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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
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Posted - 2009.08.21 04:22:00 -
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Originally by: Shevar Is there any confirmation/quotes that dust will actually happen in the same environment as tranquility?
Depends what you mean by "same environment".
It will be the same universe and what happens in one game will affect what happens in the other — that much has been said. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Tomas Ysidro
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.08.21 04:22:00 -
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As long as I can doomsday these bunny hopping 12 year olds, I'm game
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soldieroffortune 258
Gallente Trinity Council Seposita Astrum
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Posted - 2009.08.21 04:47:00 -
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Originally by: Farelle can I sit in low orbit and drop ordance on the console kiddies? That is the important question imho.
Basically this tbqh, I'd love to orbitally bombard the **** out of the little FPS ant looking people, I was always the Wraith ***** whenever I played Halo Combat Evolved
Also, with this, we saw in the video that their was clearly a Megathron Class Battleship that got blowed up, so hopefully this means that Planetary Interaction is going to become a big part of EVE online, so, we here in EVE are going to get a bit more stuffz as well along with the new FPS MMO since both games are intertwined, you KNOW we are going to get stuff for that reason.
Btw, im kinda tired, worked alot today, more tired than usual Please re-size your signature to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes.Applebabe
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stupid flanders
Raiders Of Civilization
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Posted - 2009.08.21 04:49:00 -
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Already having a PS3 my question is can I buy dust with plex's? While I prefer PC for FPS's I can hold my own with with the joysticks but a PC version would be pure win in my book.
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LordSwift
Caldari Fearless Phantoms Inc
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Posted - 2009.08.21 04:52:00 -
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Wow just wow. I am actually ashamed to be a part of this community. The rage and insults at ccp are uncalled for. Most of you all need to grow up and wait for all the facts before you make wild assumptions. All you saw was a 5 minute video about this new game. I really dont think ccp would risk everything on a console game. They know what they are doing (I hope)
In the end its CCP's game, not "our" game as some of you highly tempered people have said. They can do the hell they like and if it screws up your sov and makes all you alliances work harder cos you start to lose a lot of space. I am ready to watch the fireworks with my popcorn. Its going to be fun Join the brown Coats today!!! |
Shevar
Minmatar Target Practice incorporated
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Posted - 2009.08.21 04:52:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Shevar Is there any confirmation/quotes that dust will actually happen in the same environment as tranquility?
Depends what you mean by "same environment".
It will be the same universe and what happens in one game will affect what happens in the other ù that much has been said.
Yeah but that's open to A LOT of interpretation.
Ranging from just the story line will have effects and be at the same time (eg. some RP newsblurb in eve also being an RP newsblurb in dust) to playing dust being a requirement for holding .0 or anywhere in between.
If it's the latter it really is a slippery slope imho (which is why I really can't see it given much influence outside for example factional warfare). Especially considering the fact it is on another platform and thus requiring more money, you can argue that currently people can't do everything in the game (which is absolutely accurate) but the only reason for that is because people choose in game to follow different paths, technically every player can do and achieve the same as everyone else, the moment you introduce another game on a different platform kinda means that that is ruined.
Ohwell I'll see what comes of it and if I don't like it at all there is always a nice cancel button in the account management pages. --- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs |
Shiu
EtE Clan Varangians.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 04:57:00 -
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Now if only we would get an option of planetary bombardment. The thought of blowing up a crap-ton of console players by the press of a single button just warms my heart.
"This long run is a misleading guide to current affairs - In the long run we are all dead." - John Maynard Keynes |
LordSwift
Caldari Fearless Phantoms Inc
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Posted - 2009.08.21 05:03:00 -
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Originally by: Shiu Edited by: Shiu on 21/08/2009 04:57:18 Now if only we would get the option of planetary bombardment. The thought of blowing up a crap-ton of console players by the press of a single button just warms my heart.
Keep dreaming. its only going to be minimal interatction. Not same server etc. so no Join the brown Coats today!!! |
ViolenTUK
Gallente DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.21 05:24:00 -
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Edited by: ViolenTUK on 21/08/2009 05:24:40 I don't want a 12 year old bunnyhopping little pri.ck to have ANY influence in eve online.
CCP can cram DUST up their ass.
