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CCP Fallout	Posted - 2009.08.24 20:31:00 - [1] Apocrypha 1.5 brought with it many new things, among which are four new Epic Arcs. CCP Jasonitas clues us in on what they are, and gives some tips on how to run these exciting new missions in his newest dev blog. Fallout Associate Community Manager CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us

Trenjeska Chumly Incorporated Space Exploration and Logistic Services	Posted - 2009.08.24 21:06:00 - [2] Edited by: Trenjeska on 24/08/2009 21:07:08 I really do hope it is not THAT high in pure faction standing requirements... I do have some 9 or 8 with some corporations, but as I dont want to go below -2 for any faction, it is hard to get above 5 with one... Edit: any faction = empire factions for me.
Aranis Nax Minmatar Seraphim Blades	Posted - 2009.08.24 21:22:00 - [3] Edited by: Aranis Nax on 24/08/2009 21:22:05 nice change of pace from regular BOOOORRING missions but tbh the minmatar epic arc wasn't all that epic. And the only branch in it that I could see was the choice of getting the special reward or not getting it, not much of a choice is it? Then there's the issue with it going to ammatar space, which can be an issue for longtime minmatar mission runners who got less then -5 standings with them(even with diplomacy 4-5)
Casiella Truza Ecliptic Rift	Posted - 2009.08.24 21:31:00 - [4] You don't actually need 6.8 to the faction, but to the first agent's corp (they don't check standings after that). The Minmatar arc, for example, starts off with the Brutor tribe, so you really just need 6.8 for them. I had hoped this devblog would tell us a little more about upcoming arcs, particularly those that might involve the so-called "pirate factions" (e.g. Angel Cartel, Sansha Nation, The Syndicate, etc.). If the arc starts off with someone else then goes there, perhaps this could help as part of a fix to the faction standings hole (get below -4 and you will never work for that faction again). -- EVE Blog EVE Twitter
Ratuu Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.08.24 22:19:00 - [5] Genuine question, which probably has an answer that is obvious to everyone else but me, but where do we go to get these arcs started I like the sounds of them, and will definitly give them a go if I qualify to get them offered. I think its good that the Devs are developing all aspects of the game and not just catering to the rich and the famous that are the 'hardcore' pvp'ers. That said, I hope that they push the arc missions out to the pirate factions. It will be a nice twist of those that live purely in 0.0 and do missions 'out there' get offered part of an arc that sends them into hostile territory.
Herschel Yamamoto Agent-Orange	Posted - 2009.08.24 23:00:00 - [6] I haven't done the epics myself - don't have the standings for any of the starter agents. That said, from what I've read about them, you made a slight miscalculation with your rewards. All but one of them are more or less vendor trash, the sort of items that nobody this side of Entity could get excited about, or else laughably small sums of isk. The last one is a faction version of an item that sells from NPCs for 90 million(the Hyasyoda Mobile Laboratory), and as such can be expected to be worth probably a couple hundred mil going forward. So I guess I have to ask - is there a reason the Caldari epic gives you a reward at least ten times as valuable as any of the others?
Sakaane Eionell Gallente The Golden Phoenix Inc.	Posted - 2009.08.24 23:03:00 - [7] Woohoo! I am very excited for these. Running regular missions solo does get boring (especially when the same ones get offered again and again); running them with friends a bit less so. Having something to pursue that is more along the lines of "choose your own adventure" (story branching) with an ongoing plot to keep the brain engaged is something I have been hoping for ever since I started playing, and I look forward to more epic arcs of varying degrees of difficulty (level 2, level 3) and varying degrees of flavor. Thank you!
