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Nash Winters
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Posted - 2004.10.15 14:54:00 -
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Edited by: Nash Winters on 15/10/2004 15:00:01 I want to know what CCP plans to do about the rampant piracy going on throughout the universe. I see no reason why I should have to deal with some of the problems these people cause. When i cant leave a station in empire space because some guy in a bs with -9 security status is sitting outside shooting and webbing/scrambleing people as they leave, making it impossible to leave, how am i getting what i pay for? Why is it that people with a negative security status are even allowed to dock at a station? Im not talking about uncharted space, out there it is free game, but why is nothing done in empire space? All of this wouldnt be so bad if CCP was even the least helpful when it comes to loses, but i always get the same answer, we cant help you...blahblah...buy some of our isk on ebay, thatll help you out.
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Nash Winters
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Posted - 2004.10.15 14:54:00 -
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Edited by: Nash Winters on 15/10/2004 15:00:01 I want to know what CCP plans to do about the rampant piracy going on throughout the universe. I see no reason why I should have to deal with some of the problems these people cause. When i cant leave a station in empire space because some guy in a bs with -9 security status is sitting outside shooting and webbing/scrambleing people as they leave, making it impossible to leave, how am i getting what i pay for? Why is it that people with a negative security status are even allowed to dock at a station? Im not talking about uncharted space, out there it is free game, but why is nothing done in empire space? All of this wouldnt be so bad if CCP was even the least helpful when it comes to loses, but i always get the same answer, we cant help you...blahblah...buy some of our isk on ebay, thatll help you out.
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Hackett
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Posted - 2004.10.15 14:58:00 -
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Edited by: Hackett on 15/10/2004 15:01:41 Ok - first of all take a deep breath...
Cool? Righto - what sec status is the system u r in? anything up to 0.5 would have a concord responce to any hostile action unless there was a corp war. If u are in .4 and below then sentry guns will activate at gates & stations if hostile acts are comitted. This doesnt mean to say that these cant be bypassed - but its not that easy. Low sec space is exactly that for a reason - its dangerous.
Adapt.
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Hackett
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Posted - 2004.10.15 14:58:00 -
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Edited by: Hackett on 15/10/2004 15:01:41 Ok - first of all take a deep breath...
Cool? Righto - what sec status is the system u r in? anything up to 0.5 would have a concord responce to any hostile action unless there was a corp war. If u are in .4 and below then sentry guns will activate at gates & stations if hostile acts are comitted. This doesnt mean to say that these cant be bypassed - but its not that easy. Low sec space is exactly that for a reason - its dangerous.
Adapt.
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Killash Larz
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Posted - 2004.10.15 14:59:00 -
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blah blah blah....
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Killash Larz
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Posted - 2004.10.15 14:59:00 -
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blah blah blah....
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davidwelsh
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Posted - 2004.10.15 15:23:00 -
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Hey Nash... Right below your name it says Irata III Trek Alliance. Have you tried asking fellow corpmates for some help with this issue B4 going to CCP?
I can understand why you would be a bit livid over station/gate campers but it's actually part of the game.(or why else would CCP put npc pirates at some gates?)
And I wouldn't go so far as to say piracy is "rampant". You might be confusing the response that alliances have to tresspassers within their territories as "piracy". It's not. They are protecting what is their's.
There is a place for pirates in this game too. And believe it or not, they create a ballance within the game.
This is my view... I'm sure your's is diferent...
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davidwelsh
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Posted - 2004.10.15 15:23:00 -
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Hey Nash... Right below your name it says Irata III Trek Alliance. Have you tried asking fellow corpmates for some help with this issue B4 going to CCP?
I can understand why you would be a bit livid over station/gate campers but it's actually part of the game.(or why else would CCP put npc pirates at some gates?)
And I wouldn't go so far as to say piracy is "rampant". You might be confusing the response that alliances have to tresspassers within their territories as "piracy". It's not. They are protecting what is their's.
There is a place for pirates in this game too. And believe it or not, they create a ballance within the game.
This is my view... I'm sure your's is diferent...
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Gift
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Posted - 2004.10.15 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Nash Winters Edited by: Nash Winters on 15/10/2004 15:00:01 I want to know what CCP plans to do about the rampant piracy going on throughout the universe. I see no reason why I should have to deal with some of the problems these people cause. When i cant leave a station in empire space because some guy in a bs with -9 security status is sitting outside shooting and webbing/scrambleing people as they leave, making it impossible to leave, how am i getting what i pay for? Why is it that people with a negative security status are even allowed to dock at a station? Im not talking about uncharted space, out there it is free game, but why is nothing done in empire space? All of this wouldnt be so bad if CCP was even the least helpful when it comes to loses, but i always get the same answer, we cant help you...blahblah...buy some of our isk on ebay, thatll help you out.
1st off - the systems security status was 0.0 2nd - your corp is in "asda" if i recall, they claim to be an anti-pirate alliance 3rd - you lost a shuttle. oh darn... 4th - this post doesnt belong here it should be in crime & punishment
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Gift
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Posted - 2004.10.15 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Nash Winters Edited by: Nash Winters on 15/10/2004 15:00:01 I want to know what CCP plans to do about the rampant piracy going on throughout the universe. I see no reason why I should have to deal with some of the problems these people cause. When i cant leave a station in empire space because some guy in a bs with -9 security status is sitting outside shooting and webbing/scrambleing people as they leave, making it impossible to leave, how am i getting what i pay for? Why is it that people with a negative security status are even allowed to dock at a station? Im not talking about uncharted space, out there it is free game, but why is nothing done in empire space? All of this wouldnt be so bad if CCP was even the least helpful when it comes to loses, but i always get the same answer, we cant help you...blahblah...buy some of our isk on ebay, thatll help you out.
1st off - the systems security status was 0.0 2nd - your corp is in "asda" if i recall, they claim to be an anti-pirate alliance 3rd - you lost a shuttle. oh darn... 4th - this post doesnt belong here it should be in crime & punishment
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Nash Winters
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Posted - 2004.10.15 15:30:00 -
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Edited by: Nash Winters on 15/10/2004 15:37:42
Yea but you podded me, ass. I dont care what security status it is, if its a named system with a stn, i should have atleast some protection to undock safely. And i really dont care about stargate campers, youre right that is part of the game, im really refering to not being able to undock safely. And yes it is rampant when in the course of 3 days i get blown up twice outside a stn.
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Nash Winters
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Posted - 2004.10.15 15:30:00 -
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Edited by: Nash Winters on 15/10/2004 15:37:42
Yea but you podded me, ass. I dont care what security status it is, if its a named system with a stn, i should have atleast some protection to undock safely. And i really dont care about stargate campers, youre right that is part of the game, im really refering to not being able to undock safely. And yes it is rampant when in the course of 3 days i get blown up twice outside a stn.
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davidwelsh
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Posted - 2004.10.15 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: Nash Winters Edited by: Nash Winters on 15/10/2004 15:37:42
Yea but you podded me, ass. I dont care what security status it is, if its a named system with a stn, i should have atleast some protection to undock safely. And i really dont care about stargate campers, youre right that is part of the game, im really refering to not being able to undock safely. And yes it is rampant when in the course of 3 days i get blown up twice outside a stn.
For the record your corp has around 58 members. I'm not saying declare war or anything but, just that there is safety in numbers.
People get dogpiled outside of stations all the time deep inside empire space. An ex-corpmate of mine lost a Tempest to a few station campers at a 0.3 system. It was a lesson learned by everyone in the corp. We stayed the hell out of that system after that. You may have to do the same.
If you are stuck in the station (I've been there) just set a long skill and log off. Watch a movie or go grab a burger and log on later. Chances are, your station campers will be gone and you'll be able to leave.
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davidwelsh
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Posted - 2004.10.15 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: Nash Winters Edited by: Nash Winters on 15/10/2004 15:37:42
