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Bhaal	Posted - 2004.10.12 01:57:00 - [31] I just think that being the type of game EVE is, it will never be able to draw too many of the mainstream USA gamers. EVE is a niche MMO, that is almost like work, not fun. Americans work very hard, and when they play, they expect more instant gratification and action than EVE is capable of offering. CCP could have a huge marketing campaign in the USA, but it would actually probably net them less than desirable results for what it costs them. EVE reminds me of Amiga computers, more widely accepted in Europe than in the USA as a viable PC. Americans did not embrace the Amiga as Europe did, and I think it's the same with EVE. Most of us want something a little bit different than what EVE has to offer. More fun, less work... Less intellectual, and more action. EVE is at it's peak right now I believe. More MMO's will be coming out in the near future, and EVE will only get older, graphics will get stale, and the grass will be greener on the other side cause EVE has too many painfull timesinks, and loss is too great when you "die" compared to other games. CCP should just worry about making the best game possible for the next 2 years for it's current player base (+/-5000 ppl), and start thinking about a new game to launch in 2 years time if they still want to be in buisness... All it will take is for another MMO company to take the EVE skill system, and make a game more suitable to the mainstream US playerbase, and bang, CCP loses a bunch of subscribers. ------------------------------------------------ "for piece sakes!"
Bhaal	Posted - 2004.10.12 01:57:00 - [32] I just think that being the type of game EVE is, it will never be able to draw too many of the mainstream USA gamers. EVE is a niche MMO, that is almost like work, not fun. Americans work very hard, and when they play, they expect more instant gratification and action than EVE is capable of offering. CCP could have a huge marketing campaign in the USA, but it would actually probably net them less than desirable results for what it costs them. EVE reminds me of Amiga computers, more widely accepted in Europe than in the USA as a viable PC. Americans did not embrace the Amiga as Europe did, and I think it's the same with EVE. Most of us want something a little bit different than what EVE has to offer. More fun, less work... Less intellectual, and more action. EVE is at it's peak right now I believe. More MMO's will be coming out in the near future, and EVE will only get older, graphics will get stale, and the grass will be greener on the other side cause EVE has too many painfull timesinks, and loss is too great when you "die" compared to other games. CCP should just worry about making the best game possible for the next 2 years for it's current player base (+/-5000 ppl), and start thinking about a new game to launch in 2 years time if they still want to be in buisness... All it will take is for another MMO company to take the EVE skill system, and make a game more suitable to the mainstream US playerbase, and bang, CCP loses a bunch of subscribers. ------------------------------------------------ "for piece sakes!"
Nukeitall	Posted - 2004.10.12 01:58:00 - [33] Originally by: Der Ewige The reason why CCP don't selle any copys of eve in the USA is that the EVE is to complicated for teh average USA mmorpg player. Market analyses have shown that US gamers dont want to spend any time in learning a game. Everything that needs more than 5 minuts of work to understand is to much for them. ^^ That was so profoundly stupid it made my brain hurt.
Nukeitall	Posted - 2004.10.12 01:58:00 - [34] Originally by: Der Ewige The reason why CCP don't selle any copys of eve in the USA is that the EVE is to complicated for teh average USA mmorpg player. Market analyses have shown that US gamers dont want to spend any time in learning a game. Everything that needs more than 5 minuts of work to understand is to much for them. ^^ That was so profoundly stupid it made my brain hurt.
