Originally by: Galtakii

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Latest: It's an fps that allows players to fight on and control planets in the eve universe. It's for consoles.

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it's a massively multiplayer game that 'connects' to the EVE universe. Dust will become an 'input' into who controls planets in EVE

EVE players fight in space... Dust 514 players fight on the ground... both feed together to dictate control of systems in EVE universe.

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Originally by: Galtakii

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Edited by: Galtakii on 18/08/2009 10:05:51
It's for consoles.

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Originally by: Valtis Thermalion

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I wonder if you can commence planetary bombardment on eve while people are fighting on the planet

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Originally by: Galtakii

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Edited by: Galtakii on 18/08/2009 10:05:51
Latest: It's an fps that allows players to fight on and control planets in the eve universe. It's for consoles.

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Originally by: Captain Politics

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EVE players fight in space... Dust 514 players fight on the ground... both feed together to dictate control of systems in EVE universe.

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Originally by: Shade Millith

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CONSOLE only is a horrible idea.

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Originally by: Shade Millith

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Originally by: Galtakii

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Edited by: Galtakii on 18/08/2009 10:05:51
Latest: It's an fps that allows players to fight on and control planets in the eve universe. It's for consoles.

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Originally by: Captain Politics

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EVE players fight in space... Dust 514 players fight on the ground... both feed together to dictate control of systems in EVE universe.

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I said it multiple times in Alliance, "F that"

Suddenly making a whole part of EVE that effects sov or anything drastic CONSOLE only is a horrible idea.

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Originally by: General Newbold

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where is all this info coming from? especially about the eve feed

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Originally by: Ivanna Nuke

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I can see this causing a tonne of issues in regard to Alliance Sov and game mechanics

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Originally by: Gnulpie

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On the other hand, the idea behind that is absolutely stunning. Think about it!

You have a real UNIVERSE which is affected by many different inputs. One input is the Eve client, another input is the Dust514 client, another input this, another input that. The whole dynamic of the Universe is drastically increased!

I think no one ever dared such an bold step forward. Amazing and brilliant in my opinion - if the two clients would have enough interaction points within the Eve universe and wouldn't just share names and such but "real" things like industry, money etc.

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Originally by: Jacharian

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This sounds like a bad idea. I'm in.

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Originally by: Shadowsword

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Why a FPS for consoles only? You can't aim properly without a mouse.

But I like a lot hte idea of ground combat affecting events...

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Originally by: Shade Millith

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Originally by: Galtakii

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Edited by: Galtakii on 18/08/2009 10:05:51
Latest: It's an fps that allows players to fight on and control planets in the eve universe. It's for consoles.

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Originally by: Captain Politics

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EVE players fight in space... Dust 514 players fight on the ground... both feed together to dictate control of systems in EVE universe.

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I said it multiple times in Alliance, "F that"

Suddenly making a whole part of EVE that effects sov or anything drastic CONSOLE only is a horrible idea.

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Originally by: Shadowsword

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Why a FPS for consoles only? I can't aim properly without a mouse.

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Originally by: Chribba

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snipped from below:

it's a RTS/FPS MMO for consoles. Feeds into EVE.
EVE players fight in space... Dust 514 players fight on the ground... both feed together to dictate control of systems in EVE universe.

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Originally by: Monklon

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it's a massively multiplayer game that 'connects' to the EVE universe. Dust will become an 'input' into who controls planets in EVE

EVE players fight in space... Dust 514 players fight on the ground... both feed together to dictate control of systems in EVE universe.

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Unfortunately, initial reports are that it is console ONLY.

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Originally by: Monklon

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Edited by: Monklon on 18/08/2009 10:43:27
News article from Gamasutra just posted a few minutes ago regarding CCPs announcement:

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=24886

EDIT: Also Businesswire: http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20090818005242&newsLang=en

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In fact, when Dust 514 launches, the map of EVE, currently divined only by player structures owned in the PC game, will also take into account infantry successes and failures within the console game. Players in the PC MMO can "fund mercenaries and give them goals" in the console title.

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Originally by: Chribba

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Edited by: Chribba on 18/08/2009 10:12:29
Question is, does it has Veldspar?!

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Aya > Hostile tcf gang coming to h-pa
Deva Blackfire > ships?
Ralarina > Yes, in ships

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Originally by: Lumiere

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You guys are some serious gloom merchants. Do you always take news in life and imagine the worst possible outcome and dwell on it? Talk about downers...

This could be ridiculously cool, and is a very innovative idea. If they can tie the two titles together it could have crazy potential. Think of everything it could eventually add to the EVE universe. These devs are confident and know what makes their game good do you think they would add something that would be typical of SOE?

Just think of all of the good it could bring and not every possible bad outcome. Enjoy the game, and if it is bad then quit when you can't handle it. If it is good then eat cookies and reflect on how much time you wasted being gloomy bastards.

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Originally by: Deva Blackfire

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PS3? X360? both?

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Deva Blackfire

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PS3? X360? both?

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Well if it is for ps3 I guess i won't be a fussy about it but I would still rather have a pc client as I hate aiming with a controller.

