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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2009.09.15 23:36:00 -
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I would like to hold a press conference in order to answer questions and hopefully dispell rumours that have been going on concerning the Imperiel Commonwealth and myself.
You may ask any question you wish as long as it is in a civilised and respectful manner. I will try and answer them to the best of my ability.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.09.15 23:43:00 -
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lol
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Ninja Troll
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Posted - 2009.09.15 23:47:00 -
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Errr, what's a commonwealth?
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2009.09.15 23:51:00 -
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Edited by: Joe Phoenix on 15/09/2009 23:51:57
Originally by: Ninja Troll Errr, what's a commonwealth?
A commonwealth is where the members work together in order to increase the prosparity of ever member in the corp.
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc.
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Posted - 2009.09.15 23:55:00 -
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I really do hope that you've been trolling this whole thing all along cause it would be hilarious. If you weren't and you're serious then it's even more hilarious albeit in a different way.
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Gaius Weyland
Caldari Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate Emergence.
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Posted - 2009.09.15 23:56:00 -
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Why do you feel so many people mock you and belittle you?
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2009.09.16 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: Gaius Weyland Why do you feel so many people mock you and belittle you?
The Commonwealth stands for a radical idea, the idea goes againest everything new eden is currently based on. The aquisition of wealth, self importants, greed have all become the base on which the majority of pilots base these lives on.
The commonwealth is different, it effectively spits in the face of these values, so we exspect to be met with hostility.
Thank you for your question.
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robbyx
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Posted - 2009.09.16 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix
You may ask any question you wish as long as it is in a civilised and respectful manner.
What are you wearing ?
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Gaius Weyland
Caldari Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate Emergence.
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Posted - 2009.09.16 00:02:00 -
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Do you not think you are alienating other corporations by saying how much better you are over them? Be it true or not, certainly not my place to say, this would affect them?
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Gentileman
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Posted - 2009.09.16 00:04:00 -
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What will it take for me to become as unaware of how ******ed your ideals are as you seem to be?
Also, How do you expect to survive the ensuing (or soon to ensue) ****train?
I respect your dedication to remaining a bottom feeder, but it's time for you to step out of the tiny pin-***** of spotlight you think you inhabit, little man.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2009.09.16 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: Gaius Weyland Do you not think you are alienating other corporations by saying how much better you are over them? Be it true or not, certainly not my place to say, this would affect them?
good question,
Maybe we are alienating other corps. Many other corps are simply interested in making money, others are simply interested in killing. However we do make a point of intergrating ourselves With honorable corps, EVE university for example.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2009.09.16 00:11:00 -
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Originally by: Gaius Weyland Do you not think you are alienating other corporations by saying how much better you are over them? Be it true or not, certainly not my place to say, this would affect them?
I don't think he said anything like that. Just said his corp didn't operate the same way as others do.
If you think a corp that doesn't just benefit a few at the top sounds better just for that, perhaps you should consider joining?
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Gaius Weyland
Caldari Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate Emergence.
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Posted - 2009.09.16 00:11:00 -
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But the mere nature of corporations is to work together towards a common goal, such as you defined the Commonwealth to be earlier. If this goal is acquisition of wealth or kills who are you to say these are negative?
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2009.09.16 00:12:00 -
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Originally by: Gentileman What will it take for me to become as unaware of how ******ed your ideals are as you seem to be?
Also, How do you expect to survive the ensuing (or soon to ensue) ****train?
I respect your dedication to remaining a bottom feeder, but it's time for you to step out of the tiny pin-***** of spotlight you think you inhabit, little man.
We have survived this long, we are not scared for anyone who is governed by the oposite beliefs.
And for your infomation, i would glady step out of the spot light, but it has a way of finding me.
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Moroboshi Ataru
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Posted - 2009.09.16 00:17:00 -
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As of right now he's in Airaken. He was afk on a gate in Korsiki. Still see three active wardecs on him.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2009.09.16 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Gaius Weyland But the mere nature of corporations is to work together towards a common goal, such as you defined the Commonwealth to be earlier. If this goal is acquisition of wealth or kills who are you to say these are negative?
Well we like to think as the verse as a child, a defencless, innocent child. With this image we can determin what is right or wrong. For example, killing this child.. would not benifit the child, niether would financiel starvation. So knowing this, we can judge a moral position.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2009.09.16 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: Gaius Weyland But the mere nature of corporations is to work together towards a common goal
Apparently you missed all the news stories about CEOs 'retiring' with 50 million dollar retirement packages while the company went bankrupt and was unable to pay the workers for months of work.
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t l
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Posted - 2009.09.16 00:22:00 -
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Why did you accept me into your corp and then kick me out?
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2009.09.16 00:23:00 -
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Edited by: Joe Phoenix on 16/09/2009 00:24:20 A corporation is a business.. the Commonwealth is not.
TL i did not accept you, a rogue agent accepted you without clearing it first.
I would be happy for you to join the Commonwealth, you just need to provide an API code first.
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Gaius Weyland
Caldari Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate Emergence.
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Posted - 2009.09.16 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: Gaius Weyland But the mere nature of corporations is to work together towards a common goal
Apparently you missed all the news stories about CEOs 'retiring' with 50 million dollar retirement packages while the company went bankrupt and was unable to pay the workers for months of work.
I had been trying to keep RL separate to EVE, I still have hope in EVE for some greater good, not much, but some.
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Khemul Zula
Amarr Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.09.16 00:24:00 -
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Any comment on the video supposedly showing the leader of the Imperial Commonwealth engaged in various sexual acts with 3 Minmatar women, 2 Gallente men, an Amarrian woman, and what appears to be a couple of Slaver Hounds?
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2009.09.16 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Gaius Weyland
Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: Gaius Weyland But the mere nature of corporations is to work together towards a common goal
Apparently you missed all the news stories about CEOs 'retiring' with 50 million dollar retirement packages while the company went bankrupt and was unable to pay the workers for months of work.
I had been trying to keep RL separate to EVE, I still have hope in EVE for some greater good, not much, but some.
It's pretty much the same here, only not as noticeable.
Was quite a wakeup for me to run my own medium POS, and see how little fuel and isk it takes to run them. The tax is pretty much pure profit for the average CEO in game. I can only see it necessary in corps with dozens and dozens of stations.
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Gaius Weyland
Caldari Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate Emergence.
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Posted - 2009.09.16 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula It's pretty much the same here, only not as noticeable.
Was quite a wakeup for me to run my own medium POS, and see how little fuel and isk it takes to run them. The tax is pretty much pure profit for the average CEO in game. I can only see it necessary in corps with dozens and dozens of stations.
Maybe I have been lucky then with my corp then, tax I see is pumped back into the corp
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2009.09.16 00:38:00 -
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Originally by: Gaius Weyland Maybe I have been lucky then with my corp then, tax I see is pumped back into the corp
Bread and Circuses.
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Gaius Weyland
Caldari Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate Emergence.
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Posted - 2009.09.16 00:42:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: Gaius Weyland Maybe I have been lucky then with my corp then, tax I see is pumped back into the corp
Bread and Circuses.
If you say so :)
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Tyr Vaantau
Amarr Synthetic Frontiers
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Posted - 2009.09.16 00:50:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Gaius Weyland Why do you feel so many people mock you and belittle you?
The Commonwealth stands for a radical idea, the idea goes againest everything new eden is currently based on. The aquisition of wealth, self importants, greed have all become the base on which the majority of pilots base these lives on.
The commonwealth is different, it effectively spits in the face of these values, so we exspect to be met with hostility.
Thank you for your question.
You're a Socialist? ------
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2009.09.16 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: Gaius Weyland
Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: Gaius Weyland Maybe I have been lucky then with my corp then, tax I see is pumped back into the corp
Bread and Circuses.
If you say so :)
I'm paranoid and cynical by nature, which is worth noting.
You must admit most EVE players are self sufficient, though, and asking for things in corps is frowned upon. With those things in mind, the tax is somewhat pointless.
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Lord Windu
Echelon Warfare Unit
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Posted - 2009.09.16 00:59:00 -
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I really do not understand you, I keep thinking you are a troll but then people keep telling me that you are really this stupid, and I am inclined to believe them.
On topic: My question to you is, should Kanye West be publicly executed for being a douche and if no then what do you think should happen to him Oh and how cool is Obama for calling Kanye a Jackass.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2009.09.16 01:05:00 -
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kayne west is a dushbag for the most part, but obama just mades himself sound self richious by calling him a jackass, didn't he do basicly the same pupilarity stunts?
And on subject, why are our idiels stupid?
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2009.09.16 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: Tyr Vaantau
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Gaius Weyland Why do you feel so many people mock you and belittle you?
The Commonwealth stands for a radical idea, the idea goes againest everything new eden is currently based on. The aquisition of wealth, self importants, greed have all become the base on which the majority of pilots base these lives on.
The commonwealth is different, it effectively spits in the face of these values, so we exspect to be met with hostility.
Thank you for your question.
You're a Socialist?
Yes, in a manner of speaking.
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Ninja Troll
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Posted - 2009.09.16 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Tyr Vaantau
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Gaius Weyland Why do you feel so many people mock you and belittle you?
The Commonwealth stands for a radical idea, the idea goes againest everything new eden is currently based on. The aquisition of wealth, self importants, greed have all become the base on which the majority of pilots base these lives on.
The commonwealth is different, it effectively spits in the face of these values, so we exspect to be met with hostility.
Thank you for your question.
You're a Socialist?
Yes, in a manner of speaking.
When you say Socialist, if you're saying you simply hate everyone equally, then we just may have something in common.
