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Tokp Lotas
the united
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Posted - 2009.09.03 21:12:00 -
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Public petition to take back the spanish tutorials.
When Apocrypha expansion was deployed at begins of 2009 the spanish tutorials (and some other already translated tutorials) stoped working. Some days ago, we started to send petitions protesting for this issue, and the answer that we received was that this isn't an issue, that CCP doesn't support non-offical languages. After that, they encouraged us to write a public petition on the forums... So, here it is.
We want that CCP bring back us all the spanish tutorials that we had before the Apocrypha Expansion.
First thing I would like to say is that we are not after a spanish client, we are only after the Spanish tutorials. Spanish is the 3rd more spoken language in the world. CCP is a company, and we are almost sure they deeply studied this and if they decided to don't make a full translation they will have its reasons. But we don't think that translating the tutorials would be a huge issue since they were translated before. The first question that new spanish people do is if the tutorials are translated and lot of them are discouraged to continue playing when they find tutorials are not translated.
There are some spanish communtys trying to cover this hole. And would be a huge help if CCP supported us a bit since we are ready to help CCP in all we can in this aspect.
Note: This is not a discussion thread, this is only a petition. You can find a discusion thread about this here Discusion thread
Thanks for your attention,
Tokp Lotas
Staff Member of www.eve-online.es |
Mrs Rabbit
Hidden Rabbit Industries
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Posted - 2009.09.03 21:23:00 -
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/Signed
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Bungow
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Posted - 2009.09.03 21:25:00 -
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/Signed
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Urieri
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Posted - 2009.09.03 21:29:00 -
[4]
/Signed
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FatalException
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Posted - 2009.09.03 21:30:00 -
[5]
/Signed
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Les Grom
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Posted - 2009.09.03 21:34:00 -
[6]
/signed |
jerusik
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Posted - 2009.09.03 21:36:00 -
[7]
/signed
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Al Bolder
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.09.03 21:45:00 -
[8]
/Signed
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hEtt
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2009.09.03 22:02:00 -
[9]
/Signed
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Lord Lorkaz
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Posted - 2009.09.03 22:43:00 -
[10]
/signed
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Baranman
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Posted - 2009.09.03 22:54:00 -
[11]
/Signed
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.09.03 23:10:00 -
[12]
Moved to Assembly Hall for [Support] tags.
Zymurgist
Community Representative
CCP Hf, EVE Online
Contact us |
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Kaesarr
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Posted - 2009.09.03 23:16:00 -
[13]
/signed
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Sendara Amarri
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Posted - 2009.09.03 23:22:00 -
[14]
Signed!
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Te Hari
BLACK SKY Exploration and Development
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Posted - 2009.09.03 23:27:00 -
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hahah How is that an unofficial language? I hear it every time i call a corporation.
I may not speak Spanish but i can see this is wrong.
/signed
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
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Posted - 2009.09.03 23:35:00 -
[16]
Everyone is speaking english here....
Hmm.. imagine that.
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CEO of Shadow Cadre
http://www.shadowcadre.com
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Himphotep 87
Caldari
Sesquipedalian
Eternus Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.03 23:59:00 -
[17]
/signed
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Kimizu Malaster
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Posted - 2009.09.04 00:06:00 -
[18]
/signed
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GilGalaad
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Posted - 2009.09.04 00:06:00 -
[19]
/signed
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Pharago
Piratas Leprosos Guineanos
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Posted - 2009.09.04 00:10:00 -
[20]
of course, i mean, por supuesto
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Kukala
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Posted - 2009.09.04 00:10:00 -
[21]
/Signed
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Kimizu Malaster
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Posted - 2009.09.04 00:16:00 -
[22]
/signed
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Urieri
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Posted - 2009.09.04 00:19:00 -
[23]
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Tokp Lotas
the united
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Posted - 2009.09.04 00:36:00 -
[24]
/agree
Staff Member of www.eve-online.es |
starlyns
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Posted - 2009.09.04 00:53:00 -
[25]
singed
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Redflare
Caldari
Lompoc-Amish Industrial Labs
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Posted - 2009.09.04 01:13:00 -
[26]
/signed
I don't know about CCP, but I speak Eng and Esp and I know for people from s. america, mexico, and cuba (if anyone plays from cuba), it would be immensely helpful. Hell, its already in chinese.
