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Michwich	Posted - 2009.08.28 15:21:00 - [1] Edited by: Michwich on 28/08/2009 15:22:51 Im finding my options kinda limited in this game, the only reason I find myself playing is to wait for a skill to train to see if it gets any funner. I know it would be funner with friends or a group but so is every ****ty activity. My question is, what do you solo players do for fun? Id rather not PVP because its too expensive, and from what Ive tried solo pvp doesnt work well in the game, plus Im not really into emo pvp, im more of a arena style sports pvp guy but I wouldnt mind trying it if it didnt take a week of grinding to do it enough where you can get comfortable. So no PVP. I tried mining that was boring, I tried exploring that was fun but tediouse and not enough rewards. I tried running through 0.0 , had some fun with that until it hit me there wasnt much profit in smack talking emos. So these days Im finding my options pretty limited to mining, or npc ratting. Id try some missions but for some reason my sec status wont let me contine with the story line. So what do you solo players do for fun in this game?
Skaara	Posted - 2009.08.28 15:28:00 - [2] what u need is social structure just as real life
Spectre3353 Gallente The Python Cartel.	Posted - 2009.08.28 15:28:00 - [3] Well obviously my opinion is my opinion and everyone won't share it, but I think that Eve is an absolutely terrible game is pretty much every aspect except for the PvP which is an incredible amount of fun. If you don't like to or want to PvP then I think you are playing the wrong game. ----- The Python Cartel - My Pirate Blog
Khemul Zula Amarr Keisen Trade League	Posted - 2009.08.28 15:31:00 - [4] Learn to love spreadsheets. cuddles with his market/production spreadsheets
Michwich	Posted - 2009.08.28 15:33:00 - [5] Edited by: Michwich on 28/08/2009 15:33:58 Originally by: Skaara what u need is social structure just as real life No you dont, this is a game not life, what you need is something fun to do that doesnt require grouping. Anyone got some ideas?
Zartanic	Posted - 2009.08.28 15:36:00 - [6] Edited by: Zartanic on 28/08/2009 15:36:32 Although I solo myself no MMORPG is a solo game, especially EVE, and solo will eventually get boring unless our like me an enjoy doing stupid things solo players are not supposed to do. There are many corps out there who will accept a casual lone player style, maybe join them for a start. IF you don't like it then just leave the corp. In the meantime try scanning and Wormholes/exploration sites or DED complexes in low or null sec.
Hoo Is	Posted - 2009.08.28 15:37:00 - [7] Originally by: Michwich Edited by: Michwich on 28/08/2009 15:33:58 Originally by: Skaara what u need is social structure just as real life No you dont, this is a game not life, what you need is something fun to do that doesnt require grouping. Anyone got some ideas? Look a **** while AFK Ice Mining ---- a reply which adds nothing to a thread or results in a thread being bumped with no new discussion worthy content is considered spam and as such warrants a forum ban
Zartanic	Posted - 2009.08.28 15:40:00 - [8] Edited by: Zartanic on 28/08/2009 15:41:04 Originally by: Michwich Edited by: Michwich on 28/08/2009 15:33:58 Originally by: Skaara what u need is social structure just as real life No you dont, this is a game not life, what you need is something fun to do that doesnt require grouping. Anyone got some ideas? A MMORPG means social structure. Its the whole point of them. What is with all these stupid posters recently who won't listen? Also there is a ton of stuff to do did you not read? Another bloody troll.
iP0D	Posted - 2009.08.28 15:40:00 - [9] EVE was never designed for solo play. There are a lot of things you can do solo, but none of them are very exciting. Since it is an MMO, the focus for fun is in found in that acronym. You could get a second account, and roleplay your own corporation with people inside it. If you're really averse to interacting with other human beings, you could always aspire a career as a spook. It'll mean dealing with people, but on your terms, and once the job is done you can party on your own and get all delirious about it as there is nobody you can tell that you can consequently leave alive.
