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Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
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Posted - 2012.06.04 06:27:00 -
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Summer the season of brilliant new titles and gaming innovations If I were the person I was half a year ago , I would sell my car to get to E3 to have my taste of the future But now .... I'm not sure if its just me , or are other video games getting increasingly dull after I've started playing EVE Online
Max Payne ? meh , seen it , done that Ghost Recon? nothing new... Bioshock Infinite? what?
other video game titles just doesn't excite me anymore , compared with EVE online , they are just...... lack luster and repeatitive , the instant gratification just doesn't give me an adrenaline rush anymore whats the value of accomplishment when you didn't even have to work for it??
now , I don't know if thats a good thing or not , but I'm just putting it out there , wondering if anyone feels the same way as I do.
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
290
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Posted - 2012.06.04 06:41:00 -
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Really hard to play another MMO after EVE. I do play other games but if it is a time intensive game I can't even bother, EVE is time intensive enough. |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
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Posted - 2012.06.04 06:54:00 -
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Vaal Erit wrote:Really hard to play another MMO after EVE. I do play other games but if it is a time intensive game I can't even bother, EVE is time intensive enough.
I see I am not alone |
Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.04 06:57:00 -
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Only MMO I've played for the last four years
Continuous development of FIS, WIS, PVP, PVE, new star bases, core technology and UI improvements will keep me here indefinitely. |
Bernie Nator
Talocan Hive Talocan United
291
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Posted - 2012.06.04 06:58:00 -
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I hear Elder Scrolls Online is coming out at some point.
Still not internet spaceships though... |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.06.04 07:01:00 -
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World of Warplanes....
That is all. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
Lexmana
Imperial Stout
510
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Posted - 2012.06.04 07:01:00 -
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When I get tired of EVE I play The Impossible Game on my phone/pad. I might need help. |
Fairhand
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.04 07:02:00 -
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You could try Arma 2 with the DayZ zombie mod. It is a FPS with PvP. I know the mod is still in development but it has the tension, it is hard and you don't know if the zombies or the other players are the worse threat. |
Tor Gungnir
Agenda Industries
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Posted - 2012.06.04 07:08:00 -
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It is actually easy to play EVE casually, moreso than most other MMOs, thanks to the skill queue system. Gallente is what America believes itself to be.
Caldari is how America is in reality. |
Sri Nova
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.04 07:09:00 -
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Gaming has taken a huge step backwards it has been occurring for quite awhile. i was going to place a number on the years but the more i thought about it the more i realized just how much we have lost .
R.I.P Star Wars Galaxies R.I.P. Allegiance (not really dead but only a shadow) R.I.P. Earth and Beyond
At some point the industry shifted and stopped offering in depth game experiences .
games became more streamlined and less about exploring the mechanics and or the environment .
More and more games placed the player in a limited environment that controlled their exposure to the game world. Forcefully directed their progress through the game and reduced the challenge to accomplish in game goals.
Choice and variety has been removed from alot a games you will find that in many games, player tools are reduced to 3 or 4 types and balanced poorly. When i say poorly i mean that the developer has subscribed to the theory that every tool should be within line with the other. Making all the tools pretty much the same as the other albeit with just a different skin and effect.
These changes maybe an effect , that gaming has become a much more demanding process on developers. Art assets are a true problem these days as they are freaking expensive in both time and money .
Game engines requiring more elaborate methods to interact in the environments and probably require special talents from a talent pool that is already limited.
These factors take time and money from building an epic game.
Yet there is still light at the end of this tunnel the recent successful kick starters have shown that their is a demand for better and more creative titles.
With the highly successful indie market proving that their is good ideas and talent still out there, hopefully with these two combining we will see a third renaissance in gaming . |
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Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
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Posted - 2012.06.04 07:09:00 -
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Yeah, hehe, I recently ran through a few Classic FPS games. Though fun (Bioshock 1+2, Quake 4, DX:HR, Prey, Doom 3 etc.) there was something severely lacking.
Risk.
If I die all my stuff is still there, maybe my health is a bit lower then before but no problem, candy bars all around. Worst that can happen is I die just before a checkpoint and I have to go through the level again.
And I know these are not MMO's but what I've gathered from other MMO's is that the same thing applies to them as FPS's, no risk at all.
So I'm stuck with EVE forever it seems since no-one else dares to take the glove up agains CCP's game philosophy.
Who needs television when you have EVE? EVE drama, best drama. |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club
100
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Posted - 2012.06.04 07:09:00 -
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Well, maybe it's not that other games are really dull, maybe it's because Eve gives all we really want from a game.
You have MMO without skills grind, pvp is everywhere either direct (shooting ppl) or indirect (market competition), economy is not created by elves, almost no boundaries in what you can do, you have drama, you have politics, you have trolls, you have shakes after a fight, you have quite heavy industrial side, you have missions, "uncharted" places in form of wormholes, constant progress in graphics, scheduled expansions adding more of everything mentioned above (especially drama)...
