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Torvin Yulus
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.31 22:11:00 -
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http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
As u can see theyre is a trend DOWNWARD. At the start of the graph there is 30,000 players and at the end of the graph ere is 12,000.
CCP must fix mining and end hyulkageddon because eve has lost over half its subscribers! |

Ituhata Saken
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
211
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Posted - 2012.05.31 22:12:00 -
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Had this discussion earlier today, the graph reads from right to left. You know what an answer is? It's a terminus -- an end. Answers are fine, but questions are where it's at. Questions bring us closer to understanding, -áthey can start a conversation or spark a revolution. So you might as well start asking... now.-á ~See you on the other side 6/6/12~ |

Implying Implications
Broski Enterprises
87
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Posted - 2012.05.31 22:12:00 -
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you cant read graphs stop deleting my posts |

Torvin Yulus
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.31 22:13:00 -
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Ituhata Saken wrote:Had this discussion earlier today, the graph reads from right to left.
lies. languages are read from left to right. |

NickyYo
StarHug
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Posted - 2012.05.31 22:14:00 -
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yep thread already exists about it m8, here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1395587#post1395587
Only way CCP can start to reverse this is by fixing the orca that ship is the root to all these recent quits.
And troll or not, i post this to derail your attempt! I have released a basic EVE Lottery Framework for you all you use to make lottery sites :) Check it out here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1333688&#post1333688 |

Jayrendo Karr
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
137
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Posted - 2012.05.31 22:14:00 -
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4/10 - decent attempt. |

Darth Tickles
Dark Sun Consortium
598
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Posted - 2012.05.31 22:25:00 -
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As funny as these threads are, who the **** makes backwards graphs?
seriously... |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1538
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Posted - 2012.05.31 22:28:00 -
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Darth Tickles wrote:As funny as these threads are, who the **** makes backwards graphs?
seriously...
backwards? it is constantly updated. "0 days ago" is properly on the origin.
also, OP, l2graph. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Price Check Aisle3
44
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Posted - 2012.05.31 22:29:00 -
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Jayrendo Karr wrote:4/10 - decent attempt. What are you talking about? This guy has consistently scored 0 since he appeared earlier this week.
Terrible attempt. |

Naraish Adarn
Fastfood for Fishies
13
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Posted - 2012.05.31 22:30:00 -
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Torvin Yulus wrote:http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
As u can see theyre is a trend DOWNWARD. At the start of the graph there is 30,000 players and at the end of the graph ere is 12,000.
CCP must fix mining and end hyulkageddon because eve has lost over half its subscribers!
yeah you might've bothered to hover your mouse over the peaks and you'd see year, month, date / player count so to quote my old math teacher "get your head out of your *** and you might actually see something" earlier data does indicate compared data showing normal variance of 5000 or so players which only indicates most people are out enjoying the early summer instead of playing loggin onto EVE. |

Darth Tickles
Dark Sun Consortium
598
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Posted - 2012.05.31 22:31:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:it is constantly updated.
Ah, i see.
ty
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Pesky LaRue
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
195
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Posted - 2012.05.31 22:35:00 -
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Torvin Yulus wrote:Ituhata Saken wrote:Had this discussion earlier today, the graph reads from right to left. lies. languages are read from left to right. Demonstrating your true troll natureDemonstrating you're really an idiot. |

Virgil Travis
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
303
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Posted - 2012.05.31 22:35:00 -
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Yes, we in the Unified Church of the Unobligated are deeply upset that so many who took this internet spaceship game so seriously have not only departed in their thousands but have also travelled backwards in time from the trauma of undocking. Those poor souls. Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method |

Selinate
944
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Posted - 2012.05.31 22:36:00 -
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actually, it does show somewhat of a declining trend compared to a year ago... |

Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
196
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Posted - 2012.05.31 22:37:00 -
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Torvin Yulus wrote:http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
As u can see theyre is a trend DOWNWARD. At the start of the graph there is 30,000 players and at the end of the graph ere is 12,000.
CCP must fix mining and end hyulkageddon because eve has lost over half its subscribers!
rolling back the inventory consolidation would be a great start. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |