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Zeek Muaka
Caldari Antares Shipyards Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.09.16 01:50:00 -
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Where the hell is Zedrik?
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Alhambra Trellane
Imperium Forces
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Posted - 2009.09.16 02:00:00 -
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For those of you who have erroneously read this topic thinking it was constructive, head over to C&P and read this thread: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1175981
Then come back and enjoy the lulz.
HYRDA WILL PROVAIL!
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Zedrik Cayne
Gallente Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2009.09.16 03:09:00 -
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Originally by: Zeek Muaka Where the hell is Zedrik?
Someone rang? I rarely hit General Discussion. (reading) --
Originally by: "RedSplat" You're the internet equivalent of a Deepfried Mars bar filled with stupid.
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Ariel Stonetalker
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Posted - 2009.09.16 04:19:00 -
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Joe:
I see that you finally wised up and started asking for API keys. Good for you. I have three questions.
1: Do you inform new recruits into Imperial Commonwealth as to your multiple wars, or the existence of other corporations wishing to do you harm once the cost for a wardec lowers?
2: Since you claim to be a commonwealth, do you have an established plan for distributing shares, and thus control, to all or some of your members either now or at some point in the future? If so, do you intend to reserve a permanent majority of the Imperial Commonwealth shares to yourself?
3: Do you grant your members access to audit either your personal wallet, or the corporation's wallet?
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Octavious102
Serene Storm Society
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Posted - 2009.09.16 04:43:00 -
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Hi Joe, I think its fantastic that you're holding a press conference to clear your name.
1. In Zedrik's thread it was uncovered that you have a Youtube account that is severely biased against America and Americans; chat logs also show this kind of behavior (and they are not edited, I am an eye witness). Your profile name was also 'googled' and found on white supremacist groups. Now if that is your profile (and I do believe it is), you have a 'white supremacist fist' as your profile picture. Is there any truth to all of this?
2. Why, when there is proof beyond a shadow of a doubt, would you deny chat logs showing your rambunctious behavior and smack? When you know that they are not edited? I can see there is a sense of pride to being considered 'clean' in the EVE community, but I believe that none of this would have happened if you 'manned up' to your behavior.
I believe answering these questions will help (or possibly dampen) your standing with the community.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.09.16 05:08:00 -
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Imagine that, an arsehat that plays eve. woo..
Quote: [03:39:05] Emperor Salazar > HOLY **** ITS ZEBA [03:39:20] Emperor Salazar > NEVER STOP POASTING
Zeba is the BEST! ~Mitnal |
Lana's Alt
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.09.16 05:08:00 -
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Can I attend?
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Zedrik Cayne
Gallente Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2009.09.16 05:24:00 -
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Hello Joe...Zedrik Cayne from the IEEE here.
Just a few questions.
1) Why do you continue to recruit during war time? While under most circumstances, recruiting during war is just plain stupid. Under these circumstances, with such a large amount of public attention on you and your corporation, why do you continue?
2) You have admitted to being a bad trader. Your posts regarding trade routes, freighters, and that side of trading in general also show a lack of basic knowledge about how that particular side of the game works. Why ever would you continue to play the market instead of trying to find a source of income for your corporation.
3) Your corporate tax rate is 10%. Where did all the corp isk go besides your own personal wallet? Your ex-employees claim that they never received ships, modules, or replacement ships promised during your recruitment. I understand that your corporation is some sort of commune, but isk is what makes the corporate world go around, so where did all your corporate revenues go?
4) Do you truly believe that trying to put out good PR and answering questions will dig you out of the hole you've dug for yourself?
5) Charges of isk buying have been levied against you. (of the non-kosher, RMT variety) have been levied against you. How would you answer these charges? --
Originally by: "RedSplat" You're the internet equivalent of a Deepfried Mars bar filled with stupid.
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CCP Ildoge
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Posted - 2009.09.16 05:30:00 -
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moved from general discussion - CCP Ildoge
Ildoge Community Representative CCP Hf Contact us |
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Lana's Alt
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.09.16 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: Zedrik Cayne
3) Your corporate tax rate is 10%. Where did all the corp isk go besides your own personal wallet? Your ex-employees claim that they never received ships, modules, or replacement ships promised during your recruitment. I understand that your corporation is some sort of commune, but isk is what makes the corporate world go around, so where did all your corporate revenues go?
I believe I can answer that one...
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Ran Khanon
Amarr The Phantom Acolytes
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Posted - 2009.09.16 06:39:00 -
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Whatever people hold against him, he earns some credit for not letting down and rage quitting the game altogether considering the size of the sh!t storm that passed over him.
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2009.09.16 06:45:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Ildoge moved from general discussion - CCP Ildoge
Why move it here, I cant see where the OP is relevant to C&P?
Or are you suggesting the Commonwealth are a bunch of criminals?
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PostmasterGeneral
Minmatar yo i'm posting
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Posted - 2009.09.16 06:58:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix kayne west is a dushbag for the most part, but obama just mades himself sound self richious by calling him a jackass, didn't he do basicly the same pupilarity stunts?
And on subject, why are our idiels stupid?
You have managed to **** off (alternatively making yourself look incredibly stupid to) a lot of people in internet spaceships. I would advise that real-world political analysis is probably a bridge too far for you, kiddo.
also learn2spell, the only person with a spelling pass is HONOURWARRIOR
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Myleena
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Posted - 2009.09.16 07:20:00 -
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Heh, welcome to the Joe Show.
Joe, why are you such an attention seeking tard?
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Ivanna Nuke
Daralux
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Posted - 2009.09.16 08:08:00 -
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Does Joe have many Velators?
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AterraX
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.09.16 08:11:00 -
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How much would it cost to setup "The University of Joe Phonix" where graduation (and a ISK bouns, funded by donations) consists of successfully podding "Joe Phonix"?
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Loriana Oreless
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Posted - 2009.09.16 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: AterraX How much would it cost to setup "The University of Joe Phonix" where graduation (and a ISK bouns, funded by donations) consists of successfully podding "Joe Phonix"?
You cant afford the letter E, so i guess a corporation would be a stretch
Originally by: AterraX How much would it cost to setup "The University of Joe Phoenix" where graduation (and a ISK bouns, funded by donations) consists of successfully podding "Joe Phoenix"?
Fixed it for you
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FU22
Synthetic Frontiers
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Posted - 2009.09.16 09:05:00 -
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I think this should be moved to coad.
The goons would make the thread more interesting
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Lord Windu
Echelon Warfare Unit
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Posted - 2009.09.16 09:21:00 -
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Originally by: FU22 I think this should be moved to coad.
The goons would make the thread more interesting
You used the words Goons and Interesting in the same sentence
Here is another one;
A guy walks into a bar with a giraffe and he says, "A beer for me, and one for my giraffe." They stand around drinking for hours until finally the giraffe passes out on the floor and the guy pays the tab and gets up to leave. "Hey! You're not going to leave that lyin' on the floor, are you?", "That's not a lion. It's a giraffe."
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Trok Mienal
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Posted - 2009.09.16 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Windu
Originally by: FU22 I think this should be moved to coad.
The goons would make the thread more interesting
You used the words Goons and Interesting in the same sentence
Here is another one;
A guy walks into a bar with a giraffe and he says, "A beer for me, and one for my giraffe." They stand around drinking for hours until finally the giraffe passes out on the floor and the guy pays the tab and gets up to leave. "Hey! You're not going to leave that lyin' on the floor, are you?", "That's not a lion. It's a giraffe."
+10 points for making me laugh. Thanks :)
-Trok Mienal
Note: Join my mailing List "My Reasons" for the many many reasons why I felt I had to save members from the I.C. and move them to a new corp. |
GuntiNDDS
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Posted - 2009.09.16 10:01:00 -
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if i were an international internet spaceship game reputation expert and i would suggest to you that your best option out of all this mess is biomassing your character and silently creating a new one, what would -still- keep you from doing so ?
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sp3cial forc3s
Sileo In Pacis The Space P0lice
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Posted - 2009.09.16 10:16:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix I would like to hold a press conference in order to answer questions and hopefully dispell rumours that have been going on concerning the Imperiel Commonwealth and myself.
You may ask any question you wish as long as it is in a civilised and respectful manner. I will try and answer them to the best of my ability.
It burns when i pee, whats wrong with me??
Thank you for your time.
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Lightningshade
Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.09.16 11:45:00 -
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Edited by: Lightningshade on 16/09/2009 11:48:32
Originally by: Khemul Zula Any comment on the video supposedly showing the leader of the Imperial Commonwealth engaged in various sexual acts with 3 Minmatar women, 2 Gallente men, an Amarrian woman, and what appears to be a couple of Slaver Hounds?
Joe, can we get a statement on this?
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Valixithor
Caldari The Protei
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Posted - 2009.09.16 12:23:00 -
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Every once in a while, there comes along someone who isn't aligned with the majority of the worlds peoples. They usually have strangely radical ideals, a 'different' personality, something that sets them apart from the rest. Even rarer than these people being born is them becoming famous and ultimately infamous.
******, Ghandi, Jade Goody, Michael Jackson, Bin Laden, Uri Geller, Stalin, AB- people, Socrates etc.
Now we have the latest addition to that list. Joe Phoenix.
I have a question for you Joe.
One of your previous corporations was "The Flaming Angels", where I was a trusted director. Within 2 days of joining, you were demanding access to various aspects of the corporation, such as high sec research POS's before we'd even had a chance to properly get to know you. This strange aggressive behaviour got my spidey senses tingling and so you were declined these privelages.
