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Taladool
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Posted - 2009.09.17 01:29:00 -
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Joe, are you really that high on yourself? I mean to think your a good leader?
Then again, what if Jeo was just an alt of someone else doing this for ****s and giggles on the side which is why he has so many times where he has "RL issuse"
2nd, I am not 100% sure, but I think this is the first ever post on the eve-online forums from in the in game browser.
This thing kicks ass!
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W1ckd Munch
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Posted - 2009.09.17 01:36:00 -
[122]
Joe,
Thank you for offering to answer any question.
What is your highest level of education IRL?
Do you still wake up with a woody every morning?
Do you struggle with acne?
Are you being treated for any psychological or behavioral disorders?
Are you a repressed custodial engineer or subjected to bullies in the school yard?
Do you realize that in order to lead, you must first be able to communicate effectively?
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g0ggalor
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Posted - 2009.09.17 03:01:00 -
[123]
 Originally by: Joe Phoenix
I think i should lead because i am a natural leader, basicly.. some people are biult to lead, others are biult to annoy people who lead.
And what qualities make do you think you have as a "natural leader?"
Honestly, what SPECIFIC leadership qualities do you have?
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Fix'Tar
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Posted - 2009.09.17 04:27:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Trok Mienal
Originally by: Zedrik Cayne
Um, who would pay Trok off? Its certainly not me. I rarely tend to have two shiny isk to rub together. (Well, right now I've had a couple very amused individuals donate to the IEEE to continue our good works, so I'm a bit more flush than I would normally be.)
So, who do you know has paid Trok off? While we here at the IEEE are not above paying spies isk for information (It is a necessary evil sometimes, and we typically pay very badly.) We have not paid Trok, (nor, come to think of it, anyone) during this investigation.
Please, if you wish to level an accusation have some kind of proof behind it. We have ample proof from multiple sources of the levels of incompetence that have been shown by you and your leadership. So please, do share.
PS: Popcorn stocks have been replenished all over New Eden from factories in both Amarr and Jita. Please don't forget to purchase your official IEEE branded popcorn enjoyment paraphernalia. NEW: Official 'Joe Show' branded buckets, buttery topping, bags, branded kernel corn, salt dispensers, and flavor shakers.
Indeed. However as I may have said before, if people wish to donate some ISK to me in order to help me get back on my feet I would gladly accept it. The amount of damage done to me is quite high. I mean I do understand it was my choice to stay and try to help the members still there. None the less, any donations of any size and in any form during these trying times I am much appreciative for. I donated so much to the I.C. in the form of everything from time to assets. Now I surely could use a bit of the same kind of compassion I showed others. Just saying :).
-Trok Mienal
Poor Trok. I know I lost quite a few ships, but you were donating so much that when you realized how terrible Joe really was at running a corp you must have felt totally taken. I mean from what I understand you did not really follow the forums or anything until a bit into the whole situation started. As nobody else was really mailing members to warn them of the trouble Joe was getting himself and his corp into on the forums, when you found out you must have been shocked. From what I remember you were donating your own ships and equipment to the corp and putting others before yourself. Something you don't see many people do often at all in any game especially a game like EVE. So you must be out quite a lot in the end.
Well check your wallet when you get on Trok. Joe said that someone paid you for the actions you took, this is something we all know is untrue. Now it comes down to helping out the man who helped out so many others in there time of need. I know 10 Mil might not be a lot considering what that ****er Joe took from so many members including you (Joe replacing ships ya right), but I hope it helps you somewhat as its all I can really spare. I hope you read this Joe, because you need to understand that people like Trok are really hard to come by in any game. He does so much to help people and asks for almost nothing in return. This isn't paying Trok for what he did, this is helping to save him from all the trouble you caused him Joe.
Fly safe man, and keep up the good work. Someone has to warn all those new players he recruits what the score really is. I am glad its you, I am sure you will do a great job.
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Hadesgate
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Posted - 2009.09.17 06:21:00 -
[125]
Dear Joe Phoenix,
On page 3 post 65 you say that You corp is NOT a dimocracy, because its not working. (so i presume you are the boss)
However your reply on a series of Questions see (post 89 page 3) you are telling us that you do not
have to apologize to your members because they are not YOUR members...
If this is indeed the case, than who is running The Imperial Commonwealth?
And i believe that when you go for a dictatorship or communism you can actually take whatever you want without any consequenses.
