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Cresol Red
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Posted - 2009.08.21 10:04:00 -
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 Originally by: Clansworth
In the computer world, ^2 and ¦ ARE the same thing. The first is only used because earlier computer systems didn't have a character for ¦ or ¦, and there is still no ¦ or ¦ key on the keyboards... (ALT+0178 == ¦ and ALT+0179 == ¦)
Back to the OP though, you are correct 1km¦ (one cubic kilometer) is NOT the same thing as 1k m¦ (one thousand cubic meters)... Of course, there is nothing remotely correct in using the second notation anyways, the only PROPER ways to numerically indicate one thousand cubic meters, are 1000m¦, or 1x10¦m¦... 'k' is only supposed to be used to modify units, NOT numbers.
All that said, I have NEVER seen this cause any confusion in this game, and therefore, your ranting comes off as you just being a math *****... good trolling though.
Thank you for the keyboard shortcuts for ¦ and ¦. I know them now, but they are a ***** to use on a laptop without a numeric keypad.
Secondly, you mention the computer world and then state that 'k' is only supposed to be used to modify units. The computer world has used it, (often inconsistently) to represent 1000 or 1024 for as far back as I remember. If you have ever been to a business meeting or read a registered prospectus you would also have seen it on countless "graphs". In any case, I am not addressing "the correct way" to use it, but the way it is actually used.
As for being a math *****, why is it *****like to understand maths? Harsh criticism for my offence I would have thought. I actually do remember being confused, albeit briefly, by it when I first started Eve and a corpmate laughed at the size of my hauler (a badger I think) and quoted his own cargo capacity in km^3.
And finally to trolling - I have made a true statement with a full explanation on a topic that is for some reason interesting to people - with over 2000 views and over 50 posts. It is also obviously on a topic that it is worthwhile to addressing, judging by the torrent of evidence of misunderstanding that has obscured my original simple point. If I ranted, I obviously didn't do it enough.
If instead you meant that I was being well trolled, then I admit that I suspect it, but am powerless to resist.
If you were instead commenting on your own performance I hang my head defeated.
Cresol.....
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Clansworth
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Posted - 2009.08.21 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Cresol Red
Thank you for the keyboard shortcuts for ¦ and ¦. I know them now, but they are a ***** to use on a laptop without a numeric keypad.
Secondly, you mention the computer world and then state that 'k' is only supposed to be used to modify units. The computer world has used it, (often inconsistently) to represent 1000 or 1024 for as far back as I remember. If you have ever been to a business meeting or read a registered prospectus you would also have seen it on countless "graphs". In any case, I am not addressing "the correct way" to use it, but the way it is actually used.
Acutally, even in the computer world, they are, in fact, unit modifiers, in that they are used as kB (kiloByte).
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Hoo Is
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Posted - 2009.08.21 17:48:00 -
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Edited by: Hoo Is on 21/08/2009 17:48:27
metric system is fail... but not as fail as OP who doesn't realize people are sayin 13k rather than writing out 13,000
Edit: Even better... page 3 sniper in an epic nerd thread
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Propheos
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Posted - 2009.08.21 21:28:00 -
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Volume of a 1 km^3 cube = 1,000 m x 1,000 m x 1,000 m
Actually, your math is wrong.
1 km^3 does not equal 1,000 m x 1,000 m x 1,000 m
1,000 m x 1,000 m x 1,000 m is, as you so eloquently put it, equals 1,000,000,000 m^3
The cube root of 1 km^3 is 10m.
So, a space of 1 km^3 equals a space 10m long by 10m wide by 10m tall.
The actual cube root of 13km^3 is 23.513346877207574895000163399569
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Ukucia
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.08.21 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Rene Sauntier
Edited by: Rene Sauntier on 21/08/2009 07:26:51
Edited by: Rene Sauntier on 21/08/2009 07:26:16
somebody on the first page horribly mentioned Imperial Units...
I wasn't aware any nation used Imperial units for volume... not since 1960...
The windward coast, Myanmar, and The 13 colonies don't count as countries :p
love
Since you left it out of your disclaimer, I'm going to have to point out that Belize uses Imperial units.