Meanwhile, back in the directors channel, your name popped up a few times as one who was disruptive and with a persona that was detrimental to our other 50ish members. Reluctantly, I was persuaded to allow you to continue your membership in that corporation. About a week later, our CEO left the corporation for his own RL personal reasons and chose one the directors as a replacement. This caused a minor amount of controversy within the alliance, as our corporation were the executors of the said alliance.
You Joe, repeatedly attempted to gain control of the alliance, claiming you had great ideas, a plan for the future and you were the right man for the job, even though your illiteracy, your demeanour, behaviour and lack of a connection to ordinary folks was sure to be immediately evident to anyone with reasonable observation skills.
After being told numerous times that you wouldn't be in contention for the alliance leadership, especially since you would have to be CEO of a corporation within the alliance to take real control (which would NEVER happen), you left and formed your own glorious Imperial Commonwealth.
So I ask you Joe, is this Imperial Commonwealth farce, the same idea and plan you had for our previous alliance? Would the intense media/forum speculation on your actions and your personality be so brutal? Would you have brought us numerous war declarations because of your poor leadership skills, delusional view of the world, ill advised decisions, quick tongue and a mind seemingly oblivious to every piece of good avice you've ever been given?
Also, what are your plans for the future? Will you be rebuilding the IC? Will you be leading your followers to death, destruction and misery?
I put it you Joe that you should resign from your position as CEO and never put yourself in a position of power again. Not only are you harming your own reputation (what is left of it), you are causing your members grief, hassle and giving them false impressions of the EVE universe.
More seriously, you are lurking around picking up brand new players with fertile minds and taking them into your corporation. From there, you are lying to them, giving them false impressions of EVE life and generally making their starting weeks a misery in EVE. This leads to the VERY real effect of potentially new subscribers to the playerbase being driven away because of a lack of experiencing the 'real' EVE, while living in your delusional fantasy where there numerous wardecs that "can't hurt us" are decimating them. Imagine what they must be thinking. 'Joe said these can't hurt us. Well they're hurting me! I wonder what it would take to take Joe scared himself. That would be really bad. I don't think I like this game."
My honest conclusion, there should be an accident at the bio-mass cloning facility, you should create a new character and quietly join a corporation destined to be nothing more than a standard member. Failing that, is 1 mans life worth many? You should be removed from EVE online and those 10+ members you've driven away may come back.
Originally by: Yoravian
If by 'you guys are pretty nasty' you mean 'you guys are sure good at explaining game mechanics to guys like me', then yes. Yes we are.
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Riedle
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Posted - 2009.09.16 12:37:00 -
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Hi Joe
Riedle here.
Do you think there is a connection with the 9/11 and very expensive toilet paper, that just COINCIDENATALLY, went up right after 9/11?
Thanks
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Lord Windu
Echelon Warfare Unit
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Posted - 2009.09.16 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: Valixithor
Big ass post
If a post has more than one paragraph I generally don't read it "cos i iz fik" but that was a hell of a good read tbh.
*Awaits the reply from Joe with anticipation*
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Valixithor
Caldari The Protei
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Posted - 2009.09.16 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Windu
Originally by: Valixithor
Big ass post
If a post has more than one paragraph I generally don't read it "cos i iz fik" but that was a hell of a good read tbh.
*Awaits the reply from Joe with anticipation*
lol. Thanks a lot mate. All of what I said is true and I also await Joe's reply =)
Originally by: Yoravian
If by 'you guys are pretty nasty' you mean 'you guys are sure good at explaining game mechanics to guys like me', then yes. Yes we are.
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Gaelan Lionhardt
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.09.16 13:23:00 -
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Edited by: Gaelan Lionhardt on 16/09/2009 13:23:36
Quote: lol. Thanks a lot mate. All of what I said is true and I also await Joe's reply =)
You may be waiting a while, this thread was moved and now Joe is confused and cant find it...
Edit: Oh dear I dont feel good about this trolling post im sorry Joe |
THE L0CK
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Posted - 2009.09.16 13:58:00 -
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JOE
*thump thump thump*
You still there Joe?
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Face Palmer
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2009.09.16 15:47:00 -
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Hi there,
Someone said there was milk and cookies here?
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Max Queso
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Posted - 2009.09.16 15:51:00 -
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Where's Joe? I still have half a bag of popcorn left.
Why would a thread the author created to answer questions about his corp be placed here anyway?
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.09.16 16:12:00 -
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Hello Joe, Andrea Griffin here, one of several benevolent entities in the University of Caille and resident trader of Dodixie, and staunch supporter for Cat to sit on the CSM. I have several questions for you.
- Is English your native language?
- What goals (be specific) do you have for your corporation? How can you help your corporation reach those goals?
- Why were your corporation members promised ship and module replacements which never materialized?
- Do you think my feathers are pretty?
- Do you have a substantive response to the charges levied against you in the "My Reasons" mailing list?
- Do you truly believe that you deserve the name "Phoenix"? The few phoenixes I have met have acted in a far more responsible manner.
- Would you consider writing a formal apology to your former corporation members?
- What steps are you taking to prevent this kind of spectacle from happening again in the future?
- Would you ever put beer through a SodaStream?
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Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2009.09.16 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Max Queso Why would a thread the author created to answer questions about his corp be placed here anyway?
Probably because this has become the nexus of what's been called the "Joe show". He's posted a thread in Science & Technology asking for a 500 million loan to buy BPOs for his corp, a thread in Market Discussion asking for people to share trade routes, plus the "SSS war dec" thread here that tied this whole mess together. After the SSS thread got Zedrik involved, we now have the most recent IEEE investigation thread. Both the S&T thread and the MD thread were referenced in here, so this is where the most attention has been drawn to this epic science fiction saga series. ______________________________________________________ Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? |
Hanso Sparxx
Deep Penetration Inc.
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Posted - 2009.09.16 16:28:00 -
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Edited by: Hanso Sparxx on 16/09/2009 16:29:03 I came for the lols and stayed for the cognitive dissonance.
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Fumen
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.09.16 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Gaius Weyland Why do you feel so many people mock you and belittle you?
The Commonwealth stands for a radical idea, the idea goes againest everything new eden is currently based on. The aquisition of wealth, self importants, greed have all become the base on which the majority of pilots base these lives on.
The commonwealth is different, it effectively spits in the face of these values, so we exspect to be met with hostility.
Thank you for your question.
So in other words you are communists? In the hippie, flower sniffing, drug smoking, free love sense, not the red fascist state sense? From what I've been reading here, you look more like Stalin than Thoreau. Please elucidate on where I may be wrong.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2009.09.16 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Ariel Stonetalker Joe:
I see that you finally wised up and started asking for API keys. Good for you. I have three questions.
1: Do you inform new recruits into Imperial Commonwealth as to your multiple wars, or the existence of other corporations wishing to do you harm once the cost for a wardec lowers?
2: Since you claim to be a commonwealth, do you have an established plan for distributing shares, and thus control, to all or some of your members either now or at some point in the future? If so, do you intend to reserve a permanent majority of the Imperial Commonwealth shares to yourself?
3: Do you grant your members access to audit either your personal wallet, or the corporation's wallet?
Thank you for your questions.
We do inform all new recruits of the wars, if they have not checked already, and they understand situation we are in.
The Commonwealth is not a dimocracy simply because dimocracys don't work very well. However once you had optained a rank and have stayed in the corp for a period of time, shares are given to you.
And yes, we do allow all of our members to view all transactions inside the corporation.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2009.09.16 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Octavious102 Edited by: Octavious102 on 16/09/2009 05:21:41 Hi Joe, I think its fantastic that you're holding a press conference to clear your name.
1. In Zedrik's thread it was uncovered that you have a Youtube account that is severely biased against America and Americans; chat logs also show this kind of behavior (and they are not edited, I am an eye witness). Your profile name was also 'googled' and found on websites spouting anti-American flak. Now if that is your profile (and I do believe it is), you have a 'white supremacist fist' as your profile picture. Is there any truth to all of this?
2. Why, when there is proof beyond a shadow of a doubt, would you deny chat logs showing your rambunctious behavior and smack? When you know that they are not edited? I can see why you would be embarrassed, but I believe that none of this would have happened if you 'manned up' to your behavior.
I believe answering these questions will help (or possibly dampen) your standing with the community.
Thank you for your questions.
This youtube channel you talk of has not come to my attention. We do not force our members to believe in any perticular ideas in RL and if they feel strongly aint american its there choice. However if its coursing offence to anyone or is indeed racist i will not allow it. I will now look into this matter personally.
As for this "smack talking", iv herd maybe... 5-15 different accounts of what iv said, and seen countless chat logs, many of which must be forged. However i do admit i was out of term and although prevoked, i do apologies.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2009.09.16 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Zedrik Cayne Hello Joe...Zedrik Cayne from the IEEE here.
Just a few questions.
1) Why do you continue to recruit during war time? While under most circumstances, recruiting during war is just plain stupid. Under these circumstances, with such a large amount of public attention on you and your corporation, why do you continue?
2) You have admitted to being a bad trader. Your posts regarding trade routes, freighters, and that side of trading in general also show a lack of basic knowledge about how that particular side of the game works. Why ever would you continue to play the market instead of trying to find a source of income for your corporation.
3) Your corporate tax rate is 10%. Where did all the corp isk go besides your own personal wallet? Your ex-employees claim that they never received ships, modules, or replacement ships promised during your recruitment. I understand that your corporation is some sort of commune, but isk is what makes the corporate world go around, so where did all your corporate revenues go?
4) Do you truly believe that trying to put out good PR and answering questions will dig you out of the hole you've dug for yourself?
