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Mosquito Miner	Posted - 2009.08.13 22:56:00 - [1] The Megathron, Doinix and Rokh can do everything the Hyperion can do, but better. 6 low slots with an armor rep bonus is serious weak sauce. I'm not saying the tank isn't decent, it's the ship taken as a whole that is disappointing. It's barely mediocre when flying solo, pointless in gangs. The problem is, I don't know how to fix it. The mega is already the ultimate blaster t1 battleship and can even do well at long range. The Rokh is a better sniper, and can outmine any BS, and the Domi can do just about everything else. What use is the Hyperion, slightly better damage vs. stationary targets? The other 3rd tier T1 battleships are pretty decent for gangs. Maybe swapping the armor rep bonus for a remote armor rep bonus would make sense. It still might not be as useful as an Armageddon with it's better resists and extra heavy drone, but at least non-noobs could come up with some interesting uses for it. Sure the Gallente have a glut of good ships, but there is no reason for anyone, ever, to use this ship over the other t1 bs as it stands right now.
Nito Musashi	Posted - 2009.08.13 23:02:00 - [2] yea but it looks 100x better than the domi and maybe 2x better than the mega. looks > usefulness. :P
Jin Entres Malevolent Intervention	Posted - 2009.08.13 23:14:00 - [3] I'd change the repper bonus to a resistance one, that's about it. ----------------------
Jita Burger	Posted - 2009.08.13 23:26:00 - [4] Originally by: Jin Entres I'd change the repper bonus to a resistance one, that's about it. This is not a horrible idea, but not a very Gallente one.
Mosquito Miner	Posted - 2009.08.13 23:34:00 - [5] Since the mega and domi have everything else "Gallente" covered, drones, blasters, armor rep...that leaves remote sensor damping. How about reworking the Hyperion completely, do 8 High, 7 Mid, 5 Low. Bonuses: 10% Bonus to Max Targeting Range and Sensor Dampening Effect per level. Give it an extra 2 Magnetometric sensor strength and slightly better locking time, and you got yourself something useful in gangs. Better trim down the drone bandwidth to 75 though.
Kismo	Posted - 2009.08.13 23:50:00 - [6] Originally by: Mosquito Miner Since the mega and domi have everything else "Gallente" covered, drones, blasters, armor rep...that leaves remote sensor damping. How about reworking the Hyperion completely, do 8 High, 7 Mid, 5 Low. Bonuses: 10% Bonus to Max Targeting Range and Sensor Dampening Effect per level. Give it an extra 2 Magnetometric sensor strength and slightly better locking time, and you got yourself something useful in gangs. Better trim down the drone bandwidth to 75 though. Please don't. The biggest problems with the hype are those that come from active tanking and blasters in general.
Ivan Malat	Posted - 2009.08.14 00:03:00 - [7] Shield tank it, good dps.
Rapiar Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2009.08.14 00:06:00 - [8] Originally by: Mosquito Miner Since the mega and domi have everything else "Gallente" covered, drones, blasters, armor rep...that leaves remote sensor damping. How about reworking the Hyperion completely, do 8 High, 7 Mid, 5 Low. Bonuses: 10% Bonus to Max Targeting Range and Sensor Dampening Effect per level. Give it an extra 2 Magnetometric sensor strength and slightly better locking time, and you got yourself something useful in gangs. Better trim down the drone bandwidth to 75 though. This isn't such a bad idea but would probably be overpowered. I can see people using this as a monster of a shield tanked blaster boat. This would also be breaking away from the tier 3 BS formula. Each tier 3 BS has one offensive bonus and one defensive bonus. Plus your giving it one more slot then its peers. While I agree that the Hype often falls a bit short of the Domi and Mega in traditional Gallente PVP roles, itÆs far from broken. The rep bonus is very nice for PVE and its slot layout and 8th turret make it a better sniping option than the Mega. Gallente arguably have the best BS line-up in the game. What more can you ask for? http://sigs.griefwatch.net/index.php?kb=RAPIAR&name=rapiar&template=icarus
A Ingus	Posted - 2009.08.14 00:18:00 - [9] Originally by: Mosquito Miner Since the mega and domi have everything else "Gallente" covered, drones, blasters, armor rep...that leaves remote sensor damping. How about reworking the Hyperion completely, do 8 High, 7 Mid, 5 Low. Bonuses: 10% Bonus to Max Targeting Range and Sensor Dampening Effect per level. Give it an extra 2 Magnetometric sensor strength and slightly better locking time, and you got yourself something useful in gangs. Better trim down the drone bandwidth to 75 though. This is an excellent idea. Would dampen the Caldari lock on ew BSs . However, 6 mid and 5 low would follow the formula of 11 lower slots of other BSs, and would not present the monster shield tank problem.