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Lana's Alt
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.09.17 06:53:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Fix'Tar
Poor Trok. I know I lost quite a few ships, but you were donating so much that when you realized how terrible Joe really was at running a corp you must have felt totally taken. I mean from what I understand you did not really follow the forums or anything until a bit into the whole situation started. As nobody else was really mailing members to warn them of the trouble Joe was getting himself and his corp into on the forums, when you found out you must have been shocked. From what I remember you were donating your own ships and equipment to the corp and putting others before yourself. Something you don't see many people do often at all in any game especially a game like EVE. So you must be out quite a lot in the end.
Well check your wallet when you get on Trok. Joe said that someone paid you for the actions you took, this is something we all know is untrue. Now it comes down to helping out the man who helped out so many others in there time of need. I know 10 Mil might not be a lot considering what that ****er Joe took from so many members including you (Joe replacing ships ya right), but I hope it helps you somewhat as its all I can really spare. I hope you read this Joe, because you need to understand that people like Trok are really hard to come by in any game. He does so much to help people and asks for almost nothing in return. This isn't paying Trok for what he did, this is helping to save him from all the trouble you caused him Joe.
Fly safe man, and keep up the good work. Someone has to warn all those new players Joe recruits and fill them in on what the score really is. I am glad its you, I am sure you will do a great job.
Fix
This bought a tear to my eye and almost made me want to give the 170M that used to be Joe's to Trok...
Istvaan Shogaatsu: As with most such situations the answer is simple: rob them first. |
Myleena
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Posted - 2009.09.17 07:21:00 -
[127]
How old are you Joe?
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Fix'Tar
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Posted - 2009.09.17 07:24:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Lana's Alt
This bought a tear to my eye and almost made me want to give the 170M that used to be Joe's to Trok...
I suppose the key word there is almost. I am sure Trok could use it, but I think he could use it even more just to stick it to Joe. Or at least that's how I would use it hehe. No but really, I do feel bad for Trok. He is a genuinely good person who tried to do all he could for those members and ended up with a really raw deal. But that's why EVE can be such a great game. Because the moral or immoral decisions you make have such a big impact on people. Sadly I am sure that doesn't give Trok any comfort. The most he can really hope for is that someone tries to help him out or enough people war dec Joe to the point he stops recruiting and in the process give Trok some comfort.
I just hope someone does end up helping Trok out.
Fix |
Dracoknight
Eternal Guardians Corp.
The Covenant Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.17 08:14:00 -
[129]
Geez, this is even worse than the episode with ThCEO...
...Seriously Joe, is it so hard to accept what people is saying to you?
They do have PROOF for their acusations, i have yet to see proof for why this would be lies from your part except for your poorly chosen words which only dig your own grave rather than keeping your head over the water.
Do yourself a favor Joe Phoenix, stop now while you still can..
btw: you said you didnt like the spotlight, have it ever struck you that if you just shutted up and let this pass with a single formal apology to the corp you orginally treathen and all those you have insulted this would never had happend?
Anyway, i am glad you didnt shut up, it just removed another useless CEO from using new players of EVE to their own fanatic gains and a goal that had no hope of acomplish.
Anyway, good show Zedrik... i would like 2 big popcorns and a large Pepsi Max and those fancy 3D Googles you have over there.
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Ace Greywolf
Caldari
Greywolves
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Posted - 2009.09.17 10:06:00 -
[130]
Edited by: Ace Greywolf on 17/09/2009 10:13:22
For the love of god Joe... why cant you just suck it up and take it like a man,
and admit to yourself that you have failed!
People do make mistakes, make bad judgements and thats good cause they normally learn something out of it.
Now this whole thing could teach you lot of things, firstly how to be better CEO if you only
would listen what people are saying to you and stop to think for a minute what you have done wrong in this extravaganza or could of done diffenrently ,and then apologize everybody concerned for your your actions and wrongdoings.
Personally i think your basic idea of your company is great, i like it but you are just not the man to make that happen, you could be though if you just stop that stubborn behaviour and stop lying ,doubletalking,cheating , smacking etc...etc and concentrate on learning from your mistakes!!
Anyways thats my 20 cents on the matter, Zed,Trok --Salute-- to you both! good job!fly safe!
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Gaelan Lionhardt
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.09.17 12:40:00 -
[131]
Ok Joe here we go, solve this problem;
You need to transport an Amarrian Slaver, a Minmatar Slave and a bag of Wheat to the next system. You only have room for one item at a time in the Industrial.
You can't leave the Minmatar Slave alone with the Wheat because the Minmatar Slave is starving and will eat the Wheat.