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UnNombre
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Posted - 2009.09.04 05:22:00 -
[27]
signed
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Dival
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Posted - 2009.09.04 06:13:00 -
[28]
/Signed
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Ivams
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Posted - 2009.09.04 06:16:00 -
[29]
/Signed
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Miniac
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Posted - 2009.09.04 06:18:00 -
[30]
/signed
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Serghinyo
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Posted - 2009.09.04 07:22:00 -
[31]
/Signed
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Dalamaro
Knights of the Silver Dawn
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.04 07:37:00 -
[32]
/Signed
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Hamish Nuwen
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Posted - 2009.09.04 09:39:00 -
[33]
/Signed
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David Me
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Posted - 2009.09.04 10:29:00 -
[34]
/Signed
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NuclearSi
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Posted - 2009.09.04 10:36:00 -
[35]
 Originally by: Redflare
/signed
I don't know about CCP, but I speak Eng and Esp and I know for people from s. america, mexico, and cuba (if anyone plays from cuba), it would be immensely helpful. Hell, its already in chinese.
Well, chinese IS the most spoken language in the world after all, where spanish is the 4. Optional download would be nice, but I don't want any unnecessary content in my client whether it was chinese or spanish. |
Michael SP
The Star League
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Posted - 2009.09.04 11:12:00 -
[36]
I'm not spanish, but I can't see any reason not to give us back the spanish tutorials. Supported. |
Kaede Yamaguchi
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Posted - 2009.09.04 12:50:00 -
[37]
Edited by: Kaede Yamaguchi on 04/09/2009 12:50:10
/signed
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lantiano
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Posted - 2009.09.04 12:51:00 -
[38]
/signed
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venty
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Posted - 2009.09.04 12:52:00 -
[39]
/signed
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Prucilla
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Posted - 2009.09.04 12:53:00 -
[40]
/signed
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DJ MULER
SPANI
T o r m e n t u m
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Posted - 2009.09.04 12:54:00 -
[41]
Edited by: DJ MULER on 04/09/2009 12:54:00
/signed
HUNTER |
flfxtr
Tormentum Insomniae
T o r m e n t u m
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Posted - 2009.09.04 12:55:00 -
[42]
/signed
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Axiom Empire
Fenix Reloaded
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Cynes 2
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Posted - 2009.09.04 12:56:00 -
[43]
/signed
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Gyoji
InDev Corporate
T o r m e n t u m
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Posted - 2009.09.04 13:14:00 -
[44]
/signed
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Cirax
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.09.04 14:57:00 -
[45]
/signed
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PantherTech
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Posted - 2009.09.04 15:36:00 -
[46]
/Signed
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Dretzle Omega
Global Economy Experts
Stellar Economy Experts
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Posted - 2009.09.04 18:31:00 -
[47]
Edited by: Dretzle Omega on 04/09/2009 18:30:43
Don't see why not, so...
/signed
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Narsus
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Posted - 2009.09.05 03:30:00 -
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Edited by: Narsus on 05/09/2009 03:35:25
Edited by: Narsus on 05/09/2009 03:32:11
just because she asked me...
/f... signed
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Stuntman Dan
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Posted - 2009.09.05 03:30:00 -
[49]
/signed
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Kai Miya
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Posted - 2009.09.05 03:31:00 -
[50]
/signed
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grebnedlog kram
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Posted - 2009.09.05 03:50:00 -
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Not only do I whole heartedly agree with this.
I think for a company who insists that any racist comments a transgression of the EULA.
Having poli-lingual game content be currupted by a CCP upgrade and NOT fixing it is at the VERY least bad service and bordering on racist.
/signed.