Omarvelous Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2009.08.14 00:19:00 - [10] Edited by: Omarvelous on 14/08/2009 00:20:27 I wouldn't complain if the Hyp had more power grid to fit bigger guns on a self-rep setup. I also wouldn't mind if the Gallente rep amount bonus would transfer to RR as well (it does with gang links why not the rep bonus). I don't want the slot layout changed. I like the extra versatility of an extra mid slot. Although if you did - it would be interesting if they dropped the 8th high slot for a 7th low slot (7-5-7 vs the current 6-5-8). Buff it if you must but I like the Hyp even in its current form. To be honest if you want buffing for a Gallente ship - ask for more speed and agility to the blaster boats - the current slowness makes mid ranged weapons a little too effective IMO. Important Internet Spaceship League Wants You

Max Tux	Posted - 2009.08.14 00:46:00 - [11] why do people think it needs more grid? this seems to fit and its all tech 2, 1000dps when overloaded and 1000 dps tank - with no implants [Hyperion, this fits....] Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Adaptive Nano Plating II Large Armor Repairer II Large Armor Repairer II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Auxiliary Nano Pump I Auxiliary Nano Pump I Nanobot Accelerator I Ogre II x4 just because its tier 3 it shouldn't necessarily give more DPS - it give tanking, look at the raven and Rohk, The raven can get a 1500DPS tech 2 fit, and the Rokh tops out about 1100 DPS
FievelGoesPostal Gallente The Giant Squid Corp.	Posted - 2009.08.14 00:57:00 - [12] The Hype is a beast solo. You can also buffer it decently and slap neutrons on it, but you really need slaves to make this effective. Otherwise, you need to slip into the fight while someone else is being primaried to lay down the hurt,
Mosquito Miner	Posted - 2009.08.14 04:02:00 - [13] The problem isn't that the Hyperion isn't a good BS, it's just that there is zero reason to use it over the other 3 hybrid boats for any conceivable use. If you fly one, you are basically never flying the best boat for whatever you use it for.
Alty McAltyalt	Posted - 2009.08.14 04:23:00 - [14] The Hype is fine even if it is only a decent 1v1 boat when implants aren't involved. Just accept that that's it's role, and move on to more pressing problems like the ones with ACs and Arties.
techzer0 Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.08.14 04:53:00 - [15] Originally by: Ivan Malat Shield tank it, good dps. I've seen it done, heh ------------ Originally by: Nexus Kinnon I could outgay you even without my pink tutu. >.>
Mosquito Miner	Posted - 2009.08.14 05:41:00 - [16] Originally by: Alty McAltyalt The Hype is fine even if it is only a decent 1v1 boat when implants aren't involved. Just accept that that's it's role, and move on to more pressing problems like the ones with ACs and Arties. Again, no one is saying it isn't ok when solo, that's not the point of the thread. The point is there is zero reason to use it over the domi/mega/rokh for -any- purpose. It's a cool looking ship though.
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.08.14 06:40:00 - [17] Originally by: Jin Entres I'd change the repper bonus to a resistance one, that's about it. I would go as far as change it for a RoF bonus --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Bibbleibble	Posted - 2009.08.14 07:36:00 - [18] Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Jin Entres I'd change the repper bonus to a resistance one, that's about it. I would go as far as change it for a RoF bonus That would give it 13 effective turrets. In other words, me like! ________________________________________________ For changes to Minmatar Battleships click here (Now with added summary!)
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.08.14 08:07:00 - [19] Originally by: Bibbleibble Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Jin Entres I'd change the repper bonus to a resistance one, that's about it. I would go as far as change it for a RoF bonus That would give it 13 effective turrets. In other words, me like! and it has the balancing factor of running out of cap faster than the road runner --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Bibbleibble	Posted - 2009.08.14 08:08:00 - [20] Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Bibbleibble Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Jin Entres I'd change the repper bonus to a resistance one, that's about it. I would go as far as change it for a RoF bonus That would give it 13 effective turrets. In other words, me like! and it has the balancing factor of running out of cap faster than the road runner When you can do upwards of 1600DPS, who needs cap? ________________________________________________ For changes to Minmatar Battleships click here (Now with added summary!)

