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Aus Dog
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Posted - 2009.08.06 01:28:00 -
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You guys will be pleased to know that they threw all the rules of SP's and great tracking etc etc and wrote frigates that can't be scratched by 4 Cruise Missiles throwing Caldari Navy and two heavies throwing Caldari Navy and all six and two 425mm guns simultaneously on one frigate and can't scratch them. Oh. And they were webbed and painted. Yep. You can force me to use drones but in doing so you negate all your rules about signature radius and tracking and training up skills etc. Hades Bells. Why not go all the way and make them truly invincible.
"Owning a dog teaches a child Honesty, Loyalty, and to always circle three times before lying down".....Mark Twain |
hurrdurrimmaburr
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Posted - 2009.08.06 01:55:00 -
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BECAUSE OF FALCON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thugger'naut
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Posted - 2009.08.06 02:02:00 -
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Deaudlus
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Posted - 2009.08.06 02:28:00 -
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I generally dont rock on people's spelling and grammar and such on forums as I think it's a childish thing to do but seriously... I had to read that three times just to get a general idea of what you were talking about.
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SquadBroken
Helljumpers
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Posted - 2009.08.06 02:30:00 -
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NO U!
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Davinel Lulinvega
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Posted - 2009.08.06 02:57:00 -
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You're just the gift that keeps on giving aren't you?
 Originally by: CCP Tuxford
Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke!
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Joe Forumtroll
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Posted - 2009.08.06 03:38:00 -
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Lay of the booze and you`ll remember that you are still docked in a station and this frigate scratching business only happend in EFT.
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Disco Flint
The Flaming Sideburn's
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Posted - 2009.08.06 07:46:00 -
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why do you have rails and heavy launchers on your Raven?
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.08.06 08:40:00 -
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Originally by: Aus Dog
You guys will be pleased to know that they threw all the rules of SP's and great tracking etc etc and wrote frigates that can't be scratched by 4 Cruise Missiles throwing Caldari Navy and two heavies throwing Caldari Navy and all six and two 425mm guns simultaneously on one frigate and can't scratch them. Oh. And they were webbed and painted. Yep. You can force me to use drones but in doing so you negate all your rules about signature radius and tracking and training up skills etc. Hades Bells. Why not go all the way and make them truly invincible.
**** off, you dreadful troll.
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Aus Dog
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Posted - 2009.08.06 14:31:00 -
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People that just waste peoples time with aimless attacks on people they don't know are the true Trolls. That's bad. Eight replies and only one is polite and serious and yet aside from a run-on sentence I can't find anything wrong with my grammar. Seriously the Trolls are the people that just login to attack people. Nobody forced you to read my post. If you don't like my posts then DON'T READ THEM AND DON'T REPLY TO THEM!!
"Owning a dog teaches a child Honesty, Loyalty, and to always circle three times before lying down".....Mark Twain |
Ghengis Tia
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Posted - 2009.08.06 14:51:00 -
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How a webbed and painted frig can't be touched by a CN heavy missile baffles me.
You need to train up your missile support skills, as that's the only reason I can guess this magic frigate can take no damage. Having rails, HMLs, and CMLs on the same ship indicates you need to spend some time researching fitting threads for your Raven.
I'm guessing you're PvPing, as using faction ammo for missions is a big waste of Isk.
And really, that drone bay is not for putting in beehives and making honey. Take a step back, a few deep breaths, and re-commit yourself to becoming a better pilot. One day you'll smile when you think of this thread.
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Zhilia Mann
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Posted - 2009.08.06 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Aus Dog
You guys will be pleased to know that they threw all the rules of SP's and great tracking etc etc and wrote frigates that can't be scratched by 4 Cruise Missiles throwing Caldari Navy and two heavies throwing Caldari Navy and all six and two 425mm guns simultaneously on one frigate and can't scratch them. Oh. And they were webbed and painted. Yep. You can force me to use drones but in doing so you negate all your rules about signature radius and tracking and training up skills etc. Hades Bells. Why not go all the way and make them truly invincible.