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I played Killzone once on a playstation and as a pc gamer who played loads of FPS's it was a horrible experience.

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Originally by: Shade Millith

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Originally by: Lumiere

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You guys are some serious gloom merchants. Do you always take news in life and imagine the worst possible outcome and dwell on it? Talk about downers...

This could be ridiculously cool, and is a very innovative idea. If they can tie the two titles together it could have crazy potential. Think of everything it could eventually add to the EVE universe. These devs are confident and know what makes their game good do you think they would add something that would be typical of SOE?

Just think of all of the good it could bring and not every possible bad outcome. Enjoy the game, and if it is bad then quit when you can't handle it. If it is good then eat cookies and reflect on how much time you wasted being gloomy bastards.

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It is gloomy when there's word of CCP taking the BIGGEST part of 0.0, holding sov, and putting control of that OUT of the original game. Maybe people might get miffed.

Said people who play a PC game might get even MORE miffed when word is it's CONSOLE only.

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Originally by: Rodj Blake

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I imagine that if ground-based combat will be affecting the control of systems, then Eve players will also need to transport the Dust 514 players to the planet.

Could be interesting.

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Originally by: OwlManAtt

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It would make sense for it to be an Xbox title. CCP has a huge amount of DirectX talent...

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Originally by: Ivanna Nuke

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Do I read Sov Mechanic change there

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Originally by: Rodj Blake

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I imagine that if ground-based combat will be affecting the control of systems, then Eve players will also need to transport the Dust 514 players to the planet.

Could be interesting.

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"Instead of doing EVE Online for consoles," says Petursson, "we looked hard at what people want to do when they're playing in their living room as opposed to sitting in front of a PC. We thought of creating something specially for that experience, setting it in the EVE universe, and connecting it with EVE."

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Originally by: GA Cypherous

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Originally by: OwlManAtt

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It would make sense for it to be an Xbox title. CCP has a huge amount of DirectX talent...

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If its 360 only it will be fail, i'm doubting people will want to pay 2 subscriptions in order to be able to play the game all hail XBL :P

If its on PS3 and doesn't suck i might buy it, happy to offer beta testing if needed :)

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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Wow, people getting upset that console players can control planets. Like planets have ever meant anything.

And the Sov people, just take a look at FW space. Nobody cares too much about 0.0 conqurable space.

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Originally by: Zirator

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Edited by: Zirator on 18/08/2009 10:38:40

Originally by: Shadowsword

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Why a FPS for consoles only? You can't aim properly without a mouse.

But I like a lot hte idea of ground combat affecting events...

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truth to be found in this post :D

I played Killzone once on a playstation and as a pc gamer who played loads of FPS's it was a horrible experience.

The experience still gives me nightmares.

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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin

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You mouse-whiners do know that the PS3 sports a USB-port, and fully supports most (if not all) mice?

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Originally by: Ivanna Nuke

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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Wow, people getting upset that console players can control planets. Like planets have ever meant anything.

And the Sov people, just take a look at FW space. Nobody cares too much about 0.0 conqurable space.

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True even if they control a planet, it is not like they can launch titan ships into orbit, zero space should be pretty much as it always was.

I await more details on this.

( GF also said I can have a Xbox 360 )

*does happy dance*

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zero space should be pretty much as it always was.

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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin

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You mouse-whiners do know that the PS3 sports a USB-port, and fully supports most (if not all) mice?

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Originally by: Shade Millith

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Originally by: Ivanna Nuke

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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Wow, people getting upset that console players can control planets. Like planets have ever meant anything.

And the Sov people, just take a look at FW space. Nobody cares too much about 0.0 conqurable space.

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True even if they control a planet, it is not like they can launch titan ships into orbit, zero space should be pretty much as it always was.

I await more details on this.

( GF also said I can have a Xbox 360 )

*does happy dance*

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FW Sov is a joke.

0.0 Sov nets you control over stations, protects assets, lowers cost of fuel, permits JB networks, allows cyno jamming and cyno beacons.

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zero space should be pretty much as it always was.

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Tell that to BOB. When their sov suddenly vanished, everything fell like a house of cards. Sov means a hell of a lot in 0.0.

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Originally by: AnonyTerrorNinja

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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin

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You mouse-whiners do know that the PS3 sports a USB-port, and fully supports most (if not all) mice?

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You do know that's for use with the browser, and in general not for games, right?

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Originally by: Ivanna Nuke

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Originally by: Shade Millith

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Originally by: Ivanna Nuke

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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Wow, people getting upset that console players can control planets. Like planets have ever meant anything.

And the Sov people, just take a look at FW space. Nobody cares too much about 0.0 conqurable space.

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True even if they control a planet, it is not like they can launch titan ships into orbit, zero space should be pretty much as it always was.

I await more details on this.

( GF also said I can have a Xbox 360 )

*does happy dance*

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FW Sov is a joke.

0.0 Sov nets you control over stations, protects assets, lowers cost of fuel, permits JB networks, allows cyno jamming and cyno beacons.

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zero space should be pretty much as it always was.

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Tell that to BOB. When their sov suddenly vanished, everything fell like a house of cards. Sov means a hell of a lot in 0.0.

