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Rogue Moon
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Posted - 2004.10.15 01:56:00 -
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Mines are so usefull and fun to play with. WTH did you take those away from us? I can agree that using them with launchers sucked cuz you wuld get stuck in the middle of the mine field. Maybe if you could place them in a special can that has a timer. You would just fill it up with 100-500 mines and jet it in the spot you want them. After a short timer the can blows up and out pours the mines giving you time to get to a good distance. Would be alot easier than deploying them one by one. And to keep people from putting 10's of thousands of them in space just allow in can per ship or one can jetted every 1 hour or something. They dont evern have to do insane damage, i like the way they are now, just cant bloody use them :/. BRING THEM BACK!!
Lets see some 1111111's people and post your suggestions!
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Rogue Moon
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Posted - 2004.10.15 01:56:00 -
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Mines are so usefull and fun to play with. WTH did you take those away from us? I can agree that using them with launchers sucked cuz you wuld get stuck in the middle of the mine field. Maybe if you could place them in a special can that has a timer. You would just fill it up with 100-500 mines and jet it in the spot you want them. After a short timer the can blows up and out pours the mines giving you time to get to a good distance. Would be alot easier than deploying them one by one. And to keep people from putting 10's of thousands of them in space just allow in can per ship or one can jetted every 1 hour or something. They dont evern have to do insane damage, i like the way they are now, just cant bloody use them :/. BRING THEM BACK!!
Lets see some 1111111's people and post your suggestions!
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2004.10.15 02:10:00 -
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I'm quite sure they are already going to come back, but as a deployable anchored type thing, rather than a launched thing as they used to be.
~~~~~ To see a World in a Grain of Sand And Heaven in a Wild Flower Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand And Eternity in an hour ~~William Blake |

Kel Shek
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Posted - 2004.10.15 02:10:00 -
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I'm quite sure they are already going to come back, but as a deployable anchored type thing, rather than a launched thing as they used to be.
~~~~~ To see a World in a Grain of Sand And Heaven in a Wild Flower Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand And Eternity in an hour ~~William Blake |

Valan
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Posted - 2004.10.15 02:20:00 -
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Edited by: Valan on 15/10/2004 02:22:34 Tenacha Kahn, Tank CEO and TLBC deployed a huge minefield in Ostingele. Sanc Corp, Shades and CE attacked the camp.
After the attack we held the position. We opened up on the mines, the resulting explosions were fantastic. Nearly blew my speakers and I almost squinted as the chain reaction grew. It was an impressive display. That was the 5th of November last year.
Hope the new implementation is a little more useful, they were only useful for creating lag. Can we have some nice effects to go with them?
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Valan
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Posted - 2004.10.15 02:20:00 -
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Edited by: Valan on 15/10/2004 02:22:34 Tenacha Kahn, Tank CEO and TLBC deployed a huge minefield in Ostingele. Sanc Corp, Shades and CE attacked the camp.
After the attack we held the position. We opened up on the mines, the resulting explosions were fantastic. Nearly blew my speakers and I almost squinted as the chain reaction grew. It was an impressive display. That was the 5th of November last year.
Hope the new implementation is a little more useful, they were only useful for creating lag. Can we have some nice effects to go with them?
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F'nog
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Posted - 2004.10.15 03:05:00 -
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They were also good for ganking your sec status when you put them outside a station or gate in Empire. 
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F'nog
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Posted - 2004.10.15 03:05:00 -
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They were also good for ganking your sec status when you put them outside a station or gate in Empire. 
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.10.15 03:57:00 -
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mines still excist and are in the game right now.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.10.15 03:57:00 -
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mines still excist and are in the game right now.
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2004.10.15 04:42:00 -
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Avan... umm,yes.... but see... you can't DO anything with them.
~~~~~ To see a World in a Grain of Sand And Heaven in a Wild Flower Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand And Eternity in an hour ~~William Blake |

Kel Shek
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Posted - 2004.10.15 04:42:00 -
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Avan... umm,yes.... but see... you can't DO anything with them.
~~~~~ To see a World in a Grain of Sand And Heaven in a Wild Flower Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand And Eternity in an hour ~~William Blake |