Yea but you podded me, ass. I dont care what security status it is, if its a named system with a stn, i should have atleast some protection to undock safely. And i really dont care about stargate campers, youre right that is part of the game, im really refering to not being able to undock safely. And yes it is rampant when in the course of 3 days i get blown up twice outside a stn.
For the record your corp has around 58 members. I'm not saying declare war or anything but, just that there is safety in numbers.
People get dogpiled outside of stations all the time deep inside empire space. An ex-corpmate of mine lost a Tempest to a few station campers at a 0.3 system. It was a lesson learned by everyone in the corp. We stayed the hell out of that system after that. You may have to do the same.
If you are stuck in the station (I've been there) just set a long skill and log off. Watch a movie or go grab a burger and log on later. Chances are, your station campers will be gone and you'll be able to leave.
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Hackett
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Posted - 2004.10.15 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Gift
1st off - the systems security status was 0.0 2nd - your corp is in "asda" if i recall, they claim to be an anti-pirate alliance 3rd - you lost a shuttle. oh darn... 4th - this post doesnt belong here it should be in crime & punishment
LMAO - that explains it then
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Hackett
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Posted - 2004.10.15 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Gift
1st off - the systems security status was 0.0 2nd - your corp is in "asda" if i recall, they claim to be an anti-pirate alliance 3rd - you lost a shuttle. oh darn... 4th - this post doesnt belong here it should be in crime & punishment
LMAO - that explains it then
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Nash Winters
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Posted - 2004.10.15 16:02:00 -
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Edited by: Nash Winters on 15/10/2004 16:13:36
Originally by: davidwelsh
For the record your corp has around 58 members. I'm not saying declare war or anything but, just that there is safety in numbers.
People get dogpiled outside of stations all the time deep inside empire space. An ex-corpmate of mine lost a Tempest to a few station campers at a 0.3 system. It was a lesson learned by everyone in the corp. We stayed the hell out of that system after that. You may have to do the same.
If you are stuck in the station (I've been there) just set a long skill and log off. Watch a movie or go grab a burger and log on later. Chances are, your station campers will be gone and you'll be able to leave.
This is my point, i abide by the rules, dont **** with ANYONE, ive never attacked a single person (besides corp member fun), i pay CCP each month to play this game, and i have to sit in a station because someone is going to attack me if i leave? Why is one player allowed to pin another player in a station without repurcusion? How does this not violate my EULA when CCP refuses to do anything about it, they are openly supporting a hostile game enviroment. I shouldnt have to worry about this kind of bs, its not fair to me or anyone else that just wants to mind their own business and play the game. Im not refering to uncharted space, this happens all the time in named, empire space and CCP does nothing to help.
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Nash Winters
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Posted - 2004.10.15 16:02:00 -
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Edited by: Nash Winters on 15/10/2004 16:13:36
Originally by: davidwelsh
For the record your corp has around 58 members. I'm not saying declare war or anything but, just that there is safety in numbers.
People get dogpiled outside of stations all the time deep inside empire space. An ex-corpmate of mine lost a Tempest to a few station campers at a 0.3 system. It was a lesson learned by everyone in the corp. We stayed the hell out of that system after that. You may have to do the same.
If you are stuck in the station (I've been there) just set a long skill and log off. Watch a movie or go grab a burger and log on later. Chances are, your station campers will be gone and you'll be able to leave.
This is my point, i abide by the rules, dont **** with ANYONE, ive never attacked a single person (besides corp member fun), i pay CCP each month to play this game, and i have to sit in a station because someone is going to attack me if i leave? Why is one player allowed to pin another player in a station without repurcusion? How does this not violate my EULA when CCP refuses to do anything about it, they are openly supporting a hostile game enviroment. I shouldnt have to worry about this kind of bs, its not fair to me or anyone else that just wants to mind their own business and play the game. Im not refering to uncharted space, this happens all the time in named, empire space and CCP does nothing to help.
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davidwelsh
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Posted - 2004.10.15 16:26:00 -
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Edited by: davidwelsh on 15/10/2004 16:35:33
Originally by: Nash Winters [/quote
This is my point, i abide by the rules, dont **** with ANYONE, ive never attacked a single person (besides corp member fun), i pay CCP each month to play this game, and i have to sit in a station because someone is going to attack me if i leave? Why is one player allowed to pin another player in a station without repurcusion? How does this not violate my EULA when CCP refuses to do anything about it, they are openly supporting a hostile game enviroment. I shouldnt have to worry about this kind of bs, its not fair to me or anyone else that just wants to mind their own business and play the game. Im not refering to uncharted space, this happens all the time in named, empire space and CCP does nothing to help.
The pirates in the game also pay CCP every month too. And yes they are entitled to "pirate" as much as they want. The same as I am entitled to mine in secure empire space as much as I want.
Your claim that CCP has done "nothing" to help is totally unfounded. Get in your best ship, fly out to any roid belt in a secure empire system. And let loose on any miner in the area. Then you'll see the "nothing" called CONCORD that CCP has put in place to prevent piracy in SECURE(0.5+), named empire space. Yes, you may destroy that poor noob miner B4 CONCORD arives. But there will be hell to pay on the back side when CONCORD finally shows.
I'm sure nothing I've said will sway your thoughts on the matter though. Especially if you lost some implants in the whole deal. I guess the only thing left to say is, come on back to secure empire space with the rest of us. There's still room.
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davidwelsh
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Posted - 2004.10.15 16:26:00 -
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Edited by: davidwelsh on 15/10/2004 16:35:33
Originally by: Nash Winters [/quote
This is my point, i abide by the rules, dont **** with ANYONE, ive never attacked a single person (besides corp member fun), i pay CCP each month to play this game, and i have to sit in a station because someone is going to attack me if i leave? Why is one player allowed to pin another player in a station without repurcusion? How does this not violate my EULA when CCP refuses to do anything about it, they are openly supporting a hostile game enviroment. I shouldnt have to worry about this kind of bs, its not fair to me or anyone else that just wants to mind their own business and play the game. Im not refering to uncharted space, this happens all the time in named, empire space and CCP does nothing to help.
The pirates in the game also pay CCP every month too. And yes they are entitled to "pirate" as much as they want. The same as I am entitled to mine in secure empire space as much as I want.
Your claim that CCP has done "nothing" to help is totally unfounded. Get in your best ship, fly out to any roid belt in a secure empire system. And let loose on any miner in the area. Then you'll see the "nothing" called CONCORD that CCP has put in place to prevent piracy in SECURE(0.5+), named empire space. Yes, you may destroy that poor noob miner B4 CONCORD arives. But there will be hell to pay on the back side when CONCORD finally shows.
I'm sure nothing I've said will sway your thoughts on the matter though. Especially if you lost some implants in the whole deal. I guess the only thing left to say is, come on back to secure empire space with the rest of us. There's still room.
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Emnos
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Posted - 2004.10.15 16:43:00 -
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Huh?
Don't go to 0.0 then. You know the rules of the game. Don't complain. I'm not pirate only a peaceful merchant, but i don't want to see people complaining when they know that this things are possible. If someone try the same on me I will just try to nagotiate with them. Except his IQ is -100 where them i will just ask from other to gang him. This game give you the power to get revence 
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Emnos
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Posted - 2004.10.15 16:43:00 -
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Huh?
Don't go to 0.0 then. You know the rules of the game. Don't complain. I'm not pirate only a peaceful merchant, but i don't want to see people complaining when they know that this things are possible. If someone try the same on me I will just try to nagotiate with them. Except his IQ is -100 where them i will just ask from other to gang him. This game give you the power to get revence 
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Toshiro Hasegawa
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Posted - 2004.10.15 17:00:00 -
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let me get this straight, you are complaining cause you were killed in a 0.0 system? lol
ccp has provided you with many secure systems, but you picked a 0.0, and now they are responsible for your death?
take some responsibility for your own actions and stop blaming it on other people. You chose the system, you live with the concequences.
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Toshiro Hasegawa
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Posted - 2004.10.15 17:00:00 -
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let me get this straight, you are complaining cause you were killed in a 0.0 system? lol
ccp has provided you with many secure systems, but you picked a 0.0, and now they are responsible for your death?
take some responsibility for your own actions and stop blaming it on other people. You chose the system, you live with the concequences.
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History is the Study of Change |

