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Slave 2739FKZ Minmatar	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:01:00 - [61] Bull**, it AFFECTS EVE-O unvierse, hence is part of it. Stop spinning it like that. Either integrate it with the game or don't integrate it at all, anything else is plain bull for the players that have been supporting your company for years. WIS is an expansion which allows EVE players to dress leather and walk around stations. Dust514 is a console shooter/rts** which will tie into EVE and affect sov.
oprime	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:07:00 - [62] Originally by: Messoroz Edited by: Messoroz on 18/08/2009 20:35:34 Edited by: Messoroz on 18/08/2009 20:33:21 Originally by: LaVista Vista Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi I now have to pay for an Xbox, Xbox live subscription, and a $60 Halo clone to participate competitively in EVE's endgame. Why are people excited about this bull****? First of all, it has neither been confirmed to be on the xbox nor PS3. It could be either, it could be both. And price hasn't been announced. In fact, it might be a free download like EVE with monthly charge. It might be a part of your current subscription even! For the xbox, Microsoft will NEVER allow a game like Dust 514 to be free, and the updates will NEVER be free over microsoft's dead body, even great companies like Valve have tried and failed to get allowed to have more than one free update. FFXI is the square enix MMO on xbox360. It only requires a xbox live silver account and all the server / updates are handled by square. All MS does is direct final fantasy 11 traffic to SE servers. Which means when xbox live is down, xbox FFXI players can't login lol. That's the only time that MS will play any role in what happens with Dust if CCP goes that route.
Generalissima Gallente	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:13:00 - [63] Originally by: CCP Fallout Heya, just wanted to clear the air here: EVE Online's expansions will continue to be free. DUST is not an expansion to EVE Online. Yes it is. It's going to be part of EVE, it's going to affect things IN EVE, it's going to be required as part of Sov holding. Unless you all have changed your minds on that (and I hope so). Your statement is a lie that isn't going to hold up.
Lifelongnoob Caldari Final Conflict UK	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:14:00 - [64] Edited by: Lifelongnoob on 20/08/2009 17:14:21 here is how it will work u play eve online as normal your 12 year old kid will play dust 514 and pew pew on planets while u pewpew in space not a parent? no problem im sure u have young siblings or cousins to play dust 514 for your corp
Calenon Caldari InCoherent Darkness	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:18:00 - [65] Originally by: Generalissima Originally by: CCP Fallout Heya, just wanted to clear the air here: EVE Online's expansions will continue to be free. DUST is not an expansion to EVE Online. Yes it is. It's going to be part of EVE, it's going to affect things IN EVE, it's going to be required as part of Sov holding. Unless you all have changed your minds on that (and I hope so). Your statement is a lie that isn't going to hold up. So I guess we all get free t-shirts, key-chains... from the eve store as well?
jos wijnants	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:20:00 - [66] Originally by: CCP Fallout Heya, just wanted to clear the air here: EVE Online's expansions will continue to be free. DUST is not an expansion to EVE Online. Its the promised ambulation sold to microsoft/Sony in my eyes As a result Microsoft and/or Sony will demand all exclusive new content ever to be build by ccp Happens all the time
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Vanguard.	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:24:00 - [67] Originally by: Generalissima Originally by: CCP Fallout Heya, just wanted to clear the air here: EVE Online's expansions will continue to be free. DUST is not an expansion to EVE Online. It's going to be part of EVE, it's going to affect things IN EVE slightly, it's going to be a part of Sov holding. Your statement is truth that is going to hold up. fixed that for you
Neriel Odershank	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:28:00 - [68] Wait... will it be for console only? Not for PC too??