Malachi Nefzen
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Posted - 2004.10.15 04:46:00 -
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mines were uses, but still fun. I want them back.
There's mention in eve lore about mines that used to home in on ships. That would be prett yneat.
My thats was dastardly. |

Malachi Nefzen
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Posted - 2004.10.15 04:46:00 -
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mines were uses, but still fun. I want them back.
There's mention in eve lore about mines that used to home in on ships. That would be prett yneat.
My thats was dastardly. |

kurg
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Posted - 2004.10.15 07:21:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade mines still excist and are in the game right now.
yes, but arent they bigger than a siege launcher atm ?
even the paranoid has real enemies...
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kurg
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Posted - 2004.10.15 07:21:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade mines still excist and are in the game right now.
yes, but arent they bigger than a siege launcher atm ?
even the paranoid has real enemies...
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Harakiri
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Posted - 2004.10.15 07:55:00 -
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The devs have mentioned in a Dev-blog that they will fix mines later after shiva hits , even some hints to Ultra Violent mines that will work like deployables at POS stations.
So dont be sad , they will come back with a BANG! 
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Harakiri
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Posted - 2004.10.15 07:55:00 -
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The devs have mentioned in a Dev-blog that they will fix mines later after shiva hits , even some hints to Ultra Violent mines that will work like deployables at POS stations.
So dont be sad , they will come back with a BANG! 
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Gungankllr
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Posted - 2004.10.15 08:42:00 -
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I think mines are a great idea, but I think they could be easily exploited, in the same fashion as when folks used to dump hundreds of jet cans at a JIP to lag people.
The auto cloaking upon JIP would be handy, but I would worry about that problem resurfacing again.
www.hadean.org
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Gungankllr
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Posted - 2004.10.15 08:42:00 -
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I think mines are a great idea, but I think they could be easily exploited, in the same fashion as when folks used to dump hundreds of jet cans at a JIP to lag people.
The auto cloaking upon JIP would be handy, but I would worry about that problem resurfacing again.
www.hadean.org
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Ydyp Ieva
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Posted - 2004.10.15 10:22:00 -
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Hope they put in a mine skill that let you set up an amount of mines. That way you can prevent 10.000 mines from 1 person and gives lag. Also so if they get in each sensor range they just attack eachother.
Minefields give defensive advantages and certainly in defending PoS. But mines should always explode even if you are in a friendly ship. No FOF mines, this would spoil the fun when you see someone not good at laying minefields blow to pieces if he tries 
Oh man I'm already getting hot for mines, please give them back to us. Also cloaked mines should be fun  __________________________________________________ "Time will reveal everything, but only once so be prepared." |

Ydyp Ieva
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Posted - 2004.10.15 10:22:00 -
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Hope they put in a mine skill that let you set up an amount of mines. That way you can prevent 10.000 mines from 1 person and gives lag. Also so if they get in each sensor range they just attack eachother.
Minefields give defensive advantages and certainly in defending PoS. But mines should always explode even if you are in a friendly ship. No FOF mines, this would spoil the fun when you see someone not good at laying minefields blow to pieces if he tries 
Oh man I'm already getting hot for mines, please give them back to us. Also cloaked mines should be fun  __________________________________________________ "Time will reveal everything, but only once so be prepared." |

Rana Ash
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Posted - 2004.10.15 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Harakiri The devs have mentioned in a Dev-blog that they will fix mines later after shiva hits , even some hints to Ultra Violent mines that will work like deployables at POS stations.
So dont be sad , they will come back with a BANG! 
Yep, thats what i have heard as well, that the mines will come back with Shiva 
Plush Bunny lyret dedreen |