Darth Tickles
Dark Sun Consortium
598
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Posted - 2012.05.31 22:41:00 -
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Selinate wrote:actually, it does show somewhat of a declining trend compared to a year ago...
the big drop you see from the peak is incarna, then the slow recovery from that
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Kara Books
Deal with IT.
146
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Posted - 2012.05.31 22:43:00 -
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Torvin Yulus wrote:http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
As u can see theyre is a trend DOWNWARD. At the start of the graph there is 30,000 players and at the end of the graph ere is 12,000.
CCP must fix mining and end hyulkageddon because eve has lost over half its subscribers!
about 30K people on right now, Umn, pass that stuff your smoking around
Get into a rokh, the buckets of tears you are shedding are feeding the gankers like nothing you could ever imagine. |

Selinate
944
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Posted - 2012.05.31 22:43:00 -
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Darth Tickles wrote:Selinate wrote:actually, it does show somewhat of a declining trend compared to a year ago... the big drop you see from the peak is incarna, then the slow recovery from that
Yes, I know, but you can still see it declining slightly right now. Not by a huge amount, but it is declining overall, and is slightly less than it was around the midpoint of the mass unsub over Incarna. |

Tanaka Sekigahara
United Space Marine Corp
109
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Posted - 2012.05.31 22:55:00 -
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Naraish Adarn wrote:Torvin Yulus wrote:http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
As u can see theyre is a trend DOWNWARD. At the start of the graph there is 30,000 players and at the end of the graph ere is 12,000.
CCP must fix mining and end hyulkageddon because eve has lost over half its subscribers! yeah you might've bothered to hover your mouse over the peaks and you'd see year, month, date / player count so to quote my old math teacher "get your head out of your *** and you might actually see something" earlier data does indicate compared data showing normal variance of 5000 or so players which only indicates most people are out enjoying the early summer instead of playing loggin onto EVE.
Ahh, and because you can read graphs, it said thats the reason for the decline ( a decline the OP noted,one you had not the grace to acknowledge, yet simply dismissed, with your own explanation.)
Next time you respond, how about you acknowledge the veracity of the OPs statement ( which you do seem to acknowledge) before you go positing possible explanations, instead of posing your explanation and then pretending it is supported by anything other than your opinion.
The graph does make clear there is a drop in activity. Anyone who claims there is an increase is a boldfaced liar. Anyone who claims that "the summer" is the reason is simply putting forward an opinion. The graph proves there is a decline in player activity, not why.
In short, if you want to join a discussion with intelligent people in the future, first acknowledge the facts, before you try and put your spin on them. |

Large Collidable Object
morons.
1506
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Posted - 2012.05.31 22:56:00 -
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Nobody misses bots. You know... morons. |

Darth Tickles
Dark Sun Consortium
598
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Posted - 2012.05.31 23:00:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Yes, I know, but you can still see it declining slightly right now. Not by a huge amount, but it is declining overall, and is slightly less than it was around the midpoint of the mass unsub over Incarna.
Ah, I see. Seems a little premature at this point, though I wouldn't be surprised if we do see a downturn between UI, summer, diablo 3 and bots. |

Karn Dulake
Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance
828
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Posted - 2012.05.31 23:04:00 -
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It starts at zero and then the limeys log in with the rest of the eurotrash.
Move forward a few hours and the reds all start paying the rent.
The later it peaks when the yanks and rebs get online
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion. |

Large Marg
University of Caille Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2012.05.31 23:24:00 -
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Torvin Yulus wrote:http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
As u can see theyre is a trend DOWNWARD. At the start of the graph there is 30,000 players and at the end of the graph ere is 12,000.
CCP must fix mining and end hyulkageddon because eve has lost over half its subscribers!
Maybe CCP is behind this all ganking. If something is killing business and you do not fix it or address it there is probably a good reason why. Kill Eve so players will be free to play WoD when its out.
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sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
131
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Posted - 2012.05.31 23:25:00 -
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Biggest boost was when Incursions got released. Biggest drop was when Incursions got nerfed. Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |