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Then CCP need to be very careful as I imagine 0-0 makes up a huge playerbase in EVE which would emorage quit if this affects Sov.

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Originally by: Tippia

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Edited by: Tippia on 18/08/2009 11:18:51

Originally by: AnonyTerrorNinja

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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin

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You mouse-whiners do know that the PS3 sports a USB-port, and fully supports most (if not all) mice?

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You do know that's for use with the browser, and in general not for games, right?

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àunless you add support for it in your game, which a few FPSes have done.

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Originally by: Valtis Thermalion

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I wonder if you can commence planetary bombardment on eve while people are fighting on the planet

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Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari

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F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said

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Originally by: Chribba

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Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows

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Originally by: F'nog

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Originally by: Valtis Thermalion

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I wonder if you can commence planetary bombardment on eve while people are fighting on the planet

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So I'm not the only one who thought about this. It would really settle that whole PC vs Console debate wouldn't it.

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Originally by: Gamasutra

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As for the title of the game, Petursson said that he wouldn't give away why the title was called Dust 514, but that very clever devotees of the existing EVE Online universe might be able to work things out.

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Originally by: F'nog

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Originally by: Valtis Thermalion

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I wonder if you can commence planetary bombardment on eve while people are fighting on the planet

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So I'm not the only one who thought about this. It would really settle that whole PC vs Console debate wouldn't it.

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Originally by: Schalac

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People aren't going to emo rage quit or they would of already done so considering how BoB was ousted from Delve. Or should of if they really care so much about sovereignty mechanics in EVE. "Hay guyz I clicks teh butonz and killz yrz of wrk lulz". Really. This happens and people are going to emo rage quit over a more dynamic mechanism for sovereignty? I doubt it.

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Originally by: Schalac

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People aren't going to emo rage quit or they would of already done so considering how BoB was ousted from Delve. Or should of if they really care so much about sovereignty mechanics in EVE. "Hay guyz I clicks teh butonz and killz yrz of wrk lulz". Really. This happens and people are going to emo rage quit over a more dynamic mechanism for sovereignty? I doubt it.

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People aren't going to emo rage quit or they would of already done so considering how BoB was ousted from Delve. Or should of if they really care so much about sovereignty mechanics in EVE.

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Originally by: Typhado3

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Originally by: Gamasutra

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As for the title of the game, Petursson said that he wouldn't give away why the title was called Dust 514, but that very clever devotees of the existing EVE Online universe might be able to work things out.

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Anyone able to solve this riddle? gas clouds sleeper floride stuff possibly to do with allowing cloning of land troops (how else to explain you dieing repetedly). could be reference to golden compass. anything happen on 5/14 that might explain it?


Also the more i think of it the more I want to play it. Thinking about all the cool guns and stuff I've read about in the backstory, they might just give us a few of them to play with.

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Schalac

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People aren't going to emo rage quit or they would of already done so considering how BoB was ousted from Delve. Or should of if they really care so much about sovereignty mechanics in EVE. "Hay guyz I clicks teh butonz and killz yrz of wrk lulz". Really. This happens and people are going to emo rage quit over a more dynamic mechanism for sovereignty? I doubt it.

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Errrm, what happened to bob was an isolated event that only effected bob. If this turns out to actually have an effect on 0.0 sov then everyone at once is going to be effected with nothing to do about it but pay for mercenaries in the console game to help keep your sov up. Instant and total emoragequit mentality with a perfect justification. Which is why the console game effecting the 0.0 sov game ain't gonna to happen.

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Originally by: Gamasutra

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As for the title of the game, Petursson said that he wouldn't give away why the title was called Dust 514, but that very clever devotees of the existing EVE Online universe might be able to work things out.

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Originally by: Schalac

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How can you even say that it only effected BoB? It can happen still to any alliance in the game right now. For whatever reason some one of power can completely destroy your work of years for no reason other than because they can. Yeah, good mechanic there to play with.

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Ivanna Nuke

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Do I read Sov Mechanic change there

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CCP wouldn't dare do that or it would be the biggest emoragequit loss of accounts in the history of mmo's. What I am figuring though is they will tie it in with fw sytems and the low sec planets will be the ones in play in the console game. Actually I could see some interesting things that could be done with the fw contested system process if it is tied into it somehow.

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Schalac

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How can you even say that it only effected BoB? It can happen still to any alliance in the game right now. For whatever reason some one of power can completely destroy your work of years for no reason other than because they can. Yeah, good mechanic there to play with.

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Because it only effected bob? Of course there is always the chance that it might happen to another alliance but after bobs harsh lesson I doubt it will be nearly as easy to pull off as everyone should be superparanoid now about access and also know to not ignore thier directors when they get all emo from lack of attention. That is a normal eve mechanic as trust is all that you have to protect you in this game.

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Originally by: AnonyTerrorNinja

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Curious - I haven't yet heard of any PS3 game that allows the use of a mouse...