Let's play a little game I like to call Occam's razor.
- You have a problem doing x.
- No one else -- presumably several thousand people all told -- seem to have a problem doing x.
[*]Which party is having problems?
You've consistently ignored good advice. You refuse to use half of it. You don't give context. You don't absorb context from others.
EVE has a learning curve. Deal with it.
As to your situation, just to try to be productive, what level of mission? What kind of rat? What type of ammo are you using? What's your full loadout?
For L4s I like both my Nighthawk and my sentry Domi. Neither have had any issues at all taking down elite frigs. To diagnose the issue you're having more information is needed.
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Karl Luckner
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Posted - 2009.08.06 15:29:00 -
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Still doing L2 with failfit Ravens ? Ok, so you hate drones and against every logic you refuse to use them.
I would propose the following:
Highs:
6x Arbalest or T2 Aussault Missile Launcher (NOT heavy aussault) with standard light missiles
2x whatever (Maybe a set of lasers, since cap should be no problem in an L2 mission)
Meds:
XL shielbooster
shield boost amplifier
3x mission specific hardeners or just invuls
100 MN afterburner
Lows:
signal amplifier
3x ballistic controls
power diagnostic system
Riggs:
I wouldn't waste Riggs on a level 2 Raven of doom
And as you don't like them no drones 
And if this all fails just get 2 large smartbombs and a capinjector.
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Terminus Vindictus
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.08.06 15:55:00 -
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Aus Dog is at it again I see! LOL!
Dude, seriously, train some friggin skills before you post crap about the game being unplayable for you because you can't hit anything! People have tried over and over to give you good advice, but it seems you just come on these forums to bash the game, and in the process making yourself look ridiculous. That makes you a troll.
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Gartel Reiman
Civis Romanus Sum
Pax Romana Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.06 17:20:00 -
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Use drones. Still. 
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Aus Dog
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Posted - 2009.08.06 18:11:00 -
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Edited by: Aus Dog on 06/08/2009 18:11:23
I didn't say it was unplayable. Aside from the video crashes point out one place I said it was unplayable. My complaint is when I clear two beloved Medium slots and put on Optical Tracking for a 12% boost to tracking and do it again for a theoretical 48% boost minus stacking penalty and add to that an 8% boost for Fourier tracking and my gun has not changed its' tracking properties 1% since the original 24%. And my attention to grammar is for my friend but with the horrible grammar and spelling that is elsewhere in this forum I would think you would find much better grist elsewhere.
"Owning a dog teaches a child Honesty, Loyalty, and to always circle three times before lying down".....Mark Twain |
Aus Dog
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Posted - 2009.08.07 08:30:00 -
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Even with Large Phased Plasma shells from supposedly Tracking optimized Dual 425mm Scout guns I'm lucky to hit anything even aside from the "Super"-frigates. My friend said big guns for big ships.Even with the 48% tracking improvement and 8% on top of that minus stacking the tracking abilities have not budged. If someone understands that I would really appreciate some clarification. IRL an Elephant gun will kill you just as dead at 10 feet as it does at 100 yds.
"Owning a dog teaches a child Honesty, Loyalty, and to always circle three times before lying down".....Mark Twain |
Aus Dog
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Posted - 2009.08.07 08:36:00 -
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BTW. I'm back on Lvl 3's and as long as I pick and choose carefully my ticker doesn't complain. And as many Lvl 3's as I have run during my career I think I have run almost all except Blockade (which got my Raven scrammed during Lvl 4 DPS and blown up and almost podded).
"Owning a dog teaches a child Honesty, Loyalty, and to always circle three times before lying down".....Mark Twain |
The B055
Gallente
Gold Stallion Troop
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Posted - 2009.08.07 08:46:00 -
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You do know what a Battleship is... right?
