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Omarvelous
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Posted - 2009.08.18 01:51:00 -
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Damage Control II EANM II (or faction - not sure if its worth it) ANP II (or corpii c-type) Medium Armor Repairer II 3x Heat Sink II
Y-T8 Overcharged 10MN MWD Warp Disruptor II (or a faction one under 50 mil) Medium Electrochemical Cap Booster
5x Focused Medium Pulse Laser II (Scorch)
2x Energy Locus Coordinator I 1x Energy Metastasis Adjuster I
5x Warrior II/Hobgonlin II
Orbit at ~20km and pew pew with ~478 dps.
Thoughts?
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Omarvelous
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Posted - 2009.08.18 01:57:00 -
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Post Patch Idea:
Thanks to cheaper rigs/faction ships....
Damage Control II 2x ANP II Medium Armor Rep II 3x Heat Sink II
Y-T8 10MN MWD Warp Disruptor II Medium Electrochemical Cap Booster I
5x Heavy Pulse Laser II (Scorch)
3x Ancillary Current Router I
5x Light Combat Drones
A little less tank - but 537 dps with scorch and hobgoblin II's @ 23+5km.
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Deva Blackfire
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.18 02:24:00 -
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5x focused + scorch / small neut mwd/disruptor/small injector 1600mm/3x heat sink/dc/eanm/anp 2x trimark/1x ACR 5x hobs
478dps at 20km 547dps at 7km
12000armor, lowest resist 60% (explo). 48k EHP. Add slave set + akemon for hilarious hitpoints.
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Omarvelous
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Posted - 2009.08.18 02:45:00 -
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Originally by: Deva Blackfire 5x focused + scorch / small neut mwd/disruptor/small injector 1600mm/3x heat sink/dc/eanm/anp 2x trimark/1x ACR 5x hobs
478dps at 20km 547dps at 7km
12000armor, lowest resist 60% (explo). 48k EHP. Add slave set + akemon for hilarious hitpoints.
My thoughts on the ship was:
If I want to go with buffer - I'd fly a Harbinger - it has more capacity for tank (1600 + 3x trimarks).
I figure - if I'm flying a cruiser over the BC - I may as well use the agility and speed advantage. Hence the rep over the plate. I would stay at ~20km and use superior speed to stay out of harms way.
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Wreyn Sevet
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2009.08.18 02:55:00 -
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I'm not sure one medium armor repairer is sufficient tank for a cruiser with T1 resists. I definitely understand why you wouldn't want to plate it, but you should be able to squeeze in an 800mm plate, trimarks, and heavy pulse and still get much greater agility than a Harbinger.
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ALex Vega
Caldari Genesis Rising
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Posted - 2009.08.18 02:59:00 -
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Edited by: ALex Vega on 18/08/2009 03:01:40 [Omen Navy Issue, Cruisers] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Warp Disruptor II Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 25 10MN Afterburner II
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Small Energy Neutralizer II /offline
Auxiliary Nano Pump I Auxiliary Nano Pump I Auxiliary Nano Pump I
5x Hobgoblin II
484 dps with AN Multi 545 HEAT will tank 253 dps 318 HEAT
Pretty mean against other cruisers in the duels ive gotten in, not much luck finding cruisers in lowsec though
Can tank gateguns for long enough to kill industrials, dessies and frigs and scoop the loot
Use it every now and then
Edit: Those numbers are with my skills, not with All V's
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Omarvelous
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Posted - 2009.08.18 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: ALex Vega Edited by: ALex Vega on 18/08/2009 03:01:40 [Omen Navy Issue, Cruisers] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Warp Disruptor II Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 25 10MN Afterburner II
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Small Energy Neutralizer II /offline
Auxiliary Nano Pump I Auxiliary Nano Pump I Auxiliary Nano Pump I
5x Hobgoblin II
484 dps with AN Multi 545 HEAT will tank 253 dps 318 HEAT
Pretty mean against other cruisers in the duels ive gotten in, not much luck finding cruisers in lowsec though
Can tank gateguns for long enough to kill industrials, dessies and frigs and scoop the loot
Use it every now and then
Edit: Those numbers are with my skills, not with All V's
I feel like people will just get away from a ship with no MWD and no web.
Also - why not use 2x nano accelerators and 1x aux nano pump for max active rep efficiency?
I went with the laser rigs on the FMP to get their range to match up with the disruptor range better.
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SuiJuris
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Posted - 2009.08.18 20:29:00 -
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The Mar II tank is a lie.