N'tek alar Minmatar	Posted - 2009.08.28 15:41:00 - [10] Originally by: Michwich Edited by: Michwich on 28/08/2009 15:22:51 So what do you solo players do for fun in this game? Most of them learn that this isn't a solo game and either join a corp/find some people to play with or quit. ------------------------- I'm not shirtless damnit!

iP0D	Posted - 2009.08.28 15:43:00 - [11] Someone please post the obligatory "can I has ur stuff" comment ...
Michwich	Posted - 2009.08.28 15:46:00 - [12] Originally by: iP0D Someone please post the obligatory "can I has ur stuff" comment ... Can I have your stuff?
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2009.08.28 15:48:00 - [13] Originally by: Michwich Originally by: iP0D Someone please post the obligatory "can I has ur stuff" comment ... Can I have your stuff? Well played.
Rilwar BlackStar Industrial	Posted - 2009.08.28 15:49:00 - [14] If you want to solo in EVE, This is the activity of choice. ------------------------------------------------- Mitnal was here.
Lord Haur Amarr StarHunt	Posted - 2009.08.28 15:49:00 - [15] You could always mine Veldspar in a dreadnaught and become the most trusted person in eve
Michwich	Posted - 2009.08.28 15:57:00 - [16] Edited by: Michwich on 28/08/2009 15:58:33 Originally by: N'tek alar Originally by: Michwich Edited by: Michwich on 28/08/2009 15:22:51 So what do you solo players do for fun in this game? Most of them learn that this isn't a solo game and either join a corp/find some people to play with or quit. Hmm thats unfortunate because this game has the potential to be a real good solo freindly mmo imo. I know many of you play games soley for the social aspect of them, but there are many that dont, infact more than do apparently since the trend in mmo's has been toward more solo friendly content because people just flat out rejected games with group heavy content. Hence the need for solo friendly activities in THIS game.
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.08.28 16:02:00 - [17] Quote: Im finding my options kinda limited in this game In a game based on the concept of group play, do you really find this surprising? Thats a bit like playing Gran Tourismo and complaining that you can't use your sweet ride to pick up chicks in game. However, I strongly sense you are just trolling since you state you don't wish to "emo PVP" yet your sec status is apparently to low to do a story line mission. Nice try except for that slip, I give it 7/10. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you.
mcnuggetlol Amarr Via Crucis Inc.	Posted - 2009.08.28 16:02:00 - [18] Why would you play an MMO but not want to interact with anyone? Maybe X3 or freelancer or something's more suited for you?
Zartanic	Posted - 2009.08.28 16:03:00 - [19] Originally by: Michwich Edited by: Michwich on 28/08/2009 15:58:33 Originally by: N'tek alar Originally by: Michwich Edited by: Michwich on 28/08/2009 15:22:51 So what do you solo players do for fun in this game? Most of them learn that this isn't a solo game and either join a corp/find some people to play with or quit. Hmm thats unfortunate because this game has the potential to be a real good solo freindly mmo imo. I know many of you play games soley for the social aspect of them, but there are many that dont, infact more than do apparently since the trend in mmo's has been toward more solo friendly content because people just flat out rejected games with group heavy content. Hence the need for solo friendly activities in THIS game. There is a ton of stuff to do solo, more than WOW which I played for 4 years. You have been given a list, if you do not like them then its the game you don't like. If your tired of the game that's fair enough, don't blame the game though, its just not for you.
Contralto GCHQ	Posted - 2009.08.28 16:08:00 - [20] I have been playing since 05, I have 4 accounts, income is around 1.5 Bill per week. Joined a corporation in my first month, quit a week later and never looked back. You don't need to be tied by an umbilical to other players to enjoy Eve, I run lvl 5 Missions, build my own ships, trade, invest in Ipo's/bond issues etc. What most people forget is that to do all those activities relies on interaction with other players. Tying yourself to a group is entirely optional. Is anyone suggesting that most famous of solo players, Chribba, doesn't enjoy his game? or doesn't interact with thousands of other players during his "solo" activities? Most people cant function without constant direct support from others, its human nature to congregate in groups/gangs etc. but that doesnt mean we all have to be "Sheep" herded by Ceo sheep dogs. To the Op, you sound like your a group orientated player who has found himself out in the cold and is lost, I never had any problems finding many things to do in Eve right from the time I left that first corp nearly 4 years ago. Set yourself goals and work your way toward them. If you cant find anything interesting to do using your own initiative then you will just have to find a corp and let them lead you by the nose, They will always find a task to keep you busy.

