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Posted - 2004.10.09 04:57:00 -
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I dont understand why anyone isnt asking this, and I havent found any threads about it because this forum doesnt have a search function like any NORMAL forum does; But why are eve prices being raised for everyone not in europe? Why does europe get treated special? I am having a hard time justifying CURRENT prices, let alone an increase.
If I am to pay an increased price, I better see increased performance from eve and far less bugs than there are now. Performance for the most part is already ok. But every common bug thats been around for the past 6 months or better, and new ones, like the glaring one with diplomacy, need to be fixed BEFORE prices are raised.
I think I might give up eve with learning of this increase for what seems to be no reason. I dont feel like paying more. I have 2 accounts so its actually double for me. I feel sorry for anyone with more accounts than me.
Prices should be going DOWN if anything. As more people join eve, this should be our benefit. My words may not go over well but I dont care. I hope you look forward to losing a customer. If its any colsolation, the game was fun and the price was ALMOST justified until you raised it.
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Posted - 2004.10.09 04:57:00 -
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I dont understand why anyone isnt asking this, and I havent found any threads about it because this forum doesnt have a search function like any NORMAL forum does; But why are eve prices being raised for everyone not in europe? Why does europe get treated special? I am having a hard time justifying CURRENT prices, let alone an increase.
If I am to pay an increased price, I better see increased performance from eve and far less bugs than there are now. Performance for the most part is already ok. But every common bug thats been around for the past 6 months or better, and new ones, like the glaring one with diplomacy, need to be fixed BEFORE prices are raised.
I think I might give up eve with learning of this increase for what seems to be no reason. I dont feel like paying more. I have 2 accounts so its actually double for me. I feel sorry for anyone with more accounts than me.
Prices should be going DOWN if anything. As more people join eve, this should be our benefit. My words may not go over well but I dont care. I hope you look forward to losing a customer. If its any colsolation, the game was fun and the price was ALMOST justified until you raised it.
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Stop screwing up whats currently in the game and add the new content that was promised months ago. Thanks. |
sableye
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Posted - 2004.10.09 05:05:00 -
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prices have to change with inflation/deflation, but were does it mention the prices are changing not seen anything about it.
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sableye
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Posted - 2004.10.09 05:05:00 -
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prices have to change with inflation/deflation, but were does it mention the prices are changing not seen anything about it.
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DJMike
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Posted - 2004.10.09 05:11:00 -
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its in the newsletter
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Covenant US-Time Zone Director
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DJMike
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Posted - 2004.10.09 05:11:00 -
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its in the newsletter
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Covenant US-Time Zone Director
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S'Daria
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Posted - 2004.10.09 05:41:00 -
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Edited by: S'Daria on 09/10/2004 05:45:29
 Originally by: EVE Newsletter
Europe
Cost/month* Total cost*
1-month-plan Ç 14.95 Ç 14.95
3-month-plan Ç 12.95 Ç 38.85
6-month-plan Ç 11.95 Ç 71.70
12-month-plan Ç 10.95 Ç 131.40
* VAT included
European Union E-commerce Directive 2002/38/EC, Regulation 792/2002 stipulates that all EU residents must pay a Value Added Tax (VAT) on electronically supplied services including online games. CCP is thus obligated to add a VAT on all payment transactions for customers living within the EU.
Outside Europe
Cost/month Total cost
1-month-plan $ 14.95 $ 14.95
3-month-plan $ 12.95 $ 38.85
6-month-plan $ 11.95 $ 71.70
12-month-plan $ 10.95 $ 131.40
The effective date of this price change is the 28th of October 2004
The 12 month subscription will be available on the 15. October 2004.
No change for people outside Europe.
They just are adding the 12 month plan.
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S'Daria
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Posted - 2004.10.09 05:41:00 -
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Edited by: S'Daria on 09/10/2004 05:45:29
Originally by: EVE Newsletter
Europe
Cost/month* Total cost*
1-month-plan Ç 14.95 Ç 14.95
3-month-plan Ç 12.95 Ç 38.85
6-month-plan Ç 11.95 Ç 71.70
12-month-plan Ç 10.95 Ç 131.40
* VAT included
European Union E-commerce Directive 2002/38/EC, Regulation 792/2002 stipulates that all EU residents must pay a Value Added Tax (VAT) on electronically supplied services including online games. CCP is thus obligated to add a VAT on all payment transactions for customers living within the EU.
Outside Europe
Cost/month Total cost
1-month-plan $ 14.95 $ 14.95
3-month-plan $ 12.95 $ 38.85
6-month-plan $ 11.95 $ 71.70
12-month-plan $ 10.95 $ 131.40
The effective date of this price change is the 28th of October 2004
The 12 month subscription will be available on the 15. October 2004.
