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Superfailsauce
Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2009.08.22 21:29:00 -
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Supporting this as well... This blatant abuse of the system must stop. ------- Larkonis' Alt, main got banned. |
Cyrus Doul
Nictus Astartes
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Posted - 2009.08.22 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Dr BattleSmith Sure ban by IP address.
1 AOL user = Most AOL users. 1 Saudi = all Saudis 1 Chinese = all Chinese.
You can not ban by IP, many people on many networks share their public IP with others.
wikipedia did it to quatar or however that one is spelled. some kid at school was modding pages with dumb content and a mod caught and banned him. the whole country runs though a super NAT
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Airtight Alibi
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Posted - 2009.08.22 21:50:00 -
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Just wanted to complain about unfair forum bans.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2009.08.23 03:40:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Draconis
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah This, and people that got a forum ban should not be able to run for CSM and be kicked out if they get a ban during their term.
Nothing personal to Larkonis and Darius though.
CSMs just should have exemplary behaviour, just like you're not allowed to run for politician if you have a criminal record.
Have you ever podded anyone?
Oh ok... Your're fired!
Well you said anyone with a criminal record..and podding people is breaking CONCORD law in a sense.
(anyone get my point yet?)
Hell why stop there... pirates too!
Please... use head before you speak.
Hey, Drake, knock it off before you give her any ideas. Really, you have to remember who you're talking to here
Originally by: Vaden Khale
Originally by: Ankhesentawhateverthe****hernameis This, and people that got a forum ban should not be able to run for CSM and be kicked out if they get a ban during their term.
I totally agree! Real life politicians would never break the law! Oh, Bill Clinton dodged the draft and committed perjury, hmm, that New York mayor was into prostitution, and Ted Kennedy killed someone and got away with it, then got elected to forty some odd years of the Senate. What a mockery of justice!
Now now, he wasn't the mayor, he was the governor. That makes it alright, doesn't it?
Seriously, it's actually really funny how many bigshot politicians are crooks in one way or another. Usually minor stuff you wouldn't hear about if they weren't important(the Premier of Alberta plagiarizing essays in a college course he was taking on the side, say), but that are nonetheless hilarious, and indicative of how all of our role models should act.
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Special Projects Executive
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Posted - 2009.08.23 05:45:00 -
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You can't even trust a dead politician, since we keep electing them. --Vel You're killing me Smalls!
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Jared D'Uroth
Minmatar Universal Peace Operation
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Posted - 2009.08.23 05:51:00 -
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Edited by: Jared D''Uroth on 23/08/2009 05:51:59
Originally by: Liiza Valora
Solution: Your ban in my opinion should be based on your internal IP address, otherwise the person banned will be able to create multiple secondary characters and use the forums circumventing the ban.
First off, this is hidden NSPTA hate. I know it.
Second, I love it when people who don't understand computers attempt to talk tech.
Oh noes. Not my internal IP address!
Honestly, do a little bit of research. Most IPs are dynamic, so you can't really IP ban anyone. Plus, proxy servers. You have a mistaken idea of what an IP address is and how they work.
IP ADDRESSES IMA ***** U M8
Why is haxor edited out? ===
Quote: I think the point [of t3] was that your foes would never know how you were fit, adding the element of surprise. Like, surprise!!! I decided to go with EHP and DPS.
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Vaden Khale
Amarr Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.23 09:22:00 -
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Originally by: Jared D'Uroth Edited by: Jared D''Uroth on 23/08/2009 05:51:59
Originally by: Liiza Valora
Solution: Your ban in my opinion should be based on your internal IP address, otherwise the person banned will be able to create multiple secondary characters and use the forums circumventing the ban.
First off, this is hidden NSPTA hate. I know it.
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Verizana
Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.23 17:18:00 -
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Supported, great idea.
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Hoo Is
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Posted - 2009.08.25 17:20:00 -
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I too hate people who get around forum bans by paying an extra $15 for another account.
---- a reply which adds nothing to a thread or results in a thread being bumped with no new discussion worthy content is considered spam and as such warrants a forum ban |
XoPhyte
Black Nova Corp
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Posted - 2009.08.25 18:00:00 -
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Edited by: XoPhyte on 25/08/2009 18:01:55
Originally by: Liiza Valora Solution: Your ban in my opinion should be based on your internal IP address
I'm sure you mean external address here. Internal would be something like 10.1.1.x /24 or 192.168.0.x /24 (or even 8 or 16 bit masks). Long story short, if you banned someone from their internal address you would essentially ban 90% of eve (besides, the internal is natted anyway therefore you could not detect it for the website).
