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Slave 2739FKZ
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:46:00 -
[181]
Pick two:
a)FPS/RTS
b)Console
c)Win
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Robert Hudson
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:47:00 -
[182]
 Originally by: Bestofworst Worstofbest
It was either that or fight with / against goons.
Another question - how would anything be different in 514? The two game are integrated right? So aren't we all still fighting with/against the Goons?
War... war never changes.
I'm going to play Fallout3. At least there heads are guaranteed to explode.
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Rage of Inferno
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:08:00 -
[183]
Freakin awesome, ccp im still lovin you.
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Andre Vauban
Beacon of Light
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:11:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Zirator
I know it's to early to tell but I really hope that this new game will only affect FW sov mechanics and won't be used to affect 0.0 space.
Sorry but forcing EVE players to mix with the console crowd to get things sorted out in 0.0 isn't the solution to the currently broken sov mechanics. And I'm not to keen on seeing 0.0 alliances starting to demand of their players that they have acces to the new games.
I hope this is true. Nuke FW as we know it (ie bunkers) and DUST514 totally dictates FW sov via planetary control. EVE FW becomes pew-pew plus missions to support DUST514. By this I mean please transport this DUST514 landing party to system X, planet 1. Only once that mission is complete, can DUST514 players choose to attack new systems.
Something like this would be "cool". This is cool because FW sov doesn't matter, so EVE players don't really care who has sov as long as FW continues. DUST514 players belong to the empire factions. Something like this impacting 0.0 would suck as sov in 0.0 actually matters and you don't want EVE players relying on DUST514 players or vice versa to accomplish their goals.
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Breagh Alba
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:25:00 -
[185]
Originally by: ropnes
Originally by: Breagh Alba
1 FPS's do indeed work with a controler,I can't use a mouse and keyboard interface to save myself,I don't however blame it for my own suckage just a lack of familiarity
Depends on what you mean by 'work'
FPSs on consoles aren't comparable to PC FPSes. People may enjoy them for what they are but they're very different even though they look similar. Popular PC FPSes like Counter Strike simply would never work on a console because they're ABOUT aiming
by work I mean I can shoot the nasty bad guy accurately enough to kill him whilst enjoying myself do I need any more?
no
counterstrike is what 10 yrs old now?,thats from the time the PS1 was in it's prime consoles have moved on a fair bit since then y'know
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Tira Mitzu
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:29:00 -
[186]
Allright the possibilities give all of us reason to go "oh what if we could..."
supply people, have more trade, drop people on planets, **** em up by killing them, interfering with spaceships, and the list goes on just more specific with some real nice ideas
Tho CCP, how many people are activly out there in 0.0? for how many % their game time now depends on how a 13 year old will preform?
oh wait yeah lets have an entire alliance make sure everybody has an Xbox or a PS3, just so they're sure they can still do what they want, I'm sorry CCP, I'm a humble teacher, I'm not going to buy an Xbox or a PS3 or any other stupid console to spend my weekends on making sure I still have a supply line when I wake up..
Walking in stations was announced how long ago? and instead a FPS gets released wich has effect on how the lets say daily 200k people? get to spend their time..
I'm sorry CCP but you've been greedy and bad, sure Sov could have used soem changes, but unless Dust goes live on PC and your current Eve subscription allows you to play Dust aswell, you're attracting 2 different types of people
Spaceships =/= FPS Eve has been going on for 6years and a bit now? well what are the odds [random noob clan](filled with 14 year olds who all got their xbox for their good grades) decides to go, Oh look lol, these ****ups in this Delve region seem pretty big lets **** them up!
not making a good example of goons, but at the moment they're known everywhere, what would happen if not everybody is able to support 2 games just to make sure they have their fun in 1 of them?
I like FPS games I really do, but I wont pay for another game just so I can keep doing what I do in eve, sure whine all you want, not everybody gets their weekly lunchmoney from their parents you know
*not happy dessert*
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rosinERsundt
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:16:00 -
[187]
the affect on sov is pathethic and sad=( /me quits
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Izztyrr Maemtor
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:18:00 -
[188]
Originally by: rosinERsundt
the affect on sov is pathethic and sad=( /me quits
can i haz ur stuff?
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Amarrian ArchAngel
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:18:00 -
[189]
Oh no, the end is nigh! 
Damn, people wait for some more info before claiming EVE is now dead...lol
Common sense would say that DUST's sov mechanics would probably assist more the backstory and the wars between the factions, CCP would never change it so 3rd parties could dictate 0.0 sov, would be suicidal and they know it...
AA
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Bunnyslayer
Minmatar
Order Of The Sentinel
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:19:00 -
[190]
Ok my 2 isk...