Rana Ash
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Posted - 2004.10.15 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Harakiri The devs have mentioned in a Dev-blog that they will fix mines later after shiva hits , even some hints to Ultra Violent mines that will work like deployables at POS stations.
So dont be sad , they will come back with a BANG! 
Yep, thats what i have heard as well, that the mines will come back with Shiva 
Plush Bunny lyret dedreen |

Slin
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Posted - 2004.10.15 15:05:00 -
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Edited by: Slin on 15/10/2004 15:09:37 Theres items on the Shiva market called "Bombs". Kinetic, EM, Thermal, Ect. If your a Shiva tester go check them out. I'm at work =(
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Slin
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Posted - 2004.10.15 15:05:00 -
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Edited by: Slin on 15/10/2004 15:09:37 Theres items on the Shiva market called "Bombs". Kinetic, EM, Thermal, Ect. If your a Shiva tester go check them out. I'm at work =(
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Pesadilla
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Posted - 2004.10.15 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Slin Edited by: Slin on 15/10/2004 15:09:37 Theres items on the Shiva market called "Bombs". Kinetic, EM, Thermal, Ect. If your a Shiva tester go check them out. I'm at work =(
not only shiva market they r listed in market on tq for months -----
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Pesadilla
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Posted - 2004.10.15 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Slin Edited by: Slin on 15/10/2004 15:09:37 Theres items on the Shiva market called "Bombs". Kinetic, EM, Thermal, Ect. If your a Shiva tester go check them out. I'm at work =(
not only shiva market they r listed in market on tq for months -----
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.10.15 15:21:00 -
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Yes, they're "bringing them back" as pointless **** in Shiva.
I allways found mines VERY useful on TQ, if only for psychological warfare.
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |

Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.10.15 15:21:00 -
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Yes, they're "bringing them back" as pointless **** in Shiva.
I allways found mines VERY useful on TQ, if only for psychological warfare.
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |

Deloup Drakar
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Posted - 2004.10.15 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: kurg
Originally by: AvanCade mines still excist and are in the game right now.
yes, but arent they bigger than a siege launcher atm ?
The issue is that none of the launchers have mines as an ammo type ever since the launcher change that stopped cruise missile kestrels.
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Deloup Drakar
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Posted - 2004.10.15 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: kurg
Originally by: AvanCade mines still excist and are in the game right now.
yes, but arent they bigger than a siege launcher atm ?
The issue is that none of the launchers have mines as an ammo type ever since the launcher change that stopped cruise missile kestrels.
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Wanoah
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Posted - 2004.10.15 21:01:00 -
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If you make mines useful, and minefields can be laid effectively, it seems to me that there would be an opportunity for another ship class: the Minesweeper.
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Wanoah
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Posted - 2004.10.15 21:01:00 -
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If you make mines useful, and minefields can be laid effectively, it seems to me that there would be an opportunity for another ship class: the Minesweeper.
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Skarsnik
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Posted - 2004.10.16 01:18:00 -
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Nobody has touched on the fact that Mines and POS could be a good defensive setup to help against attack..
Warp scramblers stopping ships wapring out in the middle of a minefiled - FUNNY   --------------------------------- No Slugs were harmed in the creation of this signature --------------------------------- |

Skarsnik
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Posted - 2004.10.16 01:18:00 -
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Nobody has touched on the fact that Mines and POS could be a good defensive setup to help against attack..
Warp scramblers stopping ships wapring out in the middle of a minefiled - FUNNY   --------------------------------- No Slugs were harmed in the creation of this signature --------------------------------- |

Ranger 1
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Posted - 2004.10.16 01:28:00 -
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The mines proposed for Shiva make the current one's look like fire*****ers. Much, much more damage done.
Kill the enemy, and break their toys. |

