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THE L0CK
Denying You Access
419
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Posted - 2012.06.01 14:14:00 -
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Now I'm waiting for the comments of the business management impaired to tell us that ccp should just hire more people to take care of petitions. They're like clockwork in these threads. Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1617
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Posted - 2012.06.01 14:21:00 -
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I want the OP to come back and defend his position.
I've petitioned for three reimbursements. I got one. I was satisfied with the response on every one. As for response TIMES, I understand they're flooded with stupid stuff and that so long as idiots play Eve, petitions will take a while. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |

bongsmoke
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
70
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Posted - 2012.06.01 14:28:00 -
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Cpt Lox wrote:And another petition went to one of GMs, and another week or two waiting, but thats not a problem. The problem lies in answer, as again i received exactly same answer for reinbursment petition, very standard one. But i could ask why do i need to wait a week or 2 for simple copy - paste, while it can be done in seconds ???  so let me put my answer, u all are rather familiar with situation: "lolol that is ******* bullshit ! u put exactly same answer to every single reinbursment petition, which means u dont even read this and automatically put answer 'no' to every single petition u recived. I am paying real money for this game so i want to be treated with a CUSTOMER RESPECT - not like : copy - paste, next! which means at least u should read that petition, and give answer related to the problem. And i really dont give a **** about your server, if i say there is a bug (why i lost ship), and i ask on help channel and few other people says: there is a bug, that means THERE IS A BUG, so dont give me a bullshit: we didnt find a problem because u didnt even look for it!! (copy - paste, next! rule) Prove me wrong!!! Its not about the isks as the lost ship was worth like 15mil, its about RESPECT that person, at front of monitor, a person who pays for game (which means giving you your ******* salary) should get. "
I feel for ya, and read the GM response.
You should see the smartass email I got from a GM back in 2006 over payment method. He/she was the reason I quit for a year. But since discussion of this sort causes thread lock, I'll end it here.
I expect recently introduction of inferno has really just overloaded the office at CCP. Copy and paste is ok for generic responses, and taking time is understandable. It's the end result and how the customer is treated in the end that counts IMHO |

Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
105
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Posted - 2012.06.01 14:30:00 -
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For me, over the years I have put in 7 or 8 petitions. The help I have gotten has always been very good. I have no complaints at all... |

Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
463
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Posted - 2012.06.01 14:32:00 -
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Cpt Lox wrote:And another petition went to one of GMs, and another week or two waiting, but thats not a problem. The problem lies in answer, as again i received exactly same answer for reinbursment petition, very standard one. But i could ask why do i need to wait a week or 2 for simple copy - paste, while it can be done in seconds ???  so let me put my answer, u all are rather familiar with situation: The GM's response was far politer than you deserve. The rate of review of petitions is dependent on the number of petitions received per day, added to the number of petitions that need special treatment divided amongst the staff available to handle the traffic.
Cpt Lox wrote:"lolol that is ******* bullshit ! u put exactly same answer to every single reinbursment petition, which means u dont even read this and automatically put answer 'no' to every single petition u recived. A) I've gotten a ship back after a disconnect petition - so your conclusion is incorrect, they don't use the *exact same answer* every time. B) You have to wait two weeks because they're busy, and a lost ship petition isn't the same as a banning...
Cpt Lox wrote:I am paying real money for this game so i want to be treated with a CUSTOMER RESPECT - not like : copy - paste, next! which means at least u should read that petition, and give answer related to the problem. When a copy/paste answer is the correct answer, that's what you're going to get. There was no disrespect of you, they just didn't treat you like some precious little snowflake. On top of that, your "real money" is no more important than the "real money" over everyone else who's waiting on a petition...
Cpt Lox wrote:And i really dont give a **** about your server, if i say there is a bug (why i lost ship), and i ask on help channel and few other people says: there is a bug, that means THERE IS A BUG, so dont give me a bullshit: we didnt find a problem because u didnt even look for it!! (copy - paste, next! rule) Your whole tone and attitude scream out "I"M A SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE"!! Well, your not. Pretty much no answer would have satisfied you unless they agreed with you 100% and bowed down and kissed your little turd-cutter... Just because you and 10 (or a hundred, or a thousand people) *say* there is a bug, that does *not* mean that their actually *IS* a bug. So you got the answer you got, and with your "entitlement" issues, you came to the forums and sperged ... Well good for you...
Cpt Lox wrote:Prove me wrong!!! Its not about the isks as the lost ship was worth like 15mil, its about RESPECT that person, at front of monitor, a person who pays for game (which means giving you your ******* salary) should get. "
You've proven yourself wrong, your 15 bucks/month is no more important than anyone else's 15 bucks and you have not been disrespected.
The only thing that has been offended here is your sense of entitlement. Which, tbqh, deserves it.
Have a bad day.
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bongsmoke
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
70
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Posted - 2012.06.01 14:38:00 -
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Doc Severide wrote:For me, over the years I have put in 7 or 8 petitions. The help I have gotten has always been very good. I have no complaints at all...
Past 2 or 3 years, I agree CCP has improved in customer service. Almost the same number of petitions, and very satisfied today with the level of service and, perhaps most importantly, their professionalism. |