Davich MacGregor Minmatar Stellar Products and Quality Resources	Posted - 2009.08.28 16:10:00 - [21] EVE was made to be a griefers paradise. Finding different ways to gank/scam/grief people can be very entertaining and fullfill the need to ruin someone's day. It's even encouraged in EVE. I would suggest you go over to the dark side.
Alexis Machine Minmatar Asmoday Entertainment	Posted - 2009.08.28 16:14:00 - [22] I've played solo for 6 years. lol. Well.. occasionally I join a corp with friends.. but I don't really participate in corp ops. For "social crap" I hang out in random chat channels. You can solo in Eve. I wont bother listing stuff to do as you've already mentioned you didn't enjoy some of the things I do, and others have posted stuff you can do.. whatever. I just wanted to chime in with "Just because it's an MMO doesn't mean you have to play WITH other people.. only that you have to play AGAINST other people."
Marcus Druallis Quantum Industries RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.28 16:16:00 - [23] Originally by: Spectre3353 Well obviously my opinion is my opinion and everyone won't share it, but I think that Eve is an absolutely terrible game is pretty much every aspect except for the PvP which is an incredible amount of fun. If you don't like to or want to PvP then I think you are playing the wrong game. I agree with this guy. While you CAN play EVE and not engage in PVP, I find it to be quite pointless. PVP is what EVE was made for. It's what the game is all about. --
Zartanic	Posted - 2009.08.28 16:17:00 - [24] Edited by: Zartanic on 28/08/2009 16:23:49 Originally by: Contralto ... If you cant find anything interesting to do using your own initiative then you will just have to find a corp and let them lead you by the nose, They will always find a task to keep you busy. The Op is looking for a game to lead him by the nose. There are a few out there who cater to the ultra casual. To me the solo parts of EVE are vast and obvious but maybe to others they are not. Lets see what you can do solo: 1. Play the market 2. Research 3. PVP 4. Exploration 5. Missions (Missions are designed for solo) 6. Wormholes - these give several solo opportunities including leading to low/null sec, PVP, exploration sites, good loot. WH's are a solo players dream as they do not contain bubbles and gate camps. 7. Scanning/expeditions 8 Build your own POS (can be done) 9 Mining (boring though solo) 10 Manufacturing 11 Invention 12 Any of the numerous 'grief' type activities such as scamming or ninja salvaging Then you have the ones you work out for ourself such as challenges. Maybe try and live in low sec for a while or low/nul sec mission running. There's probably more but I play solo and I'm always busy with a ton of stuff I have not done yet. Other games give you an easy and obvious target to aim for which for me is boring as those games also restrict you, EVE does not. In WOW I had to make up my own challenges as I was getting bored to hell with the spoon fed content. But WOW is not designed for that, EVE is. So think of something to do that is hard and work towards it. Make your own challenges and fun, its what EVE is all about. My aim is to build a one man POS in WH space. I will probably fail horribly but its fun working my way to it.
