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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2012.05.28 09:08:00 -
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Callidus Dux wrote:CCP Optimal wrote: ..... I beg you to honestly give the new system a try. If you still don't like it and you aren't able to find an equally good or better work flow for your tasks, tell us why. Many of you have already done so, and we will are already acting on that feedback, but keep it coming.
Again: Read the forum. It Sucks AND AND AND: Restore the old UI as it was before 22.05.2012! Nothing more. Restore the UI. No Chortcuts; no lag; Icons in my NeoCom, double clicks at the icons in my assets and hundreds of independent, adjustable in size and positition, windows. NOTHING MORE! We want to be able to have an EXACT copy of the former UI. Are you willed to change it so that we can have it? Can someone form CCP respond to this demand? I am feeling ignored from CCP. maybe because you just ignored them? Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
MotherMoon
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Posted - 2012.05.28 09:15:00 -
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Quote:Making it optional is also not optional (confusingly enough) as it would require us to maintain two systems side by side which would cause an exponential increase in code and interface complexity if we were to make a habit of it
but that is just NOT TRUE. Come on guys, I support the tree view. but if you don't think you can code it to be optinal, you're kidding your self.
set default to buttons in the game and neocom open in a new window.
make it so you have to click the >> button to open the tree UI. Only clicking in the tree UI open that in the same window.
make sure the tree UI remember if it was left open or closed per window.
DONE, IT IS NOW OPTIONAL.
Note I fully support the new UI. However, an you please please tell me what is holding you back from doing something like what I posted above? Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
MotherMoon
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Posted - 2012.05.28 09:26:00 -
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Archibald Frederick III wrote:Cloned S0ul wrote:Hi Devs. [...]
My question to you CCP, why you change best working mechanism in game ?
Ps.While we old players can deal with your new full of wired mechanic inventory im 100% sure newbis need spent more time to discovery how it works... Why you bring chaos to game ? Since I've been playing for less than a month, perhaps I'm less invested in some of the more complex game systems or haven't been exposed to some of the use cases that people feel have been messed up. Maybe. However, I can say with assurance that the new system is MUCH easier for 'newbis' such as myself to get our heads around. It would take some mighty rose-tinted goggles to say that the inventory was 'the best working mechanism in the game,' and while the new system has plenty of room for improvement, this is a good and necessary thing that you are doing. I feel like not enough people are saying that. Fix the bugs, restore the lost functionality, but never believe that the playerbase is unanimous in wanting a return to the good old days.
psft I'm still fighting to get back per-trinity modeled. they looks SOOOO much better back then. /sarcasm Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
MotherMoon
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Posted - 2012.05.28 19:52:00 -
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disasteur wrote:Logicycle wrote:CCP Optimal wrote:
I must stretch what has already been stated that reverting the entire thing is not an option (It's also as good as technically impossible).
lies. its not an option because you dont want it to be an option? (my guess is that the code is to deep integraded in the entire system?) technically impossible? not true a complete roleback has done before (how many days that took for you to consider?) would be strange if in case of an emergency you couldnt restore it, but ok what ever you say is a roleback desireable? guess not cus then the other half will start to complain..... how about this, in station the new look and feel, with the suggested modifications, in space more like the old look and feel? yup just go up and red my post, it literally takes 3 changes to keep the new UI and the old. It's so easy I could code it. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
MotherMoon
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Posted - 2012.05.29 00:15:00 -
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Mullethead wrote:Dear CCP
We appreciate that you want to make this new inventory clicky clicky work and for persistence you all get top marks...well done (golf claps).
What many/alot/tons of us REALLY want is a way to revert to the old style of inventory. Heaps of us have been asking for a button to tick to do this for a week now.
Granted this new inventory has some nice features but (its a big but) lets not turn Eve into "File Tree Online"!
It takes a lot longer to do just about anything with this inventory.
Please for the love of all thing Amarrian give us a way to disable the damn thing and revert to the old inventory sytle and system!
If you can do it for ship spinning/CQ you can do it for this.
Its only a little check box. The check box is allready there. It closes the tree. It's in the items window itself Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
MotherMoon
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Posted - 2012.05.29 08:26:00 -
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Maraner wrote:Unwanted, disliked, laggy, unresposnsive, buggy, slower than what we had and just plain stupid given the mountains of feedback prior to launch.
