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Lothros Andastar
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:58:00 -
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Nuff said. Why should people who already pay to play this game have to buy a console and pay even more to keep sovereignty?
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Fossil Wolf
omen. Gay4Life
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:59:00 -
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fo
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Bodhidauruma
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Lothros Andastar Nuff said. Why should people who already pay to play this game have to buy a console and pay even more to keep sovereignty?
Because we are addicts who cant help ourselves?
I think the most likely senerio is that if you subscribe to EVE you will be able to fight on planets from within the EVE PC client.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:01:00 -
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No. Stop spamming. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
TimMc
Gallente Brutal Deliverance Novus Auctorita
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: Fossil Wolf fo
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I'm pretty sure ccp will make using soldiers mostly voluntery. The fleet supplying entertainment for soldiers, not the soldiers becoming the backbone of eve.
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Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:09:00 -
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Q: Why would CCP introduce something that would invalidate the efforts of players in EVE Online? A: They wouldn't.
Thus: DUST 514 will not be the only way to claim sov. -----
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Kayne Tor
Completely Legitimate Establishment
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:11:00 -
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Given every time anything happens anywhere ever it suddenly ruins EVE completely and forever, I think we'll live with having the game ruined a fifth time this morning.
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Robert Hudson
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai DUST 514 will not be the only way to claim sov.
I'm not convinced.
Let's throw a grenade at it and see what happens.
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Jowen Datloran
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:15:00 -
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I think there is a misunderstanding going on (as usual):
DUST514 is not directly aimed at providing existing players with new gameplay but to attract a new crowd of players to EVE that enjoy a different kind of gaming.
And no, this does not mean that CCP have started neglecting their current playerbase as DUST514 has been developed by a part of the company which only purpose in life has been that development. ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute
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Robert Hudson
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jowen Datloran I think there is a misunderstanding going on (as usual):
DUST514 is not directly aimed at providing existing players with new gameplay but to attract a new crowd of players to EVE that enjoy a different kind of gaming.
And no, this does not mean that CCP have started neglecting their current playerbase as DUST514 has been developed by a part of the company which only purpose in life has been that development.
So what you're saying is that 514 is destined to draw a new crowd who have never played EVE and don't give a crap about what's going on in space because they just want to pull the trigger and watch things go boom?
Well, I can see now how this will improve the game substantially.
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Nuala Reece
Caldari Pilots of Damnation death from above..
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Lothros Andastar Nuff said. Why should people who already pay to play this game have to buy a console and pay even more to keep sovereignty?
You know you don't have to aye? On a personal level you, as an individual, can choose not to play because other people will be playing. Your alliance may have to pay isk to hire those console players to fight on planets they want to control, but since the ins and outs haven't been released yet I think your sky falling prediction is a) premature and b) uninformed.
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Gone'Postal
Void Engineers Mass - Effect
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Robert Hudson
Originally by: Jowen Datloran I think there is a misunderstanding going on (as usual):
DUST514 is not directly aimed at providing existing players with new gameplay but to attract a new crowd of players to EVE that enjoy a different kind of gaming.
And no, this does not mean that CCP have started neglecting their current playerbase as DUST514 has been developed by a part of the company which only purpose in life has been that development.
So what you're saying is that 514 is destined to draw a new crowd who have never played EVE and don't give a crap about what's going on in space because they just want to pull the trigger and watch things go boom?
Well, I can see now how this will improve the game substantially.
Don't forget the new crowd of people have to be asleep <6PM and can't to alarm clock ops. there mommys and daddys won't allow it
Originally by: masternerdguy
Officer mods arent spread out because the bpos are innacesible to 99% of eve.
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Bodhidauruma
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai Q: Why would CCP introduce something that would invalidate the efforts of players in EVE Online? A: They wouldn't.
Thus: DUST 514 will not be the only way to claim sov.
"Currently, player alliance sovereignty (regional control) is tied to maintaining numerous player-owned structures across different solar systems to establish a territory as belonging to that alliance, and as shown on the game's star map. Since DUST 514 is set in the same galaxy as the core MMO, with the same planets, EVE players will have the option of contracting DUST (player) mercenaries to gain control of planets.
Hilmar said, "DUST battlefields will dictate who control specific planets inside the EVE MMO. If a player contracts a DUST mercenary team to go and conquer this district of a planet. Then ultimately he will be able to control the planet, and therefore the solar system, and therefore the constellation, and the region."
He explained more about the interplay between EVE Online and DUST 514. Hilmar said, "You will increasingly have to fight with your fleet [in EVE Online] but you will also have to contract people who play DUST, the console MMO, which then feeds into the sovereignty control system of EVE. Then EVE feeds back into that again by funding the mercenaries, giving them goals." In a nod to Starship Troopers, he said, "The fleet does the flying, the infantry does the dying."
