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Waci
Southern Cross Empire Flying Dangerous
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:02:00 -
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Could you people tell me how do you know exactly how CCP is going to do it? Only thing I've found is that it will have some kind of effect. Did they say somewhere that it's going be required to get sov? Link before random bull**** please? -------------------------------------------------
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Morphisat
Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Waci Could you people tell me how do you know exactly how CCP is going to do it? Only thing I've found is that it will have some kind of effect. Did they say somewhere that it's going be required to get sov? Link before random bull**** please?
Watch the golem.de video please, or read the massively article.
Quote: Hilmar said, "DUST battlefields will dictate who control specific planets inside the EVE MMO. If a player contracts a DUST mercenary team to go and conquer this district of a planet. Then ultimately he will be able to control the planet, and therefore the solar system, and therefore the constellation, and the region."
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Crimson Tail
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:10:00 -
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So many people over the years have wanted planetary flight and to be able to control planets for resources or whatever they had. And now that they are ACTUALLY going to implement it in a very innovative way, people are crying and *****ing about it saying that they are now second-class people and CCP doesn't care about them anymore?
Grow the F**K up already! You don't want to play it, THEN DONT! GTFO and stay in your pod. This is the most innovative way to introduce TWO gaming styles and merge them into ONE game that anyone has EVER had the BALLS to do. This is precedence setting in all of gaming history!
I want to see this work as it will open a whole new world for gaming in the future! Will it work? NO ONE here knows that and will will all have to watch to see if it does. Until then, shut the f**k up and go back to whining about how EVE sucks all the time.
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IceGoon
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:11:00 -
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Edited by: IceGoon on 18/08/2009 17:11:31
Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai "You will increasingly have to fight with your fleet [in EVE Online] but you will also have to contract people who play DUST, the console MMO, which then feeds into the sovereignty control system of EVE. Then EVE feeds back into that again by funding the mercenaries, giving them goals." In a nod to Starship Troopers, he said, "The fleet does the flying, the infantry does the dying."
Yeah lets make Sov warefare an even more arduous process with more logistics work and more camping. This will surely help small alliances break into 0.0 space.
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Ruby Khann
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Crimson Tail You don't want to play it, THEN DONT!
It doesn't matter if we don't play it, it affects our sov anyways.
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Crimson Tail
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: IceGoon Edited by: IceGoon on 18/08/2009 17:11:31
Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai "You will increasingly have to fight with your fleet [in EVE Online] but you will also have to contract people who play DUST, the console MMO, which then feeds into the sovereignty control system of EVE. Then EVE feeds back into that again by funding the mercenaries, giving them goals." In a nod to Starship Troopers, he said, "The fleet does the flying, the infantry does the dying."
Yeah lets make Sov warefare an even more arduous process with more logistics work and more camping. This will surely help small alliances break into 0.0 space.
Coming from a Goon who lets anyone who wants it, into 0.0 .....ok...... This has to do with Sov. You can still put up POS in 0.0 and operate from there. No Sov needed. You guys scared you won't rule everything now??
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Lothros Andastar Nuff said. Why should people who already pay to play this game have to buy a console and pay even more to keep sovereignty?
-100/10
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: IceGoon Edited by: IceGoon on 18/08/2009 17:11:31
Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai "You will increasingly have to fight with your fleet [in EVE Online] but you will also have to contract people who play DUST, the console MMO, which then feeds into the sovereignty control system of EVE. Then EVE feeds back into that again by funding the mercenaries, giving them goals." In a nod to Starship Troopers, he said, "The fleet does the flying, the infantry does the dying."
Yeah lets make Sov warefare an even more arduous process with more logistics work and more camping. This will surely help small alliances break into 0.0 space.
Confirming that I too would rather spend endless hours on POS shoot than play a FPS and shoot people in the face.
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Nabubrela
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:23:00 -
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Finaly I get to play with my kid. The younger one. He is 9.
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rosinERsundt
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Ruby Khann
Originally by: Crimson Tail You don't want to play it, THEN DONT!
It doesn't matter if we don't play it, it affects our sov anyways.
sad and true, STOP DUST
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IceGoon
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:28:00 -
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Edited by: IceGoon on 18/08/2009 17:29:41
Originally by: Crimson Tail
Originally by: IceGoon Edited by: IceGoon on 18/08/2009 17:11:31
Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai "You will increasingly have to fight with your fleet [in EVE Online] but you will also have to contract people who play DUST, the console MMO, which then feeds into the sovereignty control system of EVE. Then EVE feeds back into that again by funding the mercenaries, giving them goals." In a nod to Starship Troopers, he said, "The fleet does the flying, the infantry does the dying."
