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Ms Sexy
Pussey Thumpers
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Posted - 2012.06.01 15:34:00 -
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But it is..
I keep telling my self that it isn't but i think the recent activity and the constant hulk killing in empire show that it is infact dieing..
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James 315
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1867
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Posted - 2012.06.01 15:37:00 -
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Hulk mining in empire is not EVE. Arranging a massive gankfest of the lowly hulks--now that's EVE, as any true EVE player knows.
If you ask me, EVE is becoming more healthy by the day. |
Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
228
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Posted - 2012.06.01 15:38:00 -
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I think it is hurtful as well but I dont think it is going to kill the game. I still play everquest 1 and people for the past 6 years have been saying this is it, the games over, yet it goes on. Eve will go on and the numbers will ebb and flow though it will definately limit the type of people willing to pay for the game if ganking is the status quo. |
Michael1995
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
17
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Posted - 2012.06.01 15:39:00 -
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Dying? haha, no.
Shedding subs that probably wouldn't have stuck around for the next 6 months? yes.
I'm thinking it will go back to what it was like in the "olden days" where things seemed much nicer, and there was alot less whining over pixels being violenced.
One does not simply buy their way into Goonswarm. |
Jafit
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
188
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Posted - 2012.06.01 15:41:00 -
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Of course it's nothing to do with the interface change breaking the bots
Also losing people who only play AFK and never participated in the communtiy at all is going to kill Eve... how? |
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
419
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Posted - 2012.06.01 15:41:00 -
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I don't want this forum to suck but I think the recent whines and anti whatever mentalities is muddying the pond...
Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
Nyreanya
Astrum Research
Pina Colada Armada
99
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Posted - 2012.06.01 15:43:00 -
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I think it's changing, not dieing. It's starting to appeal less to certain play-styles, while other play-styles continue as usual. It's becoming less casual-friendly, which can be good or bad, depending on your views. |
Anazzar
Howling Stones Mining Corporation
14
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Posted - 2012.06.01 15:45:00 -
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Been playing on and off since 2005, and eve has been "dying" since 2005.
Funny thing is though, for some reason the overall long term population has increased. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
738
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Posted - 2012.06.01 15:47:00 -
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I was mining outside Jita last evening, which I don't normally do, I just happened to be in the area and was too lazy to move to safer space. Had the asteroid belts to myself. The asteroids were a decent size. Nobody visited.
"Methinks he doth protest too much." |
Virgil Travis
GWA Corp
Unified Church of the Unobligated
303
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Posted - 2012.06.01 15:48:00 -
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I believe it's called cutting off the fat. Time for a leaner, meaner EVE.
Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method |
Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
228
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Posted - 2012.06.01 15:49:00 -
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Virgil Travis wrote:I believe it's called cutting off the fat. Time for a leaner, meaner EVE.
I doubt that the accounting department wants to 'trim the fat'. Silly bravado. |
Beckie DeLey
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
79
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Posted - 2012.06.01 15:50:00 -
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Don't worry, EVE will get better soon. The first whiners are finally unsubbing and getting lost to some theme park MMO where they can AFK all day. Every one of them that leaves will improve the game more than CCP ever could. So yeah, EVE's actually on the upswing.
It's The Legendary Extraordinary Me |
Leetha Layne
44
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Posted - 2012.06.01 15:56:00 -
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The weak are a cancer. |
Virgil Travis
GWA Corp
Unified Church of the Unobligated
303
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Posted - 2012.06.01 15:57:00 -
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Bunnie Hop wrote:Virgil Travis wrote:I believe it's called cutting off the fat. Time for a leaner, meaner EVE. I doubt that the accounting department wants to 'trim the fat'. Silly bravado.
Not silly in the slightest, and it's not bravado, it's common sense, which seems to be lacking among some of those who seem to think CCP should solve all their problems and hold their hand. CCP accept that a certain number of subscriptions will be lost, it's part of their marketing projections, as with any company based on a similar model.
if you think that losing a number of subs when players find they do not like the product is anything new in this industry, you're seriously mistaken and living under false assumptions. Dead wood will fall away, it's a fact of nature.
Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method |
Spectre80
The Collective
Northern Associates.
74
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Posted - 2012.06.01 15:58:00 -
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as a long playing member i say overzealous griefing is indeed killing eve by making many very casual players quit. biggest playerbase afterall is one that is in empire and thats a fact. |
Lustralis
Tiny Holdings
18
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Posted - 2012.06.01 15:58:00 -
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The problem with Eve is it's too difficult to get the hang of, particularly the extremely high learning curve and the UI and the complexity. I asked my nephew about this as he gave it a shot and he hates it. Only a certain kind-of person can get along with Eve, so it's never going to be as popular as WoW. |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
363
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Posted - 2012.06.01 15:59:00 -
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Jafit wrote:Of course it's nothing to do with the interface change breaking the bots
Also losing people who only play AFK and never participated in the communtiy at all is going to kill Eve... how?
Don't you get how important Krixtal Icefluxor's $60 is to CCP? They should do literally anything he says, lest they lose it! |
Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
228
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Posted - 2012.06.01 16:01:00 -
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Leetha Layne wrote:The weak are a cancer.