The basic concept is brilliant. I've wanted Eve to add avatars, interactive planets and fps game play for a very long time.
Allowing sov to be partly based on planetary warfare is nice as well. I'd be there as a hired merc fighting for a 0.0 planet.
Where this falls short is... Eve players don't get to do this.
In order for me, a guy who has been playing Eve since '03, to play this part of Eve, I have to buy a new game, a gaming system and (I assume) another subscription.
If something is added to a pc game, it should damned well be a pc addition. If this were an expansion to Eve, even a paid expansion, I'd be first in line at Gamestop to pick it up. If this were a pc game and I had to pay a combined sub, like 20-25 a month to play both, I'd gladly do it.
But it is bad form, and even a slight slap in the face to loyal Eve players to add something to the game and not give us a chance to access with our current/slightly upgraded hardware.
Now, this isn't an "emorage, I'm quitting over this" thing. This is an "I'm really disappointed in CCP over this one" post. So much potential flushed down the toilet. I can just hope that they attempt to port this to pc at some point before it flops.
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The Bane of All Things Fuzzy
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Oghma Grianainech
Minmatar
Peces Of Eighte
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:23:00 -
[191]
I am truely annoyed that CCP thinks just because they gave their employees in Shanghai a XBOX 360 for last christmas, they now assume everyone in the world has one and is willing to buy one if they don't and fork out another god knows how many bloody Euros for Dust and pay another addition sub.....
Great way to show us once again you don't give a hoot about us.
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Edgar Cayce
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:24:00 -
[192]
please ccp dont do it for console
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LegendaryFrog
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:24:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Bunnyslayer
But it is bad form, and even a slight slap in the face to loyal Eve players to add something to the game and not give us a chance to access with our current/slightly upgraded hardware.
Xbox 360 - $200 or $300 (depending on which version you get)
That essentially falls into the same price realm as a "slight hardware upgrade" for a pc.
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Bunnyslayer
Minmatar
Order Of The Sentinel
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:27:00 -
[194]
Edited by: Bunnyslayer on 18/08/2009 17:28:06
Originally by: LegendaryFrog
Originally by: Bunnyslayer
But it is bad form, and even a slight slap in the face to loyal Eve players to add something to the game and not give us a chance to access with our current/slightly upgraded hardware.
Xbox 360 - $200 or $300 (depending on which version you get)
That essentially falls into the same price realm as a "slight hardware upgrade" for a pc.
Not really. Most of the time I have simply needed more ram. $80.00 max. And a vast majority of the time, I've not needed to upgrade anything for an expansion.
edit: cause I can't type today.
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The Bane of All Things Fuzzy
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Vee Zee
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:28:00 -
[195]
FPS on consoles are horrible :(
If they release a PC version I'll be interested. If not, I won't even bother even though I own a PS3.
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Kyra Felann
Gallente
Noctis Fleet Technologies
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Posted - 2009.08.18 18:07:00 -
[196]
I would be surprised if there was never going to be a PC version. They're probably just concentrating on the console versions, since sadly, that's where FPSes are the most popular (despite the gimped controls)--thus more income for CCP.
It would be silly for them to not release a PC version, really, since it's building on a setting from a PC game, and a lot of Eve players probably want to try out Dust 514. Even if the console versions come out first, I hope we do eventually get a version fully suited for PC (not just a crappy port).
The thing is, they're going for a different audience. This isn't another way to get money out of Eve players--this is a way to get people who like FPSes on consoles interested in the Eve universe.
It's a great idea, really. Some people prefer ground combat, some people prefer space combat. It allows both to contribute to the same war without trying to shoehorn FPS mechanics into Eve, for instance.
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ropnes
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Posted - 2009.08.18 18:11:00 -
[197]
Originally by: Breagh Alba
counterstrike is what 10 yrs old now?,thats from the time the PS1 was in it's prime consoles have moved on a fair bit since then y'know
And how old is EVE? Good games are good regardless of how old they are
Close to 150k ppl are playing CS right now (not counting source).
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Gunner Dark
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Posted - 2009.08.18 18:16:00 -
[198]
Console gamers wont touch it with a barge pole , run over to the PS3 or 360 official boards and have a search for discussions about pay to play mmos.
They dont want it, they wont pay for it, and they sure as hell wont leave the likes of GOW/COD/Halo to play it for more than a couple of weeks. CCP has forgotten their demographic and gone chasing a cash cow .