The Djego Minmatar Hellequin Inc.	Posted - 2009.08.14 08:10:00 - [21] Edited by: The Djego on 14/08/2009 08:10:44 Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Jin Entres I'd change the repper bonus to a resistance one, that's about it. I would go as far as change it for a RoF bonus I would like this, puls swap a low to a med(do the same with the Brtuix). Would be nice to have 2 pure gank Blasterships that you can shield tank/buffer. On the other hand the Hype we got atm would be a lot better like this: 7/5/7, 2k more grid and 10 more CPU. So you have a lot more options with the extra low to offset the 1 lost gun or you can tank it without beeing forced to fit electrons. ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank! Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
The Djego Minmatar Hellequin Inc.	Posted - 2009.08.14 08:16:00 - [22] Originally by: Bibbleibble When you can do upwards of 1600DPS, who needs cap? Well if you out of cap you can¦t do 1600 DPS, since well you are out of cap. ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank! Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
Bibbleibble	Posted - 2009.08.14 08:20:00 - [23] Originally by: The Djego Originally by: Bibbleibble When you can do upwards of 1600DPS, who needs cap? Well if you out of cap you can¦t do 1600 DPS, since well you are out of cap. Well, you have about 7 minutes of firing your guns. At 1600 DPS, thats 720000 damage dealt, and if you're flying a blaster boat, you should have a cap injector anyway. ________________________________________________ For changes to Minmatar Battleships click here (Now with added summary!)
The Djego Minmatar Hellequin Inc.	Posted - 2009.08.14 09:13:00 - [24] Originally by: Bibbleibble Originally by: The Djego Originally by: Bibbleibble When you can do upwards of 1600DPS, who needs cap? Well if you out of cap you can¦t do 1600 DPS, since well you are out of cap. Well, you have about 7 minutes of firing your guns. At 1600 DPS, thats 720000 damage dealt, and if you're flying a blaster boat, you should have a cap injector anyway. I was only pointing out that you need the cap since you can¦t do the damage without it. Plain and simple. Also I would remind anybody that a Blastership also needs to spend a lot of cap for moving itself around so in general PVP you will have some cap issues even with a cap booster way faster than after 7 minutes in general. ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank! Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.08.14 21:01:00 - [25] Edited by: Grimpak on 14/08/2009 21:02:15 Originally by: The Djego Originally by: Bibbleibble Originally by: The Djego Originally by: Bibbleibble When you can do upwards of 1600DPS, who needs cap? Well if you out of cap you can¦t do 1600 DPS, since well you are out of cap. Well, you have about 7 minutes of firing your guns. At 1600 DPS, thats 720000 damage dealt, and if you're flying a blaster boat, you should have a cap injector anyway. I was only pointing out that you need the cap since you can¦t do the damage without it. Plain and simple. Also I would remind anybody that a Blastership also needs to spend a lot of cap for moving itself around so in general PVP you will have some cap issues even with a cap booster way faster than after 7 minutes in general. thus the balancing factor of slapping both dmg + RoF bonuses in a blaster ship so yeah you got 1600dps, but you'll need to do it really fast or you'll be left dry just before the fun starts. sure you get cap charges, but a ship with a weapon that consumes so much cap, that uses the same cap to move arround (and quite alot), you'll be running out of charges in an instant's notice. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
bff Jill	Posted - 2009.08.14 21:34:00 - [26] It looks funny i think they should just remove it gallente don't need a tier 3 battleship anyway.