Professor Dumbledore Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:28:00 - [69] Originally by: CCP Fallout Heya, just wanted to clear the air here: EVE Online's expansions will continue to be free. DUST is not an expansion to EVE Online. I dont know how the ** you dont realize that playing this new stupid ing game that is goign to change the way sov is doled out in another **ing game isn't required for playing 0.0.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Vanguard.	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:29:00 - [70] Originally by: Professor Dumbledore Originally by: CCP Fallout Heya, just wanted to clear the air here: EVE Online's expansions will continue to be free. DUST is not an expansion to EVE Online. I dont know how the ** you dont realize that playing this new stupid ing game that is goign to change the way sov is doled out in another **ing game isn't required for playing 0.0. Because its not? From what I have seen it is but a small part of something larger.
Hartsock1	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:29:00 - [71] RAVE MUSIC RAVE RAVE RAVE RAVE!!!!! Any how dont say anything about charging us for this expansion I just paid for the 12 month sub so SHHHHHHH
Little Tigerlilly	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:32:00 - [72] Originally by: Generalissima Originally by: CCP Fallout Heya, just wanted to clear the air here: EVE Online's expansions will continue to be free. DUST is not an expansion to EVE Online. Yes it is. It's going to be part of EVE, it's going to affect things IN EVE, it's going to be required as part of Sov holding. Unless you all have changed your minds on that (and I hope so). Your statement is a lie that isn't going to hold up. LOL. I'm sure. Maybe you would be happier in high sec space.
Tippia Raddick Explorations	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:32:00 - [73] Originally by: Professor Dumbledore I dont know how the ** you dont realize that playing this new stupid ing game that is goign to change the way sov is doled out in another **ing game isn't required for playing 0.0. Quite correct. Playing it isn't required for doing the whole 0.0 thing. That was your point, right? I kind of got lost in all the double negations.
Anomandaris Draginpurake	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:34:00 - [74] Now aren't these tears delicious. As has been mentioned, there is no confirmation on how the changes will be implemented, how much the game will cost, or whether a subscription will be needed. As has also been mentioned, this is a new game, not an expansion. You can tell this because it has a different name. In short; change is coming, pour yourself a nice tall glass of Man Up, and drink it.
AngelFood	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:34:00 - [75] This will spell the end for eve online. sigh
jos wijnants	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:37:00 - [76] Originally by: AngelFood This will spell the end for eve online. sigh no Eve will live on in those consoles with a faint memory of Internetplayers
Sobach Gallente Fourth Circle	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:38:00 - [77] A long time ago a CCP Dev wisely said something along the line of: "When given any information, EVE players will automatically assume the worst possible outcome". Let's see here so far the facts are: -Dust 514 is set in the EVE universe -Dust 514 will have some sort of yet-to-be-announced effect on the yet-to-be-announce new Sov. mechanic. -Dust 514 will be released for console(s).... so far after being processed by said EVE player's brain filters, somehow it all turn out to be: -Dust 514 IS EVE!!!111!one It's a secret expansion that they're charging us for!!! -Dust 514 WILL DECIDE TH3 FATE OF 0.0!!!!11! BUNNY HOPPING 12YR OLDS WILL BE THE BANE OF US ALLLLLL -DUST 514 is x360 ONLY, CCP is forcing us to buy a new console and pay for a new subscription zomgwtf!!! Did I miss anything?
