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nat longshot
New Eden Inc.
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Posted - 2012.05.31 07:20:00 -
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ok people i grow tried of the whole risk of ganking vs isk or what ever gain you get from it.
U get ganked you have kill rights on the guy that ganked you wait unill hes in a costly ship hunt him down and kill him have friend there to rr your sry butt and take him down.
ya he can shot back be more then likey u will take him by suprise and you'll get the upper hand. Use the damn kills rights you have and make his loss worth more to you then he take a double hit for ganking you.
Now move on.
i used my kills rights long ago to pay some jerk that ganked me and i kick his butt and he was 3 years old vs my 6 month old char when i went after him but i learned one thing never afk autopilot in a faction frig from jita.
Now stop your crying and use you damn kill right or stop crying make them buy double what you lost GOD DAMN. |

Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
197
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Posted - 2012.05.31 07:31:00 -
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You don't have to read the forum if you don't like it. Your petulant little demand will not change one single post. |

Kehro Urgus
Aliastra Gallente Federation
355
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Posted - 2012.05.31 07:38:00 -
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Someone got ganked.  I found a dead cat on the side of the road so I -átook it home and put some honey on it and cooked it and then I ate it. Is that bad? do do do dooo... GÖ¬ GÖ½
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nat longshot
New Eden Inc.
21
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Posted - 2012.05.31 07:39:00 -
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Ban Bindy wrote:You don't have to read the forum if you don't like it. Your petulant little demand will not change one single post.
This post is to remind people that seem to forgot you get kill rights if your ganked in high sec. |

Tor Gungnir
Agenda Industries
124
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Posted - 2012.05.31 07:42:00 -
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Really now, realistically, what are the odds that a High-Sec miner will have the ship/mods/skills to be able to hunt down his aggressor? Slim to null. Gallente is what America believes itself to be.
Caldari is how America is in reality. |

nat longshot
New Eden Inc.
21
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Posted - 2012.05.31 07:52:00 -
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Tor Gungnir wrote:Really now, realistically, what are the odds that a High-Sec miner will have the ship/mods/skills to be able to hunt down his aggressor and having a chance to survive the encounter?
Slim to null.
oh really iam a orca and a hulk pilot as well and have the skill needed to take on anyone solo. Anyone with one yesar in game should have skill for that.
But i gave up mining for the fact it sucks.
Btw 70 mil sp i know i have the skill to handle it but i have over 4 years in game. even a 6 month old can take on older player ive done it just have to know what your doing. |

Tor Gungnir
Agenda Industries
126
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Posted - 2012.05.31 07:53:00 -
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nat longshot wrote:Tor Gungnir wrote:Really now, realistically, what are the odds that a High-Sec miner will have the ship/mods/skills to be able to hunt down his aggressor and having a chance to survive the encounter?
Slim to null. oh really iam a orca and a hulk pilot as well and have the skill needed to take on anyone solo 2 years in game should have skill like that. But i gave up mining for the fact it sucks.
/faceplam Gallente is what America believes itself to be.
Caldari is how America is in reality. |

nat longshot
New Eden Inc.
21
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Posted - 2012.05.31 07:58:00 -
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Tor Gungnir wrote:nat longshot wrote:Tor Gungnir wrote:Really now, realistically, what are the odds that a High-Sec miner will have the ship/mods/skills to be able to hunt down his aggressor and having a chance to survive the encounter?
Slim to null. oh really iam a orca and a hulk pilot as well and have the skill needed to take on anyone solo 2 years in game should have skill like that. But i gave up mining for the fact it sucks. /faceplam as for doing what i have said most players will cry about it and not do anything but cry. If your a male player grab your balls first make sure they are there and attack the person. If your a woman act like you have a pair and do the same. |

Tor Gungnir
Agenda Industries
126
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Posted - 2012.05.31 08:00:00 -
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nat longshot wrote:Tor Gungnir wrote:nat longshot wrote:Tor Gungnir wrote:Really now, realistically, what are the odds that a High-Sec miner will have the ship/mods/skills to be able to hunt down his aggressor and having a chance to survive the encounter?
Slim to null. oh really iam a orca and a hulk pilot as well and have the skill needed to take on anyone solo 2 years in game should have skill like that. But i gave up mining for the fact it sucks. /faceplam as for doing what i have said most players will cry about it and not do anything but cry. If your a male player grab your balls first make sure they are there and attack the person. If your a woman act like you have a pair and do the same.
Will you give them a free character with two years worth of skill training to do it? Because I'd wager my left nut that most of the victims are relatively new players who have trained mostly, if not only, for mining and don't have any combat skills worth a damn. Gallente is what America believes itself to be.
Caldari is how America is in reality. |