5) Charges of isk buying have been levied against you. (of the non-kosher, RMT variety) have been levied against you. How would you answer these charges?
thank you for you questions.
The new recruits believe in what we believe them. We give them the full story, and they have still joined, so its there choice.
I think i was being sarcastic when i said i was a bad trader.
We have no tax rate. And all the money we have, or had, has been spent on the members. However an SSS sleeper agent just cleared out our wallet and the hangers. (If you provide me with an e-mail address i would be happy to show you screen shots). And i have NEVER taken money from the corp, it would be impossible to get away with it, as all of our members can see every corp transaction.
I am simply answering question in an attempt to stop being coming up with stupid stories.
I have never aquired ISK through illegal means.
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Billy Cornpipe
Cornpipe Tactical and Logistics
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Posted - 2009.09.16 17:07:00 -
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Edited by: Billy Cornpipe on 16/09/2009 17:08:57 Joe, keep up the good work.
The way you spell makes me laugh every time. The way you "just don't get it" makes me laugh. The way you're trying to save face make me laugh. The way you contradict yourself all the time is funny.
I've been reading since the beginning, at first I thought you were just some dumbass, then troll crossed my mind for a day, but I think I'm sticking with dumbass.
I wish your pod many deaths
edit: This is golden Originally by: Joe Phoenix I am simply answering question in an attempt to stop being coming up with stupid stories.
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2009.09.16 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix We have no tax rate.
Your tax rate was 10% when I logged in lastnight. Guess that changed as of today.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2009.09.16 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: PostmasterGeneral
Originally by: Joe Phoenix kayne west is a dushbag for the most part, but obama just mades himself sound self richious by calling him a jackass, didn't he do basicly the same pupilarity stunts?
And on subject, why are our idiels stupid?
You have managed to **** off (alternatively making yourself look incredibly stupid to) a lot of people in internet spaceships. I would advise that real-world political analysis is probably a bridge too far for you, kiddo.
also learn2spell, the only person with a spelling pass is HONOURWARRIOR
Im afraid my spell isn't great on computers, my mind gets ahead of my hands.
And im not to worry personally if you go agained my rl opinions, "kiddo"
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Riedle
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Posted - 2009.09.16 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Fumen Edited by: Fumen on 16/09/2009 16:48:57
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Gaius Weyland Why do you feel so many people mock you and belittle you?
The Commonwealth stands for a radical idea, the idea goes againest everything new eden is currently based on. The aquisition of wealth, self importants, greed have all become the base on which the majority of pilots base these lives on.
The commonwealth is different, it effectively spits in the face of these values, so we exspect to be met with hostility.
Thank you for your question.
So in other words you are communists? In the hippie, flower sniffing, drug smoking, free love sense, not the red fascist state sense? From what I've been reading here, you look more like Stalin than Thoreau. Please elucidate on where I may be wrong.
edit: Sorry... I should have never defiled the name of Stalin in this manner. Stalin was a military genius, if not a political one. He was at least able to build an empire that held together for almost a half century. I, unfortunately, can't come up with a better comparison.
HAHA!
you used elucidate in a sentence!
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Loqiel
Serene Storm Society
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Posted - 2009.09.16 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix As for this "smack talking", iv herd maybe... 5-15 different accounts of what iv said, and seen countless chat logs, many of which must be forged.
Joe and George: separated at birth? As for forged logs, I simply see no possible way anyone with more than a rudimentary grasp of the English language could possibly forge a log like that. In fact, it hurts my head (half from laughter and half from parsing) to read anything Joe say at all, let alone try to fake something like it.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2009.09.16 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Myleena Heh, welcome to the Joe Show.
Joe, why are you such an attention seeking tard?
I think alot of people would take offense at the term "tard".
And i would LOVE to step out of the spotlight, but i can't.
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Cogswin Iannyen
Caldari Ordos Apocrypha
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Posted - 2009.09.16 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Myleena Heh, welcome to the Joe Show.
Joe, why are you such an attention seeking tard?
I think alot of people would take offense at the term "tard".
And i would LOVE to step out of the spotlight, but i can't.
Just other tards.
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Fumen
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.09.16 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Myleena Heh, welcome to the Joe Show.
Joe, why are you such an attention seeking tard?
I think alot of people would take offense at the term "tard".
And i would LOVE to step out of the spotlight, but i can't.
Oh, but you can. You just have to not only KNOW HOW but also BE WILLING TO DO IT.
How to do it: quit posting, quit recruiting, in fact, just lay low somewhere till everyone forgets about you. In a few weeks when the ADHD that is C&P forgets all about this, go join another corp that has experienced leadership and shut your mouth and listen to what is being said. After a few months and you have truly learned lessons, think about the leadership thing again and striking out on your own. EVE is a harsh community, but one that does look back on noobishness with lulz as much as they are willing to forgive.
Then again you might have just dug yourself such a huge hole that you might as well bury this character in it by hitting the delete button and creating a new character. (I hear that doing some research in the Character Bazaar can get you a good character for a few billion, and it might not have any 'community black marks' on it.) I'd still do the 'watch and learn' thing, though. You'll just be in the same spot if you don't.
Oh, and if you're just trolling everyone for the big lulz, you're doing a GREAT job of it. I'm having quite the laugh. I applaud the creativity of it.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2009.09.16 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Trok Mienal
Originally by: Lord Windu
Originally by: FU22 I think this should be moved to coad.
The goons would make the thread more interesting
You used the words Goons and Interesting in the same sentence
Here is another one;
A guy walks into a bar with a giraffe and he says, "A beer for me, and one for my giraffe." They stand around drinking for hours until finally the giraffe passes out on the floor and the guy pays the tab and gets up to leave. "Hey! You're not going to leave that lyin' on the floor, are you?", "That's not a lion. It's a giraffe."
+10 points for making me laugh. Thanks :)
-Trok Mienal
Note: Join my mailing List "My Reasons" for the many many reasons why I felt I had to save members from the I.C. and move them to a new corp.
Trok who gave you the right to dictate to these people where and where not they can go?
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THE L0CK
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Posted - 2009.09.16 17:44:00 -
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Edited by: THE L0CK on 16/09/2009 17:44:07
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Trok who gave you the right to dictate to these people where and where not they can go?
ummmmmm....
you did!
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Trok Mienal
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Posted - 2009.09.16 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Trok Mienal
Originally by: Lord Windu
Originally by: FU22 I think this should be moved to coad.
The goons would make the thread more interesting
You used the words Goons and Interesting in the same sentence
Here is another one;
A guy walks into a bar with a giraffe and he says, "A beer for me, and one for my giraffe." They stand around drinking for hours until finally the giraffe passes out on the floor and the guy pays the tab and gets up to leave. "Hey! You're not going to leave that lyin' on the floor, are you?", "That's not a lion. It's a giraffe."
+10 points for making me laugh. Thanks :)
-Trok Mienal
Note: Join my mailing List "My Reasons" for the many many reasons why I felt I had to save members from the I.C. and move them to a new corp.
Trok who gave you the right to dictate to these people where and where not they can go?
My god Joe, you have a short term memory issue. We talked about this in private last night. However I am happy to go over it again as you brought it up.
I am not dictating to them where they can and cant go. As soon as you made me a Director that made it so as a Director I had to do everything in my power to do what was best for people in corp. I did not remove anyone to "hurt you" or to "make isk". I simply did it in order to get them away from a CEO I felt would cause them nothing but sadness and cause them to loose more and more assets. If you were a responsible CEO you would have removed the members yourself until you were truly capable of running a corporation.
I never forced anyone to go anywhere. I removed them, gave them all the information I had on the failings of the I.C. and explained clearly in a well thought out letter that you could not be trusted to run a corporation and you would do nothing but cause them harm. After I explained "My Reasons" (also the name of the mailing list I setup with all this info) to each member for why I did what I did I gave them a recommendation to another corporation I found by talking to many friends and doing a lot of research. I beleave that they will find support in whatever they wish to do in EVE in a helpful environment.
Dictating implies I am telling them exactly where to go and forcing them to do it. That is not the case, I merely gave them what I felt was a good recommendation. If they wish to re-join the I.C. that is there choice. Last night you told me that almost all of the people I removed rejoined. Then I gave a list of where all the members ended up. Even when the game data shows that you lied, you wont admit it. Then the only member that did return, Acid Eye, left as soon as he read all that I had said in my mailing list. He just assumed it was a mistake he was kicked as he did not get the mail.
Right now none of the people I removed have rejoined, and many have gone to the corp I recommended as did many of the people who quit on there own. As you started this whole press conference thing I hope you will consider reading all that I said in my mailing list and replying to it. I would love to hear your defense against what I said.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2009.09.16 17:56:00 -
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Valixithor
Insulting people on the base of random accusation is frankly comical in my opinion. I offered myself as leader of the alliance because nobody else would, plain and simple.
My leadership skills are unbreakable, pure and simple.
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Trok Mienal
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Posted - 2009.09.16 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix
thank you for you questions.
The new recruits believe in what we believe them. We give them the full story, and they have still joined, so its there choice.
I think i was being sarcastic when i said i was a bad trader.
We have no tax rate. And all the money we have, or had, has been spent on the members. However an SSS sleeper agent just cleared out our wallet and the hangers. (If you provide me with an e-mail address i would be happy to show you screen shots). And i have NEVER taken money from the corp, it would be impossible to get away with it, as all of our members can see every corp transaction.
I am simply answering question in an attempt to stop being coming up with stupid stories.
I have never aquired ISK through illegal means.
