a world with GI Joe and Optimus Prime in it would demand justice for] and I don't see why a gaming world should reflect the most important rule that life is hard and that everyone has to fight every day to get somewhere in it.
I expect CCP to [insert self-righteous demand that would be far more detrimental to the entire Eve playerbase because I decided long ago that what I want is more important than what's good for Eve, especially if I kick and scream loud enough] and I want it now!
And nobody has a right to tell me I'm wrong because I've been doted on for the last 25 years by my parents who let me live in their [insert basement/attic] rent free because I refuse to work for a living or better myself with a useful education, and I never learned to take my knocks like a man, knuckle down and pull myself out of my own problems.
And I certainly won't ever face up to anyone else's opinion or check back on this whine thread to see what a colossal failure at life I am in the eyes of anyone remotely worth a damn. It's dinnertime now, so I'm off to suck on my mom's nipple.
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Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.08.06 06:33:00 -
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Originally by: Arthur Frayn
Today I was minding my own business while [insert random insipid Eve money-making activity that saps one's will to live] when I was set upon by [insert intelligent gamers who want to extract fun and entertainment from their gaming hours] who completely ruined my already wasted day by [insert actions which might seem unfair to a four yearold with no concept of the world beyond his mother's still freshly available mammary glands].
Now I'm upset because I think [insert rationalisation about said transgressions that only a world with GI Joe and Optimus Prime in it would demand justice for] and I don't see why a gaming world should reflect the most important rule that life is hard and that everyone has to fight every day to get somewhere in it.
I expect CCP to [insert self-righteous demand that would be far more detrimental to the entire Eve playerbase because I decided long ago that what I want is more important than what's good for Eve, especially if I kick and scream loud enough] and I want it now!
And nobody has a right to tell me I'm wrong because I've been doted on for the last 25 years by my parents who let me live in their [insert basement/attic] rent free because I refuse to work for a living or better myself with a useful education, and I never learned to take my knocks like a man, knuckle down and pull myself out of my own problems.
And I certainly won't ever face up to anyone else's opinion or check back on this whine thread to see what a colossal failure at life I am in the eyes of anyone remotely worth a damn. It's dinnertime now, so I'm off to suck on my mom's nipple.
Color the [ Insertions ] Please, it makes my head hurt defining them from the rest of the paragraph
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