Well that is very insightful |
Reece Davis
The Naked Revolution
10
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Posted - 2012.06.01 16:01:00 -
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with the neverending hulkageddon going on, a lot of miners will quit.......which will lead to less mod's and ships being made, and higher prices of the mods and ships. the only way to counter the inflation is to make payouts worth more. if this keeps up, you could see ship prices doubling or even tripling. |
tiberiusric
Comply Or Die
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
12
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Posted - 2012.06.01 16:05:00 -
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Anazzar wrote:Been playing on and off since 2005, and eve has been "dying" since 2005.
Funny thing is though, for some reason the overall long term population has increased.
Where do you get this BS from? It hasnt increased at all in the past few years....stop kidding yourself...
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baltec1
1313
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Posted - 2012.06.01 16:05:00 -
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EVE has been dying for the last 9 years. I hear its terminal. |
Velicitia
Open Designs
968
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Posted - 2012.06.01 16:06:00 -
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Bunnie Hop wrote:Virgil Travis wrote:I believe it's called cutting off the fat. Time for a leaner, meaner EVE. I doubt that the accounting department wants to 'trim the fat'. Silly bravado.
I dunno .. CCP Sreegs et. al. aren't too concerned about killing off accounts...
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=28628
Granted, this is just bots/RMT numbers though, and not the carebear types who think that eve should be "safe" or something.
Once that godawful notion is purged from the cluster ... and people get back to a mentality or "WTF did I/we do wrong here" instead of whatever mentality causes all the forum whines about it not being fair a ~3 mil warship can murder a 300+ mil mining barge ... yes, things will be grand.
Granted, the nullsec NAPfests and stagnation should be sorted out too. I miss the old days of hearing about big wars as they were happening ...
now all we have are the stories of The Great War, Shrike killing Steve, EBANK et. al., Goons disbanding BOB, etc...
good times those were... |
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
345
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Posted - 2012.06.01 16:07:00 -
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I see people mining every day in fact there are 5 people mining in the system I am sitting in now.
The only mineral prices that are going up are Pyrite and Trit.
Basically the high-sec ores, everything else is going down.
IF every miner actually stopped mining, EVE could probably continue for another 6 months before things got out of control.
The funny bit is that CCP hasn't changed the exhumers sense they came out.
So the odds of them changing them now are slim to none and Goonies know that.
So ultimately when CCP does react, 9 out of 10 it will be the ganker who will pay the price.
I don't believe ganking should be changed but that is the way things go.
So when the dust finally does settle, things are going to be interesting.
EVERYBODY KNOWS |
Bel Amar
Sudden Buggery
Dead On Arrival Alliance
47
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Posted - 2012.06.01 16:08:00 -
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Anazzar wrote:Funny thing is though, for some reason the overall long term population has increased.
That's just the corpse bloating or something...
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Beckie DeLey
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
79
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Posted - 2012.06.01 16:09:00 -
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Reece Davis wrote:with the neverending hulkageddon going on, a lot of miners will quit.......which will lead to less mod's and ships being made, and higher prices of the mods and ships. the only way to counter the inflation is to make payouts worth more. if this keeps up, you could see ship prices doubling or even tripling.
You say that as if it was a bad thing.
Losses meaning something is good, it's actually one of EVE's strongest features that you don't just respawn without losing too much. I feel like PVP losses could still hurt a lot more (like say, triple to current standards) before it becomes a problem.
It's The Legendary Extraordinary Me |
Maledictum Aideron
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.06.01 16:11:00 -
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No, this is saving the mining profession from terrible entitlement cases that ruin the profits for everyone else. Adapt or die. |
Jartusk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2012.06.01 16:12:00 -
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I know its hard to accept but EVE is not going to die because of the Goons, gankers or UI changes. Mining is apart of the game, but just one part, just like PVP, PVE and other Indy careers. I like to mine because I like to make small ships and ammo and supply them in areas that done have many. But Ive always accepted that Ganking is apart of the game. When I first started playing I made friends and learned the harsh reality of EVE. Empire space is not and should never be considered SAFE space.
I know that a lot of people enjoy the relaxing nature of Mining and I respect that. But you also have to ask yourself what would you do to make a quick 100 mil? A lot of these gankers are in it for the money, and the payout can be quite nice if you excell at ganking. I would be lying if I said I didnt think about joining in for the money. But I decided against it and continue to mine when I feel its safe and have time to be at the keyboard all the time.
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Reece Davis
The Naked Revolution
10
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Posted - 2012.06.01 16:17:00 -
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Beckie DeLey wrote:Reece Davis wrote:with the neverending hulkageddon going on, a lot of miners will quit.......which will lead to less mod's and ships being made, and higher prices of the mods and ships. the only way to counter the inflation is to make payouts worth more. if this keeps up, you could see ship prices doubling or even tripling. You say that as if it was a bad thing. Losses meaning something is good, it's actually one of EVE's strongest features that you don't just respawn without losing too much. I feel like PVP losses could still hurt a lot more (like say, triple to current standards) before it becomes a problem.
No i never said it was gonna be a bad thing.....i think what is happening in the game is fine. If CCP were to change it or force the Goons to stop, then it would completely go against what EVE is all about. |
HVAC Repairman
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
107
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Posted - 2012.06.01 16:19:00 -
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eve is going to live forever. like my dog rocky, who my parents sent to go live on a farm when i was a kid |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
1190
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Posted - 2012.06.01 16:20:00 -
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Eve is never not dying.
Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
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