It's hard to go and kill gnomes when you just blown somebody's spacepixels into oblivion and killmail shows it was worth 40 real live euro/dollars and you know somewhere somebody is raging right now :)
I admit, this weekend I played Max Payne 3 a lot but it's because I like this series. And it has a nice story, Max is great character to play, Sao Paulo is nice location to "visit" with a gun in your hand and the way they show us Max's reality full of booze and painkillers with shattering vision and stuff is great but... I know I will return to Eve in no time. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Espen Egak
Bootleg Vitamin Something Posing As Meat
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Posted - 2012.06.04 08:17:00 -
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Fairhand wrote:You could try Arma 2 with the DayZ zombie mod. It is a FPS with PvP. I know the mod is still in development but it has the tension, it is hard and you don't know if the zombies or the other players are the worse threat.
I this mod aswell it's the most awesome and entertaining shooter ever made :) i hope it'll get better server response though. |
Nariya Kentaya
Tartarus Ventures Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2012.06.04 08:21:00 -
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Bernie Nator wrote:I hear Elder Scrolls Online is coming out at some point.
Still not internet spaceships though... i saw that, it's gameplay design isn't even worthy of being considered an Elder Scrolls game, i mean, class-based combat with catoony/stylized graphics? they are just reskinning WoW and calling it Tamriel. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.04 08:21:00 -
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I only started playing a year ago. Eve is awesome. |
Makkal Hanaya
Drakenburg
11
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Posted - 2012.06.04 08:30:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote: If I were the person I was half a year ago , I would sell my car to get to E3 to have my taste of the future
The person you were half a year ago was an idiot. Be glad you're not her.
Ivy Romanova wrote: I LOVE EVE !!! its perhaps one of the BEST games I've EVER played
Love the enthusiasm. although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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Kopfy
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Posted - 2012.06.04 08:36:00 -
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EVE is the game you play while playing other games, in the sense that you'll always come back to EVE other games not so much. I play Dark Souls, Demons Souls and Skyrim when i don't feel like playing EVE for a while. But i always come back to EVE.
EVE infinity because if you get hooked you'll never really leave. |
Cloned S0ul
Blood Fanatics
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Posted - 2012.06.04 08:45:00 -
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I wait for Outerra Anteworld, potenial good game where people may sink into it like to minecraft but still in alpha. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA7s6oyl3vo
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Jandice Ymladris
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction
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Posted - 2012.06.04 08:47:00 -
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Have to agree there, Eve offers a depth & impact almost no other game can offer these days. The player driven market, the single sharded universe (one server where everone plays) and the fact you're nowhere truly safe adds to the game. You know you make an impact, however small it is on the game.
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Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
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Posted - 2012.06.04 09:54:00 -
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Kopfy wrote:EVE is the game you play while playing other games, in the sense that you'll always come back to EVE other games not so much. I play Dark Souls, Demons Souls and Skyrim when i don't feel like playing EVE for a while. But i always come back to EVE.
EVE infinity because if you get hooked you'll never really leave.
afk miners can suck it |
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Korsiri
Mousetrap Building Inc.
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Posted - 2012.06.04 11:33:00 -
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when you've been playing for a while, meaning a few years, you've pretty much seen it all. They can get better eye candy, maybe a new subsystem, some supposedly revolutionary gameplay but still be fairly predictable. I see this as a two fold problem: people are people, they just can't think that far outside the box, always, at least in a timely manner, so that a new game would be something waaaay different and done soon enough that people could actually play it (or maybe that's just effort versus reward). The other reason is accounting - why make something truly innovative, when the old model works and makes money? This is not just for MMOs but all games.
I've been a gamer a long time. There just aren't that many unique games out there. It's hard to be excited by new games when they're just more of the same old same old. Maybe a little prettier, but to this jaundiced eye, it's more about the gameplay. That's exactly why I like Eve. You can make it prettier if you want, and I do enjoy what's been done so far, but it's more about how we play, and what we're allowed to do, that makes it the best game out there imo.
Plus there really isn't another sandbox, except in RPGs like the Elder Scrolls series. I dunno why they all went to cookie cutter where you can't even interact with the environment, fully.
Anyway, tl;dr: games come and go in cycles, only sandboxes can continue being innovative as an entire game instead of a single, simple system |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2012.06.04 11:41:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:Summer the season of brilliant new titles and gaming innovations If I were the person I was half a year ago , I would sell my car to get to E3 to have my taste of the future But now .... I'm not sure if its just me , or are other video games getting increasingly dull after I've started playing EVE Online Max Payne ? meh , seen it , done that Ghost Recon? nothing new... Bioshock Infinite? what? other video game titles just doesn't excite me anymore , compared with EVE online , they are just...... lack luster and repeatitive , the instant gratification just doesn't give me an adrenaline rush anymore whats the value of accomplishment when you didn't even have to work for it?? I LOVE EVE !!! its perhaps one of the BEST games I've EVER played its like French gourmet , but sometimes , you'll just ,miss the old old burger ,sadly , you can't enough put it in your mouth without pulling faces now , I don't know if thats a good thing or not , but I'm just putting it out there , wondering if anyone feels the same way as I do.