Care to list a few for me? (you can mail them ingame if you don't want to list them here)

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Originally by: Schalac

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Schalac

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How can you even say that it only effected BoB? It can happen still to any alliance in the game right now. For whatever reason some one of power can completely destroy your work of years for no reason other than because they can. Yeah, good mechanic there to play with.

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Because it only effected bob? Of course there is always the chance that it might happen to another alliance but after bobs harsh lesson I doubt it will be nearly as easy to pull off as everyone should be superparanoid now about access and also know to not ignore thier directors when they get all emo from lack of attention. That is a normal eve mechanic as trust is all that you have to protect you in this game.

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And we can all trust everyone we meet in an online video game. There are two truths in life. Money is power and everyone has a price. I'll bet you right now there are inner workings to kill off a few alliances with ISK bribes.

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Originally by: Malcanis

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Ivanna Nuke

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Do I read Sov Mechanic change there

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CCP wouldn't dare do that or it would be the biggest emoragequit loss of accounts in the history of mmo's. What I am figuring though is they will tie it in with fw sytems and the low sec planets will be the ones in play in the console game. Actually I could see some interesting things that could be done with the fw contested system process if it is tied into it somehow.

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Yeah, I'm seeing this as FW, not 0.0

People need to hold off on the :RAGE: until we have confirmed details.

Regardless, it is a bold and innovative move by CCP. Props for that. Let's hope they can bring it off.

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Originally by: Shade Millith

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Originally by: Schalac

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People aren't going to emo rage quit or they would of already done so considering how BoB was ousted from Delve. Or should of if they really care so much about sovereignty mechanics in EVE. "Hay guyz I clicks teh butonz and killz yrz of wrk lulz". Really. This happens and people are going to emo rage quit over a more dynamic mechanism for sovereignty? I doubt it.

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When it takes control of sov away from the original game, original gaming system, and puts it on consoles? Yes, that's gonna rub people, including me, the wrong way.

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Originally by: Shade Millith

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My :RAGE: is coming from we've heard for months about these changes to Sov that are going to happen, I then hear about a new game (that's console only) that ties in with Sov.

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Originally by: Vector Aeon

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Okay, this does have the potential to screw up what some people believe to be vital sov mechanics in one way or another.

However, the absolutely earth-shattering step CCP could be taking, merging EVE with a futuristic combat MMO platform (thinking PlanetSide-like here)... well, as someone who has played a lot of EVE and a lot of FPS... this could be the greatest merge of gaming and game genres of all time.

My only gripe is @ the 'console only' bit... those two words guarantee the game will be dead in 5 years. That will need to be fixed, IMO. I can count on one hand how many still-active online shooters have come off consoles with fingers to spare. And, let's face it, an experimental title like this is unlikely to be the next Halo.

Don't crucially integrate EVE's slow-burning environment with the FPS console world of three-month half-lifes and rapid playerbase decay. Instead go with the Half-Life like PC FPS communities that refuse to die. People still play CS and PlanetSide as well as the Unreal games. Because, 10 years from now when PS3 and X360 are dead technology, and people are still upgrading and playing EVE on new boxes (hedging a bet this game will survive 10 more years, forgive me) that FPS integration means absolutely nothing.

I won't lie, I'm absolutely in love with this idea, but let's just tread with caution when dealing with console games and the gamers they produce- while the concept is incredible the playerbases are critical as well to success or failure- and hordes of raging 13-year-old XBL pubbies could do what many others have failed to do- make EVE unplayable.

TL:DR; Awesome potential, but console games burn out way too fast, integrating with slow-mo EVE is asking for instability in both game 'worlds'. Also consoles are fail.

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Originally by: Bonny Lee

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Dont know if this was posted but this is a trailer it seems
http://video.golem.de/games/2283/dust-514-ego-shooter-im-universum-von-eve-online-gamescom-2009.html

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Originally by: Gnulpie

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They killed their Vampire MMO. What remains if you kill Vampires? Dust!

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Bonny Lee

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Dont know if this was posted but this is a trailer it seems
http://video.golem.de/games/2283/dust-514-ego-shooter-im-universum-von-eve-online-gamescom-2009.html

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After going oooohhhh shiney at the game trailer skip to 3:10 and hear how the console players will directly effect 0.0 sov.

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Bonny Lee

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Dont know if this was posted but this is a trailer it seems
http://video.golem.de/games/2283/dust-514-ego-shooter-im-universum-von-eve-online-gamescom-2009.html

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After going oooohhhh shiney at the game trailer skip to 3:10 and hear how the console players will directly effect 0.0 sov.

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Bonny Lee

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Dont know if this was posted but this is a trailer it seems
http://video.golem.de/games/2283/dust-514-ego-shooter-im-universum-von-eve-online-gamescom-2009.html

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After going oooohhhh shiney at the game trailer skip to 3:10 and hear how the console players will directly effect 0.0 sov.

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Originally by: Malcanis

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I sure hope there will be a PC port for this. I have no problem with buy another game, but I draw the line at a console.

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Originally by: Meiyang Lee

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Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 18/08/2009 12:13:13

Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Bonny Lee

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Dont know if this was posted but this is a trailer it seems
http://video.golem.de/games/2283/dust-514-ego-shooter-im-universum-von-eve-online-gamescom-2009.html

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After going oooohhhh shiney at the game trailer skip to 3:10 and hear how the console players will directly effect 0.0 sov.