Battleship:
LARGE SHIP - LARGE WEAPONS/MISSILES
Frigate:
SMALL SHIP - SMALL WEAPONS/MISSILES
Oh and dont end up arguing or complaining of forum unless you've done your research. kthaxbai
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Taua Roqa
Minmatar
junQtion
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Posted - 2009.08.07 08:47:00 -
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ops a fukken troll
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Taradis
Amarr
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2009.08.07 08:48:00 -
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Zaqar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.08.07 09:13:00 -
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Originally by: Aus Dog
Even with Large Phased Plasma shells from supposedly Tracking optimized Dual 425mm Scout guns I'm lucky to hit anything even aside from the "Super"-frigates. My friend said big guns for big ships.Even with the 48% tracking improvement and 8% on top of that minus stacking the tracking abilities have not budged. If someone understands that I would really appreciate some clarification. IRL an Elephant gun will kill you just as dead at 10 feet as it does at 100 yds.
Here's a clue for you: signature resolution 
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M's Echo
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Posted - 2009.08.07 09:28:00 -
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There are 3 things involved in hitting a target with turret based weapons.
1. Weapon range vs. Target range
2. Signature resolution (of the weapon) vs. Signature radius (of target ship)
3. Tracking speed vs. Radial velocity
I have a feeling I'l be wasting my time if i detail this for you so I'll just say this. BS size guns=Sig resolution of 400. Frigate size ships often have a Sig. radius around 50. That is a big issue by itself even with a target painter 50*1.3= 65. Those are just rough numbers but hopefully that highlights a problem for you.
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Aus Dog
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Posted - 2009.08.09 11:50:00 -
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Echo and others. I was starting to study on that. I take it if a large gun has a large Sig Res then like a miss-matched missile to target it either misses or much of the damage doesn't register. And BTW. Just because I don't always come back and say that one's idea was the magic bullet but I do use all the info y'all are kind enuff to give. I have stacked two optical tracking computers with tracking script and stack futher with Fourier Tracking Bump(s). But improving the tracking doesn't cure disparities in Sig Res and Sig. I thought the Painters only helped missiles. Faction Tracking boosts can go up to 21% per module. Since I don't have unlimited slots, which helps me hit and stick better. Target Paint or Tracking boosts but I will be trying variations on mixing the two back in some level 2's so I'm not screwing around while Rome Burns. Mixed metaphor? It really is a pain cause for Level 3 by the time you get big enuff to snuff the rats then Tracking is out the window even with lots of boosters.
"Owning a dog teaches a child Honesty, Loyalty, and to always circle three times before lying down".....Mark Twain |
Novantco
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.08.09 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Aus Dog
Echo and others. I was starting to study on that. I take it if a large gun has a large Sig Res then like a miss-matched missile to target it either misses or much of the damage doesn't register. And BTW. Just because I don't always come back and say that one's idea was the magic bullet but I do use all the info y'all are kind enuff to give. I have stacked two optical tracking computers with tracking script and stack futher with Fourier Tracking Bump(s). But improving the tracking doesn't cure disparities in Sig Res and Sig. I thought the Painters only helped missiles. Faction Tracking boosts can go up to 21% per module. Since I don't have unlimited slots, which helps me hit and stick better. Target Paint or Tracking boosts but I will be trying variations on mixing the two back in some level 2's so I'm not screwing around while Rome Burns. Mixed metaphor? It really is a pain cause for Level 3 by the time you get big enuff to snuff the rats then Tracking is out the window even with lots of boosters.
Madness.