Nash Winters
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Posted - 2004.10.15 17:11:00 -
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Look i understand that i wasnt in the best place, but it doesnt mean that i shouldnt not have to worry about being attacked while undocking, this happens in places other than just 0.0 so its not the issue, and by your logic, if i should stay in safe space, pirates should be confined to 0.0 space, which isnt happening. I run in to pirates in .7-.0, why dont they have to stay in 0.0 space? Why are they allowed to dock with a negative security status, why are they allowed to freely roam throught secure space and then go into DS also without a care but i cant?
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Nash Winters
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Posted - 2004.10.15 17:11:00 -
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Look i understand that i wasnt in the best place, but it doesnt mean that i shouldnt not have to worry about being attacked while undocking, this happens in places other than just 0.0 so its not the issue, and by your logic, if i should stay in safe space, pirates should be confined to 0.0 space, which isnt happening. I run in to pirates in .7-.0, why dont they have to stay in 0.0 space? Why are they allowed to dock with a negative security status, why are they allowed to freely roam throught secure space and then go into DS also without a care but i cant?
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Kitten Hearder
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Posted - 2004.10.15 17:30:00 -
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Edited by: Kitten Hearder on 15/10/2004 17:33:54
Originally by: Emnos Don't go to 0.0 then. You know the rules of the game. Don't complain.
Ditto. Sorry, but I have no problems. I know that it's kill or be killed when I go to 0.0
Don't tell me you're one of those people who plays an online game and complains when you get killed in zones specifically marked for player vs. player combat?
Edit: Have you even read the game's rules?! --------- Kitten Hearder Evolution made my sig Less Entertaining than your's. |