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If you listen carefully, he's saying it will be ONE of the input in sov (emphasis mine). So not the only input, just one of several.

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Originally by: Zeba

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Isn't that what I said? A direct influance that can only be made positive by hiring console players to fight against the ones you rival alliance hired to undermine your sov?

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Originally by: Zeba

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Hopefully there will be a pc client as its simple as can be to port over from the 360 to pc. Otherwise I'm not going to buy a 360 just for this game.

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Originally by: Heroldyn

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Originally by: Zeba

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Hopefully there will be a pc client as its simple as can be to port over from the 360 to pc. Otherwise I'm not going to buy a 360 just for this game.

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yah it may be simple to port, but then you still have crap console aiming. they should develop for pc and THEN port it to consoles.

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Originally by: Tippia

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Originally by: Zeba

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Isn't that what I said? A direct influance that can only be made positive by hiring console players to fight against the ones you rival alliance hired to undermine your sov?

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The question is, how much of an influence. How much is a planet worth? The same as a POS? More? What is the average ratio of Planets to possible POS placements in a system?

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Originally by: Shade Millith

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Originally by: Heroldyn

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Originally by: Zeba

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Hopefully there will be a pc client as its simple as can be to port over from the 360 to pc. Otherwise I'm not going to buy a 360 just for this game.

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yah it may be simple to port, but then you still have crap console aiming. they should develop for pc and THEN port it to consoles.

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That's the real kicker in the nads for me.

That they've decided to make it console only.

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Originally by: Bestofworst Worstofbest

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I think it wouldn't hurt to have it on both, but limiting it to people who have a certain console is terrible.

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Originally by: Zeba

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STILL DO WANT PC CLIENT THOUGH AND WILL NOT BUY PS3 COPY UNTIL IT IS CONFIRMED NO PC RELEASE!!!!

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Bestofworst Worstofbest

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I think it wouldn't hurt to have it on both, but limiting it to people who have a certain console is terrible.

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He does say 'consoles' in the plural so it will be 360/ps3 at least. Good for me as the ps3 has free online access.

*ahem*

STILL DO WANT PC CLIENT THOUGH AND WILL NOT BUY PS3 COPY UNTIL IT IS CONFIRMED NO PC RELEASE!!!!

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Originally by: Bestofworst Worstofbest

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Die PS3 user!

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Originally by: Zeba

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Originally by: Bestofworst Worstofbest

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Die PS3 user!

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Bite me. I use it as my living room internet terminal with some arcadey shooty games on it I got from the online store. And its my blu-ray player. Don't have any actual ps3 games for it though..

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Originally by: Vector Aeon

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Okay, this does have the potential to screw up what some people believe to be vital sov mechanics in one way or another.

However, the absolutely earth-shattering step CCP could be taking, merging EVE with a futuristic combat MMO platform (thinking PlanetSide-like here)... well, as someone who has played a lot of EVE and a lot of FPS... this could be the greatest merge of gaming and game genres of all time.

My only gripe is @ the 'console only' bit... those two words guarantee the game will be dead in 5 years. That will need to be fixed, IMO. I can count on one hand how many still-active online shooters have come off consoles with fingers to spare. And, let's face it, an experimental title like this is unlikely to be the next Halo.

Don't crucially integrate EVE's slow-burning environment with the FPS console world of three-month half-lifes and rapid playerbase decay. Instead go with the Half-Life like PC FPS communities that refuse to die. People still play CS and PlanetSide as well as the Unreal games. Because, 10 years from now when PS3 and X360 are dead technology, and people are still upgrading and playing EVE on new boxes (hedging a bet this game will survive 10 more years, forgive me) that FPS integration means absolutely nothing.

I won't lie, I'm absolutely in love with this idea, but let's just tread with caution when dealing with console games and the gamers they produce- while the concept is incredible the playerbases are critical as well to success or failure- and hordes of raging 13-year-old XBL pubbies could do what many others have failed to do- make EVE unplayable.

TL:DR; Awesome potential, but console games burn out way too fast, integrating with slow-mo EVE is asking for instability in both game 'worlds'. Also consoles are fail.

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Originally by: No Homo

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CONSOLES ARE FOR IDIOTS HUUUUUURRRGGGGHH

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Originally by: Vector Aeon

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Okay, this does have the potential to screw up what some people believe to be vital sov mechanics in one way or another.

However, the absolutely earth-shattering step CCP could be taking, merging EVE with a futuristic combat MMO platform (thinking PlanetSide-like here)... well, as someone who has played a lot of EVE and a lot of FPS... this could be the greatest merge of gaming and game genres of all time.

My only gripe is @ the 'console only' bit... those two words guarantee the game will be dead in 5 years. That will need to be fixed, IMO. I can count on one hand how many still-active online shooters have come off consoles with fingers to spare. And, let's face it, an experimental title like this is unlikely to be the next Halo.