Up until today you had a tax rate of 10%. Now taxing people without members getting anything out of it is bad. But now not only does the I.C. have zero source of income from either PVP or Mining or whatever, but it has zero income from taxes as well. Talk about dumb. Taxing people is ok as long as you do something good with those taxes. Also its not that you didn't acquire (A C Q U I R E) ISK through illegal means, its just that I reported you as soon as you told me you did and a GM took it away. However I am quite sure the bank was cleared out by a former member. So that I can verify. However not ever in the past did you give all members roles to see the corp wallet. I know because when I removed members I never had to remove that role from anyone. So unless that's also something you did today, your not telling the truth again.
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Faithful Delegate
Amarr Hashimoto Corporation
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Posted - 2009.09.16 18:11:00 -
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Edited by: Faithful Delegate on 16/09/2009 18:15:01 Hello Joe, chiming in from MD with a few questions:
- What is your primary source of income as an individual?
- What is your primary source of income as a corporation?
- How much liquid capital do you command at present?
- What are your primary expenditures as an individual?
- What are your primary expenditures as a corporation?
- Is your corporation presently involved in manufacturing?
- Does your corporation presently have access to research?
- Who besides yourself presently has roles that allow them access to corporate assets or capital?
- Who besides yourself presently owns shares in your corporation?
- May we see the transaction logs for your corporation wallet?
- May we see the transaction logs for your personal wallet?
Please answer the above questions with some sort of transparent data, such as screenshots of Assets, Corporation, and Wallet windows; also, a full API disclosure (which could be sent to me privately) would provide a 100% verifiable source of true facts. I am willing to audit your assets, and those of your corporation, to verify your claims. Should your claims turn out to be true, I would imagine this would dispel much of the enmity surrounding you and your corporation. If you do in fact turn out to be telling the truth with your claims, then certain profit-making opportunities may open up for you.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2009.09.16 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Fumen
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Myleena Heh, welcome to the Joe Show.
Joe, why are you such an attention seeking tard?
I think alot of people would take offense at the term "tard".
And i would LOVE to step out of the spotlight, but i can't.
Oh, but you can. You just have to not only KNOW HOW but also BE WILLING TO DO IT.
How to do it: quit posting, quit recruiting, in fact, just lay low somewhere till everyone forgets about you. In a few weeks when the ADHD that is C&P forgets all about this, go join another corp that has experienced leadership and shut your mouth and listen to what is being said. After a few months and you have truly learned lessons, think about the leadership thing again and striking out on your own. EVE is a harsh community, but one that does look back on noobishness with lulz as much as they are willing to forgive.
Then again you might have just dug yourself such a huge hole that you might as well bury this character in it by hitting the delete button and creating a new character. (I hear that doing some research in the Character Bazaar can get you a good character for a few billion, and it might not have any 'community black marks' on it.) I'd still do the 'watch and learn' thing, though. You'll just be in the same spot if you don't.
Oh, and if you're just trolling everyone for the big lulz, you're doing a GREAT job of it. I'm having quite the laugh. I applaud the creativity of it.
I know people like yourself don't have backbones, so really i would exspect you to do and run and hide in a hole somwhere, but i do, so no, i won't be running off anywere anytime soon.
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Lightningshade
Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.09.16 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Fumen
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Myleena Heh, welcome to the Joe Show.
Joe, why are you such an attention seeking tard?
I think alot of people would take offense at the term "tard".
And i would LOVE to step out of the spotlight, but i can't.
Oh, but you can. You just have to not only KNOW HOW but also BE WILLING TO DO IT.
How to do it: quit posting, quit recruiting, in fact, just lay low somewhere till everyone forgets about you. In a few weeks when the ADHD that is C&P forgets all about this, go join another corp that has experienced leadership and shut your mouth and listen to what is being said. After a few months and you have truly learned lessons, think about the leadership thing again and striking out on your own. EVE is a harsh community, but one that does look back on noobishness with lulz as much as they are willing to forgive.
Then again you might have just dug yourself such a huge hole that you might as well bury this character in it by hitting the delete button and creating a new character. (I hear that doing some research in the Character Bazaar can get you a good character for a few billion, and it might not have any 'community black marks' on it.) I'd still do the 'watch and learn' thing, though. You'll just be in the same spot if you don't.
Oh, and if you're just trolling everyone for the big lulz, you're doing a GREAT job of it. I'm having quite the laugh. I applaud the creativity of it.
I know people like yourself don't have backbones, so really i would exspect you to do and run and hide in a hole somwhere, but i do, so no, i won't be running off anywere anytime soon.
From the looks of it, you couldn't be trusted to run a dolls tea party
I'm created the post in your language to get us over any barriers
furn team locks of tit, youf cldnt bees trousted to ran a dowwies to purty.
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Fix'Tar
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Posted - 2009.09.16 18:43:00 -
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Edited by: Fix''Tar on 16/09/2009 18:43:14
Originally by: Lightningshade
From the looks of it, you couldn't be trusted to run a dolls tea party
I'm created the post in your language to get us over any barriers
furn team locks of tit, youf cldnt bees trousted to ran a dowwies to purty.
Well you know, those dolls are shifty tricksters :P. However I would not be surprised if in fact Joe's mental capacity is closer to an age that plays with dolls or "action figures" then he is to a person legally able to vote.
But perhaps I am just saying this because I am angry that Joe ripped off myself and other ex-members so badly that I am just flat out angry and am expressing that in such words. Then again I could be totally correct.
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Hideyoshi Kazeshini
Amarr Hedion University
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Posted - 2009.09.16 18:47:00 -
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Joe - it is clear from reading this thread and logs / records from other blogs that your penchant for lying and self-delusion know no bounds.
Even when faced with clear questions you obfuscate and continue to lie. You must know that claims can be checked. Google is a powerful tool, indeed.
I hope you get toasted to ashes over and over again. It has provided endless entertainment and wonders at how deluded you are.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2009.09.16 19:05:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Hideyoshi Kazeshini Joe - it is clear from reading this thread and logs / records from other blogs that your penchant for lying and self-delusion know no bounds.
Even when faced with clear questions you obfuscate and continue to lie. You must know that claims can be checked. Google is a powerful tool, indeed.
I hope you get toasted to ashes over and over again. It has provided endless entertainment and wonders at how deluded you are.
Only in your blind opinion, when you are actuelly blinded by all of the pointless trolls over the subject you'v lost the capability to make an objective decidion on the subject.
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Zedrik Cayne
Gallente Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2009.09.16 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix The new recruits believe in what we believe them. We give them the full story, and they have still joined, so its there choice.
Your new recruits are either alts of folks here, or what is even sadder, new folks who have no real idea just how brutal it is out there. It might be their choice, but it is not an informed choice.
Originally by: Joe Phoenix I think i was being sarcastic when i said i was a bad trader.
Not being able to raise a few hundred million isk for mercenaries in a reasonably short time frame does not speak well for your trading abilities. While I am certainly not one who plays the market (I really should start, with the amount of time I've been spending in Amarr and Jita lately, then again, its not really my schtick, spreadsheets make my brain hurt.)
Originally by: Joe Phoenix We have no tax rate. And all the money we have, or had, has been spent on the members. However an SSS sleeper agent just cleared out our wallet and the hangers. (If you provide me with an e-mail address i would be happy to show you screen shots). And i have NEVER taken money from the corp, it would be impossible to get away with it, as all of our members can see every corp transaction.
Your tax rate change is rather recent. And ex-corpmates have repeatedly claimed that zero isk was sent their way, either in liquid isk, ships, or other things of tangible value. So unless there are a select few that you have been rewarding, or you count yourself as a member and all the isk funneled to you (A much more likely scenario, and one which does not make the statement a complete fabrication). As for all corporate members being able to see the transaction, this is of course provably wrong as you require roles to view that information, and not everyone in your corporation had roles.
Originally by: Joe Phoenix I am simply answering question in an attempt to stop being coming up with stupid stories.
I'm afraid, that we do not have to come up with these things. Your own words tend to do that. Most of us are just reporting what is being said and done. Sure, a measure of reasonable conjecture on top can make things interesting, and watching your reactions has an amusement factor on its own.
Thank you very much for answering my questions. As always, it is an amusing pile of self contradictions, lies, half truths, revisionist history, odd grammar, and bad spelling. --
Originally by: "RedSplat" You're the internet equivalent of a Deepfried Mars bar filled with stupid.
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Fix'Tar
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Posted - 2009.09.16 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Hideyoshi Kazeshini Joe - it is clear from reading this thread and logs / records from other blogs that your penchant for lying and self-delusion know no bounds.
Even when faced with clear questions you obfuscate and continue to lie. You must know that claims can be checked. Google is a powerful tool, indeed.
I hope you get toasted to ashes over and over again. It has provided endless entertainment and wonders at how deluded you are.
To be honest, I am less entertained then I was originally. Right now I am just angry and want the ISK and Assets I lost due to Joe's incompetence back. As that does not seem possible, I would very much like to pod Joe over and over for a few days. Sadly, because Joe has caused me so much financial harm I am unable to to equip a ship and blow him up myself. For the moment I am merely limited to low sec mining. So if a bunch of other people wanna blow him up that would really make my day :).
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2009.09.16 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Andrea Griffin Hello Joe, Andrea Griffin here, one of several benevolent entities in the University of Caille and resident trader of Dodixie, and staunch supporter for Cat to sit on the CSM. I have several questions for you.
- Is English your native language?
- What goals (be specific) do you have for your corporation? How can you help your corporation reach those goals?
- Why were your corporation members promised ship and module replacements which never materialized?
- Do you think my feathers are pretty?