Typhado3 Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Aeternus.	Posted - 2009.08.24 23:33:00 - [8] \o/ more things to do when I should be working on assignments. ------------------------------ Just a crazy inventor ccp fix mining agent missions % pls
Vyktor Abyss Gallente The Abyss Corporation Abyss Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.24 23:49:00 - [9] Edited by: Vyktor Abyss on 24/08/2009 23:50:49 Definately more fun than running normal missions. I've only just started the Gallente one, but certainly like the non-expiry too. Have you thought about Epic Archeology / Hacking / Salvaging arcs? Definately for Archeology it would be a great feeling that you're really headed somewhere with your researches, learning all about the culture and history of those pesky Wang Chungs.
Jei'son Bladesmith The Storm Knights The Cool Kids Club	Posted - 2009.08.24 23:57:00 - [10] Originally by: Typhado3 \o/ more things to do when I should be working on assignments. PREACH ON MAH BROTHA!! \o/
FugginNutz Caldari Trolls From Outer Space	Posted - 2009.08.25 01:25:00 - [11] How does one get the epic arc? Random? Only once? Every so many missions?
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2009.08.25 03:54:00 - [12] Just seen a list of the rewards in the mission form. Sorry, but they are not epic. They are LOUSY. You have so many nice items in the database, +6 or +7 attribute implants, the DED skillbook etc. But instead we get some blue pills for example ... and you call it epic.
Deva Blackfire D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.08.25 04:06:00 - [13] Wait wait wait. So if i do amarr arc (or caldari) i wont screw up my standings to gall/min?
Garr Anders Minmatar Thukk U	Posted - 2009.08.25 07:22:00 - [14] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Just seen a list of the rewards in the mission form. Sorry, but they are not epic. They are LOUSY. You have so many nice items in the database, +6 or +7 attribute implants, the DED skillbook etc. But instead we get some blue pills for example ... and you call it epic. I guess they'll answere this with: "Nothing is keeping your from doing the other epic arcs ..." Yay, for following the ingame "immersive" story and sticking to one side of the war..... :-( . But yes, some slightly shinier rewards would have been nice (BPCs of faction navy anyone?). ----- Garr Anders "The only winning move is not to play" is about the best damn advice anyone can get regarding arguing over the internet. - referring to the Movie WarGames 1983
Atiana Obaani Tomoe Laboratories Celestial Imperative	Posted - 2009.08.25 09:32:00 - [15] Your use of the word "Unique" when it comes to items that are rewarded is a lie. So stop doing that. The storyline in these missions however, is a rather awesome kind of awesome. So keep it up.
Winters Chill Amarr Shadow Legion. Maru Ka'ge	Posted - 2009.08.25 09:58:00 - [16] This customer is satisfied. Keep up the good work - I'm looking forward to more.
Eleana Tomelac Gallente Eclats de verre	Posted - 2009.08.25 11:35:00 - [17] I began the Amarr epic arc, and, I could notice that what you call veteran is really dangerous people! It makes a change to the usual low DPS, not so long range NPC BS. It cut my friend's ishtar to structure in a few shots and hurts badly my absolution, that's kind of a huge change. The green crewed ones where just lol, after the spanking we take from veterans, seeing the lot of them is kinda frightening, and then there's the relief of seeing they are really green crew... -- Fanfest memories : I looked in your eyes And I found the galaxy Now I'm stuck in eve.
something somethingdark	Posted - 2009.08.25 11:35:00 - [18] 1) could have used more testing on the test server but that was a problem because of ... 2) the agent that gets you going is in some random useless corp nobody is going to have lots of standings for and most of us prefer to not get shot in other empires space 3) most of the EPIC rewards are EPIC fail
Nidhiesk	Posted - 2009.08.25 11:49:00 - [19] Question to the dev: Will there ever be an epic mission that requires to have negative standings with a certain corp ? For example. Im with the Caldari, I would love (or hope) to be able to start an epic arc mission that requires me -2.0 for example against Gallente because.. ??!!?? well caldari hates gallente from a story perspective. As you can see the possibilities are endless with this. on another note, its a good thing those npc's hurt more and theres less. I like it. Finally my raven can take a good beating....Im afraid to say it but I like it. And for the people who wants epic arc in null sec. Well its not the best alternatives but some missions (at least in the caldari version) can bring you to null sec. I go through a sling shot bubble and 1 huge arse bubble .. lol, that was fun.