nat longshot
New Eden Inc.
21
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Posted - 2012.05.31 08:07:00 -
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Tor Gungnir wrote:nat longshot wrote:Tor Gungnir wrote:nat longshot wrote:Tor Gungnir wrote:Really now, realistically, what are the odds that a High-Sec miner will have the ship/mods/skills to be able to hunt down his aggressor and having a chance to survive the encounter?
Slim to null. oh really iam a orca and a hulk pilot as well and have the skill needed to take on anyone solo 2 years in game should have skill like that. But i gave up mining for the fact it sucks. /faceplam as for doing what i have said most players will cry about it and not do anything but cry. If your a male player grab your balls first make sure they are there and attack the person. If your a woman act like you have a pair and do the same. Will you give them a free character with two years worth of skill training to do it? Because I'd wager my left nut that most of the victims are relatively new players who have trained mostly, if not only, for mining and don't have any combat skills worth a damn.
ive seen much older chars ganked in belts just i think most are eather scared or really dont care. its the younger players that need to grow a pair. like i said in one of my replys get a freind to help out with RR. |

gfldex
531
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Posted - 2012.05.31 08:09:00 -
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Sadly the bots don't come with a PvP routine. When someone burns down your sandcastle, bring sausages. |

Tor Gungnir
Agenda Industries
126
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Posted - 2012.05.31 08:10:00 -
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nat longshot wrote:[
its the younger players that need to grow a pair. like i said in one of my replys get a freind to help out with RR.
There's just no reasoning with you is there?
Gallente is what America believes itself to be.
Caldari is how America is in reality. |

Tobiaz
Spacerats
553
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Posted - 2012.05.31 08:14:00 -
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Most people ganking miners are generally not flying around a lot in shiny Incursion ships or such. Nor do most miners have the necessary skills to take them on.
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Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
183
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Posted - 2012.05.31 08:25:00 -
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Tor Gungnir wrote:nat longshot wrote:Tor Gungnir wrote:nat longshot wrote:Tor Gungnir wrote:Really now, realistically, what are the odds that a High-Sec miner will have the ship/mods/skills to be able to hunt down his aggressor and having a chance to survive the encounter?
Slim to null. oh really iam a orca and a hulk pilot as well and have the skill needed to take on anyone solo 2 years in game should have skill like that. But i gave up mining for the fact it sucks. /faceplam as for doing what i have said most players will cry about it and not do anything but cry. If your a male player grab your balls first make sure they are there and attack the person. If your a woman act like you have a pair and do the same. Will you give them a free character with two years worth of skill training to do it? Because I'd wager my left nut that most of the victims are relatively new players who have trained mostly, if not only, for mining and don't have any combat skills worth a damn.
If someone joins a game whose main advert is that it is violent and unsafe, and then proceeds to behave as if it is a single player mining game, why in the hell should they be given any special treatment? First things first, you learn basic combat skills, then you get in to your mining ship, then you train more combat skills, rinse and repeat until you are a proficient miner with decent combat skills.
CCP, WHEN AM I GOING TO GET MY CORP BACK? KINDA WANT MY STUFF BACK FROM THE HANGARS. |

Tor Gungnir
Agenda Industries
126
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Posted - 2012.05.31 08:29:00 -
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Cutter Isaacson wrote:
If someone joins a game whose main advert is that it is violent and unsafe, and then proceeds to behave as if it is a single player mining game, why in the hell should they be given any special treatment? First things first, you learn basic combat skills, then you get in to your mining ship, then you train more combat skills, rinse and repeat until you are a proficient miner with decent combat skills.
Who said anything about special treatment? Take your rage somewhere else.
Gallente is what America believes itself to be.
Caldari is how America is in reality. |

nat longshot
New Eden Inc.
21
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Posted - 2012.05.31 08:40:00 -
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the whole point in this post was to remind people that have been ganked you can go after them and try to kill them.
ganker take that risk of ganking you and then have the add risk of you comeing back and killing them.
thats my whole point i claim my kill rights and yes i have ganked 3 miners my whole in eve did any of them try to claim it no but they could have tryed.
so thats my point.
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Tor Gungnir
Agenda Industries
126
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Posted - 2012.05.31 08:43:00 -
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nat longshot wrote:the whole point in this post was to remind people that have been ganked you can go after them and try to kill them.
ganker take that risk of ganking you and then have the add risk of you comeing back and killing them.
thats my whole point i claim my kill rights and yes i have ganked 3 miners my whole in eve did any of them try to claim it no but they could have tryed.
so thats my point.
And your point is entirely nullified by my argument that your average victim can't take up arms against his ganker because unlike you he doesn't have 2 years worth if skill training so he can both fly mining ships and combat ships well enough.
There is a reason why miners are being exclusively targeted, y'know. Gallente is what America believes itself to be.
Caldari is how America is in reality. |