No change for people outside Europe.
They just are adding the 12 month plan.
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Aelita
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Posted - 2004.10.09 10:23:00 -
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Edited by: Aelita on 09/10/2004 10:27:47
Yes but for us Euro-slaves does change a lot. Tax will add another 19% to price. Damn not to mention that Ç <> $. Actually in $ you pay far less than in Ç. Actuall Ç:$ exchange rate is 1.23.
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Aelita
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Posted - 2004.10.09 10:23:00 -
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Edited by: Aelita on 09/10/2004 10:27:47
Yes but for us Euro-slaves does change a lot. Tax will add another 19% to price. Damn not to mention that Ç <> $. Actually in $ you pay far less than in Ç. Actuall Ç:$ exchange rate is 1.23.
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Baggam
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Posted - 2004.10.09 10:58:00 -
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Those outside of europe pay 19-24% less to play EVE!
So stop moaning Point Blank
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Baggam
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Posted - 2004.10.09 10:58:00 -
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Those outside of europe pay 19-24% less to play EVE!
So stop moaning Point Blank
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Tacnafarias
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Posted - 2004.10.09 11:07:00 -
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It does say VAT included for Europe, but true, that does not take into account the exhange rate.
I think it was very noble of CCP to keep the prices that the customer pays for the product the same over the board, even if they see less of it in the end from us Europeans. Unlike Sony, who, when the VAT on Electronic goods came in, just stuck that on top of their subscription price for Planetside.
So, IMO, kudos to CCP
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Tacnafarias
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Posted - 2004.10.09 11:07:00 -
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It does say VAT included for Europe, but true, that does not take into account the exhange rate.
I think it was very noble of CCP to keep the prices that the customer pays for the product the same over the board, even if they see less of it in the end from us Europeans. Unlike Sony, who, when the VAT on Electronic goods came in, just stuck that on top of their subscription price for Planetside.
So, IMO, kudos to CCP
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Tindel
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Posted - 2004.10.09 11:35:00 -
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EU is indeed retarded in this aspect
Y helo thar
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Tindel
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Posted - 2004.10.09 11:35:00 -
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EU is indeed retarded in this aspect
Y helo thar
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Excavation Svcs
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Posted - 2004.10.09 12:51:00 -
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Its because the oil price is going up,CCP have to pay for their cars!!!
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Excavation Svcs
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Posted - 2004.10.09 12:51:00 -
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Its because the oil price is going up,CCP have to pay for their cars!!!
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Starbrow
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Posted - 2004.10.09 12:57:00 -
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Quote:
Its because the oil price is going up,CCP have to pay for their cars!!!
CCP is in Iceland... They've got hydrogen cars and stuff. 
Personally I also think it is far out that Europe has to pay more for EVE than everybody else, even with the VAT. Besides, I also do not see why the prices should go up, since EVE has more players and I guess suscribers than ever. 
CCP response please?
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Starbrow
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Posted - 2004.10.09 12:57:00 -
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Quote:
Its because the oil price is going up,CCP have to pay for their cars!!!
CCP is in Iceland... They've got hydrogen cars and stuff.
Personally I also think it is far out that Europe has to pay more for EVE than everybody else, even with the VAT. Besides, I also do not see why the prices should go up, since EVE has more players and I guess suscribers than ever.
CCP response please?
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Lord Anubis
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Posted - 2004.10.09 13:23:00 -
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i think for us in the the uk its around 8-10 ú a month not to sure so dosnt seem that bad
You cant beat Death
But you can make the bastard work hard for it
wtb Jerek Zuomi's Insignia |
Lord Anubis
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Posted - 2004.10.09 13:23:00 -
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i think for us in the the uk its around 8-10 ú a month not to sure so dosnt seem that bad
You cant beat Death
But you can make the bastard work hard for it
wtb Jerek Zuomi's Insignia |
Barth3zzzNL
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Posted - 2004.10.09 13:51:00 -
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Edited by: Barth3zzzNL on 09/10/2004 15:09:40
We Euros have been paying more then Us players quite some time now...
Perhaps one day CCP will fix stuff and charge us the same amount of money...
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Barth3zzzNL
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Posted - 2004.10.09 13:51:00 -
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Edited by: Barth3zzzNL on 09/10/2004 15:09:40
We Euros have been paying more then Us players quite some time now...
Perhaps one day CCP will fix stuff and charge us the same amount of money...