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Nfilada
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Posted - 2009.09.05 07:05:00 -
[52]
/signed
SOY LA OSTIA |
Dyana
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.09.05 07:36:00 -
[53]
/up
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maphell
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Posted - 2009.09.05 09:37:00 -
[54]
/signed
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Sophie Malaster
EuroMECH Tech Market
ARTESANOS
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Posted - 2009.09.05 11:51:00 -
[55]
/signed
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Acreon Sextus
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Posted - 2009.09.05 12:07:00 -
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/ signed
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Crackpipe2000
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Posted - 2009.09.05 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: grebnedlog kram
Not only do I whole heartedly agree with this.
I think for a company who insists that any racist comments a transgression of the EULA.
Having poli-lingual game content be currupted by a CCP upgrade and NOT fixing it is at the VERY least bad service and bordering on racist.
/signed.
WTF are you talking about?? Ran out of your presicribed medication? |
Vesspasiano
Big Guns Inc.
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.05 18:04:00 -
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/signed
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Mehez
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Posted - 2009.09.06 21:55:00 -
[59]
/agree
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Luthenis
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Posted - 2009.09.06 22:13:00 -
[60]
/signed
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Nekmet Awai
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Posted - 2009.09.07 09:01:00 -
[61]
with all the other issues up right now, that is seriously a total wasted of time...
what about the swedish, dutch, german, franch,, etc etc etc tutorial?.
very simply all english, if you don't know the languish learn it.
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Tokp Lotas
the united
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Posted - 2009.09.07 15:46:00 -
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This is not a discussion thread, just support it or not. U can post on discusion thread if u want. I promise u that i don't go to read that thread.
Staff Member of www.eve-online.es |
Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2009.09.07 20:37:00 -
[63]
/signed. 
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Cholfo
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Posted - 2009.09.17 09:30:00 -
[64]
/signed
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darkezze
Ultima Resistencia
E C L I P S E
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Posted - 2009.09.17 10:00:00 -
[65]
/Signed! hu~ ha ha ha~ 
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Orlak
Ultima Resistencia
E C L I P S E
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Posted - 2009.09.17 10:37:00 -
[66]
/signed
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zxsc
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.09.17 10:45:00 -
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there are lot's of spaniards, and other spanish speakers who join this game and cannot understand a single word in english, if it was there before, i can't understand why it's so dificult to bring it back and make the game a bit easier for them.
/signed
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saizar
Sons of the Cartel
E C L I P S E
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Posted - 2009.09.17 11:03:00 -
[68]
Edited by: saizar on 17/09/2009 11:03:55
/signed
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Argentine Hysteria
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Posted - 2009.09.17 11:09:00 -
[69]
/signed
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Akalis Esp
Sons of the Cartel
E C L I P S E
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Posted - 2009.09.17 11:15:00 -
[70]
/signed
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Molmol
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Posted - 2009.09.17 11:23:00 -
[71]
/signed
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Maximus Trollus
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Posted - 2009.09.17 12:08:00 -
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I demand swahili tutorials for all those swahili speaking people.
Just imagine... learning english... the horrible waste of time...
nothing personal but learning english can only have positive effects people.
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OxyG3n2143
BlackWater Tactical
E C L I P S E
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Posted - 2009.09.17 12:38:00 -
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/Signed
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c42manel
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Posted - 2009.09.17 12:49:00 -
[74]
/signed..
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Kram Mutara
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Posted - 2009.09.17 13:02:00 -
[75]
Edited by: Kram Mutara on 17/09/2009 13:04:36
/Signed
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evil thork
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Posted - 2009.09.17 13:49:00 -
[76]
through the tutorial in Spanish over a year I've been playing this great game
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DBlarney
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Posted - 2009.09.17 14:06:00 -
[77]
/Signed
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ppmilks
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Posted - 2009.09.17 14:44:00 -
[78]
/signed
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Captain Becket
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Posted - 2009.09.17 15:29:00 -
[79]
/signed |
manel mac
Caldari
FW Scuad
E C L I P S E
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Posted - 2009.09.17 16:07:00 -
[80]
Signed
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Race Drones
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Posted - 2009.09.17 16:47:00 -
[81]
/signed
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Xunantunich
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Posted - 2009.09.18 07:47:00 -
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/agree
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Zriel
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Posted - 2009.09.18 20:21:00 -
[83]
/signed
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Uncle Smokey
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Posted - 2009.09.18 20:29:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Maximus Trollus
I demand swahili tutorials for all those swahili speaking people.