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Lindsay Logan
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Posted - 2009.08.09 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Aus Dog
Echo and others. I was starting to study on that. I take it if a large gun has a large Sig Res then like a miss-matched missile to target it either misses or much of the damage doesn't register. And BTW. Just because I don't always come back and say that one's idea was the magic bullet but I do use all the info y'all are kind enuff to give. I have stacked two optical tracking computers with tracking script and stack futher with Fourier Tracking Bump(s). But improving the tracking doesn't cure disparities in Sig Res and Sig. I thought the Painters only helped missiles. Faction Tracking boosts can go up to 21% per module. Since I don't have unlimited slots, which helps me hit and stick better. Target Paint or Tracking boosts but I will be trying variations on mixing the two back in some level 2's so I'm not screwing around while Rome Burns. Mixed metaphor? It really is a pain cause for Level 3 by the time you get big enuff to snuff the rats then Tracking is out the window even with lots of boosters.
What?
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The B055
Gallente
Gold Stallion Troop
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Posted - 2009.08.09 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Lindsay Logan
Originally by: Aus Dog
stuff.
What?
^this
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Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2009.08.09 12:12:00 -
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Aus, are you familiar with the term "Shot group"? If someone says "I can get a 3 inch shot group at 400 yards" it means that with a particular firearm at 400 yards, every bullet fired will land within a 3 inch diameter circle. Consider the signature resolution of a weapon to be the shot group.
Now, let's look at this visually. Take a piece of paper and draw a circle 6 inches in diameter on it. Now, take another piece of paper and draw a 1 inch diameter circle on that one, and cut out the small circle. Lay the small circle inside the larger. The large circle is the signature resolution of a battleship's guns. All shots fired will land somewhere in that circle. The small circle is the signature of a frigate. The shot has to land inside that circle to hit the frigate. How much of the area of the big circle is covered by the small? Not much, right?
There is no module, nor is there a combination of modules, that will allow a battleship gun to hit a frigate. None. Nada. Zip. It's not happening. All you can do is increase the chances. And since those chances are a tiny number to begin with, increasing them makes very little difference.
Do this for me, please. You say you don't like drones. That's fine. Train the following skills in this order. It should take you at most 3 weeks.
Drones V
Scout Drone Operation V
Drone Interfacing III
Gallente Drone Specialization I
Now, when you're done with this, buy some Hobgoblin IIs, and put them in the bay of your mission ship. Go do your mission. Fit your ship with all large weapons, and ignore the frigates with the guns. Any frigates that get on you, release 5 Hobgoblin IIs and send them after the frigates, then ignore them again. When all the frigates are dead, call the drones back. I think you will be shocked at how fast they chew through all the frigates, and you don't need to use them for anything else.
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Storm Templar
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.08.09 12:56:00 -
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Paragraphs mate, paragraphs will get your point across more coherently. It breaks up what you're saying so the audience will know that you have just changed a point and now onto another issue. Thought they taught you this at school?
Anyway, trying to hit fast frigate with 425mm railguns is ridiculous. If you can use 425mm railguns mean that you can pilot a battleship and to pilot a battleship. If you're still trying to hit frigs with large railguns, might as well.....give up. Also, the part of trying to get frigs with cruise missiles is ridiculous, don't expect cruisies to do 100+ on frigs. Most you can hope for is 30-50, you're just chipping away wasting your 150+ isk cruise missiles.
I agree with the above poster, use drones, they are your best friend against something like frigates. They'll eat frigates for breakfast and perhaps cruisers too if you used the right type of drones.If you're refusing to use drones against frigs you're refusing to adapt and because you refuse to adapt, you deserve to get your die. It gives you no right to come to the forum and whine about something that can be easily solved.
Open your eyes and see reason, perhaps follow the above advices and things will be a lot easier. =)
Having an aneurysm over your lack of paragraphs,
Stormie.
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Contralto
GCHQ
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Posted - 2009.08.09 13:24:00 -
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Edited by: Contralto on 09/08/2009 13:26:49
Try a Drake with light missiles, and room for the poor unloved light drones when you finally give in and start using them.