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[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |
Ghoest
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Posted - 2004.10.09 14:50:00 -
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If Euros are going to pay smaller base rate because they have extra taxes then CCP should donate part of its proceeds from US players to the US govt.
We in the US pay our taxes different than you Euros and recieve different benifits from outr Govt.
All this is, is basiaccllly giving Euros a cheaper game than US players.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2004.10.09 14:50:00 -
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If Euros are going to pay smaller base rate because they have extra taxes then CCP should donate part of its proceeds from US players to the US govt.
We in the US pay our taxes different than you Euros and recieve different benifits from outr Govt.
All this is, is basiaccllly giving Euros a cheaper game than US players.
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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2004.10.09 15:39:00 -
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i dont see any price changes i still pay 20% more than ppl in us
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2004.10.09 15:39:00 -
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i dont see any price changes i still pay 20% more than ppl in us
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Lord Oa
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Posted - 2004.10.09 16:11:00 -
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why the **** are uk people paying these prices, we arent even in the eu yet =/ there is still a referendum on whether we want full membership or not.
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Lord Oa
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Posted - 2004.10.09 16:11:00 -
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why the **** are uk people paying these prices, we arent even in the eu yet =/ there is still a referendum on whether we want full membership or not.
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Myko
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Posted - 2004.10.09 16:54:00 -
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Edited by: Myko on 09/10/2004 16:57:08
the Uk is a fully fledged member of the EU, its the european currency we're not part of. The EU created a directive (immediate effect, affects everyone) that electronic services need to be taxed at local rate. As CCP can't/won't check what state each EU citizen is from they have to charge the highest, which is (AFAIK) the Swiss rate of around 19%
and before everyone complains that 'xxxx' other MMORPG hasnt increased their prices then they are probably either ignorant of the directive, breaking the law or absorbing the cost
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Myko
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Posted - 2004.10.09 16:54:00 -
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Edited by: Myko on 09/10/2004 16:57:08
the Uk is a fully fledged member of the EU, its the european currency we're not part of. The EU created a directive (immediate effect, affects everyone) that electronic services need to be taxed at local rate. As CCP can't/won't check what state each EU citizen is from they have to charge the highest, which is (AFAIK) the Swiss rate of around 19%
and before everyone complains that 'xxxx' other MMORPG hasnt increased their prices then they are probably either ignorant of the directive, breaking the law or absorbing the cost
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Karunel
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Posted - 2004.10.09 18:05:00 -
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Switzerland isn't part of the EU so I doubt that's where the 19% is coming from. Not sure though.
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Karunel
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Posted - 2004.10.09 18:05:00 -
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Switzerland isn't part of the EU so I doubt that's where the 19% is coming from. Not sure though.
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Archbishop
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Posted - 2004.10.09 18:10:00 -
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I know here in the US where I live there aren't any internet fees, taxes, VAT or anything like that.
I'm wondering if any EU people can list what extra "fees" and "taxes" and "VAT" you pay on internet transactions? I'm honestly curious.
The base cost for US and EU should be equal. The fees and taxes are on top of that and out of CCP's control but the "base" should be the same.
Is it?
Archbishop
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VISIT THE PIE HOMEPAGE & FORUMS
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Archbishop
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Posted - 2004.10.09 18:10:00 -
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I know here in the US where I live there aren't any internet fees, taxes, VAT or anything like that.
I'm wondering if any EU people can list what extra "fees" and "taxes" and "VAT" you pay on internet transactions? I'm honestly curious.
The base cost for US and EU should be equal. The fees and taxes are on top of that and out of CCP's control but the "base" should be the same.
Is it?
Archbishop
PIE CORPORATION
VISIT THE PIE HOMEPAGE & FORUMS
PIE INFORMATION CENTER |
Jericho Ronin
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Posted - 2004.10.09 18:23:00 -
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*snip*
CCP and every other vendor should charge a fair price for their product and that price should be uniform across the board. If you have have taxes and fees you have to pay on top of that that is something you should take up with your governments not CCP.
Removed beginning of a political discussion we don't want on the EVE boards.
-Jehova
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Jericho Ronin
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Posted - 2004.10.09 18:23:00 -
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*snip*
CCP and every other vendor should charge a fair price for their product and that price should be uniform across the board. If you have have taxes and fees you have to pay on top of that that is something you should take up with your governments not CCP.
Removed beginning of a political discussion we don't want on the EVE boards.
-Jehova
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Jehova
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Posted - 2004.10.09 18:27:00 -
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Please keep politics out of this discussion people.
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Jehova
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Posted - 2004.10.09 18:27:00 -
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Please keep politics out of this discussion people.
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