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Paxx Bello Inquisition FiS Division 0	Posted - 2012.06.01 22:07:00 - [1] - Quote I'm relatively new to EVE, having only started playing in late December 2011. I've never really done much mining, but the small amount of mining I've done (in a Retriever) seems to indicate to me that it's a relatively low profit scheme -- in high sec and, to an extent, in worm holes. It seems to me that most of the participants in Hulkageddon are of the general mindset that "high sec mining is over lulz". Is the actual intent of Hulkageddon to remove high sec mining from the game? (And if so, what is the proposed mechanism for 'picking up the slack' in the mineral market?)
Danika Princip Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team 653	Posted - 2012.06.01 22:07:00 - [2] - Quote Pretty sure the actual intention is threads like this.
Rengerel en Distel Amarr Science and Industry 121	Posted - 2012.06.01 22:11:00 - [3] - Quote The purpose of hulkageddon is to make even more money for goonswarm, while feasting on supposed tears from miners. I'm sure both endeavors are fruitful enough for them to consider it pretty successful.
Danika Princip Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team 653	Posted - 2012.06.01 22:13:00 - [4] - Quote Rengerel en Distel wrote: The purpose of hulkageddon is to make even more money for goonswarm, while feasting on supposed tears from miners. I'm sure both endeavors are fruitful enough for them to consider it pretty successful. That, and threads like these are really funny.
baltec1 1313	Posted - 2012.06.01 22:14:00 - [5] - Quote The point of hulkageddon is to win prizes.
James 315 Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1867	Posted - 2012.06.01 22:19:00 - [6] - Quote Paxx Bello wrote: It seems to me that most of the participants in Hulkageddon are of the general mindset that "high sec mining is over lulz". Is the actual intent of Hulkageddon to remove high sec mining from the game? I can't speak for everyone, but I personally would love to see the removal of highsec mining from the game. Quote: (And if so, what is the proposed mechanism for 'picking up the slack' in the mineral market?) "Slack" implies that there is some objective level of minerals that must be brought into the market. IMHO, any drop in the quantity minerals is an acceptable consequence of the end of highsec mining, so nobody has to pick up the "slack."
Zoe Athame Fweddit 60	Posted - 2012.06.01 22:27:00 - [7] - Quote EVE has no endgame
Paxx Bello Inquisition FiS Division 0	Posted - 2012.06.01 22:28:00 - [8] - Quote James 315 wrote: Quote: (And if so, what is the proposed mechanism for 'picking up the slack' in the mineral market?) "Slack" implies that there is some objective level of minerals that must be brought into the market. IMHO, any drop in the quantity minerals is an acceptable consequence of the end of highsec mining, so nobody has to pick up the "slack." My guess is that the elimination of mining would simply leads to more mining in WH/null space. If supply of minerals drops low enough, the ISK/hr metric of mining would go through the roof. Or maybe just lead to more botting. What do I know?
Paxx Bello Inquisition FiS Division 0	Posted - 2012.06.01 22:30:00 - [9] - Quote Zoe Athame wrote: EVE has no endgame Seems relevant. Glad you could stop by.
VaMei Meafi Corp 168	Posted - 2012.06.01 23:19:00 - [10] - Quote Maybe I'm just buying into the propaganda, but for the sponsors of Hulkageddon (the Goons) there are 3 purposes that have been discussed fairly openly. One is an open war on the feeling of entitlement that a growing number of players have. More and more players feel that hi-sec should be a safe place to do whatever is that they do, and that CCP needs to insure that it remains that way. The Goon leaders disagree, and their minions are quick to follow. If the Goons have their way, either the players of Eve will learn that no place is truly safe, or they'll force CCP to once and for all change hi-sec into a carebear theme park. Either way, the slow painful change will come to an end. Many carebears jumped onto the line that Goons want to destroy the game. In reality, they want to destroy your game. Second, Goons and their allies control a large percentage of the Tech moons. Being a bottleneck material makes Tech valuable from the start, but blowing up things composed greatly of Tech makes it more so. Hulks require a huge amount of Tech to make, so every Hulk that gets replaced lines the Goon coffers. Third, just the way they did with Oxytopes, the Goons have been manipulating the mineral markets for fun & profit while simultaneously suppressing the supply, and perhaps more importantly, the perception of that supply. When it comes to the participants, it can be anything from the yucks of watching 300Misk of someone else's money go pop, to farming tears from carebears, to the 'profession' of farming Hulks for their loot and bounty, to one of the bigger goals above.
Ituhata Saken Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 211	Posted - 2012.06.01 23:22:00 - [11] - Quote Isn't it obvious? Hulkageddon was created as a distraction from the Mittani "soiled cigar" scandal. You know what an answer is? It's a terminus -- an end. Answers are fine, but questions are where it's at. Questions bring us closer to understanding, -áthey can start a conversation or spark a revolution. So you might as well start asking... now.-á ~See you on the other side 6/6/12~
The Groundskeeper Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 125	Posted - 2012.06.01 23:23:00 - [12] - Quote What's the end-game of Hulkageddon? You're posting in it.