You can't leave the Ammarian Slaver alone with the Minmatar Slave because that would be cruel and messy!
"How can you get the Amarrian Slaver, the Minmatar Slave and the bag of Wheat to the other system?"
A better test of leadership there isn't! |
Gaelan Lionhardt
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.09.17 13:02:00 -
[132]
Wow an interesting thought just crossed my mind what if;
Trok is Joe
And this entire thing is an over elaberate hoax/scam, that would be... interesting and clever.
Important: Joe Phoenix is not Trok Mienal, or at least I have no reason to beleive he is. |
Myleena
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Posted - 2009.09.17 13:33:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Gaelan Lionhardt
Edited by: Gaelan Lionhardt on 17/09/2009 13:06:29
Ok Joe here we go, solve this problem;
You need to transport an Amarrian Slaver, a Minmatar Slave and a bag of Wheat to the next station. You only have room for one item at a time in the Shuttle.
You can't leave the Minmatar Slave alone with the Wheat because the Minmatar Slave is starving and will eat the Wheat.
You can't leave the Ammarian Slaver alone with the Minmatar Slave because that would be cruel and messy!
"How can you get the Amarrian Slaver, the Minmatar Slave and the bag of Wheat to the other station?"
A better test of leadership there isn't!
Rules for the "out of the box" thinkers:
During the test only 2 stations (the one your in and the one your going to) can be used and a single shuttle in case you say something dumb like "I'd buy an industrial"
Edit to clarify rules
Take the slave to the station, go back and get the slaver. Pick up the slaver, transport him and swap him for the slave. Take the slave back and swap him for the wheat. Transport the wheat, go back and get the slave.
What do I win?
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Myleena
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Posted - 2009.09.17 13:39:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Gaelan Lionhardt
Wow an interesting thought just crossed my mind what if;
Trok is Joe
And this entire thing is an over elaberate hoax/scam, that would be... interesting and clever.
Important: Joe Phoenix is not Trok Mienal, or at least I have no reason to beleive he is.
This did cross my mind too. What if it's all an elaborate scam by Joe to make us feel sorry for Trok and give him donations of infinite wealth?
Fix'Tar could be a alt he's using just for this purpose, looks like Lana's already being taken in!
Damn I LOVE the Joe Show!
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Gaelan Lionhardt
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.09.17 14:37:00 -
[135]
Edited by: Gaelan Lionhardt on 17/09/2009 14:42:11
Quote:
What do I win?
You win nothing for telling the OP the answer, thanks for that. Also anything you did win would be taken off you for answering a question not directed at you, I hope you dont find yourself in the audience of a game show anytime soon
Id like to point out that anyone who attended high school would know the answer to that "riddle"
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Myleena
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Posted - 2009.09.17 15:37:00 -
[136]
You seriously think he would have bothered to reply even if he could work it out?
I was 'excluded' from school for breaking in one night and taking a dump in the deputy headmasters office, so I think I did rather well considering.
Anyway, we digress.
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jhon whang
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Posted - 2009.09.17 16:13:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Gaelan Lionhardt
Edited by: Gaelan Lionhardt on 17/09/2009 13:06:29
Ok Joe here we go, solve this problem;
You need to transport an Amarrian Slaver, a Minmatar Slave and a bag of Wheat to the next station. You only have room for one item at a time in the Shuttle.
You can't leave the Minmatar Slave alone with the Wheat because the Minmatar Slave is starving and will eat the Wheat.
You can't leave the Ammarian Slaver alone with the Minmatar Slave because that would be cruel and messy!
"How can you get the Amarrian Slaver, the Minmatar Slave and the bag of Wheat to the other station?"
A better test of leadership there isn't!
Rules for the "out of the box" thinkers:
During the test only 2 stations (the one your in and the one your going to) can be used and a single shuttle in case you say something dumb like "I'd buy an industrial"
Edit to clarify rules
Shoot the slave, make the slaver fly himself to the next station to pick up his pay check, and brew a tasty beverage from the wheat. Easy.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.09.17 16:28:00 -
[138]
Hello, Joe!
I had a discussion with the wonderful, insightful legend Sera Ryskin, who is unfortunately unable to engage in this question and answer session. Out of this discussion, I have the following questions:
Why, after issuing the following threat to Merin:
"if you ever do run into me, il kill you, hands down" did you fit a full rack of WCS and run away like a little girl when she came to you to give you the opportunity to carry out that threat?