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Propheos
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Posted - 2009.08.21 21:51:00 -
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A point of note:
It would be safe to say that:
13,000 m^3 is not the same as 13,000^3
The second pointing to:
13k x 13k x 13k = 2197000000000
While the first points to a unit of measurement.
13,000 m^2 identifies a surface that can contain 13,000 units measured 1m wide by 1m long.
where as
13,000 m^3 identifies an area that can contain 13,000 unites measured 1m wide by 1m long by 1m high.
That is to say a room 20m wide by 50m long by 13m high will hold the same volume of (stuff) as a room 13m wide by 50m long by 20m high.
Try not to confuse square and cubic units of measurement with X to the power of Y.
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NoNah
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Posted - 2009.08.21 21:59:00 -
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So let me get this right. 1m = 1'000'000 right?
So 1m * 1m = 1'000'000 * 1'000'000 = 1'000'000'000'000 ?
hence 1m^2 should be equal to 1'000'000'000'000 ?
and 1m^3 would be equal to(since it's a volume) 1'000'000'000'000m¦ right?
What if you have 1m cubic meters? How much is that in m¦? If I'm not mistaken(after 16 years of math studies(if you include elementary school ^^) that should be 1m cubic meters / 1'000'000 = 0.0000001m¦ cubic meters right?
Parrots, commence!
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MiltGyver
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Posted - 2009.08.21 22:29:00 -
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lol @ this entire thread..
my couple cents here: m2 can also be used when the sides of an area aren't equal.. in which case it wouldn't be the same as m2 when used as a power
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Propheos
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Posted - 2009.08.21 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: NoNah
So let me get this right. 1m = 1'000'000 right?
So 1m * 1m = 1'000'000 * 1'000'000 = 1'000'000'000'000 ?
hence 1m^2 should be equal to 1'000'000'000'000 ?
and 1m^3 would be equal to(since it's a volume) 1'000'000'000'000m¦ right?
What if you have 1m cubic meters? How much is that in m¦? If I'm not mistaken(after 16 years of math studies(if you include elementary school ^^) that should be 1m cubic meters / 1'000'000 = 0.0000001m¦ cubic meters right?
If I recall correctly:
m by itself is meters
m prefixing another type of measurement is mili or 0.001, eg. mm being milimeter
M by itself is Million
M prefixing another type of measurement is Mega or 1,000,000
So the m commonly used above would be meters. And adding the context of Eve would more likely be so.
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Brodde Dim
Hyper-Nova
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Posted - 2009.08.21 23:42:00 -
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Using my mspaint black belt skills to try and help.
The circle at the bottom is supposed to illustrate magnification of a cube that is too small to be represented by a single pixel.
Feel free to substitute any m3 for m^3, and m2 for m^2 in the picture if you like it better.
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lucifers widow
3rd Kador lancers
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Posted - 2009.08.22 12:20:00 -
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Korrhos
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.08.22 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: Propheos
If I recall correctly:
m by itself is meters
m prefixing another type of measurement is mili or 0.001, eg. mm being milimeter
M by itself is Million
M prefixing another type of measurement is Mega or 1,000,000
So the m commonly used above would be meters. And adding the context of Eve would more likely be so.
Indeed.
Maybe we should start a discussion on the difference between "100m isk" and "100M isk" 
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NoNah
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Posted - 2009.08.22 14:17:00 -
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God this thread made my day =)
Parrots, commence!
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Clansworth
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Posted - 2009.08.22 20:08:00 -
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Actually, in some fields (energy mostly.. such as refineries and natural gas) M is a prefix for thousand... MM is a prefix for million..
15MMBTU/hr = 15,000,000 BTU/Hr.
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Ukucia
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.08.22 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Clansworth
Actually, in some fields (energy mostly.. such as refineries and natural gas) M is a prefix for thousand... MM is a prefix for million..
15MMBTU/hr = 15,000,000 BTU/Hr.
Well, if you want to bring other things into this, in Chemistry "M" is a measure of concentration. 1M = 1 mole/liter. 1 mole = 6.022 * 10^23 molecules or atoms
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Jordon Spikes
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Posted - 2009.08.23 23:02:00 -
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this conversation for some reason make me think of paper wide ruled and college ruled.
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