If this is a letter of love to CCP Soundwave you have to ask Goonswarm agreement first. (bzzzz bees are coming)
Also: bring a couple bottles of Jack single barrel, then we can discuss.
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Miang Hawwa
Amphysvena
2
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Posted - 2012.06.04 11:45:00 -
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Guild Wars 2 - Interesting Final Fantaxy XIV Re-launch - We'll see Diablo 3 - Disappointed Crysis 3 - Looks good Warface - I'll have to try Max Payne 3 - I like it TES Online - Maybe I'll give it a chance... maybe not SWtOR - Fail Black Ops 2 - Let's see... Dark Souls Prepare To Die Edition (PC) - I'll buy it The Secret World - Fail Rift - Fail Mechwarrior Online - I like it. I'll give it a try Hawken - Nice graphics. Let's see the gameplay
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Kopfy
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Posted - 2012.06.04 12:22:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:Kopfy wrote:EVE is the game you play while playing other games, in the sense that you'll always come back to EVE other games not so much. I play Dark Souls, Demons Souls and Skyrim when i don't feel like playing EVE for a while. But i always come back to EVE.
EVE infinity because if you get hooked you'll never really leave. afk miners can suck it
I think you misunderstood me. What i meant with "EVE is the game you play while playing other games" was that whatever game you try or buy you always log in to EVE in the evening. Not that you play an other game at the same time as EVE, and as you answered afk mine, but in between you EVE sessions. Maybe not the best phrasing but this is the way i read it in a thread similar to this one.
In my opinion to AFK mine isn't really to play the game. But that's just me. |
Bernie Nator
Talocan Hive Talocan United
291
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Posted - 2012.06.04 15:51:00 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:Bernie Nator wrote:I hear Elder Scrolls Online is coming out at some point.
Still not internet spaceships though... i saw that, it's gameplay design isn't even worthy of being considered an Elder Scrolls game, i mean, class-based combat with catoony/stylized graphics? they are just reskinning WoW and calling it Tamriel. That's actually really disappointing. Here I was hoping for something innovative and then have to go and do that?
Well, maybe the alchemy system will be broken, so you can make oodles of gold before getting high level. |
Yatama Kautsuo
State War Academy Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2012.06.04 15:55:00 -
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it's the exact same feeling i have after i played 2.5 years of darkfall online... every other game got destroyed with this experience i had... sadly it pretty much died, that's why i don't play it anymore... i tried eve afterwards and it's the only thing which is interesting for more than one year so far and i have so much more to discover...
speaks for eve i guess :)
still, i miss darkfall so much |
Echo Vector
Odyssey SEC Phoenix Virtue
0
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Posted - 2012.06.04 16:03:00 -
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Frankly, the damned game has ruined me for life.
I've been playing "games" since Hunt the Wumpus on mainframes back before a lot of you were born.
This thing, however, has taken the cake. And the icing. And a damned large chunk of my time, money, soul........etc.
The really sad part?
I wouldn't trade one second of it from then til now for anything.
And that is after freely admitting that I sucked huge cheesy balls at this game when I first started playing and all these years later I *STILL* suck huge cheesy balls.......I amaze myself at the never-ending ways that I find to fail most epicly.
That I continue to log on and subject myself to the torture ( and my opponents to the lulz ) is testimony to the allure the game holds over me.
Or to my stupidity and insanity.........
Take your pick.
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Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
251
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Posted - 2012.06.04 16:05:00 -
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Eve is as boring as the rest if you play it long enough and you're not a bully or a thug. |
Price Check Aisle3
53
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Posted - 2012.06.04 16:07:00 -
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I just started playing Ultima 7 for the second time. |
Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
27
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Posted - 2012.06.04 16:18:00 -
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Now EvE Online does a lot of things well and is generally the best MMO game that I have played.
However it can only do certain things, so for example it will never be a close combat, fantasy, skyrim like FPS on one server. It will never be a MMO set in modern times or for example world war 2 as an FPS like Arma 2 [I want that]. Nor a civilization style MMO [at least not yet].
For the moment it will also never be an RTS such as end of nations even though in my opinion it has some rts characteristics. It will also never be a casual pick up and play fps on multiple servers like planetside 2 [dust 514 doesn't count because its connected to tranquility]. Neither will it be something like Mechwarrior Online. It also has a few things missing for me such as being able to make your own currency, multiple pilots/controller to a ship, direct piloting of a ship and such-forth [such as Infinity: Quest For Earth, whenever that comes out]. Eve Online doesn't have everything.
For me however a true in-depth MMO that I will play all the time has to have one server, one universe from now on. Basically it would have to share the characteristics of eve. However I could also make do with a casual MMO like Planetside 2, to play alongside my main MMO [someone make a tribes MMO please!]. |
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