- Do you have a substantive response to the charges levied against you in the "My Reasons" mailing list?
- Do you truly believe that you deserve the name "Phoenix"? The few phoenixes I have met have acted in a far more responsible manner.
- Would you consider writing a formal apology to your former corporation members?
- What steps are you taking to prevent this kind of spectacle from happening again in the future?
- Would you ever put beer through a SodaStream?
thanks for your questions.
1, yes it is, my spelling somtimes suffers because my brain goes ahead of my finders.
2, Our goals are to biuld a powerful empire dedicated to the prosparity of our members.
3. I am yet to be told of a real member of the corp who has not reseaved compansation when it was required.
4. depends.
5. The so called "reasons" are a personal endulgence of a pilot who turned his back on a friend for money.
6. I fail to see how i have acted out of charector with my name, in fact i have lived up to it, rising from the ashes ever stronger, never dieing.
7, I have on reason to apologies to my members, the Commonwealth acts as a collective and they are not "my" members.
8, This spectacle is a long stream of unfortunate co-incidences, im sure in the future this will not happen again.
9, ofcourse not.
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.09.16 19:27:00 -
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His name is Joe Peenis ---
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Tellenta
Gallente Invicta. Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.09.16 19:40:00 -
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I really couldn't care less about this, but I have one thing to say.
Say it ain't so Joe, say it ain't so...
All done thank you for your time.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.09.16 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Andrea Griffin Do you think my feathers are pretty?
4. depends.
My feelings are hurt. Everyone else thinks that my feathers are pretty! Oh well, can't please everyone I guess.
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Andrea Griffin Would you ever put beer through a SodaStream?
9, ofcourse not.
And here is proof, complete proof, that all is not lost. There may be some hope yet for poor Joe.
And, to be perfectly honest - and I'm sure that some will agree, even as we snicker and point at the Joe Show here in C&P - that it does take some balls to put up a thread like this and follow through with it even though he knows he is just going to be harassed.
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2009.09.16 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Andrea Griffin my feathers are pretty! Oh well, can't please everyone I guess.
Holy crap, those were done freehand?
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.09.16 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: Andrea Griffin my feathers are pretty! Oh well, can't please everyone I guess.
Holy crap, those were done freehand?
Some lot of Jennifer's art (I am not the artist, but I have met her in person and she is awesome) is digital, but she does free hand work as well. If you want to see some truly amazing stuff... Painted Feathers.
Not trying to derail this thread, honest. Now back to your regularly scheduled programming: The Joe Show! Hosted by Zedrick Cayne with special guest Joe Phoenix!
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Trustworthy Joe
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Posted - 2009.09.16 20:50:00 -
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Joe.
As a fellow Joe, do you not feel shame that you have tainted the rest of us with your delusional ideals and impractical decisions?
I for one cannot look myself in a mirror due to the shame, and i hope you cant look at a mirror either, but that is for completely different reasons.
My question is this:
Why do you think that you should lead? You have proven to the general public that you are incapable of fair and level-headed leadership, and that you cannot even manage your own mouth around others.
Why do you think that you should lead? You cannot even manage your funds, and i find it hardly possible that you can manage a corporations pooled funds. However, i have good reason to believe that you are counting that as yours as well.
Why do you think that you should lead? You cannot take care of your own corporation members, let alone yourself. i know that as a recruitment director myself, after one conversation with you, i would not let you in my corporation, not because i may or may not like you, but because you represent a liability. you bring harm to those that you supposedly "protect", and when the time comes to stand up for what you have done, you are nowhere to be seen.
Why do you think that you should lead? You cannot tell the difference between a scam and a real offer. how can someone so clueless try to have people follow him. Is it because you paid the insignificant fee for starting a corporation? or is it because of some other thing, be it insecurities in the real world? Or mabye, its because you are so blind to your incompetence that you cannot see that in fact you are hurting the ones that are with you.
Why Joe. Why.
want a sig? thats great! post it in response to my posts!
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PostmasterGeneral
Minmatar yo i'm posting
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Posted - 2009.09.16 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix Edited by: Joe Phoenix on 16/09/2009 18:06:24 My leadership skills are unbreakable, pure and simple.
comedy gold itt
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2009.09.16 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Andrea Griffin
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Andrea Griffin Do you think my feathers are pretty?
4. depends.
My feelings are hurt. Everyone else thinks that my feathers are pretty! Oh well, can't please everyone I guess.
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Andrea Griffin Would you ever put beer through a SodaStream?
9, ofcourse not.
And here is proof, complete proof, that all is not lost. There may be some hope yet for poor Joe.
And, to be perfectly honest - and I'm sure that some will agree, even as we snicker and point at the Joe Show here in C&P - that it does take some balls to put up a thread like this and follow through with it even though he knows he is just going to be harassed.
OH yourr feathers!! they look great :)
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2009.09.16 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Trustworthy Joe Joe.
As a fellow Joe, do you not feel shame that you have tainted the rest of us with your delusional ideals and impractical decisions?
I for one cannot look myself in a mirror due to the shame, and i hope you cant look at a mirror either, but that is for completely different reasons.
My question is this:
Why do you think that you should lead? You have proven to the general public that you are incapable of fair and level-headed leadership, and that you cannot even manage your own mouth around others.
Why do you think that you should lead? You cannot even manage your funds, and i find it hardly possible that you can manage a corporations pooled funds. However, i have good reason to believe that you are counting that as yours as well.
Why do you think that you should lead? You cannot take care of your own corporation members, let alone yourself. i know that as a recruitment director myself, after one conversation with you, i would not let you in my corporation, not because i may or may not like you, but because you represent a liability. you bring harm to those that you supposedly "protect", and when the time comes to stand up for what you have done, you are nowhere to be seen.
Why do you think that you should lead? You cannot tell the difference between a scam and a real offer. how can someone so clueless try to have people follow him. Is it because you paid the insignificant fee for starting a corporation? or is it because of some other thing, be it insecurities in the real world? Or mabye, its because you are so blind to your incompetence that you cannot see that in fact you are hurting the ones that are with you.
Why Joe. Why.
I don't know what warped view of these events you'v been reading, but i am a very compantent leader, despite what trolls say.
And in fact i own nothing, everying i posess belongs to the corp, as the commander of the commonwealth i don't own anything as an individuel.
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Trustworthy Joe
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Posted - 2009.09.16 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Trustworthy Joe Joe.
As a fellow Joe, do you not feel shame that you have tainted the rest of us with your delusional ideals and impractical decisions?
I for one cannot look myself in a mirror due to the shame, and i hope you cant look at a mirror either, but that is for completely different reasons.
My question is this:
Why do you think that you should lead? You have proven to the general public that you are incapable of fair and level-headed leadership, and that you cannot even manage your own mouth around others.
Why do you think that you should lead? You cannot even manage your funds, and i find it hardly possible that you can manage a corporations pooled funds. However, i have good reason to believe that you are counting that as yours as well.
Why do you think that you should lead? You cannot take care of your own corporation members, let alone yourself. i know that as a recruitment director myself, after one conversation with you, i would not let you in my corporation, not because i may or may not like you, but because you represent a liability. you bring harm to those that you supposedly "protect", and when the time comes to stand up for what you have done, you are nowhere to be seen.
Why do you think that you should lead? You cannot tell the difference between a scam and a real offer. how can someone so clueless try to have people follow him. Is it because you paid the insignificant fee for starting a corporation? or is it because of some other thing, be it insecurities in the real world? Or mabye, its because you are so blind to your incompetence that you cannot see that in fact you are hurting the ones that are with you.
Why Joe. Why.
I don't know what warped view of these events you'v been reading, but i am a very compantent leader, despite what trolls say.
And in fact i own nothing, everying i posess belongs to the corp, as the commander of the commonwealth i don't own anything as an individuel.
you didnt answer my question.
why do you think you should lead.
want a sig? thats great! post it in response to my posts!
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Gaius Weyland
Caldari Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate Emergence.
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Posted - 2009.09.16 21:45:00 -
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If you were a competent leader why does the community at large mock you so?
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.09.16 21:58:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix And in fact i own nothing, everying i posess belongs to the corp, as the commander of the commonwealth i don't own anything as an individuel.
Here's an interesting question, then! Please choose your favorite Communist leader from the list below, and tell us why you chose that particular person:- Josef Stalin
- Carl Marx
- Mao Zedong
- Kim Jong Il
- Barack Obama
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Trok Mienal
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Posted - 2009.09.16 21:59:00 -
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Edited by: Trok Mienal on 16/09/2009 22:03:40 Edited by: Trok Mienal on 16/09/2009 22:01:00 Just thought you all might like this bit. Few mails Joe has been sending me. Screen shots available upon request. He constantly mails me asking me things and starting conversations with me, then when I reply or respond in chat he gets upset. Dude has some massive short term memory issues. So instead of remembering hes the one who started a chat or mail he just swears at me. Never able to have a constructive thought. Anyways here is a mail from today.
9.09.16 21:16 your just being a ****head trok, seriously, lay off.
-------------------- 2009.09.16 20:55 You say I am harassing (h a r a s s) them, I see it as helping them to find good people to play with the same as I would any other new player. Its a community service. Should anyone I mail or message ask for me to leave them alone, I will do that of course. However that has yet to happen. As not even one person has done that the only conclusion I have come to is that all are grateful for my efforts to find them good people to play with in a supporting environment. I guess people don't like being told to "figure out activities on your own because I am to busy with RL" like was said in your own corp mail yesterday.
Spies for the win.
-Trok
-------------------- 2009.09.16 20:37 why do you continue to harras my members?
