I don't make video's for free. GǪ I am unable to play for 2 hours everyday, so I will commit to mining for 4 hours each day I play to compensate.

300M is almost the income per hour you can get in the best hi sec group content (incursions) done in a not super pimp boat.

300M ISK/hr in a non-pimped incursion boat?

Did I miss a [sarcasm] tag or something?

You can mine in a Rokh just fine in 30min. There are, as you found, plenty of things to do with just 30min playtimes.

Has Helicity said that he doesn't like the goonswarm backing? If not, then sounds like he doesn't feel abused.

Warp to station every cycle, morons. That better? I suggest more than one solution to every problem, then you pick one and say you don't like it. That's how this discussion's been going. I invite you to take all 13 suggestions I've made (full list is in the other thread) and explain to me a single situation in which ALL 13 don't work or are legitimately unsatisfactory AT THE SAME TIME.

Makes sense, they come teached by ISDs in rookie chat to become miners (like I did) what ships to get, what skills to train, they get pointed to Halada's miner guide listing the ships. They buy those ships and feel accomplished and then some weeks later (if ever) they read they did all wrong, should have trained a combat ship, should have chosen different stats, prioritized other implants...

At least acknowldege it's a shoddy kick in the balls and counter intuitive to say the least. Game should not require to read GD.
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I usually posted one or two suggestions like that in gank threads I posted on.

Either Hulks need a buff or they don't. Player actions do not change game mechanics.

The Mittani is organizing this because it makes ISK for the GSF. He's driving the Tech price up to milk it for all its worth before it gets nerfed.

As for whatever Sub Decline projections you've made, that's not something you can make the way Akita's Tech graphs were made. Right now, Subs have been climbing since Incarna's drop, so I don't think GêPHAG is causing a drop in Subs to begin with.

You're aware that advice given by ISDs is not indicative of any direction CCP intends for new players to take, right?

What needs a buff is to remove concord and put players. Even just temporarily and for a requester, like war dec ally mechanic works.

Makes sense, they come teached by ISDs in rookie chat to become miners (like I did) what ships to get, what skills to train, they get pointed to Halada's miner guide listing the ships. They buy those ships and feel accomplished and then some weeks later (if ever) they read they did all wrong, should have trained a combat ship, should have chosen different stats, prioritized other implants...

At least acknowldege it's a shoddy kick in the balls and counter intuitive to say the least. Game should not require to read GD.

I feel he has been abused, it's my sponsor money I do what I want with it.

You can also daily wipe your butt with sandpaper. It works.

While ofc course your ideas work, tbh I'd prefer risking losing a ship than adopting them, because it's a game not a crucifixion. And if losing the ship would be too often I'd switch doing any other easier task including doing anoms in low sec, doing WHs. But never in 0.0, because since they DEMAND people to go 0.0 I will unsub before I obey.

No matter your profession, Eve will kick you in the balls with a steel-toed boot many times over. That's where "don't fly what you can't afford to lose" comes from. Also, if that's not the first lesson being taught to any player, at all, ever, then someone screwed up. Every lesson you can ever learn in Eve comes back to that core idea, that once you hit Undock, all bets are off.

They already have that in-game, it's called lowsec and nullsec. Oh wait, you don't want the downsides that come with that, do you?

Nullsec is worthless for what I care.
Lowsec is actually my favored place, so try this on someone else, mkay?

I'll Recap.