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:23:00 -
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Obvious troll is obvious
read my post in page 14 of the main thread. --------------------------
WTB a sig, or moderation of my sig by all the hot CCP girls. |
Jowen Datloran
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Robert Hudson
Originally by: Jowen Datloran I think there is a misunderstanding going on (as usual):
DUST514 is not directly aimed at providing existing players with new gameplay but to attract a new crowd of players to EVE that enjoy a different kind of gaming.
And no, this does not mean that CCP have started neglecting their current playerbase as DUST514 has been developed by a part of the company which only purpose in life has been that development.
So what you're saying is that 514 is destined to draw a new crowd who have never played EVE and don't give a crap about what's going on in space because they just want to pull the trigger and watch things go boom?
Well, I can see now how this will improve the game substantially.
Odd, EVE has always been full of people who like things to go boom, what is the difference here?
And what is wrong with new players? You don't want anybody new to participate in a world you enjoy? ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute
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Robert Hudson
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:25:00 -
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As far as I can tell, the fleet still does the dying, we just don't do it face-down in the dirt standing next to a few dozen other people who have no clue what EVE is and think that 514 is their vault number.
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Nito Musashi
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:25:00 -
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xbots love fps games, ps3bots like fps games, your average eve player probably has played an fps game and likes them. if ccp shanghai makes a good or better be great fps game if they want to charge a subscription fee to play then more power to them.
i am sure the console people will get that they are part of a online game called eve online, that many of their missions come from that game, that maybe some of us players are actually transporting these people around, and perhaps they will get curious and wonder what us pod players do in the stars while they are bleeding in the trenches and give eve o a look.
either way more iskies for ccp, and none if us have to buy the dust, or get addicted to it or pay a sub to play it, and who knows with the grin they gave when asked about it maybe one of these days us eve players get it for free after they wring some cash out of the console crowd.
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Gone'Postal
Void Engineers Mass - Effect
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Bodhidauruma
Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai Q: Why would CCP introduce something that would invalidate the efforts of players in EVE Online? A: They wouldn't.
Thus: DUST 514 will not be the only way to claim sov.
"Currently, player alliance sovereignty (regional control) is tied to maintaining numerous player-owned structures across different solar systems to establish a territory as belonging to that alliance, and as shown on the game's star map. Since DUST 514 is set in the same galaxy as the core MMO, with the same planets, EVE players will have the option of contracting DUST (player) mercenaries to gain control of planets.
Hilmar said, "DUST battlefields will dictate who control specific planets inside the EVE MMO. If a player contracts a DUST mercenary team to go and conquer this district of a planet. Then ultimately he will be able to control the planet, and therefore the solar system, and therefore the constellation, and the region."
He explained more about the interplay between EVE Online and DUST 514. Hilmar said, "You will increasingly have to fight with your fleet [in EVE Online] but you will also have to contract people who play DUST, the console MMO, which then feeds into the sovereignty control system of EVE. Then EVE feeds back into that again by funding the mercenaries, giving them goals." In a nod to Starship Troopers, he said, "The fleet does the flying, the infantry does the dying."
Well if DUST is limited to PS3 and 360, I HOPE that it can be changed to work on the next gen consoles as well (read: Faster then they support EVE) or dust will die and there can be no Sov changes.
Originally by: masternerdguy
Officer mods arent spread out because the bpos are innacesible to 99% of eve.
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Zartanic
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:35:00 -
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Edited by: Zartanic on 18/08/2009 16:36:07 Assuming this intergrates fully with EVE it will be a major boost to the game. In theory EVE could expand to be a whole universe covering every aspect of gameplay, unlike most games where they are stuck to a small area. EVE has to move to this one day, they have no choice as games evolve and they must not be left behind. I have never really seen EVE as a pure space game, to me its a whole of life game and it would be the first to attempt that.
Also I do trust CCP unlike other devs, they love the game and would never do anything to ruin it.
Maybe we should wait until more details are released.
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Robert Hudson
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Zartanic Edited by: Zartanic on 18/08/2009 16:36:07 Assuming this intergrates fully with EVE it will be a major boost to the game. In theory EVE could expand to be a whole universe covering every aspect of gameplay, unlike most games where they are stuck to a small area. EVE has to move to this one day, they have no choice as games evolve and they must not be left behind. I have never really seen EVE as a pure space game, to me its a whole of life game and it would be the first to attempt that.
Also I do trust CCP unlike other devs, they love the game and would never do anything to ruin it.