Kitten Hearder
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Posted - 2004.10.15 17:30:00 -
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Edited by: Kitten Hearder on 15/10/2004 17:33:54
Originally by: Emnos Don't go to 0.0 then. You know the rules of the game. Don't complain.
Ditto. Sorry, but I have no problems. I know that it's kill or be killed when I go to 0.0
Don't tell me you're one of those people who plays an online game and complains when you get killed in zones specifically marked for player vs. player combat?
Edit: Have you even read the game's rules?! --------- Kitten Hearder Evolution made my sig Less Entertaining than your's. |

Nash Winters
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Posted - 2004.10.15 17:41:00 -
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So the cheapest and only module in the area, the entire region is in a 0.0, i dont go get it because i have to worry about being attacked? BULL****, im not asking for an end to fighting or piracy, all i want is some damn protection so that you can undock safely and warp away, if i get pwned at the gate...fine, but not out of a damn stn where goods are traded.
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Nash Winters
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Posted - 2004.10.15 17:41:00 -
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So the cheapest and only module in the area, the entire region is in a 0.0, i dont go get it because i have to worry about being attacked? BULL****, im not asking for an end to fighting or piracy, all i want is some damn protection so that you can undock safely and warp away, if i get pwned at the gate...fine, but not out of a damn stn where goods are traded.
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Kitten Hearder
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Posted - 2004.10.15 17:50:00 -
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Risk vs reward, buddy-boy!  --------- Kitten Hearder Evolution made my sig Less Entertaining than your's. |