Tanaka Sekigahara
United Space Marine Corp
109
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Posted - 2012.05.31 23:26:00 -
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Karn Dulake wrote:It starts at zero and then the limeys log in with the rest of the eurotrash.
Move forward a few hours and the reds all start paying the rent.
The later it peaks when the yanks and rebs get online
Uhmm, the Ivans log on first. learn to read a map. |

Lithalnas
Privateers Privateer Alliance
117
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Posted - 2012.05.31 23:27:00 -
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combination of finals for college and bot bannings have an affect on server population. If you want to say EVE IS DEAD you need to look at subscriber numbers, and CCP doesn't release those. Privateer Alliance, rebuilding a not so safe High Sec.-á
Want to assist in this endevor? (contract wars, corp/pilot recrutment) Contact one of our directors. |

Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
376
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Posted - 2012.05.31 23:34:00 -
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I wonder how many of those missing 18,000 players are bots compared to those players who rage quit because of monoclegate. Adapt or Die |

Tanaka Sekigahara
United Space Marine Corp
109
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Posted - 2012.05.31 23:35:00 -
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Lithalnas wrote:combination of finals for college and bot bannings have an affect on server population. If you want to say EVE IS DEAD you need to look at subscriber numbers, and CCP doesn't release those. yet another poster who tries to "pre-win" the discussion. Again, how about you have the simple social grace to acknowledge WHAT THE GRAPH SHOWS before you start saying WHY it doesnt matter and doesnt count. In short, if you say there isnt a decline, you are a liar. after you admit the obvious (i.e., that which the graph SHOWS) we can talk about WHY.
Total subscription numbers and online activity are 2 different things, and those numbers can easily be argued bear several different interpretations.
I could argue, for instance, total sub numbers are irrelevant less than a month after the patch, that unsubs and people that will unsub havent had time to let their subs run out yet.But, as you point out, we dont have those numbers.
What we do have, is numbers on current activity, which are clearly shown to be in decline.
You deem this irrelevant.Fact is it's the only hard numbers we have.
I still think is ridiculous to not acknowledge what the data shows simply because you feel it is impossible to use data to interpret anything, which is simply your subjective opinion, and, in my opinion, a ridiculous one at that. |

SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
381
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Posted - 2012.05.31 23:39:00 -
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It is irrelevant precisely because it's the only numbers we have. Those numbers in a vacuum could mean anything. |

ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
87
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Posted - 2012.05.31 23:40:00 -
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Tanaka Sekigahara wrote:Naraish Adarn wrote:Torvin Yulus wrote:http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
As u can see theyre is a trend DOWNWARD. At the start of the graph there is 30,000 players and at the end of the graph ere is 12,000.
CCP must fix mining and end hyulkageddon because eve has lost over half its subscribers! yeah you might've bothered to hover your mouse over the peaks and you'd see year, month, date / player count so to quote my old math teacher "get your head out of your *** and you might actually see something" earlier data does indicate compared data showing normal variance of 5000 or so players which only indicates most people are out enjoying the early summer instead of playing loggin onto EVE. Ahh, and because you can read graphs, it said thats the reason for the decline  ( a decline the OP noted,one you had not the grace to acknowledge, yet simply dismissed, with your own explanation.) Next time you respond, how about you acknowledge the veracity of the OPs statement ( which you do seem to acknowledge) before you go positing possible explanations, instead of posing your explanation and then pretending it is supported by anything other than your opinion. The graph does make clear there is a drop in activity. Anyone who claims there is an increase is a boldfaced liar. Anyone who claims that "the summer" is the reason is simply putting forward an opinion. The graph proves there is a decline in player activity, not why. In short, if you want to join a discussion with intelligent people in the future, first acknowledge the facts, before you try and put your spin on them.
The Op clearly has it wrong 30000 has not become 12000. Keep getting angry defending something stupid. |
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