Tester128	Posted - 2009.08.25 12:14:00 - [20] 1. Pack your bags. Be expected to travel through different regions, constellations, and systems. New Eden is a big place: This is your chance to explore part of the universe and to poke at EVE's hidden corners, the nooks and crannies of deep space. Does this mean that you will have to travel 8 jumps every mission just to get to that deadspace complex? Yes. YouÆll have to every few missions and itÆs absolutely not necessary from the storyline point of view. Of course the remote mission offer and completion works when you are near the agent, but for sure if you have to go 10 jumps away the guy will want to see you in person. 2. If you have good standing (or at least, non-negative standing) with a particular faction, try the arc. That will not be an obstacle for you. Yes sure, the standings barrier is quite high and you need either faction standings or standings for some obscure corporation. 3. Ebb and flow. We have designed these missions to be the equivalent difficulty of level 4 missions. However, this will not just be wave after wave of battleships and elite cruisers waiting for you after each gate. Yes, the majority of them missions are exactly that. 4. Into the void. Branching provides us an opportunity to offer different play styles within each story without forcing any one upon the player. Branching points are few and far between. 8. Just desserts. You will be rewarded for your actions. We'll make sure of that. Lots of ISK? You betcha. Cool modules and equipment to use and play with? Yep. We didn't forget about those. I won't tell you exactly what we have in store, but I can tell you that each of the four arcs has at least one unique reward. Some may have more, based on the ending you choose or the path you take. You may have to do some nefarious things in order to get the sweet loot, but that's all a part of the epic arcs experience. A few isks? Yes ofc. Useless modules? Yep.
Pytria Le'Danness	Posted - 2009.08.25 14:08:00 - [21] I was extremely offended by the way the Gallente epic arc is built. I quit it after half a dozen mission because it forces my character to fire on allies and refugees left and right. As Pottsey put it "We have no lead, so kill some random innocent people until they talk". This happened after the first choice in the arc - all information I was given was "Low sec/illegal dealings or High sec/legal missions". So I went on the path of a mass murderer - after chosing the branch described as following the law. This only seems to happen on the Gallente arc, which also has the crappiest reward ever - I admit that I am not sure if the 700k m¦ counterfeit credits the Minmatar get have been exchanged for something serious by now. But yeah, a module giving you 2km extra drone control range that is stamped with the Federation's own SS trademark certainly is worth slaughtering countless refugees and innocent Federation citizens. By the way the point to quit was when the agent told my (Intaki) character that all Intaki are criminals and need to get killed, so go to that Intaki village and blow it up. I remember a time when CCP at least pretended they are impartial towards the various factions. But their latest actions convinced me that they are firm supporters of the Caldari faction and anyone stupid enough to follow anyone else will get burned as he has to fight a war against the people making the very game rules. CCP already has heard my opinion on that. I don't support someone who treats me and the views I've decided to represent in game unfairly. Epic arc? No. Epic reason to quit EVE. former Intaki roleplayer, cured from this by CCP
Niniel Cerva	Posted - 2009.08.25 15:34:00 - [22] It might have been said before, but there should be a lvl 1 epic, lvl 2 epic etc :) Would give you something to strive after :D
IVeige	Posted - 2009.08.25 17:56:00 - [23] Originally by: something somethingdark 3) most of the EPIC rewards are EPIC fail Quote for truth.