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Veldya
Guristari Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2009.08.18 18:16:00 -
[199]
This would be a cool concept only if you can bombard the console gamers from orbit, where do I purchase my carpet bombs? :P
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente
Azteca Transportation Unlimited
Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2009.08.18 18:19:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Veldya
This would be a cool concept only if you can bombard the console gamers from orbit, where do I purchase my carpet bombs? :P
You won't need to. A single 1000mm (Dreadnought) Railgun anti-matter shell has a yield of around 87 megatonnes, those probably won't have the range, iron or tungsten might, and a hyperkinetic impact from such a large projectile is going to leave one hell of a crater.
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Toksyuryel
Gallente
Domestic Tentacle Supply
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Posted - 2009.08.18 18:35:00 -
[201]
Originally by: Meiyang Lee
A single 1000mm (Dreadnought) Railgun anti-matter shell has a yield of around 87 megatonnes, those probably won't have the range, iron or tungsten might, and a hyperkinetic impact from such a large projectile is going to leave one hell of a crater.
I would do this if only for the opportunity to **** off the SoE even more. Killing console players by the thousands is a nice bonus though. |
Typhado3
Minmatar
Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium
Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.08.18 18:43:00 -
[202]
hate to say but I gotta add this to the fire.
We are gonna be paying people to fight for us. I really don't like the idea of paying other people that we might not even know to play a game that isn't even eve. These dusties better have something better than "I got a killing spree" to give back to me to make this worthwhile.
At least I have my experience with eve to comfort me, after all this will be released SOON tm.
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Just a crazy inventor
ccp fix mining agent missions % pls
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Brutor Bludd
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Posted - 2009.08.18 18:47:00 -
[203]
So can I ransom these guys and orbital bomb them for ****s and giggles ?
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Ephemeron
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.08.18 18:48:00 -
[204]
All your planet are belong to Korea
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Dramaticus
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.18 18:52:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Schalac
This could completely wipe out the goons existence on EVE. Think about it. The goons generally suck at twitch based combat games and EVE is the only MMO where they were able to get a foothold into actually doing something, and even this came at the discretion of someone completely out of their alliance. So if I bring all my buddies on XBL to play this game and we completely destroy all the worthless goons every time they step foot onto our battlefield they will never get high sovereignty in Delve. This could be awesome. I hope the gameplay is on par with other shooters that are prepped to launch in the coming months so this actually matters.
yase
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Veldya
Guristari Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2009.08.18 18:52:00 -
[206]
Originally by: Meiyang Lee
Originally by: Veldya
This would be a cool concept only if you can bombard the console gamers from orbit, where do I purchase my carpet bombs? :P
You won't need to. A single 1000mm (Dreadnought) Railgun anti-matter shell has a yield of around 87 megatonnes, those probably won't have the range, iron or tungsten might, and a hyperkinetic impact from such a large projectile is going to leave one hell of a crater.
That sounds too sudden...
I want to hit local chat with, "I love the smell of napalm in the morning."
Then just carpet bomb with nice melty goodness.
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Rotnac
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.18 18:55:00 -
[207]
Edited by: Rotnac on 18/08/2009 18:56:41
The tie-in COULD be neat. But this is CCP, and I have little faith in them doing it right the first time. If this becomes the singular, primary method of sov control, I will quit this game, as it would make the internet spaceships fully pointless. Because honestly, if ground fighting for planetary control is the way you control systems, constellations, regions, etc, then the spaceships presumably turn into nothing but a logistics network. Granted, I imagine CCP sees this as bad, but they don't always seem to avoid bad things when making their games.
Of course, if I can nuke people from orbit, I might be kinda happy. Especially if I can get 100s of console tards to scream in frustration as I repeatedly kill them with a dread in orbit. But somehow I doubt CCP will create an avenue for that level of grief play against their new console friends, if only because they know they know that we take every opportunity to grief the **** out of everyone.
Not gonna lie though, if this gets onto PCs, its possible I'd play it even if it causes me to quit Eve, simply because I like shooting people via the Internets.
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Muhammed Jafar
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Posted - 2009.08.18 18:56:00 -
[208]
Originally by: Ephemeron
All your planet are belong to Korea
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egot istical
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Posted - 2009.08.18 19:02:00 -
[209]
Thousands of console playing casual gamers screwing up the eve?! hell no, make it a seperate game, eve is good the way it is. we don't need some 14 yr old or drunken fratboy x-box player helping to dictate control of systems in eve, we can do that fine ourselves. i wouldn't trust the issue of sov to someone who doesn't rly give a **** about the whole eve universe & just wants to find an a different fps because they're fed up of halo or CoD.
console gamers, rot in hell.
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Mors Magne
M. Corp
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.08.18 19:07:00 -
[210]
CCP should put the resources into making ambulation better for EVE.
EVE is THE game.
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