Mai Khumm
Apple Construction Inc Northern Associates.
214
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Posted - 2012.06.01 14:45:00 -
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I feel very sorry for customer service reps for a**holes like yourself OP...
I've never had a "copy/paste" reply to any petition I filed with CCP, and every reply I always get is speedy and professional. It's just customers like you who only hear (in this case read) what they want, and if they don't see that........well we get a post like this!
Send a petition, be polite and explain your problem in as much detail as you can. Always thank them no matter what the outcome is. If you can, crack a joke or 2 about it...
"Being drunk is a good disguise. I drink so I can talk to a**holes. This includes me." |

Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
211
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Posted - 2012.06.01 14:53:00 -
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If I had gotten OP's petition and it was like that, this is how I would have responded:
"Our logs show nothing"
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Mallak Azaria
xX-Crusader-Xx Luna Sanguinem
163
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Posted - 2012.06.01 14:55:00 -
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bongsmoke wrote:Doc Severide wrote:For me, over the years I have put in 7 or 8 petitions. The help I have gotten has always been very good. I have no complaints at all... Past 2 or 3 years, I agree CCP has improved in customer service. Almost the same number of petitions, and very satisfied today with the level of service and, perhaps most importantly, their professionalism.
I agree with this also, but I've only had 2 petitions in that ammount of time. Before that it was mostly petitions about CCP taking my money each month, then getting the email that said they couldn't charge my credit card. Try dealing with that every month OP. Thankfully, those days are long gone. |

Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
59
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Posted - 2012.06.01 15:22:00 -
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I have nothing but great things to say about the GMs. They have been nothing but respectful and helpful to me. My last petition took a bit longer than normal but I know it is because they are working on many petitions at the moment. I did something really stupid yet the GMs helped me and made me feel less dumb. Not only did they help me with my problem, but the GM was friendly and respectful. If there was an option to tip via paypal I would of, 9/10 customer service (only thing preventing it from being 10/10 was the wait time, which I understand)
You know OP if you didn't resort to being nasty and shouting profanities maybe people would be more willing to help you. Lucky for you I am not a GM, because I am sure I would read your curse filled rant and moved your petition to the back of the line. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar. Respect is a two way street, when you file a petition like a whinny little **** instead of being professional they owe you no respect.
If you had a disagreement with your boss would you send him an e-mail saying "rawr rawr this is bullshit, blah blah, curse curse profanity"? |
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
89
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Posted - 2012.06.01 15:35:00 -
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Cpt Lox wrote:
"lolol that is ******* bullshit ! u put exactly same answer to every single reinbursment petition, which means u dont even... < snipped lots of pointless blather > "
Clearly, what you experienced was a PEBCAK error, and is has been handled in the correct manner: Suffled to the back of the queue.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. |

Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.06.01 15:43:00 -
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Basically OP is that ******* that thinks that if he screams loudly enough or threatens to take his business elsewhere that he will get everything he ever wanted. |