Frank Horrigan	Posted - 2004.10.12 03:03:00 - [35] hey crice long time no see still hate me? anyway that is true what you say. My friend jesse took me on vacation with him and we took a trip to the mall around there and he said "heres the game I was playing before we left" I sat there reading the box for about an hour then bought it, got home instaled it, and well a new chapter in my life opened up Eve is something I will remember for the rest of my life. Every small detail of it too! if eve online wanted to get more subscirbers a simple comercial on tv would do quite good, or ask a store to put up a poster or something.... now that we have all these changes from about a year ago when i got it... it feels way more complete. I usualy watch g4techtv all day.. if i am home, be nice to see a review of eve online or something on there hehehe that would get a ton of new members... Originally by: Oveur Originally by: Bhaal What has turned out better than expected? Everything. Remember, we're from Iceland. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This i
Frank Horrigan	Posted - 2004.10.12 03:03:00 - [36] hey crice long time no see still hate me? anyway that is true what you say. My friend jesse took me on vacation with him and we took a trip to the mall around there and he said "heres the game I was playing before we left" I sat there reading the box for about an hour then bought it, got home instaled it, and well a new chapter in my life opened up Eve is something I will remember for the rest of my life. Every small detail of it too! if eve online wanted to get more subscirbers a simple comercial on tv would do quite good, or ask a store to put up a poster or something.... now that we have all these changes from about a year ago when i got it... it feels way more complete. I usualy watch g4techtv all day.. if i am home, be nice to see a review of eve online or something on there hehehe that would get a ton of new members... Originally by: Oveur Originally by: Bhaal What has turned out better than expected? Everything. Remember, we're from Iceland. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This i
Trevedian	Posted - 2004.10.12 03:04:00 - [37] Originally by: Der Ewige The reason why CCP don't selle any copys of eve in the USA is that the EVE is to complicated for teh average USA mmorpg player. Market analyses have shown that US gamers dont want to spend any time in learning a game. Everything that needs more than 5 minuts of work to understand is to much for them. ^^ rofl Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
Trevedian	Posted - 2004.10.12 03:04:00 - [38] Originally by: Der Ewige The reason why CCP don't selle any copys of eve in the USA is that the EVE is to complicated for teh average USA mmorpg player. Market analyses have shown that US gamers dont want to spend any time in learning a game. Everything that needs more than 5 minuts of work to understand is to much for them. ^^ rofl Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
Weston McArthur	Posted - 2004.10.12 03:52:00 - [39] This is my first MMORPG, and will probably be my last. The draw for me is space and big ships, and the freedom. The problem with marketing is getting people over the pay-to-play. I rarely, if ever, find myself playing a game for more than two months, and they sell for what, $50-60 now? I paid that for my subscription and I've been playing the whole time. However some (most?) people don't see it that way, or are more concerned about being able to replay in the future. Getting off topic though... I wonder of CCP has given thought to making a single-player counterpart to this game. Perhaps an offline code, with a storyline? Maybe even a compressed timeline with events that have gone by, both CCP and player driven. Dunno, just sort of a desire of mine. Of course it wouldn't be anytime SoonTM, what with all the Shiva code and nerfing that will have to take place.
Weston McArthur	Posted - 2004.10.12 03:52:00 - [40] This is my first MMORPG, and will probably be my last. The draw for me is space and big ships, and the freedom. The problem with marketing is getting people over the pay-to-play. I rarely, if ever, find myself playing a game for more than two months, and they sell for what, $50-60 now? I paid that for my subscription and I've been playing the whole time. However some (most?) people don't see it that way, or are more concerned about being able to replay in the future. Getting off topic though... I wonder of CCP has given thought to making a single-player counterpart to this game. Perhaps an offline code, with a storyline? Maybe even a compressed timeline with events that have gone by, both CCP and player driven. Dunno, just sort of a desire of mine. Of course it wouldn't be anytime SoonTM, what with all the Shiva code and nerfing that will have to take place.
Spruance	Posted - 2004.10.12 03:58:00 - [41] I agree with Weston I like the space genre. I've tried Horizons and am doing WoW beta but I really don't care for the first person shooter games. I'm hoping for a beta invite to Pirates of the Burning Sea. Still EVE has space and a big galaxy its what I love. As for marketing in the US we don't have it. I remember after beta waiting at the mall at 10am to pickup my two copies of Eve. Not many people knew about it even the guys at the Electonics Boutique. Considering Eve offers so much a decent advertising campaign would imo drastically increase US subscriptions. Reginald Spruance III CEO Libertas Enterprises
Spruance	Posted - 2004.10.12 03:58:00 - [42] I agree with Weston I like the space genre. I've tried Horizons and am doing WoW beta but I really don't care for the first person shooter games. I'm hoping for a beta invite to Pirates of the Burning Sea. Still EVE has space and a big galaxy its what I love. As for marketing in the US we don't have it. I remember after beta waiting at the mall at 10am to pickup my two copies of Eve. Not many people knew about it even the guys at the Electonics Boutique. Considering Eve offers so much a decent advertising campaign would imo drastically increase US subscriptions. Reginald Spruance III CEO Libertas Enterprises
MooKids	Posted - 2004.10.12 04:24:00 - [43] Originally by: Kel Shek Quote: Most of us US guys, just get in the car and head down to the local retail outlet and check out what is new on the shelf. I don't buy the magazines like PCGamer. Most retail outlets will let you come in and promote your game. really? I've NEVER approached PC games in this way... Funny you should mention that because that is EXACTLY how I found out about EVE in the first place. I am from the US and the first time I saw EVE was at a local Best Buy that had some copies on the shelf. This was back in Summer of 03. I was intrigued by it, looked it up online, saw it was interesting and a bit more serious than the "kiddie" Earth and Beyond (no offense ex-E&Bers). Now when I go to Best Buy, I see copies of Everquest, DAOC, Planetside, even Anarchy Online, but no EVE! Not everyone has a subscription to PC Gamer or Computer Gaming World, but lots of people go to the stores to browse and they see these interesting games on the shelves and start wondering about them. I am aware that the game can be downloaded, but you need to have people find out about you first. The whole downloading games (legally) thing is relatively new and the developers would still have to release hard copies of it. I bet that even if Valve had the option to break the contract with Vivendi penalty free, they would still release Half-Life 2 as a hard copy and not just on Steam. Then again, maybe it is because CCP never found another publisher after that thing with Simon and Schuester ended a while back. Would be really nice if a PR person could respond. And Ewige, **** off. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity.
