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ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.30 22:05:00 -
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Fact: Eve Online has grown year on year for 9 years continuously
Myth: Eve Online is dying
FACT: Everything in Eve Online has a direct relationship to PVP
Myth: PVP is just shooting ships
FACT: For 0 inflation x needs to equal y where is x is sandcastles built and y is sand castles stomped
Myth: Building my own resources all by myself has no effect on anybody else
FACT: There are limited resources in Eve Online
Myth: Doing my own PVE does not take away opportunities from others
FACT: Emergent game play is a pillar of Eve Online's development and lore.
Myth: CCP should control player style
FACT: Eve Online high security space has been getting progressively safer for 36 months (since Apocrypha expansion)
Myth: Eve Online high security space is unplayable due to danger levels.
FACT: Inferno/Crucible changes restore the balance and tension between player styles that dominated Eve Online 2007-2009
Myth: Suicide ganking is too easy and has no consequences.
FACT: Every dog has its day and every dog will will fade away
Myth: CCP is owned by one alliance.
FACT: The playerbase needs to HTFU.
Myth: Eve Online is getting harder.
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ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.30 22:10:00 -
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Kiteo Hatto wrote:Myth:Goons are creating EMERGENT GAMEPLAY.
FACT:EVE online is now GRIEF online.
M0O did things that goons never could. |
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.30 23:11:00 -
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Talon SilverHawk wrote:ModeratedToSilence wrote:Kiteo Hatto wrote:Myth:Goons are creating EMERGENT GAMEPLAY.
FACT:EVE online is now GRIEF online. M0O did things that goons never could. Except they did it with style, and its m0o. Myth : Goons are creating EMERGENT GAMEPLAY. Fact: Goons are filling there coffers Tal
Emergant gameplay as I perceive it is any gameplay that expands or alters the perimeters of normal gameplay styles.
1. It does not matter who creates emergant game play - it is created
2. It does not matter why players create emergant gameplay |
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.30 23:16:00 -
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Nostradamouse Riraille wrote:
Fact: The game needs carebears for the economy.
Myth : The game does not need nullbears for the economy.
Come on, all this stuff is required. Both griefers and carebears
Also : myth: Hulkageddon is unavoidable, you will die to griefers while mining.
Fact just go into a quiet system and STFU?
Please explain why the game needs carebears and nullbears. Please note to facilitate a clear and consice explanation the definitions of the terms nullbears and carebears need to be clarified. |
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.31 00:34:00 -
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Nostradamouse Riraille wrote:There are absolutely 0 material obsolescence, ships don't wreck themselves, they do not break down, they do not need to go for mechanical checkups every 12 months, they simply lay there, completely ignoring the test of time. They will last forever.
This brings us to the point of the evergrowing ammount of hulks and heavy duty ships like those in high security areas that simply won't die if nobody provokes it. It is quite obvious that you won't lose a ship by bumping an iceberg...
So, for this reason, those ships invulnerability need a fix for the production of such ships to continue. The fix required for this are the griefers. This is why griefers are required. Griefers make the economy run as well as the carebears are by building the stuff that gets blown up.
And ****, do I really have to define null seccers, carebears and griefers? Learn those yourself.
Get real guys, it is the way of the eve economics. Ships need to be build and blown up for the economy not to fall to the ground.
See the blowing up of your ship as "planned obsolescence". Same thing your damn washing machine's manufacturer did when he sold it to you. It's probably why it's leaking all over the floor atm.
QFT
For life to grow and blossom it needs death.
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ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.31 02:31:00 -
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lanyaie wrote:
Fact: you are a butthurt npc alt not revealing his real main account name.
Heh.
Na my main is permabanned from posting here. Has been for a long long time. I am not butt hurt. I am currently enjoying the increasing climate of fear that some in high sec are embracing. |
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.31 07:47:00 -
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Torvin Yulus wrote:Im glad I do level 2 missions so I cant get ganked now.
Just ignore the ninjas.
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ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.31 09:14:00 -
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Infected69 wrote:ModeratedToSilence wrote:
Fact: Eve Online is dying
Myth: Eve Online has grown year on year for 9 years continuously
8 months ago, when i last went afk i was logging into 45k+ people online, now since i have been back its lucky if there is over 20k.
1. Numbers online when you want to be online =/= subscriptions
2. In 2007 30000 online was a big deal
3. in 2005 20000 online was a big deal
4. Its summer in the northern hemisphere
5. A bunch of summer games have just been released |
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.31 09:31:00 -
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Infected69 wrote:ModeratedToSilence wrote:Infected69 wrote:ModeratedToSilence wrote:
Fact: Eve Online is dying
Myth: Eve Online has grown year on year for 9 years continuously
8 months ago, when i last went afk i was logging into 45k+ people online, now since i have been back its lucky if there is over 20k. 1. Numbers online when you want to be online =/= subscriptions 2. In 2007 30000 online was a big deal 3. in 2005 20000 online was a big deal 4. Its summer in the northern hemisphere 5. A bunch of summer games have just been released Tbh dont care about subscriptions, The actual lack of people playing is more representative of eve dying, not ccp's income.
That discounts point 1 in what some would argue is a legitimate manner - a point I can see but not really agree with. What about points 2-5
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ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
68
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Posted - 2012.05.31 09:58:00 -
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ACE McFACE wrote:ModeratedToSilence wrote:
FACT: There are limited resources in Eve Online
Myth: Doing my own PVE does not take away opportunities from others
Because once you mine asteroids, they don't come back after downtime!
Yes because they are gone entirely until downtime. An organised mining crew could strip a system out every day thus forcing other players to mine else where.
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ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.31 10:16:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote:ModeratedToSilence wrote:ACE McFACE wrote:ModeratedToSilence wrote:
FACT: There are limited resources in Eve Online
Myth: Doing my own PVE does not take away opportunities from others
Because once you mine asteroids, they don't come back after downtime! Yes because they are gone entirely until downtime. An organised mining crew could strip a system out every day thus forcing other players to mine else where. Doesn't even have to be organized. My last corp I was with in highsec ran random mining ops with at most 10 people, and we would strip out 2-3 belts in a 5 hour period.
So an organised group could engage in industrial pvp by logging in just after DT and stripping belts. |
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.01 00:11:00 -
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Skelf Scunner wrote:ModeratedToSilence wrote:Fact: Eve Online has grown year on year for 9 years continuously
Myth: Eve Online is dying
Fact: Eve grew year on year until january 2011 (not 9 years) Myth: CCP know where they are going
What level are subs now? What level were subs at in January 2011? |
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