Ranger 1
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Posted - 2004.10.16 01:28:00 -
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The mines proposed for Shiva make the current one's look like fire*****ers. Much, much more damage done.
Kill the enemy, and break their toys. |

Gloin
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Posted - 2004.10.16 04:51:00 -
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I'm sure they'll have some special launcher or ship for minelaying in shiva... POS stuff will make for all sorts nifty uses for mines.. just hope they are "smart mines" -ie alliance/corp friendly. maybe have the same password system for the shield generators etc..
-dont forget those nifty looking Bombs that are currently on TQ market that have not been activated yet... flinging those out while being chased autta make for some humour...
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Gloin
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Posted - 2004.10.16 04:51:00 -
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I'm sure they'll have some special launcher or ship for minelaying in shiva... POS stuff will make for all sorts nifty uses for mines.. just hope they are "smart mines" -ie alliance/corp friendly. maybe have the same password system for the shield generators etc..
-dont forget those nifty looking Bombs that are currently on TQ market that have not been activated yet... flinging those out while being chased autta make for some humour...
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Rana Ash
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Posted - 2004.10.16 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: Skarsnik Nobody has touched on the fact that Mines and POS could be a good defensive setup to help against attack..
Warp scramblers stopping ships wapring out in the middle of a minefiled - FUNNY  
OOoH your a mean one Skarsnik
Plush Bunny lyret dedreen |

Rana Ash
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Posted - 2004.10.16 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: Skarsnik Nobody has touched on the fact that Mines and POS could be a good defensive setup to help against attack..
Warp scramblers stopping ships wapring out in the middle of a minefiled - FUNNY  
OOoH your a mean one Skarsnik
Plush Bunny lyret dedreen |

S'Daria
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Posted - 2004.10.17 05:33:00 -
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Not only should they be alliance/corp/password friendly but consider this:
1. What if you deployed a module that maintained a mine field? Each hour a drone would go around and redeploy a mine field around your POS.
2. I like the idea of a ship that deploys mines, perhaps something that could be used in fleet battles that slow down frigates - they could deploy a "wall" of mines - would hope they are good at tanking too since they might be in the front of a fleet
3. I like the idea of smart poximity mines that can move towards you if you are within say 5-10km of you if you are an enemy.
4. Mines are basically stationary missiles and as such should have their damage increased significantly - like 1k-2k damage at a bare minimum.
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S'Daria
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Posted - 2004.10.17 05:33:00 -
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Not only should they be alliance/corp/password friendly but consider this:
1. What if you deployed a module that maintained a mine field? Each hour a drone would go around and redeploy a mine field around your POS.
2. I like the idea of a ship that deploys mines, perhaps something that could be used in fleet battles that slow down frigates - they could deploy a "wall" of mines - would hope they are good at tanking too since they might be in the front of a fleet
3. I like the idea of smart poximity mines that can move towards you if you are within say 5-10km of you if you are an enemy.
4. Mines are basically stationary missiles and as such should have their damage increased significantly - like 1k-2k damage at a bare minimum.
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Al Thorr
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Posted - 2004.10.17 11:05:00 -
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Just a thought :)
Is the term for the laying of mines Mining ? And If you are laying mines are you a Miner ?
I Am in shape, ROUND is a shape |

Al Thorr
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Posted - 2004.10.17 11:05:00 -
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Just a thought :)
Is the term for the laying of mines Mining ? And If you are laying mines are you a Miner ?
I Am in shape, ROUND is a shape |

Rana Ash
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Posted - 2004.10.17 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: Al Thorr Just a thought :)
Is the term for the laying of mines Mining ? And If you are laying mines are you a Miner ?
By Jove, you are right!!!  
Plush Bunny lyret dedreen |

Rana Ash
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Posted - 2004.10.17 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: Al Thorr Just a thought :)
Is the term for the laying of mines Mining ? And If you are laying mines are you a Miner ?
By Jove, you are right!!!  
Plush Bunny lyret dedreen |
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