Miyamoto Uroki Caldari 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2009.08.25 18:14:00 - [24] Rewards are simply laughable, considering these are lvl 4 arcs and meant to be played by more experienced players. Who decides on these items? Ask the guys who are playing this game, and dont take it from your experience of your "regular play" as devs.. For me, it could have been a bit more story. For an epic arc it wasnt that epic tbh. Branching only happens once? ONCE?.. Remember that huge picture of your concept of epic arcs? afaik there were FAR more than 2 or 3 lines. Where are the consequences? Everything goes without consequences? Oh nice, really... like the poor mission runners really cant be threated with negative consequences in any way, no we cannot do that.. And for the game design, with scripted sequences in complexes and stuff.. dont tell me that even one full time guy worked on it. I'm pretty sure I could do a better job in months of work if you give me a fiction writer to assist.. and I'm not even a freaking game designer at all.. Sad to say, but imho CCP lost its vision. It's all about how to attract more and more customers to pay. Of course that's usual business, but you guys seem to have lost your love for the project. Otherwise you would have realized that eve could do better really.. harsh words, but thats only because I was here from the beginning and saw how much you cared about this game. Still best game out there, but it doesnt get better at the moment, quite the opposite.
Sade Onyx	Posted - 2009.08.25 22:51:00 - [25] hmm, you like the word 'dramatic' dont you? Dramatic in an Eve mission = More walls of text. /yawn People play games to see dramatic, not read it. Let me know when there are cut scenes, voice narrative or video.
Zex Maxwell Caldari	Posted - 2009.08.26 02:35:00 - [26] Hmm, Caldari arc sounds interesting. if I do RP, Zex is a exiled Caldari navy soldier. luckily he did not get a hole in his head. but maybe if i do an arc, he might be forgiven... so he thinks.
Maria Kalista Amarr Splinter Foundation	Posted - 2009.08.26 03:11:00 - [27] I remember from last fanfest how Oveur showed this MASSIVE branching out structure for epic arcs. And I also remember he saying something about GREAT rewards at the end of them. What happened CCP? It took too long to complete, it didn't fit in a SPRINT so you chopped half off of it? Originally by: Jacharian This sounds like a bad idea. I'm in.
HeliosGal	Posted - 2009.08.26 10:19:00 - [28] yeah rewards are yawn sounds like another rushed lacking reward ccp job again, oh and its not pvp so it must be shafted
something somethingdark	Posted - 2009.08.26 10:38:00 - [29] Edited by: something somethingdark on 26/08/2009 10:38:40 Originally by: HeliosGal yeah rewards are yawn sounds like another rushed lacking reward ccp job again, oh and its not pvp so it must be shafted nah some of the rewards are actualy unique so somebody made them up the guy who made the up however didnt stop to think that a regular 5% implant is stronger than 2% and 2% and youd have to be poor or silly to choose the 2 and 2 over the 5 etc
Vaneshi SnowCrash	Posted - 2009.08.26 11:44:00 - [30] Originally by: Maria Kalista I remember from last fanfest how Oveur showed this MASSIVE branching out structure for epic arcs. And I also remember he saying something about GREAT rewards at the end of them. What happened CCP? It took too long to complete, it didn't fit in a SPRINT so you chopped half off of it? Yeah, I'm not saying they whipped half of it away but from all the hype I had this big immersive thing in my head that'd take weeks of dedicated time to play through revealing some great insight in to the faction you were playing for. Instead, despite being in a CNR whooping all kinds of L4's I get the finger despite a 4.4 with GalFed and a solid 9+ with FedNavy... and the whole thing looks like a bit meh in terms of rewards and play length. On the other hand the reports of certain missions eating ships makes me smile.