Aumai	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:39:00 - [78] Originally by: Generalissima Originally by: CCP Fallout Heya, just wanted to clear the air here: EVE Online's expansions will continue to be free. DUST is not an expansion to EVE Online. Yes it is. It's going to be part of EVE, it's going to affect things IN EVE, it's going to be required as part of Sov holding. Unless you all have changed your minds on that (and I hope so). It's never been said that playing DUST will be a requirement to hold sov. It's been said that it will be a factor, but it won't be a requirement. If you can find a quote that says otherwise, I'd like to see it, though! But anyway, consider this: Instead of DUST, CCP implement a system where sov is affected by combat on planets, and you can affect that by sending down vehicles/supplies/missions or orbital bombardments. The difference is that the war is entirely simulated, and it comes down to which side is getting more supplies with a little bit of randomness. As an EVE player, from this I get: * New sov mechanism * Awesome planetary bombardment * A totally new gameplay mechanic The downside? It's another ISK sink, and yeah - it's a change to the existing sov mechanic which will have some people bawwwing. So, this brings me to my point: What is the difference between the way I have just described, and replacing the equations/randomness with real people fighting the war? The main difference I can see is that with real people it's ****ING BADASS. Aside from that, there isn't much difference. I sincerely doubt that there will be real time communication between EVE players and DUST players - have a think about the story going on here. EVE pilots are the elite - why would they talk to the soldier scum? EVE pilots are the ones giving the orders - if anything, you should be pleased that you get to boss around the "mouth breathing" console gamers in an RTS style from within EVE. On an unrelated note, your concept of "it affects EVE, therefore its an expansion, therefore it should be free" is flawed. The books detailing EVE history/etc are affecting the universe - should they be free?
Ad Valorem	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:40:00 - [79] Will Dust have PLEX? Can Eve players please make ten times as much isk/hr on average, compared to Dust players? Then you will have 30+k Dust players at the start, all spending isk like mad on Dust Sov wars and trying out the game. New Dust kiddies will play EVE for the extra isk they can make and hey, pod pilots are sposed to be mega rich compared to crews and grunts, right?
Professor Dumbledore Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:40:00 - [80] Originally by: Little Tigerlilly Originally by: Generalissima Originally by: CCP Fallout Heya, just wanted to clear the air here: EVE Online's expansions will continue to be free. DUST is not an expansion to EVE Online. Yes it is. It's going to be part of EVE, it's going to affect things IN EVE, it's going to be required as part of Sov holding. Unless you all have changed your minds on that (and I hope so). Your statement is a lie that isn't going to hold up. LOL. I'm sure. Maybe you would be happier in high sec space. And maybe he would be happy with people playing EVE being the only ones that AFFECT the eve universe. Why the ** is another game going to affect this game at ing all. Who the hell knows CCP is **ing crazy.
Doomed Predator The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:41:00 - [81] Originally by: AngelFood This will spell the end for eve online. sigh Why don't you use your powers of predicting the future at buying some lottery tickets,win and buy out CCP? Also,experts predict sea levels to rise 2 meters cause of tears on EVE players.
nails Caldari Ota Corps	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:42:00 - [82] Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi I now have to pay for an Xbox, Xbox live subscription, and a $60 Halo clone to participate competitively in EVE's endgame. Why are people excited about this bull****? Well obviously you fail for owning an xbox.
Builder Robert	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:43:00 - [83] I've already contracted several angry 13 year olds to take over your systems, prepare your planets.
Hoo Is	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:43:00 - [84] I hope Dust is 90% and EVE is 10% of Sov. Death to the POS Spam and Alarm clock Sieges
Doomed Predator The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:44:00 - [85] Originally by: Sobach A long time ago a CCP Dev wisely said something along the line of: "When given any information, EVE players will automatically assume the worst possible outcome". Let's see here so far the facts are: -Dust 514 is set in the EVE universe -Dust 514 will have some sort of yet-to-be-announced effect on the yet-to-be-announce new Sov. mechanic. -Dust 514 will be released for console(s).... so far after being processed by said EVE player's brain filters, somehow it all turn out to be: -Dust 514 IS EVE!!!111!one It's a secret expansion that they're charging us for!!! -Dust 514 WILL DECIDE TH3 FATE OF 0.0!!!!11! BUNNY HOPPING 12YR OLDS WILL BE THE BANE OF US ALLLLLL -DUST 514 is x360 ONLY, CCP is forcing us to buy a new console and pay for a new subscription zomgwtf!!! Did I miss anything? You forgot that they combine the 3 into EVE is dead or will soon be. The 'Fendahlian Collective' strikes again
TCL987 Gallente Solarflare Heavy Industries	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:47:00 - [86] Edited by: TCL987 on 20/08/2009 17:53:21 Edited by: TCL987 on 20/08/2009 17:52:55 Originally by: Nur AlHuda It was confirmed that it will be on xbox and ps3. There is the news posted in some of these threads. And achievemtns of those players will switch soveregnity of 0.0 alliances. DUST will not be the only way to claim Sov, it will only be part of claiming Sov. Which means if you really don't want to hire DUST players you don't have to but you'll only make it harder for yourself in EVE. Originally by: Generalissima Originally by: CCP Fallout Heya, just wanted to clear the air here: EVE Online's expansions will continue to be free. DUST is not an expansion to EVE Online. Yes it is. It's going to be part of EVE, it's going to affect things IN EVE, it's going to be required as part of Sov holding. Unless you all have changed your minds on that (and I hope so). Your statement is a lie that isn't going to hold up. Just because it has an effect on EVE doesn't mean it is an expansion. Which means you won't get DUST for free but you will get the part where it ties into EVE for free as that part will an expansion.