where can i sign? |
Dierdra Vaal
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Posted - 2009.09.19 12:29:00 -
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Edited by: Dierdra Vaal on 19/09/2009 12:33:09
Edited by: Dierdra Vaal on 19/09/2009 12:32:03
Not supported.
I'll explain why. First, it would be great if we could help (through tutorials) everyone, regardless of their language. I'm a big fan of more new players in the game - Eve needs this to be healthy. However, translating the tutorials is not a trivial task (with ever-changing tutorials), and a big question is if you want to have tutorials in language A, while everything else in the game is in language B?
Assuming we're ok with having specific localized tutorials and spending developer time on it, should spanish be one of those languages? Sure it is the fourth (after mandarin, english and hindi) most spoken language in the world - but does this apply to eve as well?
This devblog of the most recent CSM elections shows that this is not the case. According to the devblog (see the list of voters by country, then % of subscribers), the 10 most spoken languages in Eve are:
1: English (US + UK + english part of Canada (78%) + Australia + New Zealand) - 58.3%
2: German (Germany + Austria) - 9.39%
3: Russian (Russia) - 5.44%
4: French (France + french part of belgium (50%) + french part of Canada (22%)) - 3.9%
5: Dutch (Netherlands + dutch part of belgium (50%)) - 2.6%
6: Danish (Denmark) - 2.1%
7: Swedish (Sweden) - 2%
8: Norwegian (Norway) - 1.35%
9: Finnish (Finland) - 1.1%
10: Polish (Poland) - 0.8%
In fact, spanish (Spain + parts of latin and middle america) is so under represented that None of the top 21 countries speaks spanish. This also shows why only english, german and russian are the officially supported languages.
So while spanish is the fourth most spoken language in the world, it is only spoken by an exceedingly small part of the Eve population. It would be more likely and reasonable to include a french or dutch or even polish tutorial than it would be include a spanish one.
Director of Education :: EVE University
Chairman of the CSM
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prusiel
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Posted - 2009.09.21 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Dierdra Vaal
So while spanish is the fourth most spoken language in the world, it is only spoken by an exceedingly small part of the Eve population. It would be more likely and reasonable to include a french or dutch or even polish tutorial than it would be include a spanish one.
I only say that you lose players for this reason
Most of them only speak Spanish and don't understand english
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Hoo Is
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Posted - 2009.09.21 17:09:00 -
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Can I get Arabic, Hindi, Tamil, Bengali, how about Welsh, Farsi is an important one too, and for the doctors and philosophers how about Latin.
Isn't there something in the rules about talking in English?
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Tyler Dourden
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Posted - 2009.09.26 06:18:00 -
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/signed
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Menetir Akhaly
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Posted - 2009.09.29 01:34:00 -
[89]
/signed
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IPET
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Posted - 2009.10.11 22:33:00 -
[90]
sure
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Bomberlocks
Icarus Prime
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Posted - 2009.10.12 00:22:00 -
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/signed -- I play in English, but I've been in french corp and fly with some german guys on occasion. I love the huge international mix of eve and don't think that other languages should be neglected, especially languages which have a large player base, such as spanish.
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Odins Blood
Nagrom Security Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.10.12 03:17:00 -
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/not supported
learn english or another supported language. everybody speaks english german or russian here (basically)so learn that. and how is it racist? the language spanish is not a race. spanish as in from the country of spain is racist. and brazil speaks Portuguese. so how about that too so all of south america is covered (along with the other languages).
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Laianim
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Posted - 2009.10.26 14:49:00 -
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Edited by: Laianim on 26/10/2009 14:49:01
Signed
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