Archimedes Eratosthenes Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 53	Posted - 2012.06.01 23:24:00 - [13] - Quote Rengerel en Distel wrote: The purpose of hulkageddon is to make even more money for goonswarm, while feasting on supposed tears from miners. I'm sure both endeavors are fruitful enough for them to consider it pretty successful. You are wrong. The purpose of Hulkageddon is to allow The Butthurt Mitanni to get revenge on CCP for his 30-day ban by striking at their wallet.
Gabriel Kaile GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 30	Posted - 2012.06.01 23:33:00 - [14] - Quote Archimedes Eratosthenes wrote: Rengerel en Distel wrote: The purpose of hulkageddon is to make even more money for goonswarm, while feasting on supposed tears from miners. I'm sure both endeavors are fruitful enough for them to consider it pretty successful. You are wrong. The purpose of Hulkageddon is to allow The Butthurt Mitanni to get revenge on CCP for his 30-day ban by striking at their wallet. How exactly did he strike at their wallet? Gabriel Kaile, Order of Merlin, Third Class, Honorary Member of the Dark Force Defense League, five time winner of Goonwaffe Weekly's Most-Charming Smile award
MadMuppet Kerguelen Station 423	Posted - 2012.06.01 23:35:00 - [15] - Quote Hulkageddon is a player driven game for prizes. What we are calling the never ending Hulkageddon is just a business move within the rules of the game. Check out the new Orca model, brought to you by the Unified Inventory System http://i.imgur.com/InJgK.jpg-á
Barbara Nichole Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance 196	Posted - 2012.06.01 23:40:00 - [16] - Quote James 315 wrote: Paxx Bello wrote: It seems to me that most of the participants in Hulkageddon are of the general mindset that "high sec mining is over lulz". Is the actual intent of Hulkageddon to remove high sec mining from the game? I can't speak for everyone, but I personally would love to see the removal of highsec mining from the game. cuz' what this game really needs the most is another way to make null sec even more profitable for the large deep space sov holders. (sic) [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG]
Marcus Harikari Guitar Players of EVE 50	Posted - 2012.06.01 23:41:00 - [17] - Quote Mining is definitely not EVE's endgame, ROFL. It makes very little money compared to fighting sansha, sleepers, and complexes in 0.0.
Roisin Saoirse Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 100	Posted - 2012.06.01 23:44:00 - [18] - Quote Barbara Nichole wrote: James 315 wrote: Paxx Bello wrote: It seems to me that most of the participants in Hulkageddon are of the general mindset that "high sec mining is over lulz". Is the actual intent of Hulkageddon to remove high sec mining from the game? I can't speak for everyone, but I personally would love to see the removal of highsec mining from the game. cuz' what this game really needs the most is another way to make null sec even more profitable for the large deep space sov holders. (sic) Well tbf James315 is a Goon puppet, so it's understandable he'd support that route. What's laughable is the constant resistance he has for nerfing suicide ganking because y'know, :SANDBOXGäó:, but at the same time he's obsessively trying to remove a whole part of the sandbox just because he himself isn't interested in it.
Rengerel en Distel Amarr Science and Industry 121	Posted - 2012.06.01 23:47:00 - [19] - Quote Marcus Harikari wrote: Mining is definitely not EVE's endgame, ROFL. It makes very little money compared to fighting sansha, sleepers, and complexes in 0.0. Perhaps read the thread again after you sober up, and it'll make more sense to you.
James 315 Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1867	Posted - 2012.06.02 00:01:00 - [20] - Quote Roisin Saoirse wrote: Well tbf James315 is a Goon puppet, so it's understandable he'd support that route. What's laughable is the constant resistance he has for nerfing suicide ganking because y'know, :SANDBOXGäó:, but at the same time he's obsessively trying to remove a whole part of the sandbox just because he himself isn't interested in it. First, I am not a puppet. If the Goons agree with me on something, it's because they know I'm right. Should they not agree with me, just for the sake of being obstreperous? Second, the "sandbox" defense of highsec mining has long since been debunked. People are free to mine, and people are free to kill the miners. If the clash between these two forces results in the death of mining, that is the preferable option. It's still wholly within the "sandbox" to eradicate certain behaviors. For example, we eradicated the practice of NRDS, "neutral" stations (think ISS), and sov-holding without defense forces (ASCN), and so on. If people stop mining in highsec because they want to avoid being ganked, the "sandbox" is working as intended.
Le Dei Opus Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 20	Posted - 2012.06.02 00:54:00 - [21] - Quote Gabriel Kaile wrote: Archimedes Eratosthenes wrote: Rengerel en Distel wrote: The purpose of hulkageddon is to make even more money for goonswarm, while feasting on supposed tears from miners. I'm sure both endeavors are fruitful enough for them to consider it pretty successful. You are wrong. The purpose of Hulkageddon is to allow The Butthurt Mitanni to get revenge on CCP for his 30-day ban by striking at their wallet. How exactly did he strike at their wallet? Gabriel Kaile, Order of Merlin, Third Class, Honorary Member of the Dark Force Defense League, five time winner of Goonwaffe Weekly's Most-Charming Smile award I once had four extra accounts for mining, three of them were closed last month and the last one is being closed as of this month with a permanent announcement of Hulkageddon. Since taking my Tengu into WH's is more profitable and less risky than high sec mining, you can understand why I'd do this. Also I only need one account, my main account. So CCP lost 4 of my 5 subscriptions and a rather robust source of tritanium. Many others with alt mining accounts have followed through with what I have done. I'm I'm going to be forced to watch my screen endlessly, I may as well do something enjoyable and more profitable like WH's.