Don't crucially integrate EVE's slow-burning environment with the FPS console world of three-month half-lifes and rapid playerbase decay. Instead go with the Half-Life like PC FPS communities that refuse to die. People still play CS and PlanetSide as well as the Unreal games. Because, 10 years from now when PS3 and X360 are dead technology, and people are still upgrading and playing EVE on new boxes (hedging a bet this game will survive 10 more years, forgive me) that FPS integration means absolutely nothing.

I won't lie, I'm absolutely in love with this idea, but let's just tread with caution when dealing with console games and the gamers they produce- while the concept is incredible the playerbases are critical as well to success or failure- and hordes of raging 13-year-old XBL pubbies could do what many others have failed to do- make EVE unplayable.

TL:DR; Awesome potential, but console games burn out way too fast, integrating with slow-mo EVE is asking for instability in both game 'worlds'. Also consoles are fail.

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Originally by: Zeba

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The 360 is easy for pc programmers to develop on as its just an un-upgradable x86 based machine.

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Originally by: Chryzopraz

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Originally by: Zeba

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The 360 is easy for pc programmers to develop on as its just an un-upgradable x86 based machine.

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No, it's not. Xbox360 is based on a PowerPC processor, not x86 one.
It's not compatible with PCs in any way!

Regards

Chryzopraz

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Originally by: Chryzopraz

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Originally by: Zeba

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The 360 is easy for pc programmers to develop on as its just an un-upgradable x86 based machine.

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No, it's not. Xbox360 is based on a PowerPC processor, not x86 one.
It's not compatible with PCs in any way!

Regards

Chryzopraz

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Originally by: Ivanna Nuke

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But does this fix the cowbell triangular circles floating in the giraffe nation of the pineapple people on the pingu bread carpets who ally to the potato kingdom of the alliance of turnips?

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Originally by: fuze

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Next to follow.
Eve Online Racing
Eve Online Sports
Eve Online Quiz
Eve Online Treasure hunter
Eve Online Dogfight

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Originally by: Hoo Is

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Never seen a patch for a console game... and we all know how Well CCP rolls out bug-less/balanced upgrades

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Originally by: Hoo Is

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Never seen a patch for a console game... and we all know how Well CCP rolls out bug-less/balanced upgrades

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Originally by: Hoo Is

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Never seen a patch for a console game... and we all know how Well CCP rolls out bug-less/balanced upgrades

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Originally by: Hoo Is

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Never seen a patch for a console game... and we all know how Well CCP rolls out bug-less/balanced upgrades

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Originally by: Hoo Is

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Never seen a patch for a console game... and we all know how Well CCP rolls out bug-less/balanced upgrades

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Originally by: Tippia

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Originally by: Zeba

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Isn't that what I said? A direct influance that can only be made positive by hiring console players to fight against the ones you rival alliance hired to undermine your sov?

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The question is, how much of an influence. How much is a planet worth? The same as a POS? More? What is the average ratio of Planets to possible POS placements in a system?

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Originally by: Tsumei Meyren

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There's a reason I play EVE, It's because the audience is a little more mature than that of other mmo's.

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Originally by: Tsumei Meyren

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I thoroughly dislike the part where they want EVE players and Dust players to socialize.

There's a reason I play EVE, It's because the audience is a little more mature than that of other mmo's.

Fail in my opinion, very big fail.

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Originally by: GodsWill

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Originally by: Tsumei Meyren

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I thoroughly dislike the part where they want EVE players and Dust players to socialize.

There's a reason I play EVE, It's because the audience is a little more mature than that of other mmo's.

Fail in my opinion, very big fail.

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Well.. They're mercenary grunts. You're a demi god. All you have to do is pay them and give them orders. If the 12-year old is rambling about how cruel his mother is, mute him or hire someone else.

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Originally by: Tsumei Meyren

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There's a reason I play EVE, It's because the audience is a little more mature than that of other mmo's.

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Originally by: GodsWill

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Originally by: Tsumei Meyren

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I thoroughly dislike the part where they want EVE players and Dust players to socialize.

There's a reason I play EVE, It's because the audience is a little more mature than that of other mmo's.

Fail in my opinion, very big fail.

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Well.. They're mercenary grunts. You're a demi god. All you have to do is pay them and give them orders. If the 12-year old is rambling about how cruel his mother is, mute him or hire someone else.

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Originally by: Thanasis Veggos

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AND KEEP NAGLFAR THE ONLY VERTICAL SHIP IN EVE

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Originally by: Thanasis Veggos

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AND KEEP NAGLFAR THE ONLY VERTICAL SHIP IN EVE

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Originally by: Haulerboi

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Originally by: Thanasis Veggos

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AND KEEP NAGLFAR THE ONLY VERTICAL SHIP IN EVE

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Myrmidon is vertical too

So now courier agents will start giving contracts for dust soldiers hauling?

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Originally by: Thanasis Veggos

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Hello everyone

This is what i dreamed about all the time for the entire part of my 30 some computergames experience years.
The difference is that i would like to see the ability as a capsuleer to take part of that new game.
What i would like to see though is a constant and consistand merge of the two worlds and game principles.