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Jacinta Worth
Raddick Explorations
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Posted - 2009.08.21 05:33:00 -
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12-year olds, whether bunny-hopping or not, already have some influence over this game. Oh, and given a choice between them and the behaviour of some of the people I've seen post in this thread ...
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ViolenTUK
Gallente DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.21 05:44:00 -
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Originally by: Jacinta Worth 12-year olds, whether bunny-hopping or not, already have some influence over this game. Oh, and given a choice between them and the behaviour of some of the people I've seen post in this thread ...
Different type of 12 year old. And yes i know what you mean.
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ServantOfMask
Minmatar Foundation Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.08.21 06:43:00 -
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Originally by: Hyperforce99 To OP
As far as i'm aware, Xbox Live GOLD is NOT needed for console MMOs because Microsoft takes money out of the the subscription fees for said MMOs themselves.
might want to check your facts there... Micro**** recently changed their mmo policies regarding xbox live useage. the only mmo's that do NOT require an xbox live GOLD acct are PSO and FFXI. all future mmo's WILL require the player to also subscribe to xbox love GOLD. "Misina Arlath
GIRL = Guy In Real Life MMORPG = Many Men Online Role Playing Girls." |
ServantOfMask
Minmatar Foundation Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.08.21 07:11:00 -
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Originally by: oprime
FFXI is the square enix MMO on xbox360. It only requires a xbox live silver account and all the server / updates are handled by square. All MS does is direct final fantasy 11 traffic to SE servers. Which means when xbox live is down, xbox FFXI players can't login lol. That's the only time that MS will play any role in what happens with Dust if CCP goes that route.
check your facts.. PSO and FFXI are the only two exceptions on xbox live being allowed to only use silver, after micro****s recent policy change regarding mmo's all other mmo's including future mmo's are required to pay for the xbox live GOLD sub to play online. "Misina Arlath
GIRL = Guy In Real Life MMORPG = Many Men Online Role Playing Girls." |
eliminator2
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.21 07:13:00 -
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Originally by: Cypherous
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi I now have to pay for an Xbox, Xbox live subscription, and a $60 Halo clone to participate competitively in EVE's endgame.
Why are people excited about this bull****?
Its optional you don't have to do it, and go PS3 no subscription :P
Its not something you'll have to do it'll just tie in to sov but from hilmar's details you'll be able to hire people to do it instead of doing it yourself :)
this is why im not getting it if its for xbox for simple fact the ps3 would be way cheaper yet xbox for it would be so expensive ----------------------------------------------- i met Eliminator1..... i ate it and spat it out now hes my minion :)
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Empress Norton
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Posted - 2009.08.21 07:13:00 -
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Originally by: Akor Flandres The tears are so sweet.
their anguish sustains us |
Komen
Gallente Domination. THE KLINGONS
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Posted - 2009.08.21 08:11:00 -
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As an ex counterstrike junkie, every time someone says 'Dust' I start twitching.
I think the idea of tying an FPS game into sov mechanics is interesting. Waiting to see how it's implemented and what effect on Sov mechanics can be achieved through the game.
And, oh, so THIS is what that short clip of an FPS style thing from fanfest '08 was about. I just remembered that. Way to hint drop CCP. At the time I just thought it was one of those 'this would be cool but we're not actually working on it' things.
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Ratchman
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Posted - 2009.08.21 08:31:00 -
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Man, so much rage at something only just announced, with minimal detail.
To those of you who think that creating a new game in the same persistant universe is a massive rip-off, I have two things to say. It is a new idea in the same universe which requires one hell of a lot of work, a lot of design, and a lot of coding. To make it financially viable, they are going to have to make it a separate game. You may not like it, but that's economics. If you think it's a rip-off, then you've been spoiled.
Has anyone actually considered yet that the work being done on ambulation is all part of the same project? This could well be the 'interface' between the two games, and could lead to some intriguing developments. Would you be so willing to crucify Dust if it meant the end to your ambulation dreams?
Secondly, there are other persistant universes with many, many separate games involved, most notably Star Wars. Why aren't you all raging at George Lucas that the game 'Supremacy' ruined your enjoyment of 'X-Wing Vs TIE Fighter'. They may not have been directly connected, but it's all part of the same whole, and events in one game have shaped events in others (such as the Old Republic games).