AzulOso The Scope Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.06.02 01:04:00 - [22] - Quote So, if this "Never-ending Gobsttoper" (Geddon) is a reality then your idea of trimming accounts sounds more profitable, to me. Plus, will reduce my RL cost and the nagging from the lil' women. So! A win-win.
Ocular Shadows GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 8	Posted - 2012.06.02 01:32:00 - [23] - Quote Archimedes Eratosthenes wrote: Rengerel en Distel wrote: The purpose of hulkageddon is to make even more money for goonswarm, while feasting on supposed tears from miners. I'm sure both endeavors are fruitful enough for them to consider it pretty successful. You are wrong. The purpose of Hulkageddon is to allow The Butthurt Mitanni to get revenge on CCP for his 30-day ban by striking at their wallet. Look at you, it's almost like you don't realize that Burn Jita and Hulkageddon were planned before fanfest.
Corina Jarr Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built 797	Posted - 2012.06.02 01:39:00 - [24] - Quote I personally feel that Hulkageddon is to kill off all the whiny, unwilling to adapt miners to make way for the intelligent, willing to accept other's play styles miners. Thus improving the quality of the community as a whole. Of course, once those miners come into existence, ganking will go down the crapper as the lazy gankers realize they can't have their easy lulz anymore. Then it will be the few extremely dedicated gankers verses a few intelligent miners. then EVE will be perfect. But hey, what do I know. I'm not even out of High School yet.
Nicolo da'Vicenza Divine Power. Cascade Imminent 1070	Posted - 2012.06.02 01:58:00 - [25] - Quote mining is completely dictated by player-driven supply and demand. If you in a retriever was low profit, it was because hundreds if not thousands of users in max-yield hulks afk mining away drove the price down/
Le Dei Opus Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 20	Posted - 2012.06.02 01:59:00 - [26] - Quote Corina Jarr wrote: I personally feel that Hulkageddon is to kill off all the whiny, unwilling to adapt miners to make way for the intelligent, willing to accept other's play styles miners. Thus improving the quality of the community as a whole. Of course, once those miners come into existence, ganking will go down the crapper as the lazy gankers realize they can't have their easy lulz anymore. Then it will be the few extremely dedicated gankers verses a few intelligent miners. then EVE will be perfect. But hey, what do I know. I'm not even out of High School yet. There is a prize for you to be had. Nearly 1 billion total. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=116399&p=5
Kimmi Chan Perkone Caldari State 62	Posted - 2012.06.02 02:00:00 - [27] - Quote Le Dei Opus wrote: I'm I'm going to be forced to watch my screen endlessly, I may as well do something enjoyable and more profitable like WH's. This literally made me laugh out loud. No one and I mean no one is forcing you to watch your screen. But to have the belief that you can not pay attention and at the same time not be in danger is ludicrous. Furthermore, doing something more enjoyable is kind of the point. You are essentially stating that mining and paying attention to the space around you is not enjoyable. I commend you on finding something more enjoyable and profitable. Intelligence shouldn't be free. by Mors Sanctitatis
Le Dei Opus Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 20	Posted - 2012.06.02 02:53:00 - [28] - Quote Kimmi Chan wrote: Le Dei Opus wrote: I'm I'm going to be forced to watch my screen endlessly, I may as well do something enjoyable and more profitable like WH's. This literally made me laugh out loud. No one and I mean no one is forcing you to watch your screen. But to have the belief that you can not pay attention and at the same time not be in danger is ludicrous. Furthermore, doing something more enjoyable is kind of the point. You are essentially stating that mining and paying attention to the space around you is not enjoyable. I commend you on finding something more enjoyable and profitable. There might be a prize for you too There is a prize for you to be had. Nearly 1 billion total. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=116399&p=5
Shepard Wong Ogeko GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 27	Posted - 2012.06.02 05:17:00 - [29] - Quote Le Dei Opus wrote: So CCP lost 4 of my 5 subscriptions and a rather robust source of tritanium. Many others with alt mining accounts have followed through with what I have done. I'm I'm going to be forced to watch my screen endlessly, I may as well do something enjoyable and more profitable like WH's. Good for you. Seriously, mining for trit is something you do in tutorial missions. With the 1 man fleet you were running there, you took it about as far as it could go. As you've found out for yourself though, Eve has a lot more than highsec veldspar, and pretty much all of it is better isk than the most common mineral in the game. You might want to resub those accounts and get them trained up to support your new found sources of wealth. Then you can be the one to laugh as you make bank supplying nullsec with materials for the Tengu fleets they love to throw around.
Ocih Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums 218	Posted - 2012.06.02 05:26:00 - [30] - Quote WTS Hulk pilot for Rifter

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