Aranis Nax Minmatar Seraphim Blades	Posted - 2009.08.14 22:00:00 - [27] Originally by: Grimpak Edited by: Grimpak on 14/08/2009 21:02:15 Originally by: The Djego Originally by: Bibbleibble ... I was only pointing out that you need the cap since you can¦t do the damage without it. Plain and simple. Also I would remind anybody that a Blastership also needs to spend a lot of cap for moving itself around so in general PVP you will have some cap issues even with a cap booster way faster than after 7 minutes in general. thus the balancing factor of slapping both dmg + RoF bonuses in a blaster ship so yeah you got 1600dps, but you'll need to do it really fast or you'll be left dry just before the fun starts. sure you get cap charges, but a ship with a weapon that consumes so much cap, that uses the same cap to move arround (and quite alot), you'll be running out of charges in an instant's notice. Let's save rate of fire bonuses on blasters for faction ships, shall we? /me imagines Serpentis Dominix with 25% damage, 25% rate of fire and 50% drone damage
Footoo Rama Gallente Caldari Illuminati	Posted - 2009.08.14 22:16:00 - [28] This is a good question... and I have been thinking about it for awhile... The hype is just that hype... sure it is a great BB, but the cost and argueably minor improvement over the mega as a BB make it worthless. Why shell out that much more esp in pvp where the rep bonus is not as effective. Since Caldari have a dedicated ECM boat... Why not make it a RR dedicated BS? Sure this gets close to logistic ship range, but the rokh is better then all other ecm boats out there. ------- "Because the Dominix is the Chuck Norris of Eve!"
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.08.15 00:56:00 - [29] Originally by: Aranis Nax Originally by: Grimpak Edited by: Grimpak on 14/08/2009 21:02:15 Originally by: The Djego Originally by: Bibbleibble ... I was only pointing out that you need the cap since you can¦t do the damage without it. Plain and simple. Also I would remind anybody that a Blastership also needs to spend a lot of cap for moving itself around so in general PVP you will have some cap issues even with a cap booster way faster than after 7 minutes in general. thus the balancing factor of slapping both dmg + RoF bonuses in a blaster ship so yeah you got 1600dps, but you'll need to do it really fast or you'll be left dry just before the fun starts. sure you get cap charges, but a ship with a weapon that consumes so much cap, that uses the same cap to move arround (and quite alot), you'll be running out of charges in an instant's notice. Let's save rate of fire bonuses on blasters for faction ships, shall we? /me imagines Serpentis Dominix with 25% damage, 25% rate of fire and 50% drone damage let's not actually --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Lusian	Posted - 2009.08.15 03:12:00 - [30] I sometimes wonder if the Hyperion is worth the time as well. Its reping bonus just consumes pretty much all the cap unlike where it is needed and thats in the turrets. I have seen friendly duels in my alliance and the hyperion has performed admirably in 1v1 no doubt. Once the cap is gone ...... well tahts just it only the Raven... maybe the raven can last. But even then, it comes down to skills and what you have fitted and pray that you make the right choice when the time comes.

Erika Bronz Gallente The Wyld Hunt Saints Amongst Sinners	Posted - 2009.08.15 05:05:00 - [31] Caldari is for tank, Gallente is for gank. Remove the crappy active tank bonus from all Gallente ships. Give ROF instead, at least on the Brutix and Hyperion. If there absolutely needs to be an active tank bonus on Gallente ships, give it to the drone boats, in my opinion. With a ROF bonus the Hyperion might even drop a highslot and gain a lowslot.
Tulisin Dragonflame	Posted - 2009.08.15 12:10:00 - [32] Edited by: Tulisin Dragonflame on 15/08/2009 12:11:28 Edited by: Tulisin Dragonflame on 15/08/2009 12:10:28 Give it 125 drone capacity for starters. No excuse for the most massive subcapital Gallente ship being a poor drone carrier.
Seishi Maru The Black Dawn Gang	Posted - 2009.08.15 12:49:00 - [33] Originally by: Erika Bronz Caldari is for tank, Gallente is for gank. Remove the crappy active tank bonus from all Gallente ships. Give ROF instead, at least on the Brutix and Hyperion. If there absolutely needs to be an active tank bonus on Gallente ships, give it to the drone boats, in my opinion. With a ROF bonus the Hyperion might even drop a highslot and gain a lowslot. Well with an EXTRA rof bonus you mean? That would make it incredbly overpowered in fact. Hyperion just needs more fittings. Also ALL active tankign bonus of both gallente and minmatar shoudl be revided. They are patheticaly inferior to resist ones. If they were made 7.5% repair/boost PLUS 7.5% extra HP then they woudl be ALMOST ok.