Anhur Shu Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:49:00 - [87] Originally by: Sobach A long time ago a CCP Dev wisely said something along the line of: "When given any information, EVE players will automatically assume the worst possible outcome". Let's see here so far the facts are: -Dust 514 is set in the EVE universe -Dust 514 will have some sort of yet-to-be-announced effect on the yet-to-be-announce new Sov. mechanic. -Dust 514 will be released for console(s).... so far after being processed by said EVE player's brain filters, somehow it all turn out to be: -Dust 514 IS EVE!!!111!one It's a secret expansion that they're charging us for!!! -Dust 514 WILL DECIDE TH3 FATE OF 0.0!!!!11! BUNNY HOPPING 12YR OLDS WILL BE THE BANE OF US ALLLLLL -DUST 514 is x360 ONLY, CCP is forcing us to buy a new console and pay for a new subscription zomgwtf!!! Did I miss anything? now THIS is funny...ROFL...sooo true I don't care if I suck, so shut the hell up!
Sophia Truthspeaker Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:51:00 - [88] Edited by: Sophia Truthspeaker on 20/08/2009 17:54:46 Originally by: CCP Fallout Heya, just wanted to clear the air here: EVE Online's expansions will continue to be free. DUST is not an expansion to EVE Online. It isn't? So all that planetary interaction as seen in the drawing board will come? Dust player will play in a diffrent universe (same background story) with no interaction to us eve player? I think someone stated, CCP will try to make eve a complete scifi packet where anything you could thing of in a scifi way would be a possible gaming style, wasn't there such a statement? Dare I say promise? While I really suck at fps games, I always had the impression that one day I could do so in eve, if I so choose. Edit: So I'd really like a clarification. What is considered Eve? Is the whole universe with all possible interactions Eve? Or is Eve Online only the spaceship part of Eve? Will piloting a fighter in a space shooter be an extra game? Will planetary goverment as an economy sim be an extra game? It is your game, your universe, but we shaped it, too. _________ The truth is out there
Farelle Gallente Deus Imperiosus Acies	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:53:00 - [89] can I sit in low orbit and drop ordance on the console kiddies? That is the important question imho.
Tippia Raddick Explorations	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:54:00 - [90] Originally by: Sobach -Dust 514 IS EVE!!!111!one It's a secret expansion that they're charging us for!!! -Dust 514 WILL DECIDE TH3 FATE OF 0.0!!!!11! BUNNY HOPPING 12YR OLDS WILL BE THE BANE OF US ALLLLLL -DUST 514 is x360 ONLY, CCP is forcing us to buy a new console and pay for a new subscription zomgwtf!!! Did I miss anything? -DUST 514 IS WIS!! So we're not getting it in EVE and I feel cheated on the addition I never wanted because WiS is ghay!!1 It's an important one — especially the self-defeating logic bit! ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki

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