Perhaps you mean their MAC address? However MAC addresses are not contained within the packet headers, therefore you could not detect the originating MAC address from the website (again same problem as above).
External would be a bit more practical but not much. If you ban the 32 bit address (a single IP address), then the person can simply reconnect to their ISP and most likely get a new IP (since most do not use static). If you ban a subnet, as others have indicated before, you would end up banning multiple people from Eve. Ie, in the US a lot of people use Comcast. Baning Comcast would then prevent a lot of users from playing.
And really anyone can just use a proxy server to bypass this restriction.
Sorry, not supported. I like the idea, there is just not practial way to implement it though.
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Cheekything
Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.
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Posted - 2009.08.25 18:16:00 -
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Better solution make it so you need to have 2 months of paided active game time (aka non-trail accounts) to post on most forum areas.
Leave this away from a set area for new players to ask questions and let them read the other areas.
$40 and 2 month to spam and get banned sounds like fun.
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XoPhyte
Black Nova Corp
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Posted - 2009.08.25 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Cheekything Better solution make it so you need to have 2 months of paided active game time (aka non-trail accounts) to post on most forum areas.
Leave this away from a set area for new players to ask questions and let them read the other areas.
$40 and 2 month to spam and get banned sounds like fun.
Thats actually not a bad idea.
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Ms Leonora
Leonora Corporation
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Posted - 2009.08.25 20:39:00 -
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The wording of the OP is a bit off but yeah I agree that someone who has received a forum ban should not be able to create a similarly named alt for the purposes of forum posting. Unfortunately IP addresses are mostly dynamic and MAC address bans could be gotten around by spoofing the MAC address or simply using another network adapter. There definately should be something in place to prevent "obvious alt posts" though.
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Liiza Valora
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2009.08.26 17:49:00 -
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this is not a troll or a flame or directed at any one person. This thread is a legitimate proposal. This thread is not the place for paranoia and assumptions. This is a topic i feel needed to be proposed and looked at for the greater good of the eve community.
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Caldinea
Core Contingency Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.27 22:46:00 -
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I support this idea 100%. Abuse of a system for the sake of trolling or harrassment in any format is wrong and should be dealt with strongly.
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Ykatni
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.28 16:07:00 -
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Simple solution is to download the Greasemonkey plugin for Firefox and grab the CAOD script. You can ignore users, corps and alliances, which puts the tools in your hands and not CCP's.
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Anderson Williams
Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.29 06:32:00 -
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I believe this, 100% supported.. No people should be tough on the Eve forums.. or posting when Banned. Its tootally and super super inappropriate and unprofessional. Guys im super serial here.. this is Eve online.. Internet spaceships.. Serious Buisness.
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis The Space P0lice
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Posted - 2009.08.29 06:46:00 -
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Curse those evil forum ban evading infidels (ingame)! *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats |
Irongut
H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.31 13:35:00 -
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Not feasible.
Ban by external IP address? Just reboot router for a new one.
Ban by internal IP or MAC address? They aren't available to the forum web server and even if they were it takes 10 seconds to change them.
If you dislike trolls just ignore them.
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W3370Pi4
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Posted - 2009.09.11 02:23:00 -
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Epona Thunderhoof
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Posted - 2009.09.11 06:23:00 -
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Originally by: Liiza Valora Solution: Your ban in my opinion should be based on your internal IP address, otherwise the person banned will be able to create multiple secondary characters and use the forums circumventing the ban.
"Internal" network address? Sure, you can ban 192.168.100.104 from the forums. Since it is a Non Routable Address, nothing will happen. The forums never see that address.
As others have mentioned, NAT, proxies, and dynamic IP addresses all turn this idea into a complete fail. It simply doesn't work. You will wrongly ban more people than intended, and the desired effect will fail for many. Other people have tried this in the past, and it simply doesn't work.
Wouldn't it suck, for example, if your friend came over, jumped on your machine, posted some crap on the forums, and had your IP addressed put on the ban list? Hmm, you know, that sounds like a great idea. I'm sure that GoonSwarm can do something "creative" with this.
People who support this topic, including the OP, simply don't understand how TCP/IP works.
I'm sorry that the forums make you feel sad and angry and hurt your feelings, but this isn't a good way of fixing that problem.
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Heroldyn
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Posted - 2009.09.11 06:59:00 -
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is this really an issue ?
do you guys really care if someone who got banned from the forums enables himself to keep posting ?
or is this some 'i wanne be forum mod when i grow up' contest ?
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