Why did you offer a bounty on Merin's Raven (not CNR as you claimed, you ran like a girl from a standard Raven) to your corp and suggest that your members (most of them newer players for whom this would be suicide) hunt her down, while you were too scared to do it yourself.
Do you feel that this is appropriate behavior for a leader, hiding in the back while begging other people to do your job for you, and providing no advice or support beyond "bring lots of ships"?
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2009.09.17 17:39:00 -
[139]
I believe he is the second coming of Raptor Jesus
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Faithful Delegate
Amarr
Hashimoto Corporation
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Posted - 2009.09.17 18:06:00 -
[140]
Joe,
It might do well to let people help you who have offered to do so.
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LarcatOfRens
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Posted - 2009.09.17 19:58:00 -
[141]
wut
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Zeriel Meholick
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Posted - 2009.09.17 20:29:00 -
[142]
Wow. I thought I knew what ridiculous was, until this day.
I do have a question, though: Joe, why do you think it is that literally no one believes your "clarifications" and "corrections" and accusations of impropriety? Do you seriously think every single EVE veteran except you is a flaming jerk?
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Beersheeba
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Posted - 2009.09.17 20:37:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
The Commonwealth stands for a radical idea, the idea goes againest everything new eden is currently based on. The aquisition of wealth, self importants, greed have all become the base on which the majority of pilots base these lives on.
The commonwealth is different, it effectively spits in the face of these values, so we exspect to be met with hostility.
Thank you for your question.
your ideas are intriguing. if i want to find out more, is there a newsletter or blog I can follow ?
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Lytia Tranaki
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Posted - 2009.09.17 20:38:00 -
[144]
Is your spell-checker broken, or did you really fail 3rd grade english?
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Abenham
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Posted - 2009.09.18 03:21:00 -
[145]
Joe Phoenix speaks fluent French? Check it out:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1175981&page=5
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Hadesgate
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Posted - 2009.09.18 05:46:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Abenham
Joe Phoenix speaks fluent French? Check it out:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1175981&page=5
Joe Phoenix > ca va bian marsie, pardon je na pa parla en francie
so no he does not speak fluent french. even with my limited french knowledge, joe is telling him he cannot speak french and the sentence should be more like this:
ca va bien (not bian)
pardon je ne parle pas Fransaic.
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Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2009.09.18 12:02:00 -
[147]
It's Frantais, isn't it? Been a long time since my high school french, though.
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Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? |
Trok Mienal
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Posted - 2009.09.18 13:51:00 -
[148]
Edited by: Trok Mienal on 18/09/2009 13:51:49
Originally by: Beersheeba
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
The Commonwealth stands for a radical idea, the idea goes againest everything new eden is currently based on. The aquisition of wealth, self importants, greed have all become the base on which the majority of pilots base these lives on.
The commonwealth is different, it effectively spits in the face of these values, so we exspect to be met with hostility.
Thank you for your question.
your ideas are intriguing. if i want to find out more, is there a newsletter or blog I can follow ?
Best funny on all these Joe threads so far. Like Joe ever had the organizational or spelling skills to run a website or blog. He cant even run a pretend spaceship game corporation properly. However in saying that when I was back in the I.C. he did ask me to run a website as he did not have the skills to do so. I turned him down as at that point I knew this was going downhill and did not want to spread the crap he was shoveling me further onto the internet. Also the only reason he says the acquisition of wealth is not important is because he A. does not know how to gain any wealth in any way unless it is stealing from members or buying ISK, and B. because he refuses to admit these things he turns down any ideas on how to gain some wealth from members right away. Such as the many many Industrial plans I put forward. As for those "values" Its not so much that he spits on these values directly either, its just he spits in the face of anyone with different ideas from his own. This is somthing I learned very quickly in the ending days I was in the I.C. Saying there was anything wrong with the current situation was grounds to be called a traitor. Therefore how can anyone propose change when there ideas differ from Joes. Up until the other day he was more then happy to collect taxes and just sit on them.
If you really want to find out Joes great ideas and don't want to take my word, ask any of the many many people who left the I.C. what kind if ideas he has for a corp. You will find they will all say his ideas and morals are just as bad as has been reported here. Especially those who were around for the SSS war.
-Trok
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Face Palmer
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2009.09.18 14:13:00 -
[149]
OMFG!
PLEASE let this be troll of the decade.
If not; Oh the humanity......
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Htrag
The Carebear Stare
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Posted - 2009.09.18 14:53:00 -
[150]
Is this the same Joe Phoenix that liked to run around Passari in a badger? This dude is legendary.
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