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.08.15 14:00:00 - [34] Edited by: Grimpak on 15/08/2009 14:01:58 Originally by: Seishi Maru Originally by: Erika Bronz Caldari is for tank, Gallente is for gank. Remove the crappy active tank bonus from all Gallente ships. Give ROF instead, at least on the Brutix and Hyperion. If there absolutely needs to be an active tank bonus on Gallente ships, give it to the drone boats, in my opinion. With a ROF bonus the Hyperion might even drop a highslot and gain a lowslot. Well with an EXTRA rof bonus you mean? That would make it incredbly overpowered in fact. Hyperion just needs more fittings. Also ALL active tankign bonus of both gallente and minmatar shoudl be revided. They are patheticaly inferior to resist ones. If they were made 7.5% repair/boost PLUS 7.5% extra HP then they woudl be ALMOST ok. overpowered for 2 minutes if you don't have cap charges, or probably 10 minutes if you have. and I can even say that the tempest, even with a dual damage bonus still rather sucks monkey balls. RoF bonus makes ships do more DPS than a straight out damage bonus, but there's a reason why you see them mostly applied to non-cap consuming weapons: cap consumption goes to the roof aswell. as it is today, blaster ships walk on the edge of the blade. They don't do much more damage than pulses, which in turn have a range advantage of over 300%, together with the fact that blaster ships eat as much cap as ammo. truth to be told, going for that bonus requires testing first to see how it handles, and how powerful can the ship become, but, you're applying more damage AND cap stress to a weapon configuration that is already stressed in cap. honestly, hyperion should've had the RoF bonus back then when they introduced. as for the boost bonus on the maelstrom? it was projected to be a 10% shield HP bonus instead boost bonus, and considering the fleet profile of the maelstrom, there were people (me included) asking for the ship to actually have a 5%dmg instead a 5% RoF, making it having a 5%dmg + 10% shield HP pr. lvl. but people whined that "it's a tier3 BS, it should do moar damage!!11one" anyways, I digress. hyperion with stats as it is today, minus armor repping bonus, plus RoF bonus. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
FievelGoesPostal Gallente The Giant Squid Corp.	Posted - 2009.08.15 14:52:00 - [35] Forget the RoF bonus. If you are gonna remove the rep bonus, add one or two more low slots for the extra buffer and maybe a resistance bonus. It doesnt need a RoF bonus as if you remove the rep bonus, it will be buffered and can fit Neutron's and will be dishing out anywhere from 1100-1400 dps
Lisento Slaven The Drekla Consortium	Posted - 2009.08.15 15:43:00 - [36] Why not just boost the rep amount so that it actually tanks better? Right now it doesn't exactly tank enough to be better then the buffer tanks for pvp. Only bad part is that buffing rep amount also buffs PVE fits. --- Put in space whales!
Bibbleibble	Posted - 2009.08.15 17:46:00 - [37] Originally by: Lisento Slaven Why not just boost the rep amount so that it actually tanks better? Right now it doesn't exactly tank enough to be better then the buffer tanks for pvp. Only bad part is that buffing rep amount also buffs PVE fits. Boost the overheat bonus. That keeps PVE balance (mostly) the same, whilst making PVP active tanks better. ________________________________________________ For changes to Minmatar Battleships click here (Now with added summary!)
Harotak THE FINAL STAND The Final Stand.	Posted - 2009.08.15 22:01:00 - [38] The hype has niche roles that it excells at. The mega and domi can fill any other roll perfectly. Other races like minmatar have HUGE holes in their battleship lineup that need to be fixed. This is coming from a pilot that flys the hyperion allmost exclusively.
Seishi Maru The Black Dawn Gang	Posted - 2009.08.15 23:55:00 - [39] Originally by: Grimpak Edited by: Grimpak on 15/08/2009 14:01:58 Originally by: Seishi Maru Originally by: Erika Bronz Caldari is for tank, Gallente is for gank. Remove the crappy active tank bonus from all Gallente ships. Give ROF instead, at least on the Brutix and Hyperion. If there absolutely needs to be an active tank bonus on Gallente ships, give it to the drone boats, in my opinion. With a ROF bonus the Hyperion might even drop a highslot and gain a lowslot. Well with an EXTRA rof bonus you mean? That would make it incredbly overpowered in fact. Hyperion just needs more fittings. Also ALL active tankign bonus of both gallente and minmatar shoudl be revided. They are patheticaly inferior to resist ones. If they were made 7.5% repair/boost PLUS 7.5% extra HP then they woudl be ALMOST ok. overpowered for 2 minutes if you don't have cap charges, or probably 10 minutes if you have. and I can even say that the tempest, even with a dual damage bonus still rather sucks monkey balls. RoF bonus makes ships do more DPS than a straight out damage bonus, but there's a reason why you see them mostly applied to non-cap consuming weapons: cap consumption goes to the roof aswell. as it is today, blaster ships walk on the edge of the blade. They don't do much more damage than pulses, which in turn have a range advantage of over 300%, together with the fact that blaster ships eat as much cap as ammo. truth to be told, going for that bonus requires testing first to see how it handles, and how powerful can the ship become, but, you're applying more damage AND cap stress to a weapon configuration that is already stressed in cap. honestly, hyperion should've had the RoF bonus back then when they introduced. as for the boost bonus on the maelstrom? it was projected to be a 10% shield HP bonus instead boost bonus, and considering the fleet profile of the maelstrom, there were people (me included) asking for the ship to actually have a 5%dmg instead a 5% RoF, making it having a 5%dmg + 10% shield HP pr. lvl. but people whined that "it's a tier3 BS, it should do moar damage!!11one" anyways, I digress. hyperion with stats as it is today, minus armor repping bonus, plus RoF bonus. ok sure.. then give maelstrom a 7.5% damage bonus in place of its shield boost bonus.. by your logic that woudl be very balanced. Sicne it woudl be overpowered for exactly 90 secodns until the clip of the arties end....