[Omen Navy Issue, New Setup 1] Tracking Enhancer II Adaptive Nano Plating II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 400 Warp Disruptor II
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Polycarbon Engine Housing I Polycarbon Engine Housing I Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Warrior II x5
With Max skills it goes a little over 1800 MS which should be fast enough to kite almost all cruisers, definitely all BC's, and anything with a AB fit. --- It's like my mom always said... "I knew I should of drowned that one." |

ALex Vega
Caldari Genesis Rising
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Posted - 2009.08.18 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: Omarvelous
Originally by: ALex Vega Edited by: ALex Vega on 18/08/2009 03:01:40 [Omen Navy Issue, Cruisers] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Warp Disruptor II Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 25 10MN Afterburner II
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Small Energy Neutralizer II /offline
Auxiliary Nano Pump I Auxiliary Nano Pump I Auxiliary Nano Pump I
5x Hobgoblin II
484 dps with AN Multi 545 HEAT will tank 253 dps 318 HEAT
Pretty mean against other cruisers in the duels ive gotten in, not much luck finding cruisers in lowsec though
Can tank gateguns for long enough to kill industrials, dessies and frigs and scoop the loot
Use it every now and then
Edit: Those numbers are with my skills, not with All V's
I feel like people will just get away from a ship with no MWD and no web.
Also - why not use 2x nano accelerators and 1x aux nano pump for max active rep efficiency?
I went with the laser rigs on the FMP to get their range to match up with the disruptor range better.
Truth be told ive only ever run into one ship with a MWD in lowsec, was a vaga. everything else i seem to find either has no prop mod at all or is an AB, BUT thats probably because im never in 0.0
As for the 3 aux nanos, its just what ive used, havent looked at a fit with nanos
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2009.08.18 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: ALex Vega Truth be told ive only ever run into one ship with a MWD in lowsec, was a vaga.
where in the world do you fly?  __________________________________
Originally by: CCP Whisper Boo hoo. Cry some more.
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Omarvelous
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Posted - 2009.08.19 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Terianna Eri
Originally by: ALex Vega Truth be told ive only ever run into one ship with a MWD in lowsec, was a vaga.
where in the world do you fly? 
That's what I was thinking. Maybe I should go there to pad up the killboard. 
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TimMc
Gallente Brutal Deliverance Novus Auctorita
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Posted - 2009.08.19 18:54:00 -
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Edited by: TimMc on 19/08/2009 18:56:17 [Omen Navy Issue, DPS] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II True Sansha Adaptive Nano Plating Damage Control II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Faint Warp Disruptor I Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M [empty high slot]
Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I
Hobgoblin II x5
Maybe?
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Aralieus
Amarr Traumark Logistics
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Posted - 2009.08.19 19:13:00 -
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This looks like a pretty solid fit to me:
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Lexa Hellfury
Incura
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Posted - 2009.08.19 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: ALex Vega Truth be told ive only ever run into one ship with a MWD in lowsec
You need to get out more.
Originally by: RedSplat The Forum moderation Software known as Mitnal became self aware. CCP had no choice but to shut it down.
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2009.08.19 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Omarvelous
Originally by: Terianna Eri
Originally by: ALex Vega Truth be told ive only ever run into one ship with a MWD in lowsec, was a vaga.
where in the world do you fly? 
That's what I was thinking. Maybe I should go there to pad up the killboard. 
I too would like to visit this wonderful magical land. 
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Omarvelous
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Posted - 2009.08.19 21:38:00 -
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Why are you guys suggesting plate or trimark tanks?
If I want gank and buffer I'll fly a plated+trimark Harbinger - it will do more dps and take way more damage.
I'm trying to take the advantage of a cruiser sized ship over a battlecruiser - speed and agility. Both of which get nerfed by armor buffer tanks.
I'm not under the illusion that a single MAR will provide enough tank - that's why I would try to stay out of web/scram range - to lower incoming DPS. I'm basically using the MAR to mitigate some incoming damage and to repair between fights - I do this and still maintain the cruiser class agility+speed advantage.
Sure a plated trimarks Omen Navy issue will have more tank than my MAR setup - but then again I may as well fly a Harbinger.
I want a speedy and agile ganky boat.
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Veshta Yoshida
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.08.19 22:10:00 -
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If I get my AB Slicer into scramble range I'll show you where it falls short ..
You need a neutralizer; small or medium, either will do. A single AB frigate with more than 100-120dps will tear you apart, it just need to kill 3 warriors and the remaining two can be tanked with little effort.
If you lack fittings you might look into using a small booster. This is provided that you aim to pulse the MWD and Rep when needed, if you rely on them running a lot the medium booster is required.
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Omarvelous
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Posted - 2009.08.19 22:33:00 -
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Edited by: Omarvelous on 19/08/2009 22:34:44
Originally by: Veshta Yoshida If I get my AB Slicer into scramble range I'll show you where it falls short ..
You need a neutralizer; small or medium, either will do. A single AB frigate with more than 100-120dps will tear you apart, it just need to kill 3 warriors and the remaining two can be tanked with little effort.
If you lack fittings you might look into using a small booster. This is provided that you aim to pulse the MWD and Rep when needed, if you rely on them running a lot the medium booster is required.
That's a big IF - how fast does your AB Slicer go?
Why is a plated setup better than a MAR setup vs your Slicer? Either setup cant fit a web so its equally screwed vs tackler frigs.
I don't plan on this being a solo pvp ship that engages everything in sight. I could come up with a scenario for any ship fit that would doom it - giving one example of a bad situatino for a ship fit doesn't mean it sucks.
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