Kitten Hearder
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Posted - 2004.10.15 17:50:00 -
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Risk vs reward, buddy-boy!  --------- Kitten Hearder Evolution made my sig Less Entertaining than your's. |

Kitten Hearder
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Posted - 2004.10.15 18:02:00 -
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Edited by: Kitten Hearder on 15/10/2004 18:05:36 Linkage
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Quote: Personal Security status and Rules of Engagements
+10.0 - -1.9 you can go anywhere -2.0 - -2.4 you can go to 0.9 - 0.0 -2.5 - -2.9 you can go to 0.8 - 0.0 -3.0 - -3.4 you can go to 0.7 - 0.0 -3.5 - -3.9 you can go to 0.6 - 0.0 -4.0 - -4.4 you can go to 0.5 - 0.0 -4.5 - -4.9 you can go to 0.4 - 0.0 -5.0 - -10.0 you can go to 0.4 - 0.0 but people can attack you anywhere with out loosing security status or the sentry guns/CONCORD responding
This last quote may be a bit out of date, but you get the idea. I got it here. --------- Kitten Hearder Evolution made my sig Less Entertaining than your's. |

Kitten Hearder
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Posted - 2004.10.15 18:02:00 -
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Edited by: Kitten Hearder on 15/10/2004 18:05:36 Linkage
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Quote: Personal Security status and Rules of Engagements
+10.0 - -1.9 you can go anywhere -2.0 - -2.4 you can go to 0.9 - 0.0 -2.5 - -2.9 you can go to 0.8 - 0.0 -3.0 - -3.4 you can go to 0.7 - 0.0 -3.5 - -3.9 you can go to 0.6 - 0.0 -4.0 - -4.4 you can go to 0.5 - 0.0 -4.5 - -4.9 you can go to 0.4 - 0.0 -5.0 - -10.0 you can go to 0.4 - 0.0 but people can attack you anywhere with out loosing security status or the sentry guns/CONCORD responding
This last quote may be a bit out of date, but you get the idea. I got it here. --------- Kitten Hearder Evolution made my sig Less Entertaining than your's. |

Jubba theMad
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Posted - 2004.10.15 19:26:00 -
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This guy is ******* hilarious.
Keep em' comming Nash buddy! ------------------------------------------------
"Ruin for Gallente, Glory for Caldari, Corpses for Jubba the Mad" [i](Last incomming signal recorded by Quafe Convoy, destroyed near Jel VI. |

Jubba theMad
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Posted - 2004.10.15 19:26:00 -
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This guy is ******* hilarious.
Keep em' comming Nash buddy! ------------------------------------------------
"Ruin for Gallente, Glory for Caldari, Corpses for Jubba the Mad" [i](Last incomming signal recorded by Quafe Convoy, destroyed near Jel VI. |