Only time a 425mm is going to hit a frig is if it is motoring straight at you at 40km +
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Kessiaan
Minmatar
DEATHFUNK
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.09 13:25:00 -
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Let me guess, you were shooting kinetic missiles at an Ishkur like every clueless Raven pilot does?
How to effortlessly kill short-range frigs in a Raven:
1) Load up the correct damage type of missiles
2) Fit neuts instead of guns.
3) When they come in close, neut them.
4) Wait a couple of cycles (you'll know when their cap is dead as their tackle will shut down and they'll slow down a lot), then launch your drones and shoot your missiles and lol as they die.
Like everything else in EvE, it's not about "he rules of SP's and great tracking etc etc", it's about knowing what the hell you're doing.
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BalZ
Gallente
topSTUFFed Productions Inc
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Posted - 2009.08.09 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Aus Dog
People that just waste peoples time with aimless attacks on people [...] people that just login to attack people
Lots of people 
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Aus Dog
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Posted - 2009.08.11 11:53:00 -
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As someone has said b4 in these pages, Level 3 can be very erratic. Trying as hard as I can go to improve tracking to the best it can be. The neut might work but I'm getting frigates that accept Level 4 DPS B4 dying. I have been in missions with them webbed and painted and still require 6 missile launchers throwing all Caldari Navy and it would take a good 15 minutes each. As if "invulnerable" frigates weren't bad enough they are actually close to knocking me outta my. The camera shook so violently and constantly, I couldn't see what I was doing and almost fell out of my chair from continuous visual "Over-stimulation". I found a rig to boost tracking and am working on getting the T2 version now. It's a fine line to dance between guns that pack enough puch but can still hit the broad side of a barn door. I will give your Neuts suggest a go as that is about the only thing as yet untried.
"Owning a dog teaches a child Honesty, Loyalty, and to always circle three times before lying down".....Mark Twain |
Christina Bamar
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.08.11 12:09:00 -
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Originally by: Aus Dog
As someone has said b4 in these pages, Level 3 can be very erratic. Trying as hard as I can go to improve tracking to the best it can be. The neut might work but I'm getting frigates that accept Level 4 DPS B4 dying. I have been in missions with them webbed and painted and still require 6 missile launchers throwing all Caldari Navy and it would take a good 15 minutes each. As if "invulnerable" frigates weren't bad enough they are actually close to knocking me outta my. The camera shook so violently and constantly, I couldn't see what I was doing and almost fell out of my chair from continuous visual "Over-stimulation". I found a rig to boost tracking and am working on getting the T2 version now. It's a fine line to dance between guns that pack enough puch but can still hit the broad side of a barn door. I will give your Neuts suggest a go as that is about the only thing as yet untried.
Hilarious
On the off chance that you're serious, it's really quite simple, drones.
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Max 0'warp
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Posted - 2009.08.11 12:28:00 -
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No matter what you do your large guns will not hit a small fast moving frigate, think of trying to shoot a mosquito with a handgun - unless you are freakishly lucky you wont hit. Frigates are like that to BS guns.
If you want to breeze through L3 missions fly a Drake with heavy missiles and drones. Its a truly awesome ship, even for someone with fairly low SPs. Its faster than the Raven, will tank forever with a half-decent fit and should you totally balls-up the mission it is a damn sight cheaper than a Raven to replace. The other really cool thing is that as your skills grow the awesomeness of the Drake grows with you. You can do L4 missions in one and they work quite nicely in Class 1 and 2 wormholes with the right skills and fit.
I think of Ravens are the SUVs of New Eden. Every middling-skilled mission runner has one and they make them feel safe with all that metal around them but they are ugly, ungainly and often wasted in the roles for which they are used.
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Dragas Amitar
Gallente
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.08.11 13:14:00 -
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Right. I read most of your loltopics here, so basics are as following:
DRONES, use them and use them a lot. They're the only way you're gonna hit frigate-sized ships in a BS.
Large sized weapons are used against large size opponents, not the other way around.
