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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.20 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Corozan Aspinall Funny how all these console haters own consoles. But they don't use them, honest.
I <3 my ps3 but I don't own a single ps3 game for it. I use it as my livingroom internats terminal and blu-ray player. Well I do have a few arcady shooty games I got from the online store but I don't count those as a true ps3 game. As far as a console for fps games well if ccp is smart they will have mouse and keyboard support added in to the game. That way console gamers can just go out and buy a super cheap usb kb/mouse combo and be competitive vs the pc players.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.20 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: nails Edited by: nails on 20/08/2009 17:47:45
Originally by: AngelFood Evidently 'sony' or some other noob money oriented entertainment corporation has got its claws into ccp
maybe
If anyone was paying out money it would be Microsoft, they have been tossing money out like toilet paper in an attempt to buy out sony's entire exclusivity market. Sony on the other hand, has been sitting back and doing what they always do. They haven't been very aggressive with game contracts, instead focusing on the PS3's future. one of these days people will realize that the xbox still runs on DVD, and can only run games at 720p.
Indeed. From what I can tell the 360 has about reached its development potential but the ps3 has barely even pushed the lower limits of what it is capable of doing. I mean a guy linked 8 ps3 together into a honest to god supercomputer that outperforms the huge exspensive commercial rigs. Try that with a 360.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.20 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Naj Ymoch Hard-drives, mice, keyboards... how is this not a dumbed-down computer? What is the point anymore of continuing these? Even PCs themselves can run into your TV now. Newer consoles are only a way of suckering an insane amount of money out of a gamer who doesn't want to be labeled a 'geek' or 'loser' by owning a PC.
Because a $300 console at launch is the equivalent of the current $1000 gaming rig. Try to play high quality games on a $300 computer.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.20 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Bidermaier
Originally by: Zeba Because a $300 console at launch is the equivalent of the current $1000 gaming rig. Try to play high quality games on a $300 computer.
Welcome to 2009. Any ****y graphic card under $99 will beat any console. Also console games are more expensive. Also its nice to know that in a few years you wont need to rescue a machine from a closet to replay a game.
That only applies to people who already have a pc. I challenge you right now to go out and find a brand new $300 pc that performs the same as a ps3 for games. Ain't happening.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.21 05:04:00 -
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Originally by: Kravick Drasani
Originally by: Zeba Because a $300 console at launch is the equivalent of the current $1000 gaming rig. Try to play high quality games on a $300 computer.
The PS3 was $600 at launch. Its $300 now. I know they have different HD sizes and configurations (one of the "low end" PS3s has certain games that don't work on it or something) that have varying prices.
Still, $300 is a far cry from the $600 they actually where. Consoles when they released didn't even have state of the art graphics cards. A cheap ass $99 graphic card now spanks any console on the market now. IMO, consoles are for people who are too stupid to operate a computer or those who want platform specific titles (like Smash Brothers for the Wii).
Point still stands. Try building a complete gaming rig that runs current games for $300. CoD4 on a 360 hooked up to an hdmi hdtv looks and plays just like cod4 on a pc.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.21 05:20:00 -
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Originally by: Shevar I can put together a 300 dollar box that can run CoD4 fluently in 1024x600. **** I can buy a second hand computer for half that and still run it fluently.
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/22/call-of-duty-4-not-hd-only-600p-claim-pixel-counters/
So now you are stuck with a computer that fails at worst or is adequate at best as a current gaming platform when the 360 will still be able to field current games for years to come due to its lower resolution and dedicated efficient hardware. This isn't even taking into consideration the ps3 which is vastly underused in total graphics potential by current developers due to the difficulty in getting the most out of the system whilst still beating the 360 into the dust.
Also please link to that pc build.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.21 06:11:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 21/08/2009 06:11:23
Originally by: Shevar The 360 is using 4 year old PC hardware it really isn't very efficient in the sense as you proclaim it to be.
The 360 might have 4 year old hardware but as it is seamlessly integrated you can get alot moar out of it as it ages than you can a pc card.
Originally by: Shevar Show me a single true HD title (as in running 1920x1200 or 1920x1080 NAIVELY) that doesn't stutter or looks like **** on any console.... Even crappy looking titles such as Wipeout HD (take a look at the awesome complex texturing in this screen shot for example http://www.digitalfoundry.org/blogfiles/wipeout1920-1.jpg) need to downscale to prevent stuttering.
Well as far as the ps3 stuttering I run it in 1080p mode on my lg70 and all the game demos I have tried ran flawlessly with no stuttering so dunno what you are talking about. Hell at times I think it plays smoother than my near current rig with the 9800gtx+ oc.
Originally by: Shevar As for a link to a 300 dollar/euro system that can run COD4 with the same details as an Xbox360 (actually more then that even);
https://www.afuture.nl/artikel.php?id=1531
If you would build it yourself you can stay at the 300 euro ballpark (and yes even with the crap dollar 1 euro is still 1 dollar when it comes down to buying computer stuffs, especially if you order at a shop that is located in another US state since you won't have to pay taxes).
Thats a barebones system with no input devices or display. Add those in and see how much it costs. Also with the nvidia 9500 it will be chugging with any truely current games as cod4 isn't the most demanding game around and the reason I used it as an example. Not all pc games or console games are omg cutting edge and don't need the latest and greatest gpu to run it. People on a budget know this and just get a console to browse the web or chat and play games.
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