byondrch
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Posted - 2004.10.15 21:21:00 -
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The message you received at the first low security jump gate should have told it all. Concord cannot guarentee your saftey, and I personally prefer the challenge of low security space. Go with a friend.
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byondrch
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Posted - 2004.10.15 21:21:00 -
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The message you received at the first low security jump gate should have told it all. Concord cannot guarentee your saftey, and I personally prefer the challenge of low security space. Go with a friend.
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.10.15 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Nash Winters Edited by: Nash Winters on 15/10/2004 15:00:01 I want to know what CCP plans to do about the rampant piracy going on throughout the universe. I see no reason why I should have to deal with some of the problems these people cause. When i cant leave a station in empire space because some guy in a bs with -9 security status is sitting outside shooting and webbing/scrambleing people as they leave, making it impossible to leave, how am i getting what i pay for? Why is it that people with a negative security status are even allowed to dock at a station? Im not talking about uncharted space, out there it is free game, but why is nothing done in empire space? All of this wouldnt be so bad if CCP was even the least helpful when it comes to loses, but i always get the same answer, we cant help you...blahblah...buy some of our isk on ebay, thatll help you out.
0.0 space, no law, if you cant handle the heat dont go there. If you look at it rpg wise, the empires doesnt have the ressources to traverse all of their systems, only the key systems, 0.5 and above, in 0.o empire space only sentry guns are helping you.
You came around an experienced player, who took you out, its a PvP game, live with it or stay in 0.5 or above So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.10.15 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Nash Winters Edited by: Nash Winters on 15/10/2004 15:00:01 I want to know what CCP plans to do about the rampant piracy going on throughout the universe. I see no reason why I should have to deal with some of the problems these people cause. When i cant leave a station in empire space because some guy in a bs with -9 security status is sitting outside shooting and webbing/scrambleing people as they leave, making it impossible to leave, how am i getting what i pay for? Why is it that people with a negative security status are even allowed to dock at a station? Im not talking about uncharted space, out there it is free game, but why is nothing done in empire space? All of this wouldnt be so bad if CCP was even the least helpful when it comes to loses, but i always get the same answer, we cant help you...blahblah...buy some of our isk on ebay, thatll help you out.
0.0 space, no law, if you cant handle the heat dont go there. If you look at it rpg wise, the empires doesnt have the ressources to traverse all of their systems, only the key systems, 0.5 and above, in 0.o empire space only sentry guns are helping you.
You came around an experienced player, who took you out, its a PvP game, live with it or stay in 0.5 or above So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Tythran
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Posted - 2004.10.16 00:03:00 -
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While it is unfortunate that you can get trapped in a station in low security space, it has to be remembered that a player, with a -9 security rating, has had the balls to combat players in empire space. Thus his security rating, shows him for exactly what he is, dangerous! Had he only ever fought in 0.0 space, he would not have that negative rating and you wouldn't know he was a danger. My advice would be to log on with an alt for an hour or so, check out the market, check the escrow deals and hopefully he will have gone when you next log in.
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Tythran
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Posted - 2004.10.16 00:03:00 -
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While it is unfortunate that you can get trapped in a station in low security space, it has to be remembered that a player, with a -9 security rating, has had the balls to combat players in empire space. Thus his security rating, shows him for exactly what he is, dangerous! Had he only ever fought in 0.0 space, he would not have that negative rating and you wouldn't know he was a danger. My advice would be to log on with an alt for an hour or so, check out the market, check the escrow deals and hopefully he will have gone when you next log in.
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.10.16 10:59:00 -
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Stop complaining, if it was a named 0.0 then there ARE sentries at the station, he was tanking them or out of their range. If it was unnamed then it's your own fault. You enter less than 0.5 and you accept the fact that you might get shot. Deal with it.
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.10.16 10:59:00 -
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Stop complaining, if it was a named 0.0 then there ARE sentries at the station, he was tanking them or out of their range. If it was unnamed then it's your own fault. You enter less than 0.5 and you accept the fact that you might get shot. Deal with it.
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Point
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Posted - 2004.10.16 16:18:00 -
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I Agree with Nash, if you get ganked outside a station or as you jump it says that the game for solo player is null and void.If im a miner and builder it make it a little hard on me to explore and find the ore I need.So no matter how much you guys say its 0.0 and thats what you get, it all it means is that you have to join a corp and personaly I wish I didnt have to.
p.s. I do ninja mine for minerals but i dont make 15 jumps ,i try to keep it as safe a possible.
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Point
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Posted - 2004.10.16 16:18:00 -
[46]
I Agree with Nash, if you get ganked outside a station or as you jump it says that the game for solo player is null and void.If im a miner and builder it make it a little hard on me to explore and find the ore I need.So no matter how much you guys say its 0.0 and thats what you get, it all it means is that you have to join a corp and personaly I wish I didnt have to.
p.s. I do ninja mine for minerals but i dont make 15 jumps ,i try to keep it as safe a possible.
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.10.16 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: Point I Agree with Nash, if you get ganked outside a station or as you jump it says that the game for solo player is null and void.If im a miner and builder it make it a little hard on me to explore and find the ore I need.So no matter how much you guys say its 0.0 and thats what you get, it all it means is that you have to join a corp and personaly I wish I didnt have to.
p.s. I do ninja mine for minerals but i dont make 15 jumps ,i try to keep it as safe a possible.
Nobody forces you to enter a cooperation, but to actually get to the highend stuff, you need a corp, to help yuou out. So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.10.16 22:12:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Point I Agree with Nash, if you get ganked outside a station or as you jump it says that the game for solo player is null and void.If im a miner and builder it make it a little hard on me to explore and find the ore I need.So no matter how much you guys say its 0.0 and thats what you get, it all it means is that you have to join a corp and personaly I wish I didnt have to.
p.s. I do ninja mine for minerals but i dont make 15 jumps ,i try to keep it as safe a possible.
Nobody forces you to enter a cooperation, but to actually get to the highend stuff, you need a corp, to help yuou out. So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Shakul
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Posted - 2004.10.17 04:28:00 -
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You know the NPC rats in roid belts? Yeah, those are kind of annoying to miners such as myself. Why don't we remove them too? Auction your items for isk, works sort of like ebay. |