There is also a lot of snobbery in this thread about console users. You complain about the game being infiltrated by immature people who will bring the intellectual nature of EVE down. I hate to break it to you, but the game is already full of immature morons who like to do nothing but cause grief to others.
Personally, I have many contemporaries who have consoles, but never really got into PC gaming, possibly because I was in the generation to whom computing was the worse kind of geekery. They got into gaming as they got older, but lack the same kind of computer literacy that I do. This does not make them stupid and liable to bring down the tone of EVE. Console does not equal child anymore than PC equates to adult. Get over your own egos.
Frankly, I think this idea is a good one. More exposure to the EVE Universe would promote more curiosity about EVE Online, and possibly more customers. I'd be surprised if it was console only. It may be at first, but would migrate to PC (if successful) in the long run.
To those concerned about 0.0 sovreignty. Do you really think 'console kiddies' are going to instantly change everything you've worked so hard for? I know 0.0 is competetive, but there's only so much time and effort that each person can pour into a game. If you just have to have the console game running at the same time as multiple EVE accounts, then you really need to calm down, or the stress will get to you. All this will mean is a group of gamers you don't know may help provide an additional advantage. You'd still need to do all of the existing things required.
I think the only real problem CCP have with this, is whether it can hold it's own in a market that is saturated with FPS clones. Of course, the EVE universe has an advantage in having this connection to a persistant universe, and this could be exploited well, perhaps even lead to a minor revolution in FPSs. The replayability of these games goes up dramatically when you know they have a long-lasting impact elsewhere.
I quite like the idea of bringing a new plane to EVE Online. You shouldn't shoot it down in flames before they have even got it off the ground. But then, reason and forums make for strange bedfellows.
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Sade Onyx
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Posted - 2009.08.21 08:41:00 -
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of course its an expansion to Eve. You've already told us that it will become the new "sovereignty system"
More deceptions from CCP, starting to make a pretty good list now..
"Drones work fine" "More risk, more reward" "Dust isnt an expansion"
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.08.21 08:46:00 -
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Eve is getting a seperate expansion during DUST 514's launching.
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Kevin Kenobi
Sigillum Militum Xpisti
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Posted - 2009.08.21 08:54:00 -
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First, I got sick to my stomach when I learned about Dust. My corp is already talking about setting up sort of a ground operations division and being a poor college student I can barely afford my EVE subscription at the moment.
As for Dust, I don't know how well it will success. Planetside, WW2 Online, other MMOFPS games haven't exactly succeed. Seems like to me that CCP is depending on a lot of EVE players signing up.
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Ratchman
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Posted - 2009.08.21 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox Edited by: Nova Fox on 21/08/2009 08:50:01 Eve is getting a seperate expansion during DUST 514's launching. This seperate software package will be free unless atari is still boxing it at the time and you can get some cheap cards then.
You dont need Dust to Play eve, you dont need eve to play dust, you cant play dust with eve, you cant play eve with dust. Thus forth its not a true expansion.
Joint Pack maybe? Co-op'd game? Hell I dont think the terminilogy for this sort of game EXISTS yet, because Eve may be the first to do this.
Thank you for pointing that out so succinctly, and you're absolutely right. I can't think of any other game that does this, so a new term could be coined to describe it.
I do think ambulation is going to be inextricably linked to Dust, and you might have the populations of both games mingling in this aspect of the game. After all, you need a way of assigning missions to the troops, and this is more social than a cold menu screen.
Oh, and I did like the use of the word dustbunny to describe one of the players. Henceforth, all of the players of that game should be termed this. The cute name sits well in juxtaposition to the violent nature of the EVE universe.
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Shiu
EtE Clan Varangians.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 09:11:00 -
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Originally by: LordSwift
Originally by: Shiu Edited by: Shiu on 21/08/2009 04:57:18 Now if only we would get the option of planetary bombardment. The thought of blowing up a crap-ton of console players by the press of a single button just warms my heart.