If you can't do level 4s in a Raven, YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG, as it is quite obvious from your poasts.
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Cupcake Girl
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Posted - 2009.08.11 13:31:00 -
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TL;DR
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Mes Caline
Amarr
Carebear Poachers plc
SCUM.
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Posted - 2009.08.11 13:43:00 -
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using tracking rigs to enhance missiles =p you are going to go far in this game. pop into lowsec sometime!
I are teh poastin'
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Regat Kozovv
Caldari
Alcothology
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Posted - 2009.08.11 14:59:00 -
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I love these threads.
Aus, post your fit, will you?
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Panzram
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.11 16:58:00 -
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i once accidentally crapped myself at the YMCA. talk about a dirty pool.
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Aus Dog
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Posted - 2009.08.16 07:29:00 -
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Regat. I assume you have heard of Suicide Ganking. Also if you completely post your fit you just educated your enemies as to how best to nail you. I have found one good gun only that comes as close to riding the line between having zero guts and not able to hit anything that isn't sitting dead still begging to be shot. I refer to the 425mm Scout autocannon with a T2 Projectile Metastasis whatsis (the rig), an Optical Tracking Program with Tracking Script and The Fourier Transform in Lo-slot. Darn shame that you have to devote such a large percentage of your setup to tracking just to produce usable guns. And if the single 425 auto tracks fairly well then why does the Dual 425 track drop to like half as well. The Dual 425 is supposed to be two 425's so you would think it would track in the same ballpark. Not so.
"Owning a dog teaches a child Honesty, Loyalty, and to always circle three times before lying down".....Mark Twain |
Cpt Branko
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.08.16 07:43:00 -
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Originally by: Gavin DeVries
Aus, are you familiar with the term "Shot group"? If someone says "I can get a 3 inch shot group at 400 yards" it means that with a particular firearm at 400 yards, every bullet fired will land within a 3 inch diameter circle. Consider the signature resolution of a weapon to be the shot group.
This is in fact very logical and sensible, but it does not work this way in EVE. There is no damage reduction based on signature radius alone - it is a factor of the tracking formula. So that BS gun with a sig radius of 400 firing at a frigate with 40m sig resolution will mean the BS has a 0.1 modifier on tracking.
So, for instance, if the frigate has 0.3 rad/sec angular velocity, and the BS gun has, eg. 0.3 rad/sec tracking (which would mean you hit the frigate reasonably well), after signature radius considerations your gun effectively has 0.03 tracking - which translates into missing it.
Now, with the horrible tracking of BS guns, you won't hit frigates well at all unless they're very far away from you and moving in a straight line, but cruiser guns will still beat them senseless with a bit of proper piloting to minimize angular velocity.
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zombeee
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.08.16 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: Aus Dog
Regat. I assume you have heard of Suicide Ganking. Also if you completely post your fit you just educated your enemies as to how best to nail you.
It's really quite simple to nail you, just orbit in a frigate
Bad analogy #938: You're trying to rig a civil war cannon to hit someone running around it. Good luck
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Salia WinterDrake
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.08.17 00:53:00 -
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AusDog -
I can see you're trying to use a sledgehammer to swat a fly. Improving your tracking just won't help large gun (or cruise missiles) to hit fast moving frigates.
Battleship guns track poorly to begin with, and the improved tracking simply will not improve the guns enough to make them useful.
When I was doing L3 missions, I used a simple Drake battlecruiser, with all heavy missile launchers and Hammerhead drones. The Drake takes an absolute beating, and will survive the hairiest of L3's without flinching. The heavy launchers will kill frigs, a bit slowly, but they will do it if you really don't like using drones. Or try swapping a couple of heavy launchers for standard launchers - these fire lighter missiles that will kill frigs faster.
If you have Evemon, look up the Drake and the Raven in the ship browser, and click on the little Battleclinic link to see other players popular setups.