Note: Here is a mail he sent via commonwealth corp mail to all his members. It shows how he dosnt even give a crap about trying to run basic activities for the corp. He just wants people to figure it all out on there own. Good Job Joe. Screenshots available as well upon request, just incase he deletes the mails.
Title: Corp activities and ops 2009.09.15 23:18 Feel free to plan and conduct any ops you may be interested in. Unfortunatly because of RL issue i won't be able to do this, so you'l have to take it apon yourself.
Note: Here is one about the current wars.
Title: commonwealth news letter 2009.09.15 22:36 As you all know we are still at war with these newb corps, they haven't got the ability to hurt us badly so just keep any eye out for red pilots.
There has been a number of spies in the corp, but they have been removed.
If you have any firends who might be interested in joining, please inform me.
Note: Here is one about me and and Zedrik.
Title: trok and zedrik 2009.09.16 18:01 Two people, one called zedrik cayne and one called trok lars (AKA talyeh, trok mienal) have been spamming our members with lies concerning the I.C, BLOCK (right click block) them as soon as possible.
Note: Here is another part of it.
Title: Re: trok and zedrik 2009.09.16 18:04 A reward of 1,000,000 credits will be given to the pilot who gives us infomation on pilots harrassing our members.
-------------------- 2009.09.16 18:01 Two people, one called zedrik cayne and one called trok lars (AKA talyeh, trok mienal) have been spamming our members with lies concerning the I.C, BLOCK (right click block) them as soon as possible.
Note: And in-case any of you were wondering what the corp stands for, well here ya go.
Title: The Commonwealth. 2009.09.16 20:33 I want to remind you what the Commonwealth stands for. we stand for honesty, truth, and loyalty,. We will biuld an empire of these values and we will stick with it through thick and thin.
He does not even bother to do a damn spell check for his official corp mails. Here are all the people that are in his corp but don't play. This was sent to me by an ex member today. Sadly now I need a new spy. So if anyone gets into the I.C. and wants to spy for me do let me know, thanks :).
Buddy Raines - Last Online: Last Month cdffe - Last Online: Last Week Crazy Light - Last Online: Last Week Darth Atis - Last Online: Last Month Ganav Corpim - Last Online: Last Week homestar jr - Last Online: Last Month rondonna - Last Online: Last Month
So there are at most 4-5 active people in corp including Joe. Hopefully the I.C. will really die soon.
-Trok Mienal
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2009.09.16 22:06:00 -
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Edited by: Joe Phoenix on 16/09/2009 22:07:41 trok, nobody cares.. we all know you'v been payed off.
And i don't have a favourity communist leader, there systems have always been flawed.
trustworthy joe
I think i should lead because i am a natural leader, basicly.. some people are biult to lead, others are biult to annoy people who lead.
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Zevon
Triton Manufacturing Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.16 22:20:00 -
[106]
"If you keep your mouth shut, no one will know your stupid."
I never post, and that's just my .02 from the peanut gallery. The Joe Show rocks.
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Trok Mienal
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Posted - 2009.09.16 22:23:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix Edited by: Joe Phoenix on 16/09/2009 22:07:41 trok, nobody cares.. we all know you'v been payed off.
And i don't have a favourity communist leader, there systems have always been flawed.
trustworthy joe
I think i should lead because i am a natural leader, basicly.. some people are biult to lead, others are biult to annoy people who lead.
Joe, your truly delusional. A natural leader you are not. If you were you would never have gotten into this situation in the first place. Heck you would have never gotten into the war with the SSS. Now if by built (B U I L T) to lead you mean you were built in order to lead a group of people into the abyss that is biomass due to insane frustration with your corporation, then yes I would agree.
Most everyone agrees the reasons for why I did this are quite obvious. Your the only one who dose not want to admit that in fact what I did I did for the good of the members. Now for the good of the very few people left, PLEASE resign and make someone else CEO. Also the person that seems to care the most about what I have to say is you. If that was not the case you would not mail me so many times every day and wish to have conversations with me as well. Perhaps subconsciously you are trying to recognize that in fact you are doing a terrible job and that is why you contact me. In order to hear the truth over and over so you will consciously eventually learn accept it.
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Faithful Delegate
Amarr Hashimoto Corporation
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Posted - 2009.09.16 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: Faithful Delegate Edited by: Faithful Delegate on 16/09/2009 18:15:01 Hello Joe, chiming in from MD with a few questions:
- What is your primary source of income as an individual?
- What is your primary source of income as a corporation?
- How much liquid capital do you command at present?
- What are your primary expenditures as an individual?
- What are your primary expenditures as a corporation?
- Is your corporation presently involved in manufacturing?
- Does your corporation presently have access to research?
- Who besides yourself presently has roles that allow them access to corporate assets or capital?
- Who besides yourself presently owns shares in your corporation?
- May we see the transaction logs for your corporation wallet?
- May we see the transaction logs for your personal wallet?
Please answer the above questions with some sort of transparent data, such as screenshots of Assets, Corporation, and Wallet windows; also, a full API disclosure (which could be sent to me privately) would provide a 100% verifiable source of true facts. I am willing to audit your assets, and those of your corporation, to verify your claims. Should your claims turn out to be true, I would imagine this would dispel much of the enmity surrounding you and your corporation. If you do in fact turn out to be telling the truth with your claims, then certain profit-making opportunities may open up for you.
Take care. I look forward to that EVEmail.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.09.16 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix And i don't have a favourity communist leader, there systems have always been flawed.
You mentioned above that you do not own anything, and that your corporation owns everything. That sounds Communist to me - but of course, perhaps your members are not held to similar rules. Could you explain this some more?
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Trustworthy Joe
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Posted - 2009.09.16 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Trok Mienal Edited by: Trok Mienal on 16/09/2009 22:25:26
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Edited by: Joe Phoenix on 16/09/2009 22:07:41 trok, nobody cares.. we all know you'v been payed off.
And i don't have a favourity communist leader, there systems have always been flawed.
trustworthy joe
I think i should lead because i am a natural leader, basicly.. some people are biult to lead, others are biult to annoy people who lead.
Joe, your truly delusional. A natural leader you are not. If you were you would never have gotten into this situation in the first place. Heck you would have never gotten into the war with the SSS. Now if by built (B U I L T) to lead you mean you were built in order to lead a group of people into the abyss that is biomass due to insane frustration with your corporation, then yes I would agree. If by "trustworthy joe" you mean making promises and then not keeping them, slowly draining assets from members and lying through your teeth constantly then again, yes I would agree.
Most everyone agrees the reasons for why I did this are quite obvious. Your the only one who dose not want to admit that in fact what I did I did for the good of the members. Now for the good of the very few people left, PLEASE resign and make someone else CEO. Also the person that seems to care the most about what I have to say is you. If that was not the case you would not mail me so many times every day and wish to have conversations with me as well. Perhaps subconsciously you are trying to recognize that in fact you are doing a terrible job and that is why you contact me. In order to hear the truth over and over so you will consciously eventually learn accept it.
-Trok Mienal
just as an fyi, that part was directed at me.
still, i agree 100%
Joe Phoenix, please just stop. a natural leader does not lead into the face of death, he leads away.
want a sig? thats great! post it in response to my posts!
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Lord Windu
Echelon Warfare Unit
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Posted - 2009.09.16 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix
I think i should lead because i am a natural leader, basicly.. some people are biult to lead, others are biult to annoy people who lead.
WTS - Spell checker.
You are certainly not a natural leader, a natural leader would have never let this happen, whereas you have just dig yourself deeper into the hole. I kind of felt sorry for you at first, "kinda", but the more you post the more I see someone who needs to be taught a lesson. Sadly these wars don't seem to be teaching you a lesson right due to your own stupidity but I am sure this will carry on long enough until you have nothing left in this game and either start fresh, or find something else to play. The only person to blame is yourself but you don't have the capacity to understand that. ------
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Gaius Weyland
Caldari Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate Emergence.
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Posted - 2009.09.16 22:38:00 -
[112]
I have watched these threads since when they first appeared, great entertainment I must admit for many hours!
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Zedrik Cayne
Gallente Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2009.09.16 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix Edited by: Joe Phoenix on 16/09/2009 22:07:41 trok, nobody cares.. we all know you'v been payed off.
And i don't have a favourity communist leader, there systems have always been flawed.
trustworthy joe
I think i should lead because i am a natural leader, basicly.. some people are biult to lead, others are biult to annoy people who lead.
Um, who would pay Trok off? Its certainly not me. I rarely tend to have two shiny isk to rub together. (Well, right now I've had a couple very amused individuals donate to the IEEE to continue our good works, so I'm a bit more flush than I would normally be.)
So, who do you know has paid Trok off? While we here at the IEEE are not above paying spies isk for information (It is a necessary evil sometimes, and we typically pay very badly.) We have not paid Trok, (nor, come to think of it, anyone) during this investigation.
Please, if you wish to level an accusation have some kind of proof behind it. We have ample proof from multiple sources of the levels of incompetence that have been shown by you and your leadership. So please, do share.
PS: Popcorn stocks have been replenished all over New Eden from factories in both Amarr and Jita. Please don't forget to purchase your official IEEE branded popcorn enjoyment paraphernalia. NEW: Official 'Joe Show' branded buckets, buttery topping, bags, branded kernel corn, salt dispensers, and flavor shakers. --
Originally by: "RedSplat" You're the internet equivalent of a Deepfried Mars bar filled with stupid.