Yeah lets make Sov warefare an even more arduous process with more logistics work and more camping. This will surely help small alliances break into 0.0 space.
Coming from a Goon who lets anyone who wants it, into 0.0 .....ok...... This has to do with Sov. You can still put up POS in 0.0 and operate from there. No Sov needed. You guys scared you won't rule everything now??
No your right, small alliances that can barely pull it together to put up hundreds of towers, keep them fueled and properly stront timed will have absolulty no problem bribing dust players to fight for them and eat the cost of supplying them. On top of having a capital and support fleet big and enough to camp and blockade any enemy reinforcments.
Your right, I see a lot of sov changing hands if this goes through.
*Hint for the stupid. This means even more logistics + camping + napping + blobbing. You know the thing everyone complains about.
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Gajet
Gallente Veldspar International
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:29:00 -
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WTB Gallente Dropship skillbook!!
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Ottman
Amarr LoneWolf Mining
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:32:00 -
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wrong platform ccp, eve player have pc and pc gamer dont want to have ****ing consoles, so why the **** you make that for consoles ? bad decision, could happen that the money you invest into dust 514 is lost and you maybe loose customers in addition, was that really that wise ? dont make dumb stuff and **** on the community that supports you for years ccp, the only good advice that i can give ya, be happy that eve still runs and dont make dumb things like that, bringing in the fruits of ambulation project in a "new game" part for console is a cheesy maneuver that will cost you more money then you could earn with that, we are no dumb idiots you can milk like cows !
MfG Ottman
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Crimson Tail
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: IceGoon Edited by: IceGoon on 18/08/2009 17:29:41
Originally by: Crimson Tail
Originally by: IceGoon Edited by: IceGoon on 18/08/2009 17:11:31
Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai "You will increasingly have to fight with your fleet [in EVE Online] but you will also have to contract people who play DUST, the console MMO, which then feeds into the sovereignty control system of EVE. Then EVE feeds back into that again by funding the mercenaries, giving them goals." In a nod to Starship Troopers, he said, "The fleet does the flying, the infantry does the dying."
Yeah lets make Sov warefare an even more arduous process with more logistics work and more camping. This will surely help small alliances break into 0.0 space.
Coming from a Goon who lets anyone who wants it, into 0.0 .....ok...... This has to do with Sov. You can still put up POS in 0.0 and operate from there. No Sov needed. You guys scared you won't rule everything now??
No your right, small alliances that can barely pull it together to put up hundreds of towers, keep them fueled and properly stront timed will have absolulty no problem bribing dust players to fight for them and eat the cost of supplying them. On top of having a capital and support fleet big and enough to camp and blockade any enemy reinforcments.
Your right, I see a lot of sov changing hands if this goes through.
*Hint for the stupid. This means even more logistics + camping + napping + blobbing. You know the thing everyone complains about.
Yes...because all of us here know EXACTLY how DUST is going to play and work and how it will all be tied into EVE.......oh wait.... 
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Imiarr Timshae
Caldari Funny Men In Funny Hats
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai Q: Why would CCP introduce something that would invalidate the efforts of players in EVE Online? A: They wouldn't.
Thus: DUST 514 will not be the only way to claim sov.
You never know, CCP has ****ed up a lot of stuff before now.
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Nito Musashi
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:34:00 -
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waa we got moons that make us 100s of billions a month, and now small corps are going to steal our stuffz, with dust.
guess some of you just want to spend all them moon moneys on titans and junk to blob system fights and camp your home systems non stop. god forbid you have to hire armies to fight for you on planets on top of it all. cry a river hardcore l33t 0.0 corps tears are almost as tasty a carebear tears.
your billions in iskies can i has your stuffs? while you all emo rage quit over a logical game mechanic finally being implemented.
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Ukucia
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Lothros Andastar Nuff said. Why should people who already pay to play this game have to buy a console and pay even more to keep sovereignty?
It's not for you. It's targeted at a different kind of player.
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Crimson Tail
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Nito Musashi waa we got moons that make us 100s of billions a month, and now small corps are going to steal our stuffz, with dust.
guess some of you just want to spend all them moon moneys on titans and junk to blob system fights and camp your home systems non stop. god forbid you have to hire armies to fight for you on planets on top of it all. cry a river hardcore l33t 0.0 corps tears are almost as tasty a carebear tears.
your billions in iskies can i has your stuffs? while you all emo rage quit over a logical game mechanic finally being implemented.
LOL..quoted for truth!
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Ruby Khann
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ukucia
It's not for you. It's targeted at a different kind of player.
Players with Down's Syndrome.