MooKids	Posted - 2004.10.12 04:24:00 - [44] Originally by: Kel Shek Quote: Most of us US guys, just get in the car and head down to the local retail outlet and check out what is new on the shelf. I don't buy the magazines like PCGamer. Most retail outlets will let you come in and promote your game. really? I've NEVER approached PC games in this way... Funny you should mention that because that is EXACTLY how I found out about EVE in the first place. I am from the US and the first time I saw EVE was at a local Best Buy that had some copies on the shelf. This was back in Summer of 03. I was intrigued by it, looked it up online, saw it was interesting and a bit more serious than the "kiddie" Earth and Beyond (no offense ex-E&Bers). Now when I go to Best Buy, I see copies of Everquest, DAOC, Planetside, even Anarchy Online, but no EVE! Not everyone has a subscription to PC Gamer or Computer Gaming World, but lots of people go to the stores to browse and they see these interesting games on the shelves and start wondering about them. I am aware that the game can be downloaded, but you need to have people find out about you first. The whole downloading games (legally) thing is relatively new and the developers would still have to release hard copies of it. I bet that even if Valve had the option to break the contract with Vivendi penalty free, they would still release Half-Life 2 as a hard copy and not just on Steam. Then again, maybe it is because CCP never found another publisher after that thing with Simon and Schuester ended a while back. Would be really nice if a PR person could respond. And Ewige, **** off. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity.
Precusor	Posted - 2004.10.12 04:38:00 - [45] Originally by: Weston McArthur Getting off topic though... I wonder of CCP has given thought to making a single-player counterpart to this game. Perhaps an offline code, with a storyline? Maybe even a compressed timeline with events that have gone by, both CCP and player driven. Dunno, just sort of a desire of mine. Of course it wouldn't be anytime SoonTM, what with all the Shiva code and nerfing that will have to take place. have you given x2 a try? http://www.egosoft.com/index.php hope am not breaking any rules.
Precusor	Posted - 2004.10.12 04:38:00 - [46] Originally by: Weston McArthur Getting off topic though... I wonder of CCP has given thought to making a single-player counterpart to this game. Perhaps an offline code, with a storyline? Maybe even a compressed timeline with events that have gone by, both CCP and player driven. Dunno, just sort of a desire of mine. Of course it wouldn't be anytime SoonTM, what with all the Shiva code and nerfing that will have to take place. have you given x2 a try? http://www.egosoft.com/index.php hope am not breaking any rules.
Mervent	Posted - 2004.10.12 04:47:00 - [47] Edited by: Mervent on 12/10/2004 04:52:33 I am a US player who likes online games. After getting tired of SWG and AO, I went to http://www.mmorpg.com/ after doing a google search of MMORPG. I saw eve and saw that they were offering a 14-day trial and have been here ever since. I really would not worry about advertising. The people who would like eve if they tried it, will find it soon enough on their own or from one of their friends.
Mervent	Posted - 2004.10.12 04:47:00 - [48] Edited by: Mervent on 12/10/2004 04:52:33 I am a US player who likes online games. After getting tired of SWG and AO, I went to http://www.mmorpg.com/ after doing a google search of MMORPG. I saw eve and saw that they were offering a 14-day trial and have been here ever since. I really would not worry about advertising. The people who would like eve if they tried it, will find it soon enough on their own or from one of their friends.