CCP.... Hilmar Torfi Nathan and the rest please invest the money we give you to new stuff members. Seek out and find those magicaly blessed progammers that make miracles happen. Hire them and merge this world. Take your time and make it for pc and console the like.
I do not mind console people to have eve accesss like others claim to have. If you make it solid and beutifull i see no reasson why every little bit of MMO wet dream would not jumb in to life. This can only happen from a team with vision. You showed us you are up to this task, so are we.

Now fix Eve mail, give us new interface's and make a dedicated hull for each game and not only copy paste hulls from other ships.

AND KEEP NAGLFAR THE ONLY VERTICAL SHIP IN EVE

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Originally by: Tsumei Meyren

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I thoroughly dislike the part where they want EVE players and Dust players to socialize.

There's a reason I play EVE, It's because the audience is a little more mature than that of other mmo's.

Fail in my opinion, very big fail.

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Originally by: Mikelangelus

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Go ahead CCP, make a great FPS for consoles, but please, please cut the idea of it having an impact on the MMO out!

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Originally by: P'uck

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You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.

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Originally by: Dryoghan

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well the only way i see it possible to have dust and eve coexist in the same universe and having dust as a console only game is to give players of both games some influence on the other

for example eve players can orbit war planets and send drones to it which they will control in fps/tps and will be able to fly over the battle and support their team mates from the skies while their main ship still orbits the planet and is vulnerable to attack

on the other hand eve players will be able to load dust players on to their ships and drop them on pos'es so that they will be able to board them and take control over them for their alliance/corp

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Originally by: Hurricane Carter

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Orbital bombardments to nuke the crap out of the DUST peeps or no show :D

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Originally by: Ruby Khann

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I love the idea of losing dyspro moons because a halo player gets a kill streak.

CCP is going to alienate most of their 0.0 players with this bs.

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Originally by: Ruby Khann

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I love the idea of losing dyspro moons because a halo player gets a kill streak.

CCP is going to alienate most of their 0.0 players with this bs.

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Originally by: Breagh Alba

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I'm currently playing Killzone 2 whilst having eve running,I imagine it will be a similar experiance when dust is release.

as a primarly console based gamer I feel CCP need to be a applauded for trying this,it will be a great achivement should they pull it off.cross system interactivity could be awsome.


seeing as you PC geeks appear to know nothing about modern consoles I will correct a few misconceptions.

1 FPS's do indeed work with a controler,I can't use a mouse and keyboard interface to save myself,I don't however blame it for my own suckage just a lack of familiarity

2 Console games get patched on a regular basis,why wait an extra week to release the game when you can rush it out and fill the users harddrive with "features" that should have been on the original disk.they ripped that idea of PC games,sorry

3 anyone who thinks the eve community is any more or less mature than anywhere else is lying to themselves,I come across just a big a percentage of asshat here as I do playing console games.


as a PS3 owner,I genuinely want to see a good mmo on my system if it's an eve based one then I will be very happy

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Originally by: Robert Hudson

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Edited by: Robert Hudson on 18/08/2009 15:31:22

So CCP has finally gone and abandoned the concept of genuine pod pilots and a future primarily focused on enhancing our space combat experience in order to give us the option to hide behind a rock while some complete jackass lobs grenades at us and lols/takes over the system while doing it.

Well done. Where can I send this congratulatory turd?

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Originally by: Bestofworst Worstofbest

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Originally by: Robert Hudson

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Edited by: Robert Hudson on 18/08/2009 15:31:22

So CCP has finally gone and abandoned the concept of genuine pod pilots and a future primarily focused on enhancing our space combat experience in order to give us the option to hide behind a rock while some complete jackass lobs grenades at us and lols/takes over the system while doing it.

Well done. Where can I send this congratulatory turd?

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It was either that or fight with / against goons.

Gee, I wish we stayed with the more civilized.

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Originally by: Robert Hudson

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Edited by: Robert Hudson on 18/08/2009 15:37:23

Originally by: Bestofworst Worstofbest

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Originally by: Robert Hudson

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Edited by: Robert Hudson on 18/08/2009 15:31:22

So CCP has finally gone and abandoned the concept of genuine pod pilots and a future primarily focused on enhancing our space combat experience in order to give us the option to hide behind a rock while some complete jackass lobs grenades at us and lols/takes over the system while doing it.

Well done. Where can I send this congratulatory turd?

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It was either that or fight with / against goons.

Gee, I wish we stayed with the more civilized.

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Don't gimme that crap. If it's not BoB, it's the Goons. If it's not the Goons, it's someone else.

"Hey there. Yes we showed you planetary flight combat demos, yes we promised you walking in stations, yes we said we would allow further customization of ships and optimization of battles... so here's a console and a handgun kid, have fun with that."

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Originally by: Bestofworst Worstofbest

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Originally by: Robert Hudson

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Edited by: Robert Hudson on 18/08/2009 15:37:23

Originally by: Bestofworst Worstofbest

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Originally by: Robert Hudson

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Edited by: Robert Hudson on 18/08/2009 15:31:22

So CCP has finally gone and abandoned the concept of genuine pod pilots and a future primarily focused on enhancing our space combat experience in order to give us the option to hide behind a rock while some complete jackass lobs grenades at us and lols/takes over the system while doing it.