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Bazuka
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:40:00 -
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CCP should had aimed higher and let WOW affect EVE universe. ___________
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JamesTalon
Caldari The Knights Templar R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Ottman wrong platform ccp, eve player have pc and pc gamer dont want to have ****ing consoles, so why the **** you make that for consoles ? bad decision, could happen that the money you invest into dust 514 is lost and you maybe loose customers in addition, was that really that wise ? dont make dumb stuff and **** on the community that supports you for years ccp, the only good advice that i can give ya, be happy that eve still runs and dont make dumb things like that, bringing in the fruits of ambulation project in a "new game" part for console is a cheesy maneuver that will cost you more money then you could earn with that, we are no dumb idiots you can milk like cows !
MfG Ottman
First, you do not speak for PC Gamers. I, obviously, play games on my PC, but I also have an XBox 360, and have consoles for much longer than a computer to play games with. So don't assume that other PC Gamers don't want to have consoles. Myself, I'm looking forward to more information on Dust 514, and can't wait to pick up a gun and help take over planets.
"Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the Last Day." - Robert Jordan |

Kyra Felann
Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Robert Hudson because they just want to pull the trigger and watch things go boom?
Well, I can see now how this will improve the game substantially. 
Replace "pull the trigger" with "hit F1" and does this really sound different from your average "leet PvPer"?
Besides it's a different game--they're just connected.
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Robert Hudson
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.18 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: Kyra Felann Replace "pull the trigger" with "hit F1" and does this really sound different from your average "leet PvPer"?
Yes, it does.
Originally by: Kyra Felann Besides it's a different game--they're just connected.
Huh?
Look, it's one thing to expand an existing game by providing new environmental options within in, but to open up a whole new approach to playing EVE on a completely different platform to a crowd who may or may not have any clue what's going on and have their actions directly impact a relatively ancient game universe seems like "trouble ahead".
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Ebon Prophecy
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.08.18 19:06:00 -
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ahhh, yes...
CCP doing what they do best...
Sucking your wallet dry....
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Rotnac
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.18 19:07:00 -
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Yeah, so unless the ground battles are just one facet of taking sov, this is going to be ****, if only because you'll get armies of Halo addicts ****ing with the Eve map. And indeed, if you think this helps small alliances get into 0.0, think again.
Yeah, sure, maybe this is really innovative. But if it ****s up Eve itself, then I don't care if this is the most innovative thing I will ever see in my life, its still ****.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2009.08.18 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Robert Hudson
Originally by: Kyra Felann Replace "pull the trigger" with "hit F1" and does this really sound different from your average "leet PvPer"?
Yes, it does.
True. The l337 PvPer is way more snobbish and elitist.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.18 19:11:00 -
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CCP old saying "We don't charge for expansions. Ever"
CCP New saying "We don't charge you for expansions; Just "Different" games built into eve which directly affect the most vital mechanic of the sandbox" _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
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000Hunter000
Gallente Missiles 'R' Us
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Posted - 2009.08.18 20:05:00 -
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I never thought i'd say this, but i think this is the beginning of the end, or atleast the end of the beginning...
It's obvious that ccp is now seriously starting to look in other games, so the importance of eve will be deminishing...
I wonder what will be next... 
Next... an EVE rts!!! (i'd buy that one tbfh!!! ) ________________________________________________
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Nuala Reece
Caldari Pilots of Damnation death from above..
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Posted - 2009.08.18 23:19:00 -
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Edited by: Nuala Reece on 18/08/2009 23:20:27
Originally by: Zartanic Also I do trust CCP unlike other devs, they love the game and would never do anything to ruin it.
this
Originally by: Crimson Tail So many people over the years have wanted planetary flight and to be able to control planets for resources or whatever they had. And now that they are ACTUALLY going to implement it in a very innovative way, people are crying and *****ing about it saying that they are now second-class people and CCP doesn't care about them anymore?
Grow the F**K up already! You don't want to play it, THEN DONT! GTFO and stay in your pod.
and this
As ever, to use an old (and not often enough repeated) maxim - adapt and evolve. Stop *****ing because your current favourite method of domination is under threat - Eve, like life, moves and adjusts and if you refuse to adapt you die. I may not choose to buy a console and play but I sure as hell will be paying attention to how it affects my life in Eve - more input to the universe = more interest and inovation.
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Bluddwolf
Khanid Guard
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Posted - 2009.08.19 04:25:00 -
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Although I'm just learning about Dust 514, I can see why some players of EVE find it disturbing that 360 / PS3 players will be able to impact our PC gaming world.
Give them there own server, a mirror of our server, where both PC and consol players can mix if they wish.
Another solution is to develop Dust 514 for the PC as well, and make it a free expansion.
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