nat longshot
New Eden Inc.
21
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Posted - 2012.05.31 09:33:00 -
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Tor Gungnir wrote:nat longshot wrote:the whole point in this post was to remind people that have been ganked you can go after them and try to kill them.
ganker take that risk of ganking you and then have the add risk of you comeing back and killing them.
thats my whole point i claim my kill rights and yes i have ganked 3 miners my whole in eve did any of them try to claim it no but they could have tryed.
so thats my point.
And your point is entirely nullified by my argument that your average victim can't take up arms against his ganker because unlike you he doesn't have 2 years worth if skill training so he can both fly mining ships and combat ships well enough. There is a reason why miners are being exclusively targeted, y'know.
my point in not nullified show me the stats that show most are young players. i know many 3 years or older players have been ganked.
It not just miners eather t2 bs pilots are getting gank in greater numbers then they have before i have a corp member that lost a golem to 10 destoryers its not just a miner's problem.
Did my corp member deside to hunt down the destoryer pilots no he did not if he had i would have undocked my rr and my alt rr so he could he desided "ok move on" thankfull hes loss was only t2 gear no faction mods.
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Tor Gungnir
Agenda Industries
127
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Posted - 2012.05.31 09:44:00 -
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If people are flying stuff like T2 Battleships I don't think they need you to tell them that they can fight back.  Gallente is what America believes itself to be.
Caldari is how America is in reality. |

Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
68
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Posted - 2012.05.31 09:46:00 -
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I love it when their drones auto-aggro back ;..; |

Mistress Cruelheart
Hedion University Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.05.31 09:53:00 -
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Clearly you arent a regular miner - most gankers are -10 sec, all they do is grab a destroyer from station or an orca, warp in to their scout alt, gank some miner, then warp the pod back to station. Repeat every 15 mins.
How exactly is someone going to gank him back in a nice expensive ship to get even? |

nat longshot
New Eden Inc.
24
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Posted - 2012.05.31 09:53:00 -
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Thor Kerrigan wrote:I love it when their drones auto-aggro back ;..;
thats why mine are set passive hahah
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nat longshot
New Eden Inc.
24
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Posted - 2012.05.31 09:55:00 -
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Mistress Cruelheart wrote:Clearly you arent a regular miner - most gankers are -10 sec, all they do is grab a destroyer from station or an orca, warp in to their scout alt, gank some miner, then warp the pod back to station. Repeat every 15 mins.
How exactly is someone going to gank him back in a nice expensive ship to get even?
last i checked iam now a 3.5 sec standing.
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=16008061 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=15815869
and no most are not -10 |

Mistress Cruelheart
Hedion University Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.05.31 09:58:00 -
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I suggest you try checking the leader board of Hulkageddon V. The dedicated gankers who are the real problem for miners are all -10. |

Skorpynekomimi
205
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Posted - 2012.05.31 09:59:00 -
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Oh, but you do get kill rights if you're ganked. At least in lowsec, and if you don't aggress back.
Oh, hey, that reminds me. I have kill rights on the guy who popped my industrial a while back. I should go make use of that. |

nat longshot
New Eden Inc.
24
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Posted - 2012.05.31 09:59:00 -
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Mistress Cruelheart wrote:I suggest you try checking the leader board of Hulkageddon V. The dedicated gankers who are the real problem for miners are all -10.
easy fix dont mine with 5-6 jumps of a low sec exit.
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Mistress Cruelheart
Hedion University Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.05.31 10:06:00 -
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The dedicated gankers dont live in low sec so that is an irrelevence.
They dock up in the system where the miners are and emerge in there catalysts and thrashers only to gank.
The kill rights are an irrelevence because you can always shoot them as they are -10, they just arent ever flying anything worth blowing up to get even later on which was the point of your OP.
At best you can pod them and make them buy a new inexpensive clone. |

Don Davis
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.05.31 10:45:00 -
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Tobiaz wrote:Most people ganking miners are generally not flying around a lot in shiny Incursion ships or such. Nor do most miners have the necessary skills to take them on.
Kill-rights will only become useful if they no longer stupidly expire after 30 days, allow podkilling, are transferable to 'bounty-hunters' and will be tied into a new bounty system based on loss-value.
Yeah CCP should make the killrights transferrable. Something like a killrights market, this way bountyhunting would become a reasonable profession. |

My Postman
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
49
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Posted - 2012.05.31 11:03:00 -
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Will you please be so kind to tell me how i should do that:
Getting ganked in a hulk, ok so. My Arazu might be 3 jumps away, so i go to pick it up. Coming back to ganking site, check if my friend is still in local. Checking belts or probing.
Finding my friend blowing his catalyst up with my Arazu. Getting concorded, as 15 min timer is over by 30 mins.
My loss: 1 hulk, 1 arazu His loss: 2 catalysts
Any thoughts? |

nat longshot
New Eden Inc.
25
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Posted - 2012.05.31 21:10:00 -
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My Postman wrote:Will you please be so kind to tell me how i should do that:
Getting ganked in a hulk, ok so. My Arazu might be 3 jumps away, so i go to pick it up. Coming back to ganking site, check if my friend is still in local. Checking belts or probing.
Finding my friend blowing his catalyst up with my Arazu. Getting concorded, as 15 min timer is over by 30 mins.
My loss: 1 hulk, 1 arazu His loss: 2 catalysts
Any thoughts?
1 use a loaction agent to get the location of your target. 2 bring help 3 enjoy catching him off guard for the fact no ever really claims there kill rights you will catch him off guard. 4 kill rights are good for 30 days plain your attack just like he did be smart about think before you act or you will not catch him of guard. |
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