Keep dreaming. its only going to be minimal interatction. Not same server etc. so no
Yeah I know, its a damn shame though. I honestly dont know what went through the minds of the CCP employees who thought this one out. Expanding a universe that was create on the PC exclusively to console? I would love to put my eve character on the ground, who knows, maybe I will be able to, but having to do that on a console (which I dont own and most likely never will) just seems silly. Like so many other people have said, its a slap in the face to the EVE community. So im just dreaming a bit here. Never liked console FPS games. And never liked the console players who think they can even compete with a mouse, using their analog sticks to aim. They deserve a nuke, sent from the depths of space (speaking of EVE here ofcourse ;) ) "This long run is a misleading guide to current affairs - In the long run we are all dead." - John Maynard Keynes |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 09:40:00 -
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Originally by: Ratchman
Originally by: Nova Fox Edited by: Nova Fox on 21/08/2009 08:50:01 Eve is getting a seperate expansion during DUST 514's launching. This seperate software package will be free unless atari is still boxing it at the time and you can get some cheap cards then.
You dont need Dust to Play eve, you dont need eve to play dust, you cant play dust with eve, you cant play eve with dust. Thus forth its not a true expansion.
Joint Pack maybe? Co-op'd game? Hell I dont think the terminilogy for this sort of game EXISTS yet, because Eve may be the first to do this.
Thank you for pointing that out so succinctly, and you're absolutely right. I can't think of any other game that does this, so a new term could be coined to describe it.
I do think ambulation is going to be inextricably linked to Dust, and you might have the populations of both games mingling in this aspect of the game. After all, you need a way of assigning missions to the troops, and this is more social than a cold menu screen.
Oh, and I did like the use of the word dustbunny to describe one of the players. Henceforth, all of the players of that game should be termed this. The cute name sits well in juxtaposition to the violent nature of the EVE universe.
hah I like dustbunny
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Dhefi
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Posted - 2009.08.21 13:48:00 -
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To the OP. I really hope you are kidding.
Think! |
Iece Quaan
Caldari Utopian Research I.E.L. Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2009.08.21 14:05:00 -
[145]
I support this for one reason: it's making goons cry like little girls.
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Dravius Luxor
Minmatar Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.08.21 15:01:00 -
[146]
Don't get your knickers in a twist.
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Brolly
Caldari Caldari State Inc. Deathadder Coalition
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Posted - 2009.08.21 15:28:00 -
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I would like to take this moment and be immature.
*ahem*
Hahahaha, all toy alliance types, all your power will become nought.
All those hundreds of hours staring at gates will be for nought.
Whilst us console gamers are shooting the crap out of each other, you will be spinning your ship in stations.
Yes, us console gamers will take away your silly illusions of power, rise above and take your systems one by one, mwahahaha!
DUST Alliance will wipe away the old power blocks. Submit or die!
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SocialPolice
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Posted - 2009.08.21 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Jowen Datloran
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi
Originally by: Presidio Wow, tone down the sense of entitlement. It's a completely different game.
If it's a completely different game, why is it going to directly impact the major mechanics of EVE's endgame?
When did EVE start to have an "end game"? I thought it was a sandbox.
when 75% of 0.0 napped itself and crush anyone who want to carve out their own space... thats why its called endgame.
And no im not a bitter bob alt.
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Adeptis
Amarr Black Storm Cartel Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.21 19:00:00 -
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hop hop hop I takez ur planetz I lol at these forums |
Kataclismo
Gallente Imperium .H.E.M.P.
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Posted - 2009.08.22 17:45:00 -
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I see it as:
- When the game turns "online" somekind of update will be set in EVE to allow some grade of interaction
- It will help on sov, or help to advance even more sov, or maybe to hold sov against attackers...
- It MAYBE a jump for ambulation, maybe we can meet some of these DUST soldiers in the stations around the galaxy!
- DUST 514 is not an expansion, it is a GAME that probably makes use of the TQ Server DB for interaction some grade of interaction or will have its own server that will interface the TQ server, dont matter the result, it will not be "the same game" but what one does MAY interact with the other one...
- Looks an awesome game, I'll wait to see it, but if it comes only for XBOX and PS-3 will be a shame, I hate consoles. IF THERE IS NO FUN, THERES NO NEED TO BE DONE PLAY ΞνΞ ΘΠLІΠΞ
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