It's INCARNA 2.0
Step up and roll it back or make it optional - prove that you have learn't from the past and adapted and evolved from your Incarna moment. Dont roll this in to another 5k subsription loss moment of madness, get it back to Sisi, get it fixed then deploy it.
it's not incarna 2.0
Back then they didn't say "oh man we're unhappy with it tooa nd will fix it" they waited like a month before saying"ok ok we're dumb sorry."
So no it's not the same, but you'r point is still on mark. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
MotherMoon
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Posted - 2012.05.29 08:34:00 -
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TravelBuoy wrote:MotherMoon wrote:Mullethead wrote:Dear CCP
We appreciate that you want to make this new inventory clicky clicky work and for persistence you all get top marks...well done (golf claps).
What many/alot/tons of us REALLY want is a way to revert to the old style of inventory. Heaps of us have been asking for a button to tick to do this for a week now.
Granted this new inventory has some nice features but (its a big but) lets not turn Eve into "File Tree Online"!
It takes a lot longer to do just about anything with this inventory.
Please for the love of all thing Amarrian give us a way to disable the damn thing and revert to the old inventory sytle and system!
If you can do it for ship spinning/CQ you can do it for this.
Its only a little check box. The check box is allready there. It closes the tree. It's in the items window itself And i have button for hide you posts. :P This inventory tree is crap. We want separated windows. We dont want to see pos modules in our cargo.We dont want push shift+mouse buttons thousand times ,over and over because bad developed UI. We want chop this trees. It's a spaceship game, who want to docking up to inventory ? Thats why i said , this is a "DockingInventoryBay" This is ridiculous and unlogic thing. Bring back the old hangar button.
well then son you better stop hiding my posts because I've already said everything you just said. All i said was the button is already there to hide the tree UI. How did you get all angry from that? it's almost like what you just posted was 100% unrelated to what you quoted :/
my posts was in SUPPORT of your post. man you guys gotta calm down you're even attacking you're allies now.good luck with that.
oh i'll spell it out you're most liekly still raging while reading this.
THE NEW UI ALREADY HAS A BUTTON TO CHOP THE TREE OFF. IT"S A BUTTON IN THE TOP CORNER LOOKS LIKE THIS. <<
THIS MEANS WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR IS ALREADY IN REACH. ALL THEY NEED TO DO IS TIE THE BEHAVIOR OF THE ITEMS UI TO THE LITTLE BUTTON THAT CLOSES THE THE TREE UI.
Do you not get why being able to close the tree ui is a good thing? or how it means it would be optional as soon as it remembers that you closes the tree? Stop being such a child. you're acting like just knowing the tree could be opened would ruin the game for you. please, if that's really the case, then your a dunce.
seriously go back, read my posts asking for the old hanger buttons and for all windows to open ina new window unless the tree is used.
then make it so the tree remember if it was opened or closed.
i want ALL WINDOWS to be opened in a new window unless the tree is used.
so the only thing you'd have to deal with is the >> button taunting you.
Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
MotherMoon
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Posted - 2012.05.29 18:50:00 -
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Mordarx wrote:Could we have it so we can open multiple of those inventory windows? I know it sounds counter intuitive but I think it will make feel much less limiting. You Allready can. Note the >> button in new Windows Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
MotherMoon
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Posted - 2012.05.30 03:09:00 -
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I really to hope you'll watch this CCP_Optimal. I put a good amount of work into it, and I've never recorded my voice before for anything.
Just something I put together for more effective feedback. I hope you find it useful. http://youtu.be/HcG5Ha5wAFY Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
MotherMoon
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Posted - 2012.05.30 05:48:00 -
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ZaBob wrote:MotherMoon wrote:I really to hope you'll watch this CCP_Optimal. I put a good amount of work into it, and I've never recorded my voice before for anything. Just something I put together for more effective feedback. I hope you find it useful. http://youtu.be/HcG5Ha5wAFY Sheer genius! Not half so much for accurately capturing what's needed, as leveraging Windows 7 to make such a powerful demonstration. The use of Windows 7 as a metaphor even makes a very strong case for WHY this is what's needed. Not just the familiarity factor (although that's real), but because Windows 7's functionality has evolved from a long history of experience with similar needs. It's also worth noting that very similar functionality is found in MacOS and various Linux file managers.
Thanks mate : D Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2012.05.30 06:31:00 -
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Quote:Today, I'm mining--in between spates of screaming obscenities at my monitor.
jezz man it's just a video game. I don't think I've ever yelled at a video game in my life. not that your frustration is unwarrentled mind you, just, yeah dude, give it a stupid look and play something else while they fix this up. Not wroth getting so upset over you start swearing at it, it can't hear you. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
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