Shakul
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Posted - 2004.10.17 04:28:00 -
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You know the NPC rats in roid belts? Yeah, those are kind of annoying to miners such as myself. Why don't we remove them too? Auction your items for isk, works sort of like ebay. |

Hansje Solo
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Posted - 2004.10.17 09:10:00 -
[51]
No matter what the rules are, or whether it's his own fault, what CAN you do in such a situation? Don't mind what he should or should not have done: this is the situation he's in, now what? Maybe the camper will get bored, maybe not. Funny thing tho; I was shot aproaching a gate in some low seclvl system obviously by a gatecamper. My pod was destroyed and I was revived at my point of origin. Why does this not happen to you?
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Hansje Solo
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Posted - 2004.10.17 09:10:00 -
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No matter what the rules are, or whether it's his own fault, what CAN you do in such a situation? Don't mind what he should or should not have done: this is the situation he's in, now what? Maybe the camper will get bored, maybe not. Funny thing tho; I was shot aproaching a gate in some low seclvl system obviously by a gatecamper. My pod was destroyed and I was revived at my point of origin. Why does this not happen to you?
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Atandros
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Posted - 2004.10.17 11:19:00 -
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What could he do? Simple. Make a really fast frig (Vigil, f.ex., is a good platform), and use that for travelling. There, problem solved.
See, a little preparation and thought is far more useful than whining and shouting nonsensical arguments.
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Atandros
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Posted - 2004.10.17 11:19:00 -
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What could he do? Simple. Make a really fast frig (Vigil, f.ex., is a good platform), and use that for travelling. There, problem solved.
See, a little preparation and thought is far more useful than whining and shouting nonsensical arguments.
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Wolf DeRainger
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Posted - 2004.10.17 12:24:00 -
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Other alternative is to call on your Corpmates for help. That's what I did on the one occesion I was locked down in a station by pirates. It led to some of the most intense play I've ever had in any game, as I scuttled out of the station and system running between two groups of Battleships facing off against each other. It was like a scene out of a Western, you know the one, the two groups of gunfighters at each end of the street with me as the child or shopkeeper scurry between them trying to get into cover before the shooting starts.
I'm predominantly an Industrial/Trade player and have always resented the phrase 'Carebear'. But I've got to say, the guy who started this thread has to be in line for the 'Fluffy Care Bear of the year award.'
Yes it's annoying when you get locked down. Yes it's bloody annoying when you loose an Indy full of minerals. Yes it's annoying when you have to add 10 jumps to a trade. run so you can avoid systems where pirates are active.
But NO! I'd not have it any other way. That's what Eve's about. You need the low sec Empire systems as that grey area between Pirate and none pirate players otherwise there would be no contact at all between the two groups. High Sec Empire systems are for those who are new or who don't want to run any risk of PvP what so ever. 0.0 Ar efor the hard and fast PvPers who are out carving empires for themselves. Low sec Empire Space is where Player Pirates might make some decent money raiding the not so well patrolled trade routes and none pirate players can make some decent money with those lucrative trade deals. Of all the different areas. I would suspect that it's the low sec Empire systems where you will find the majority of PvP action goes on
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Wolf DeRainger
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Posted - 2004.10.17 12:24:00 -
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Other alternative is to call on your Corpmates for help. That's what I did on the one occesion I was locked down in a station by pirates. It led to some of the most intense play I've ever had in any game, as I scuttled out of the station and system running between two groups of Battleships facing off against each other. It was like a scene out of a Western, you know the one, the two groups of gunfighters at each end of the street with me as the child or shopkeeper scurry between them trying to get into cover before the shooting starts.
I'm predominantly an Industrial/Trade player and have always resented the phrase 'Carebear'. But I've got to say, the guy who started this thread has to be in line for the 'Fluffy Care Bear of the year award.'
Yes it's annoying when you get locked down. Yes it's bloody annoying when you loose an Indy full of minerals. Yes it's annoying when you have to add 10 jumps to a trade. run so you can avoid systems where pirates are active.
But NO! I'd not have it any other way. That's what Eve's about. You need the low sec Empire systems as that grey area between Pirate and none pirate players otherwise there would be no contact at all between the two groups. High Sec Empire systems are for those who are new or who don't want to run any risk of PvP what so ever. 0.0 Ar efor the hard and fast PvPers who are out carving empires for themselves. Low sec Empire Space is where Player Pirates might make some decent money raiding the not so well patrolled trade routes and none pirate players can make some decent money with those lucrative trade deals. Of all the different areas. I would suspect that it's the low sec Empire systems where you will find the majority of PvP action goes on
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Lord Elric
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Posted - 2004.10.18 10:23:00 -
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Could also try making a run for it just after DT  "Requested items: One Mark V ECM unit, 1000 km of fullerene cable, one low yield nuclear warhead. Stated purpose: birthday party for Amarian dignitary." -Special Operations Service requisition form- |