Eleana Tomelac Gallente Eclats de verre	Posted - 2009.08.27 12:07:00 - [31] Just finished the Amarr epic arc. I can say I enjoyed it, it was a pleasant, often chalenging experience. But... I didn't see much branching... I chose once not to go into lowsec, for two reasons : -I would have needed a smaller ship to get through gatecamps, and smaller ships have less firepower, I guess we would have needed to be 3 to get there with AF and do the job. -The agent was from true power : no, I won't be working for the sansha. I only kill the cybernetic zombies, I don't intend to be friend with them. Anyway, they hate me too (something around -8). Going to lowsec is a thing, working for sansha is something else. I didn't go check where the agent was placed in the lowsec system, but if it's a fixed beacon, it's the real great thing to camp. Rewards : -It was stated higher rewards for lowsec, but it looks like it's impossible to have higher rewards working for the Amarr? Higher rewards only if you get to work for pirates... Nah, I'll pass. -A friend started the gallente epic arc and I helped him on a few missions, the rewards were huge on several missions, around 5-7M, I've not seen this in any amarr missions, even the ones I was killing ships without bounties. -The final reward : a dual 2% armor/repair implant is... Weak? Yeah, weak, I'd rather use the one available on the market that will add 5% armor. Seriously, 2% (or any less than 5% in a specific area) is not the type of implant the players capable of running these missions use. Make it a dual 3% and it's a bit better, but a dual 4% would be rightfully called epic. -- Fanfest memories : I looked in your eyes And I found the galaxy Now I'm stuck in eve.
Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2009.08.28 08:21:00 - [32] Edited by: Pottsey on 28/08/2009 08:21:47 I hope you don't put all this down to just fanboys who are never happy. There are far too many unhappy people for that. "Cool modules and equipment to use and play with? Yep. We didn't forget about those. I won't tell you exactly what we have in store, but I can tell you that each of the four arcs has at least one unique reward." This is just one big joke. There are complaints after complaints. Many of the so called unique reward's are either useless, not worth it or worse than the normal rewards it's based on. Why pick a 2% shield recharge, 2% hitpoint implant in a low sec mission when a normal 5% hitpoint implant gives more HP regen and more hitpoints? (Unless I got the math wrong) Going from 80km to 82km, or 100km to 102km drone range is an extremely poor reward. Going by contracts most people are value that at 2milllion, hardly rewards worthwhile for an epic. Some of the Caldari rewards are worth 100+ million, some of the Ammar and Gallente rewards are worth 2million or only worth it for like 5 players who collect items. "The story forks: Do you want to risk your ship for the greater rewards of lowsec?" What went wrong? Some of the low sec rewards are worse than highs sec. "However, this will not just be wave after wave of battleships and elite cruisers waiting for you after each gate." What went wrong? For the Gallante arch that's pretty much all I had. It was warp in, aggro everything wait for drones to kill, move on. It was just wave after wave of battleships and elite cruisers waiting for you after each gate. Apart from one mission which was warp in, go though a gate over 20km away, I think it was repeat 3 times for 3 gates for what appears to be no reason, find out you need a salvager, fly 5jumps to get a salvager, fly back then wait as you fly though all pointless gates again. I don't have an issue's needing different modules. I have an issue with not knowing you need those modules with lots of 20km or more pointless gates. The Gallante epic arch has far to many pointless timesyncs. In short the Gallente story was very bad and the missions felt like standard level 4 missions with just waves of rats at gates with a very poor unique reward. There was no challenge either just warp in, aggro and wait. Apart from one exception no different styles of play in the path I took. Not to mention all the bugs, far too many at one point I got stuck for over 24hours due to bug. I also had the good guys in white ships not like my drones and start firing on my drones which in return blow up all the white good guys. At one point my drones killed the NPC I was ment to talk to as the agent shot my drones. Agents not wanting to talk to me without waiting hours at one point 24hours. Mission text repeated x3. One point I was offered over 5 branches for one mission, nice bug there. ______ How to Passive Shield Tank T2