Many of those will be labelled "PVP" or "Mission". Check up on the mission fits and see what works.
Please stop trying to squeeze a round peg into a square hole :-) For L3's the Drake kicks ass and is much cheaper too.
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Shatner19
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Posted - 2009.08.17 03:25:00 -
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Edited by: Shatner19 on 17/08/2009 03:36:04
hey aus contact me in game, hopefully we can sort all this out and i will instruct you on how to effectively deal with all ship types in pve.
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Scorian Draith
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Posted - 2009.08.17 04:40:00 -
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THIS IS GAME!!
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Eldern Minderhost
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Posted - 2009.08.17 05:31:00 -
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game? THIS. IS. RAVEN!!!!
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Mistress Jasmine
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Posted - 2009.08.17 05:50:00 -
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lol THIS IS SPAAARTA
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Aus Dog
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Posted - 2009.08.21 00:10:00 -
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Edited by: Aus Dog on 21/08/2009 00:12:38
As I say. With a hundred things done to affect tracking the 425mm Medium Scout kills anything 11km or less with the exception of the invulnerable Support Frigates the 425mm has finally quenched my blood-thirst. With those it has nothing to do with tracking, webbing , or painting. Doing the third part of Technological Secrets I unloaded all six Cruise Launchers on a single Support Frigate that was painted for at least 15 minutes. Not a scratch. They finally made them truly invulnerable. As we don't have access to Kryptonite Missiles the GM agreed it was a bug. This time they were Republic Support Frigates instead of Gallente but when A GM agrees there is a problem that's good enuff for me. I got the AX implant for Slot 7 and that put the 425mm tracking over 2.0 and made it deadly as Hades. Just astounds me that a Dual 425 which is supposed to be just two 425's has the tracking drop by like half. Too bad.
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Amitious Turkey
Gallente
TarNec
New Eden Retail Federation
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Posted - 2009.08.21 00:16:00 -
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Edited by: Amitious Turkey on 21/08/2009 00:16:33
Aus Dog, I still have no idea what you're talking about...
I don't get your title either...
BECAUSE OF FALCONDUST!
Originally by: CCP Navigator
We love you all as well <3
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General Paul
League of Disgruntled Fast Food Employees
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Posted - 2009.08.21 00:23:00 -
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you could try equipping a friend, in a kestrel.
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Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.08.21 02:04:00 -
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Fortunately there is a very simple problem:
1) Launch T2 light drones of appropriate damage type.
2) Watch frigate die in seconds while killing the bigger ships with your guns.
Stop whining about game balance when it's your own fault you suck at this game.
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Merin is currently enjoying a 14 day vacation from the forums. Until she returns, you've got me to entertain you!
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Davinel Lulinvega
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Posted - 2009.08.21 02:13:00 -
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Originally by: Sera Ryskin
Fortunately there is a very simple problem:
1) Launch T2 light drones of appropriate damage type.
2) Watch frigate die in seconds while killing the bigger ships with your guns.
Stop whining about game balance when it's your own fault you suck at this game.
Hasn't it been 14 days already?
Originally by: CCP Tuxford
Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke!
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techzer0
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.08.21 02:30:00 -
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Originally by: Disco Flint
why do you have rails and heavy launchers on your Raven?
you caught that too? 
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Originally by: Nexus Kinnon
I could outgay you even without my pink tutu. >.>
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Davinel Lulinvega
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Posted - 2009.08.21 02:44:00 -
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Originally by: techzer0
Originally by: Disco Flint
why do you have rails and heavy launchers on your Raven?
you caught that too?
Welcome to an aus dog thread.
Check your brain at the door.
Originally by: CCP Tuxford
Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke!
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AFTERMARKET
Caldari
I Love Furries
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Posted - 2009.08.21 02:59:00 -
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425's eat mission frigs for breakfast as they don't zigzag on the approach. If they get close you can use drones or smart bombs if you like to keep things exciting.
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