MysticNZ	Posted - 2004.10.12 06:26:00 - [49] EVE is all word of mouth. I have gotten about 10 people in New Zealand to register and play this game. All love it. I think CPP should advertise more, this game is awesome, so many people don't know about it. I also think there should be a reward system for getting people to sign up, maybe every person you get adds a free 10 days to your account or something. :) (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
MysticNZ	Posted - 2004.10.12 06:26:00 - [50] EVE is all word of mouth. I have gotten about 10 people in New Zealand to register and play this game. All love it. I think CPP should advertise more, this game is awesome, so many people don't know about it. I also think there should be a reward system for getting people to sign up, maybe every person you get adds a free 10 days to your account or something. :) (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Mojo JoJo	Posted - 2004.10.12 07:10:00 - [51] i tried alot of stores tring to find a copy of eve as a second account...i found one copy at a used games shop a lil hole in the wall place best buy had the guide compusa had the guide mirco center had nothing ebgames said it got pulled they had the guide also no game no point in adverts if store's dont even carry it
Mojo JoJo	Posted - 2004.10.12 07:10:00 - [52] i tried alot of stores tring to find a copy of eve as a second account...i found one copy at a used games shop a lil hole in the wall place best buy had the guide compusa had the guide mirco center had nothing ebgames said it got pulled they had the guide also no game no point in adverts if store's dont even carry it
Dufas	Posted - 2004.10.12 07:52:00 - [53] Edited by: Dufas on 12/10/2004 07:56:04 Originally by: Der Ewige The reason why CCP don't selle any copys of eve in the USA is that the EVE is to complicated for teh average USA mmorpg player. Market analyses have shown that US gamers dont want to spend any time in learning a game. Everything that needs more than 5 minuts of work to understand is to much for them. ^^ atleast we know how to spell 'the' eve was in the stores..still have the box w00t
Dufas	Posted - 2004.10.12 07:52:00 - [54] Edited by: Dufas on 12/10/2004 07:56:04 Originally by: Der Ewige The reason why CCP don't selle any copys of eve in the USA is that the EVE is to complicated for teh average USA mmorpg player. Market analyses have shown that US gamers dont want to spend any time in learning a game. Everything that needs more than 5 minuts of work to understand is to much for them. ^^ atleast we know how to spell 'the' eve was in the stores..still have the box w00t
Borgonaheim	Posted - 2004.10.12 08:16:00 - [55] It wouldn't surprise me if not marketing was a corporate decision. Imagine an extra couple of thousand players rushing to log on over the period of a week or two. I don't know how well the server would cope. The extra stress with all those new simultaneous players would no doubt increase lag, thus ruining the gaming experience for the regulars. I'm all for alot more players - imagine 20,000 of us on at once, but not at the expense of gameplay reliability.
Borgonaheim	Posted - 2004.10.12 08:16:00 - [56] It wouldn't surprise me if not marketing was a corporate decision. Imagine an extra couple of thousand players rushing to log on over the period of a week or two. I don't know how well the server would cope. The extra stress with all those new simultaneous players would no doubt increase lag, thus ruining the gaming experience for the regulars. I'm all for alot more players - imagine 20,000 of us on at once, but not at the expense of gameplay reliability.
Myko	Posted - 2004.10.12 09:09:00 - [57] Originally by: Dufas atleast we know how to spell 'the' shame about colour, valour, visualise, centre (and others) Originally by: Google Did you mean: americanized words Word of mouth is far more effective than expenditure on marketing IMHO, and I don't honestly think eve would have many more subscribers than it currently has due to the early problems it faced with lag etc.
Myko	Posted - 2004.10.12 09:09:00 - [58] Originally by: Dufas atleast we know how to spell 'the' shame about colour, valour, visualise, centre (and others) Originally by: Google Did you mean: americanized words Word of mouth is far more effective than expenditure on marketing IMHO, and I don't honestly think eve would have many more subscribers than it currently has due to the early problems it faced with lag etc.
Shadowsword	Posted - 2004.10.12 09:27:00 - [59] I have the impression that since that game pretty much require broadband access (how many players use a dial-up modem?), most ppl download the game instead of buying it. That way CCP just has the server cost to pay, and can propose Eve download for less money (no intermediates to pay).
Shadowsword	Posted - 2004.10.12 09:27:00 - [60] I have the impression that since that game pretty much require broadband access (how many players use a dial-up modem?), most ppl download the game instead of buying it. That way CCP just has the server cost to pay, and can propose Eve download for less money (no intermediates to pay).

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