Korsiri
Mousetrap Building Inc.
39
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Posted - 2012.06.01 16:19:00 -
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great link ^_^
+rep
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Reverend Cletis
Synister Mynisters
13
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Posted - 2012.06.01 16:26:00 -
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The kindlier gentlier GM's of Hello Kitty Online are over there----->
I hear they refund your ship value plus 10% if you use naughty words and capitalize things.
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Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
228
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Posted - 2012.06.01 16:30:00 -
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Reverend Cletis wrote:The kindlier gentlier GM's of Hello Kitty Online are over there----->
I hear they refund your ship value plus 10% if you use naughty words and capitalize things.
Doesn't that Hello Kitty thing get old?  |

Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.06.01 16:51:00 -
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Bunnie Hop wrote:Reverend Cletis wrote:The kindlier gentlier GM's of Hello Kitty Online are over there----->
I hear they refund your ship value plus 10% if you use naughty words and capitalize things.
Doesn't that Hello Kitty thing get old? 
Not as long as it continues to be relevant. |

baltec1
1313
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Posted - 2012.06.01 16:57:00 -
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In 6 years I have petitioned once to get my ship back and they did it. |

Gawain Edmond
Selective Hearing Nearly Feared
3
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Posted - 2012.06.01 17:07:00 -
[48] - Quote
wow he's more pissed than i was and i'm only pissed that ccp won't update the client through the launcher and the patch from the game itself isn't downloading itself and they won't let me download it from the website (anyone know how to make it patch when the patch won't download let me know i aint downloadin the client again but back on topic) If you think the GM's are doin such a crap job (they don't) remember that they pay to play this game too they are not (for the most part) ccp staff they are members of the player base so if it bugs you so much you get yourself signed up as a gm (there is info on how somewhere on the website) and see just how long you are able to reply to petitions from idiots like yourself while staying polite and answering each one personally
yea i aint using full stops today am feelin lazy and the shift key don't work so no capital letters either |

Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
740
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Posted - 2012.06.01 17:23:00 -
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Gawain Edmond wrote:wow he's more pissed than i was and i'm only pissed that ccp won't update the client through the launcher and the patch from the game itself isn't downloading itself and they won't let me download it from the website (anyone know how to make it patch when the patch won't download let me know i aint downloadin the client again but back on topic) If you think the GM's are doin such a crap job (they don't) remember that they pay to play this game too they are not (for the most part) ccp staff they are members of the player base so if it bugs you so much you get yourself signed up as a gm (there is info on how somewhere on the website) and see just how long you are able to reply to petitions from idiots like yourself while staying polite and answering each one personally
yea i aint using full stops today am feelin lazy and the shift key don't work so no capital letters either ISD are volunteers, GM is paid staff. No MMO has allowed players to have GM power in years, because it ALWAYS get abused horribly. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |

Velicitia
Open Designs
968
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Posted - 2012.06.01 17:44:00 -
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+1 internets |
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TriadSte
IronPig Sev3rance
94
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Posted - 2012.06.01 17:45:00 -
[51] - Quote
I used to work in customer service and we had anything up to 1500 emails backlogged and we only had 3 staff trying to get these emails completed as well as taking calls from customers who require customer service.
You have got to get on top of it and keep it low every day because as you know......you WILL get swamped again so so easily.
Also however we are your customers and not everyone including myself thinks before we speak especially when frustrated. Making customers wait a week for a reply is outrageous.
Standardized replies are also horrific because the customer wants to feel he has your attention in his/her problem and standard copy/pastes do not give that feel. |

Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.06.01 18:10:00 -
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TriadSte wrote:I used to work in customer service and we had anything up to 1500 emails backlogged and we only had 3 staff trying to get these emails completed as well as taking calls from customers who require customer service.
You have got to get on top of it and keep it low every day because as you know......you WILL get swamped again so so easily.
Also however we are your customers and not everyone including myself thinks before we speak especially when frustrated. Making customers wait a week for a reply is outrageous.
Standardized replies are also horrific because the customer wants to feel he has your attention in his/her problem and standard copy/pastes do not give that feel.
If a customer is going to be a **** to a CSR, they can get royally ******. Should have a Dev fleet hotdropped on them, followed by permadeath. |

Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
740
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Posted - 2012.06.01 18:29:00 -
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TriadSte wrote:I used to work in customer service and we had anything up to 1500 emails backlogged and we only had 3 staff trying to get these emails completed as well as taking calls from customers who require customer service.
You have got to get on top of it and keep it low every day because as you know......you WILL get swamped again so so easily.
Also however we are your customers and not everyone including myself thinks before we speak especially when frustrated. Making customers wait a week for a reply is outrageous.
Standardized replies are also horrific because the customer wants to feel he has your attention in his/her problem and standard copy/pastes do not give that feel. I've worked for a few gaming companies, and read the TOS/EULAs for both.
The kind of message he sent is actually grounds for action against his account for harrassment of GM staff, under most standard MMO TOS(to lazy to check the EVE TOS, but I am sure its there). Working for EA I saw several people told they were no longer allowed to contact customer service, if the needed help they could send a snail mail to EA's lawyers for tech support, for much the same behavior the OP exhibited.
There is NEVER an excuse for behavior like that, unless you are 4 years old. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |

Spineker
161
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Posted - 2012.06.01 18:44:00 -
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Hire more staff CCP. Problem solved.
I never expect quick turn around with CCP but sometimes they come through. But if you are overwhelmed than the answer is to use intelligent tracking system to fix problems or hire more staff. |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
1368
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Posted - 2012.06.01 18:56:00 -
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Spineker wrote:Hire more staff CCP. Problem solved.
I never expect quick turn around with CCP but sometimes they come through. But if you are overwhelmed than the answer is to use intelligent tracking system to fix problems or hire more staff.
as the GM stated they are hiring to fill the need
however, that said, who wants to work for a company that lays off a couple hundred people and then hires more because they cut too much?
Hows job security over there at CCP these days?
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Spineker
161
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Posted - 2012.06.01 19:02:00 -
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Morganta wrote:Spineker wrote:Hire more staff CCP. Problem solved.
I never expect quick turn around with CCP but sometimes they come through. But if you are overwhelmed than the answer is to use intelligent tracking system to fix problems or hire more staff. as the GM stated they are hiring to fill the need however, that said, who wants to work for a company that lays off a couple hundred people and then hires more because they cut too much? Hows job security over there at CCP these days?
I read that and just thought I would reinforce the fix.
Yeah I would not leave a stable job to work for them that is for sure. |

Sentinel Smith
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
112
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Posted - 2012.06.01 19:04:00 -
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The logs show nothing. |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
89
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Posted - 2012.06.01 19:05:00 -
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Spineker wrote:Hire more staff CCP. Problem solved.
I never expect quick turn around with CCP but sometimes they come through. But if you are overwhelmed than the answer is to use intelligent tracking system to fix problems or hire more staff. Aaaand the previously-predicted 'hire more folks' post has occured.
 Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1090
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Posted - 2012.06.01 19:14:00 -
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GM Homonoia wrote: This has to do with the sheer amount of petitions in our queues. Once we get to a petition we can usually investigate and send out a reply inside 15 minutes. The waiting times mostly come from the fact that there are 1500 petitions in front of you; we work under a first come, first serve principle (per queue type).
This prefigures two scenarios:
- You are heavily understaffed.
- The product quality is too below standards.
What prevents CCP from hiring more GMs while they work on bringing the product quality to standards?
Money? But we don't play for free.
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Spineker
161
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Posted - 2012.06.01 19:16:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:Spineker wrote:Hire more staff CCP. Problem solved.
I never expect quick turn around with CCP but sometimes they come through. But if you are overwhelmed than the answer is to use intelligent tracking system to fix problems or hire more staff. Aaaand the previously-predicted 'hire more folks' post has occured. 
What is your point? You're actually dumb enough to sit there and write that entire sentence over something that is totally ignorant to say. Why do you think I care what you think on anything in the world? Is incredible how dumb people are and special they believe they are or that they matter. Redundant ignorance is redundant.
Should I ask your permission in the future before writing?
Do you actually think people read all of these post? Seriously? What are you 10 years old son? |
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