1. Continue Mining like normal and Accept the losses
2. Continue Mining as normal but in a Covetor and Accept the losses
3. Mine in a Rokh, comfortably immune* to Suicide Ganks
4. Tank your Hulk and Accept a lower number of Losses from edge case profit based ganks.
5. Tank your Hulk with RR and be comfortable immune to Suicide Ganks
6. Mine in a Normally Fit Hulk but use a short range D-Scan to escape ganks
7. Set up safespots such that you can maintain a rough orbit in range of a roid by aligning to each BM in turn
8. Set up Hulks to Web each other, mine aligned to 1 SS at 7m/s (warpable speed) (can be done @ max yield)
9. Watch local for known gankers, accept the occasional gank from unknown ganks
10. Mine in Mission pockets.
11. Mine in Grav Sites, occasionally scanning D-Scan
12. Tank your Hulk and have friends in BLAP AC Nados ready to shoot (one should kill a Cat before you die, failing the gank)
13. Tank your Hulk and have friends with ECM
14. Tank your Hulk and run 5x Med ECM drones and accept that you'll die if they fail
15. Mine in Lowsec (can be done solo in a quiet system)
16. Mine in Null (can be done solo in a quiet NPC sov system)
17. Mine in WH space

*all cases of immunity from Suicide Ganks assume profit-based ganks. Non-Profit based ganks are rare and are not something that can be negated by game mechanics changes besides eliminating ganks, thus can be ignored.

Show me a person's situation where ALL of those will not work.

Good for you! Doesn't mean your suggestion to allow the importation of convenient low/null features into highsec temporarily and without the associated downsides isn't mind-numbingly ******** though.

Hulks needing a buff? Lol no. Macks maybe, they suck so royally hard yet they are also meant to be in 0.0.

What needs a buff is to remove concord and put players. Even just temporarily and for a requester, like war dec ally mechanic works.

Wanna bet with me that the next week suicide ganking suddenly halts? Because don't lie to me, the suicide gankers are spineless hi seccers grazing on the short bus citizens, if they EVER found opposition they'd stop and create 100 times as many threads on GD than miners do.

1) I don't like Mittani but I hold him in higher consideration than you do. He's not stupid, he can easily manage a basic multi-layer agenda. Who did a lot for EvE when in the CSM again?

2) Like FET transistors, I play "base" and convey people to do what I desire by using other people's high power infrastructures. Sometimes it works (i.e. nitro isotopes first peak) sometimes it does not but it's worth trying, metagame > all.

3) My predictions made before Incarna regarded Incarna. Did you see predictions or posts of mine about the next playerbase drops, due to hulkageddon? No, eh? Why? Because I am actually helped if people quits over this.

18. Invite concord to your mining party so you don't have to wait 30 seconds for it to arrive.

Why, do you prefer a PLAYER DRIVEN game or NPC WoW crap? I am all for having all player driven everywhere even in high sec.

Some of those don't work (tried the orbit around something still easy to kill), some are impractical, some are excellent, but I chose 18 (don't mine) and am quite happy with it.

Can't comment on the consensus you'll get at people having a Ferrari since years that the best they should do is to put it in garage, downgrade to Honda and similar but that's not something me or you can do anything about.

Makes sense, they come teached by ISDs in rookie chat to become miners (like I did) what ships to get, what skills to train, they get pointed to Halada's miner guide listing the ships. They buy those ships and feel accomplished and then some weeks later (if ever) they read they did all wrong, should have trained a combat ship, should have chosen different stats, prioritized other implants...

Orbiting is not "Press Orbit" it's "Make 4+ Safes around your belt. Align to each one in turn so you are always aligned to something warpable at full speed while staying in range of your roid. If a hostile lands, insta-warp to your safe.

You totally missed that ^. Also, mining in WH space? That's like... pretty dangerous, unless you want to spend half your life probing for and closing WH into your system and even then you won't know for sure if anyone else is in there .

I'd rather watch videos of old women being shoved out of airplanes.

That's the problem. Mining dulls the brain. Your reaction time reduces the longer you mine for. It can take 30 seconds or more to recognise the situation might be problematic and execute the warp!

The point of the OP was that no-one is going to sit staring at the screen for two hours a day just to make 30M ISK.

You walked into that one with your eyes wide open.

You totally missed that ^. Also, mining in WH space? That's like... pretty dangerous, unless you want to spend half your life probing for and closing WH into your system and even then you won't know for sure if anyone else is in there .

4) You must be in Caldari space.

Solution: Amphetamines. Worked for Radar Operators in the '80s.