Arakash Mond Amarr	Posted - 2009.08.28 16:20:00 - [25] Edited by: Arakash Mond on 28/08/2009 16:21:49 I would suggest acquiring another account and then grouping with yourself. This way you avoid interactions with other people and yet you get to group with the person you most enjoy spending time with. I have tried it, pretending to not know what my group mate (myself) is doing or thinking. Sort of like a ventriliquist act if you will. I enjoyed it for a while especially PvPing with the dreaded solo pirates who try to sneak up on barge's innocently mining away in low sec space. What they didn't realize was that my group mates (me) BS was hidden away waiting for them. Once though my group mate did'nt respond at all due to some personal differences between us and we parted ways Good luck
Adunh Slavy	Posted - 2009.08.28 16:27:00 - [26] Trade. A solo player, willing to take some risk can make a lot of ISK, and you do not need a big ship to do it. In fact, a little ship is better for some kinds of things. The Real Space Initiative - V5 (Forum Link)
Michwich	Posted - 2009.08.28 16:42:00 - [27] Edited by: Michwich on 28/08/2009 16:42:48 Originally by: Ranger 1 Quote: Im finding my options kinda limited in this game In a game based on the concept of group play, do you really find this surprising? Thats a bit like playing Gran Tourismo and complaining that you can't use your sweet ride to pick up chicks in game. However, I strongly sense you are just trolling since you state you don't wish to "emo PVP" yet your sec status is apparently to low to do a story line mission. Nice try except for that slip, I give it 7/10. I wasnt aware this game was for groups only since I had no problem playing this game solo but I feel the options are limted for that style of play. Im not hearing any suggestions that I havent already done before in my short time playing so Ill take that as evidence toward the argument. "emo PVP" is a word i like to describe the style of PVP in this game, theres no slip, you can call it what youd like but please dont call it PVP. Id like to differentiate soemhow from more skillfull forms of PVP, youre talking to a former Duke3D and Quake champion. However the style of PVP is directly tied to the whole solo unfriendly nature of this game and now that I think about it could be an area where It could attract that style of player. In the form of arena style pvp matches. Imagine space arenas where corp sponsored teams fought for money and fame and where spectators could watch and wadger on the matches. The point being theres a system that lets casual players participate in something that otherwise would require a group to do. Guild Wars has "random" arenas where youre randomly put on a team for pvp matches. Then theres "team" arenas where teams interested in organization can form prior to the matches. Thats just one idea for more casual/solo friendly things to do and what other games have already done to fill that player need. Theres no reason why this game cant do the same. And the low sec status, well some chick wanted me to pod her in rancer one saturday night, and being a pod virgin i couldnt resist. Turned out she was in my npc corp and I caught some bad security status. But seriousely the sec status and corp status is so convoluted , hows a noob supposed to know any better. For the longest time I thought low sec was where you were supposed to pvp.
Another Liberthas Caldari Ha'Menudim SCUM.	Posted - 2009.08.28 17:07:00 - [28] Originally by: Michwich dont call it PVP. Id like to differentiate soemhow from more skillfull forms of PVP, youre talking to a former Duke3D and Quake champion. Wat
Gunnanmon Gallente UNITED STAR SYNDICATE	Posted - 2009.08.28 17:09:00 - [29] Originally by: Michwich Edited by: Michwich on 28/08/2009 15:33:58 Originally by: Skaara what u need is social structure just as real life No you dont, this is a game not life, what you need is something fun to do that doesnt require grouping. Anyone got some ideas? Play a single-player game? Signature locked for discussing moderation. Navigator
Saartje Sarel	Posted - 2009.08.28 17:15:00 - [30] Edited by: Saartje Sarel on 28/08/2009 17:16:32 without resorting to flippancy, eve is very much a team game. unfortunately, a lot of the atmos within the game comes accross as being individualistic or solo-nerd. this is because, sadly, most geeks, nerds, gimps, asperger's drones, weird beards and sociopaths are also social ****s. unfortunately the game was designed for people slightly better socially adjusted than the vast majority of fat middle aged virgin weirdos who populate it. therefore some creativity is neccessary to build anything fun and lasting - see goo(d)swarm as the template on how to make a corp into something insanely effective simply by not recruiting the weird bastards who frequent high sec. that said the pve end of the game is rubbish, I agree and the people who find it fun, once or twice are fine by me. the freaks who log in 5 hrs a day to do nothing but missions are evidently undiagnosed autistic freaks. nuff said. you might find this is a trend among most mmo players and thankfully, eve is one of the few that doesn't cater entirely to their tastes. so there is at least SOME competition and some variety and groups of intelligent and motivated people WITH charisma and social/communication skills can do very very well in a short space of time. if none of that makes sense or appeals to you, I suggest you email david braben and tell him to get a **ing move on. I would but he already took out a court order against me and I'm only sixteen weeks into my parole.



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