something somethingdark	Posted - 2009.08.28 09:29:00 - [33] Originally by: Pottsey Epic wave of lvl4 mission and pointless timewasters etc. From the first anouncements of epic arcs bringing forth vast changes to the missioning system i was excited ... untill i tryd the first 2 missions of the first arc (the lvl1 one) from that point on it was evident that the only change was in conjunction with agent interaction overhaul (wich btw brought us an aditional click to turn in a mission .... ) and an aditional tab in the journal .... wuuuuu .... huuu.... neither is the art of storytelling something special ... its just more and more text that you have to click away emediatly to not die or just get borred of reading so much dribble after mission 10 its just not immersive but is that the fault of the guys who came up with the stories and cobbled the arcs together ? no .... they just lack the tools to do it propperly lots of text does not immersion make at least some voice reading in local that a taunts b and b says hes gona shoot a and after 2 seconds (i.e. the time it takes to load the deadspace area) you just see explosions and red/white things simply dissapear .... meh at the bare minimum the music should be paced to whats happening at the moment (that that requires sound people actualy want to turn on is a diffrent problem) a logical next step would be to have aura anounce certain things and nudge you along with a word now and again ... if they hadnt axed aura completly having audio chatter in missions can actualy do allot for imersion a "cutscene" needs more than a bit of text be it a window or local or whatever and 3 seconds of some icons pretending to shoot eachother till one half explodes and the other half vanishes having red icons sitting arround orbiting something and not reacting to anything into infinity is also obviously very very immersive sending somebody 10 jumps away to talk to an agent once wich arbitrarily cant be remotely talked to isnt a story device ether from a story perspective... giving somebody the choice to slaughter ... or to slaughter .... or to slaughter somebody completly diffrent in a far away place yeah ... awesome ... why dont i just run worlds collide 20 times for 2 diffrent agents i can fight sanshas and angels and sanshas and serpentis then ... thats just as interesting again i dont blame the writers or the people who brought it to live that much they cant do something "epic" without the necersary tools and in the eve pve case all you got is a selection of npcs and how many to dump in the room
Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2009.08.28 09:45:00 - [34] something somethingdark said "again i dont blame the writers or the people who brought it to live that much they cant do something "epic" without the necersary tools and in the eve pve case all you got is a selection of npcs and how many to dump in the room" CCP should have the tools, we keep getting new blogs along the lines of "we're very excited to have a number of new tools we can now really begin to put into use." "It may not seem like much, but from a story perspective, it opens up a ridiculous number of options-" Yet we never see anything new in game. Just the same old wave after wave of NPC's. Just when are we going to get decent PvE? Just when are we going to get decent missions or is it just wait for more blogs about more great tools that seem to have zero impact on missions. http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=650 ______ How to Passive Shield Tank T2
Dagobert Dog	Posted - 2009.08.28 10:55:00 - [35] Sounds really Nice, really. I would love to do one of the new epic arcs. But i will not grind hundreds of Level 4 missions just to get the required 6.8 faction standing. Sorry. No.
Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2009.08.28 14:24:00 - [36] Dagobert Dog said "But i will not grind hundreds of Level 4 missions just to get the required 6.8 faction standing. Sorry. No." It's not that bad, a few Cosmos missions and hand a few tags in for faction standings and you are pretty much already there. You might have to do a few missions but only a few. ______ How to Passive Shield Tank T2
something somethingdark	Posted - 2009.08.29 02:01:00 - [37] possible yeah exept for those of us who wish to safely traverse all empires those have to run a bunch of missions for some obscure corp as for the numerous blogs including shiney new tools yeah in detail they where just augmentations to existing possibilities hyped up like prety much everything has been hyped lately ... quantum rise comes to mind, with the 5 devblogs and a 10 minute video repeating over and over again how they created a single ship ....
I SoStoned Caldari	Posted - 2009.08.29 10:35:00 - [38] Originally by: CCP Jasonitas Epic players are not afraid of lowsec. *You can bet your sweet ass they are!* Epic players as the ones MOST afraid of lowsec. Not afraid, no, downright TERRIFIED. They're the ones in highsec hugging constellations with ZERO lowsec mission risk, they're still in their starter or other NPC corps, or they'll be sure to jump corp within hours of a war being declared. Epic players are carebears to the core, and any sniff of 0.4 to 0.1 will send them scuttling to more banal mission zones. 0.0, now, they're not so afraid of nullsec... but lowsec terrifies them like nothing else.
Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2009.09.01 06:29:00 - [39] Well it's been confirmed the low sec Sansha modified epic reward gives worse hitpoints and worse HP regen then the normal implant it's based on. I wonder if CCP will ever comment on all the problems with epic missions? Will the rewards get fixed? Are CCP even aware many of the rewards are useless and the low sec rewards like the Sansha one are worse than the high sec reward? ______ How to Passive Shield Tank T2
Soulspatch	Posted - 2009.09.01 10:48:00 - [40] Originally by: I SoStoned Originally by: CCP Jasonitas Epic players are not afraid of lowsec. *You can bet your sweet ass they are!* Epic players as the ones MOST afraid of lowsec. Not afraid, no, downright TERRIFIED. They're the ones in highsec hugging constellations with ZERO lowsec mission risk, they're still in their starter or other NPC corps, or they'll be sure to jump corp within hours of a war being declared. Epic players are carebears to the core, and any sniff of 0.4 to 0.1 will send them scuttling to more banal mission zones. 0.0, now, they're not so afraid of nullsec... but lowsec terrifies them like nothing else. Yeah, but missions runners have no real reason to spend much time in 0.0, CCP will not make it so alliances can install mission agents in their stations. As for the Amarr Arc, I've only done the first 4 missions so far and there is nothing to write home about. Over all rating = LAME
Kateryne Minmatar Nisaba Syndicate New Eden Retail Federation	Posted - 2009.09.01 16:16:00 - [41] The rewards need to be massively upped to make the epic arcs anything other than for harcore RPers. As it is, the caldari unique lab reward is the only one worth working towards. Please buff the rewards on all of these CCP, and possibly up the difficulty on some of the missions too.
Dav Varan	Posted - 2009.09.02 13:23:00 - [42] Caldari Arc: Penumbra Liking what I've seen so far. Actually lost a ship to NPC's cant remember the last time that happened. ( damn spider drones ) Hit a few problems with "The Breakout". 1) The mission description was a bit misleading. Have to find a plex in constelation Aokinen thats in a "low-sec" system. There are no low-sec systems in Aokinen the plex was actually in a 0.5 system which is high-sec 2) I used my "AC-106" key to get into the complex only to find out then that I needed a codebreaker fitted. No clue that this would be needed is given in the mission brief. After fetching a codebreaker I could no longer get back into the plex because my key had been consumed alleady :(
WheatGrass Gallente Silent but Friendly	Posted - 2009.11.19 02:51:00 - [43] What I've gathered from the posts here is that much disappointment exists in regard to the rewards. Please consider granting LP with the missions to lesson the disappointment. Why is LP Not given Originally by: Dagobert Dog .... i will not grind hundreds of Level 4 missions just to get the required 6.8 faction standing. Perhaps you will consider running missions for the corps instead. With maxed social skills, it doesn't take that long to get the necessary corp standings. I just finished running missions enough to allow me to run all four level four epic arcs. Having done that, I'm starting first with the Amarr arc, "Right to Rule". The first mission took my battle cruiser to a hair's breadth of destruction. I had to dock where reinforced bulkheads were available. Three of the tech II variety got my stucture up to 50%
SCGhozt	Posted - 2009.11.24 03:46:00 - [44] "Epic players are not afraid of lowsec." Whats so epic about jumping into a bunch of hungry wolfs? last i checked u had much bigger worries then gate camps. how about agent camp? >_>
WheatGrass Gallente Silent but Friendly	Posted - 2009.12.08 01:12:00 - [45] "All existent Epic Arcs, Blood Stained Stars, Penumbra, Right to Rule, Syndication, and Wilfire, will now provide faction standing bonuses associated with the chosen ending upon completion." -from the Dominion patch notes. Uh Oh! I wonder how much. Serious! How much of a faction standing bonus is granted upon completion of the various epic arc missions? I need to know whether or not to decline the last mission. Thank you.

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