Xing Fey	Posted - 2009.08.16 00:00:00 - [40] Make rep amount bonuses also affect incoming emote reps.

Mosquito Miner	Posted - 2009.08.16 04:18:00 - [41] ROF bonus is pointless, the Mega and Domi already have Massive DPS, we need to find a way to make the Hyperion good for something the Megathron and Dominix don't already do. Consider the remote sensor dampening idea, how cool would it be to have heavy ew + some decent guns?
Lusian	Posted - 2009.08.16 09:19:00 - [42] Originally by: Mosquito Miner ROF bonus is pointless, the Mega and Domi already have Massive DPS, we need to find a way to make the Hyperion good for something the Megathron and Dominix don't already do. Consider the remote sensor dampening idea, how cool would it be to have heavy ew + some decent guns? You have a point. But the problem is taht Efficiency is not a battleships strong point, at least from what I have seen. Unless I am mistken then call me on it. The hyperion has only 1 attribute and that is to tank till it runs out of cap. With a heavy nosx2 maybe it will last long enough for help to arrive. But in the end you can only hope that you picked an easy enough target. Originally by: Harotak The hype has niche roles that it excells at. The mega and domi can fill any other roll perfectly. Other races like minmatar have HUGE holes in their battleship lineup that need to be fixed. This is coming from a pilot that flys the hyperion allmost exclusively. Thats kinda interesting, many piots wont fly it exclusively. I build them for the isk and for defence alone. Although I would like to take it in roaming gangs I personally don't have the hybrid skills to get the maximum damage output from it. Being that said I could divert my tank enough to supply my reps to just a little bit more then going all out dps and reping. Ultimately the reping bonus on the hyperion makes it a suefull ship but the Myrmidon and Brutix does a much more efficient job of the same attribute in my opinion. It sahould have been given a different attreibute instead of reping. Something hat the other tier 1 and 2 battleships currently couldn't excell at like hyperion should have if it were given a second chance.
Seven Six	Posted - 2009.08.17 13:11:00 - [43] Edited by: Seven Six on 17/08/2009 13:11:11 The main problem is that its designed as an active tanking ship and it only has 6 lows - why give it a bonus that if used to its best potential gimps the rest of the setup? Also this thing has garbage cap stability - needs to mwd close to be of use - ouch there goes all my cap AND im injecting. Though i must say amazing looking ship and I like flying them even if they arent the best!
fmercury NibbleTek	Posted - 2009.08.17 13:21:00 - [44] Edited by: fmercury on 17/08/2009 13:21:46 Hyperion is fine. Good, even. Use it like it was meant to be used and you'll be surprised at what it can do. Also exile boosters are your friends. And fit 2 heavy cap booster IIs.
Cpt Cosmic	Posted - 2009.08.17 13:24:00 - [45] I agree boost projectiles and tempest
kyrv	Posted - 2009.08.17 13:36:00 - [46] 150% bonus to damage and weld the turrets to the struture so it aligns in tracking job done
Chr0nosX Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2009.08.17 14:07:00 - [47] Hyp is a good ship - leave it alone, only thing I don't like is large blasters tracking without a tracking bonus like from the mega. Use electrons, dual rep tank and 2 heavy cap boosters.


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