Maybe we should wait until more details are released.
We don't need more details than "FPS", "console" and "integrated with EVE".
It simply seems ridiculous to me that of all the ways they could think to improve EVE and expand the general environmental offering of this game, they decided that people popping caps at each other on a 360 was the best way to go about doing that.
That is all.
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Gautan Virdamot
Nebula Rasa Vanguard
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:43:00 -
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Can you bombard the FPS people from orbit? Did anyone fraps it? |
Zackalwe
Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jowen Datloran I think there is a misunderstanding going on (as usual):
DUST514 is not directly aimed at providing existing players with new gameplay but to attract a new crowd of players to EVE that enjoy a different kind of gaming.
And no, this does not mean that CCP have started neglecting their current playerbase as DUST514 has been developed by a part of the company which only purpose in life has been that development.
Thats the problem. Why do they think Eve players wont enjoy a good FPS? If this Dust thing was part of Eve it would be fantastic. Thats what a lot of people were hoping WIS would eventually turn into, it would be the perfect all-in-one space game. Instead... console? Are you kidding me?
Also CCP's only income atm is Eve-online subs. How can you say it wont affect Eve development? _
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Jowen Datloran
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Zackalwe
Thats the problem. Why do they think Eve players wont enjoy a good FPS? If this Dust thing was part of Eve it would be fantastic. Thats what a lot of people were hoping WIS would eventually turn into, it would be the perfect all-in-one space game. Instead... console? Are you kidding me?
Also CCP's only income atm is Eve-online subs. How can you say it wont affect Eve development?
Would you have preferred CCP had developed a MMO FPS and put in the world of IVI so there were absolutely no interaction between the two games? Or are you so silly that you do not believe CCP should develop any kind of games besides EVE? ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute
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Zartanic
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Zackalwe
Originally by: Jowen Datloran I think there is a misunderstanding going on (as usual):
DUST514 is not directly aimed at providing existing players with new gameplay but to attract a new crowd of players to EVE that enjoy a different kind of gaming.
And no, this does not mean that CCP have started neglecting their current playerbase as DUST514 has been developed by a part of the company which only purpose in life has been that development.
Thats the problem. Why do they think Eve players wont enjoy a good FPS? If this Dust thing was part of Eve it would be fantastic. Thats what a lot of people were hoping WIS would eventually turn into, it would be the perfect all-in-one space game. Instead... console? Are you kidding me?
Also CCP's only income atm is Eve-online subs. How can you say it wont affect Eve development?
Well yes I like FPS too. And any company has to diversify. CCP at the moment is a one trick pony which is very dangerous, one **** up with EVE and the company would go down the tubes. I suspect investors have been scared away over that.
The idea that all players only like one play style is a bit out of date too. Many players play all sorts of games and if a MMROPG can accommodate that well then they will attract a lot more subs which will benefit us all.
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Ruby Khann
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Jowen Datloran And no, this does not mean that CCP have started neglecting their current playerbase as DUST514 has been developed by a part of the company which only purpose in life has been that development.
At '08 Fanfest they specifically stated that they had pulled resources off EVE for other projects.
Halo 514 is why sound is broken, probing is broken, and sockets still close.
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Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Lothros Andastar Nuff said. Why should people who already pay to play this game have to buy a console and pay even more to keep sovereignty?
its a different game on a different platform for a different playstyle, just set in the same universe. And its not neccesary for playing EvE online.
I think I will find EVE online just as good as always after this FPS been launched. I wont buy it myself since I manically loathe FPS games with a passion not of this world, but it wont affect my love to EVE either!
So will EVe die over this FPS? Nope. But this Dust game might end up being a fiasco ofcource. Only the future will tell.
I am however very dissapointed in CCP that the first game CCP publically announces is a FPS though.
Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL |
Dramaticus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:55:00 -
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The EVE NGE.
Please don't use RL pictuers of players in Sig without permission. - WeatherMan |
Jowen Datloran
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
I am however very dissapointed in CCP that the first game CCP publically announces is a FPS though.
You did not me that, right? ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute
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Ruby Khann
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker its a different game on a different platform for a different playstyle, just set in the same universe. And its not neccesary for playing EvE online.
Not nescessary unless you want to claim sov. Hilmar said this will have -regional- effects.
If Warcraft 3 players could wipe WOW raids, people would be ****ed. Exactly the same principle is at work here.
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Special Projects Executive
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Gautan Virdamot Can you bombard the FPS people from orbit?
Goddess I hope so.
I want a kinetic harpoon module that lets you rain heat death down on their little FPS avatars like rain in a hurricane.
Wait...was that outloud just now? --Vel
Experience is what you get right after you need it.
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