Lord Elric
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Posted - 2004.10.18 10:23:00 -
[58]
Could also try making a run for it just after DT  "Requested items: One Mark V ECM unit, 1000 km of fullerene cable, one low yield nuclear warhead. Stated purpose: birthday party for Amarian dignitary." -Special Operations Service requisition form- |

Phios Phane
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Posted - 2004.10.18 10:35:00 -
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Edited by: Phios Phane on 18/10/2004 10:41:24
man i love these types of thread  ---------------------------
The Cold War, EVE style ...
[ 2004.10.17 10:04:18 ] Crystal DeAngelis > is cos teh vietkong used littel groups and didnt get any lag |

Phios Phane
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Posted - 2004.10.18 10:35:00 -
[60]
Edited by: Phios Phane on 18/10/2004 10:41:24
man i love these types of thread  ---------------------------
The Cold War, EVE style ...
[ 2004.10.17 10:04:18 ] Crystal DeAngelis > is cos teh vietkong used littel groups and didnt get any lag |

neur0n
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Posted - 2004.10.18 15:05:00 -
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go play lemmings or sommit ----------------------------------------------
zeroh > what's the dif between portugal and spain? i thought u were like rebels from spain or sommit, like north korea and south korea |

neur0n
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Posted - 2004.10.18 15:05:00 -
[62]
go play lemmings or sommit ----------------------------------------------
zeroh > what's the dif between portugal and spain? i thought u were like rebels from spain or sommit, like north korea and south korea |

Phios Phane
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Posted - 2004.10.18 15:44:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Phios Phane on 18/10/2004 15:47:36 nah lemmings would be to violent. im sure we would see a post on lemmings.com (or whatever ) with something along the lines of "OMG teh gravity keeps killing my lemmings do something!! NERF GRAVITY. gravity should only be allowed in safe places!". ---------------------------
The Cold War, EVE style ...
[ 2004.10.17 10:04:18 ] Crystal DeAngelis > is cos teh vietkong used littel groups and didnt get any lag |

Phios Phane
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Posted - 2004.10.18 15:44:00 -
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Edited by: Phios Phane on 18/10/2004 15:47:36 nah lemmings would be to violent. im sure we would see a post on lemmings.com (or whatever ) with something along the lines of "OMG teh gravity keeps killing my lemmings do something!! NERF GRAVITY. gravity should only be allowed in safe places!". ---------------------------
The Cold War, EVE style ...
[ 2004.10.17 10:04:18 ] Crystal DeAngelis > is cos teh vietkong used littel groups and didnt get any lag |

Droidster
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Posted - 2004.10.19 03:22:00 -
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woof woof rarrrrh eerrrr podded grrrr ylwow wro*** wrokk wrokk shuttle woooof blarangggar rang rang rang bah bah pirate meow meeeeoooow ow ow camping ow ouch ooh woof CCP raahwr ree hah... _____________________________________________ I am motivated by various things, mostly ISK. |

Droidster
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Posted - 2004.10.19 03:22:00 -
[66]
woof woof rarrrrh eerrrr podded grrrr ylwow wro*** wrokk wrokk shuttle woooof blarangggar rang rang rang bah bah pirate meow meeeeoooow ow ow camping ow ouch ooh woof CCP raahwr ree hah... _____________________________________________ I am motivated by various things, mostly ISK. |

Sherkaner
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Posted - 2004.10.19 09:17:00 -
[67]
*locked for trolling and ranting* This discussion has no place in New Citizens Q&A.
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Sherkaner
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Posted - 2004.10.19 09:17:00 -
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*locked for trolling and ranting* This discussion has no place in New Citizens Q&A.
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