Well done. Where can I send this congratulatory turd?

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It was either that or fight with / against goons.

Gee, I wish we stayed with the more civilized.

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Don't gimme that crap. If it's not BoB, it's the Goons. If it's not the Goons, it's someone else.

"Hey there. Yes we showed you planetary flight combat demos, yes we promised you walking in stations, yes we said we would allow further customization of ships and optimization of battles... so here's a console and a handgun kid, have fun with that."

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Yes, because we know exactly what is going on. And just because CCP decides to release something else first, you are gonna condemn it.

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Originally by: Breagh Alba

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1 FPS's do indeed work with a controler,I can't use a mouse and keyboard interface to save myself,I don't however blame it for my own suckage just a lack of familiarity

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Originally by: Bestofworst Worstofbest

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It was either that or fight with / against goons.

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Originally by: Zirator

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I know it's to early to tell but I really hope that this new game will only affect FW sov mechanics and won't be used to affect 0.0 space.

Sorry but forcing EVE players to mix with the console crowd to get things sorted out in 0.0 isn't the solution to the currently broken sov mechanics. And I'm not to keen on seeing 0.0 alliances starting to demand of their players that they have acces to the new games.

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Originally by: ropnes

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Originally by: Breagh Alba

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1 FPS's do indeed work with a controler,I can't use a mouse and keyboard interface to save myself,I don't however blame it for my own suckage just a lack of familiarity

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Depends on what you mean by 'work'
FPSs on consoles aren't comparable to PC FPSes. People may enjoy them for what they are but they're very different even though they look similar. Popular PC FPSes like Counter Strike simply would never work on a console because they're ABOUT aiming

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Originally by: rosinERsundt

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the affect on sov is pathethic and sad=( /me quits

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Originally by: Bunnyslayer

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But it is bad form, and even a slight slap in the face to loyal Eve players to add something to the game and not give us a chance to access with our current/slightly upgraded hardware.

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Originally by: LegendaryFrog

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Originally by: Bunnyslayer

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But it is bad form, and even a slight slap in the face to loyal Eve players to add something to the game and not give us a chance to access with our current/slightly upgraded hardware.

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Xbox 360 - $200 or $300 (depending on which version you get)

That essentially falls into the same price realm as a "slight hardware upgrade" for a pc.

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Originally by: Breagh Alba

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counterstrike is what 10 yrs old now?,thats from the time the PS1 was in it's prime consoles have moved on a fair bit since then y'know

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Originally by: Veldya

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This would be a cool concept only if you can bombard the console gamers from orbit, where do I purchase my carpet bombs? :P

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Originally by: Meiyang Lee

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A single 1000mm (Dreadnought) Railgun anti-matter shell has a yield of around 87 megatonnes, those probably won't have the range, iron or tungsten might, and a hyperkinetic impact from such a large projectile is going to leave one hell of a crater.

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Originally by: Schalac

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This could completely wipe out the goons existence on EVE. Think about it. The goons generally suck at twitch based combat games and EVE is the only MMO where they were able to get a foothold into actually doing something, and even this came at the discretion of someone completely out of their alliance. So if I bring all my buddies on XBL to play this game and we completely destroy all the worthless goons every time they step foot onto our battlefield they will never get high sovereignty in Delve. This could be awesome. I hope the gameplay is on par with other shooters that are prepped to launch in the coming months so this actually matters.

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Originally by: Meiyang Lee

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Originally by: Veldya

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This would be a cool concept only if you can bombard the console gamers from orbit, where do I purchase my carpet bombs? :P

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You won't need to. A single 1000mm (Dreadnought) Railgun anti-matter shell has a yield of around 87 megatonnes, those probably won't have the range, iron or tungsten might, and a hyperkinetic impact from such a large projectile is going to leave one hell of a crater.

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Originally by: Ephemeron

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All your planet are belong to Korea

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Originally by: Dansel

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If they pull it up without ****ing up EVE in general it MIGHT get awesome

i like fps games xD

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Originally by: Veldya

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That sounds too sudden...

I want to hit local chat with, "I love the smell of napalm in the morning."

Then just carpet bomb with nice melty goodness.

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Originally by: Schalac

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This could completely wipe out the goons existence on EVE. Think about it. The goons generally suck at twitch based combat games and EVE is the only MMO where they were able to get a foothold into actually doing something, and even this came at the discretion of someone completely out of their alliance. So if I bring all my buddies on XBL to play this game and we completely destroy all the worthless goons every time they step foot onto our battlefield they will never get high sovereignty in Delve. This could be awesome. I hope the gameplay is on par with other shooters that are prepped to launch in the coming months so this actually matters.

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Originally by: Xianbei

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im sure a bunch of twitch happy FPS players will love dying every few seconds to being nuked from orbit by a bunch of arrogant pod pilots. you can imagine how fast they would stop playing.

dream on

the interaction between the two games will be extremely minimal

the sov portion will probably be so minimal it will be pointless to even use it

/bookmark this post, I will be right

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