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Ran Khanon
Amarr The Phantom Acolytes
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Posted - 2009.09.16 22:44:00 -
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Posting to state that natural leadership doesn't mean that the blood-hungry mob won't tear you to shreds when you have fallen out of grace or when the right guy points his finger. It often goes together quite well.
*points at a long list of dictators having met with violent ends*
Methinks it is time the mob disperses as there is not a virtual vessel left to chew on.
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Tom Warrior
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Posted - 2009.09.16 22:48:00 -
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Troll. After extensive analysis I vote troll. The Jo Peenus alter ego has too much ego to keep at it this long. I am sorry to break it to everyone but this myth is busted (B U S T E D).
Amazingly entertaining however! Hazzah to you Mr Peenus!
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Trok Mienal
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Posted - 2009.09.16 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Zedrik Cayne
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Edited by: Joe Phoenix on 16/09/2009 22:07:41 trok, nobody cares.. we all know you'v been payed off.
And i don't have a favourity communist leader, there systems have always been flawed.
trustworthy joe
I think i should lead because i am a natural leader, basicly.. some people are biult to lead, others are biult to annoy people who lead.
Um, who would pay Trok off? Its certainly not me. I rarely tend to have two shiny isk to rub together. (Well, right now I've had a couple very amused individuals donate to the IEEE to continue our good works, so I'm a bit more flush than I would normally be.)
So, who do you know has paid Trok off? While we here at the IEEE are not above paying spies isk for information (It is a necessary evil sometimes, and we typically pay very badly.) We have not paid Trok, (nor, come to think of it, anyone) during this investigation.
Please, if you wish to level an accusation have some kind of proof behind it. We have ample proof from multiple sources of the levels of incompetence that have been shown by you and your leadership. So please, do share.
PS: Popcorn stocks have been replenished all over New Eden from factories in both Amarr and Jita. Please don't forget to purchase your official IEEE branded popcorn enjoyment paraphernalia. NEW: Official 'Joe Show' branded buckets, buttery topping, bags, branded kernel corn, salt dispensers, and flavor shakers.
Indeed. However as I may have said before, if people wish to donate some ISK to me in order to help me get back on my feet I would gladly accept it. The amount of damage done to me is quite high. I mean I do understand it was my choice to stay and try to help the members still there, none the less any donations during these trying times I am much appreciative for. Just saying :).
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Sidrat Flush
Caldari Life is Experience New Eden Hardware Emporium
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Posted - 2009.09.16 23:26:00 -
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I very very rarely read the C&P sub forum, let alone post, however the Joe Phoenix (HOW did he spell that right??) Show has been the best comedy thread in a long time.
CEO's like this are thankfully rare, MOST who start out like Joe (Phoenix, not the other Joe) has the good grace and sensibilities to go away, learn to listen, follow the good examples that are out there AND THEN come back an entirely different person (sometimes on the same character, more often than not on a totally different one though).
It's not your ingame knowledge that's letting you down here Joe Phoenix it's the obvious half truths, pedantry the biggest EGO I've seen since Bobby Atlas was in FLA. Hi Bobby, no offence meant I look back on those years fondly and sometimes with a tear in my eye. I've read the multiple threads and blogs about Joe Phoenix and his corp idea - it's a good idea as it happens but not very well implemented and led by an incompentant ego-maniac. A normal ego-maniac is a good ceo to have, and incompetant one leads to Drama!
The saddest and cruelest part in all this however are the REAL new characters that has joined your corp and are getting possibly the worst CEO experience available in all of New Eden. These are the players who should be nurtured and yes taught that Eve is a harsh place but as CEO it's your duty to soften the blow and lead them not in to un-winnable empire wars against multiple opponents but to casually take them through the multiple industry/missions chains have a few inter corp pvp battles and when the corp can afford it, take them on a low sec journey and see how they get on.
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Ariel Stonetalker
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Posted - 2009.09.16 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix 3. I am yet to be told of a real member of the corp who has not [received compensation] when it was required.
Several of the members of IC who left to join -SSS included not receiving promised compensation among their chief complaints. Are you saying that, since everyone aside from you who has lost a ship to war has left the IC, then all the "real members" have received their compensation?
Originally by: Joe Phoenix I fail to see how i have acted out of charector (sic) with my name, in fact i have lived up to it, rising from the ashes ever stronger, never dieing.
What, precisely, would you consider a "death" in Eve? By the accounts that I have heard, you have simply rebuilt your house of straw again and again from the same straw, resulting in a poorer and poorer house each time.
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Posted - 2009.09.16 23:57:00 -
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I'm wondering how long someone has to wait after providing the required API to actually get into the corp...or do I suck too much to join? You can tell me I won't cry (much).
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sitar seaton
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Posted - 2009.09.17 00:00:00 -
[120]
Joe is your irl name barack?
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Taladool
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Posted - 2009.09.17 01:29:00 -
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Joe, are you really that high on yourself? I mean to think your a good leader?
Then again, what if Jeo was just an alt of someone else doing this for ****s and giggles on the side which is why he has so many times where he has "RL issuse"
2nd, I am not 100% sure, but I think this is the first ever post on the eve-online forums from in the in game browser.
This thing kicks ass!
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W1ckd Munch
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Posted - 2009.09.17 01:36:00 -
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Joe,
Thank you for offering to answer any question.
What is your highest level of education IRL?
Do you still wake up with a woody every morning?
Do you struggle with acne?
Are you being treated for any psychological or behavioral disorders?
Are you a repressed custodial engineer or subjected to bullies in the school yard?
Do you realize that in order to lead, you must first be able to communicate effectively?
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g0ggalor
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Posted - 2009.09.17 03:01:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix I think i should lead because i am a natural leader, basicly.. some people are biult to lead, others are biult to annoy people who lead.
And what qualities make do you think you have as a "natural leader?"
Honestly, what SPECIFIC leadership qualities do you have?
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Fix'Tar
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Posted - 2009.09.17 04:27:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Trok Mienal
Originally by: Zedrik Cayne Um, who would pay Trok off? Its certainly not me. I rarely tend to have two shiny isk to rub together. (Well, right now I've had a couple very amused individuals donate to the IEEE to continue our good works, so I'm a bit more flush than I would normally be.)
So, who do you know has paid Trok off? While we here at the IEEE are not above paying spies isk for information (It is a necessary evil sometimes, and we typically pay very badly.) We have not paid Trok, (nor, come to think of it, anyone) during this investigation.
Please, if you wish to level an accusation have some kind of proof behind it. We have ample proof from multiple sources of the levels of incompetence that have been shown by you and your leadership. So please, do share.
PS: Popcorn stocks have been replenished all over New Eden from factories in both Amarr and Jita. Please don't forget to purchase your official IEEE branded popcorn enjoyment paraphernalia. NEW: Official 'Joe Show' branded buckets, buttery topping, bags, branded kernel corn, salt dispensers, and flavor shakers.
Indeed. However as I may have said before, if people wish to donate some ISK to me in order to help me get back on my feet I would gladly accept it. The amount of damage done to me is quite high. I mean I do understand it was my choice to stay and try to help the members still there. None the less, any donations of any size and in any form during these trying times I am much appreciative for. I donated so much to the I.C. in the form of everything from time to assets. Now I surely could use a bit of the same kind of compassion I showed others. Just saying :).
-Trok Mienal
Poor Trok. I know I lost quite a few ships, but you were donating so much that when you realized how terrible Joe really was at running a corp you must have felt totally taken. I mean from what I understand you did not really follow the forums or anything until a bit into the whole situation started. As nobody else was really mailing members to warn them of the trouble Joe was getting himself and his corp into on the forums, when you found out you must have been shocked. From what I remember you were donating your own ships and equipment to the corp and putting others before yourself. Something you don't see many people do often at all in any game especially a game like EVE. So you must be out quite a lot in the end.
Well check your wallet when you get on Trok. Joe said that someone paid you for the actions you took, this is something we all know is untrue. Now it comes down to helping out the man who helped out so many others in there time of need. I know 10 Mil might not be a lot considering what that ****er Joe took from so many members including you (Joe replacing ships ya right), but I hope it helps you somewhat as its all I can really spare. I hope you read this Joe, because you need to understand that people like Trok are really hard to come by in any game. He does so much to help people and asks for almost nothing in return. This isn't paying Trok for what he did, this is helping to save him from all the trouble you caused him Joe.
Fly safe man, and keep up the good work. Someone has to warn all those new players he recruits what the score really is. I am glad its you, I am sure you will do a great job.
Fix |
Hadesgate
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Posted - 2009.09.17 06:21:00 -
[125]
Dear Joe Phoenix,
On page 3 post 65 you say that You corp is NOT a dimocracy, because its not working. (so i presume you are the boss) However your reply on a series of Questions see (post 89 page 3) you are telling us that you do not have to apologize to your members because they are not YOUR members...
If this is indeed the case, than who is running The Imperial Commonwealth?
And i believe that when you go for a dictatorship or communism you can actually take whatever you want without any consequenses.
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Lana's Alt
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.09.17 06:53:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Fix'Tar
Poor Trok. I know I lost quite a few ships, but you were donating so much that when you realized how terrible Joe really was at running a corp you must have felt totally taken. I mean from what I understand you did not really follow the forums or anything until a bit into the whole situation started. As nobody else was really mailing members to warn them of the trouble Joe was getting himself and his corp into on the forums, when you found out you must have been shocked. From what I remember you were donating your own ships and equipment to the corp and putting others before yourself. Something you don't see many people do often at all in any game especially a game like EVE. So you must be out quite a lot in the end.
Well check your wallet when you get on Trok. Joe said that someone paid you for the actions you took, this is something we all know is untrue. Now it comes down to helping out the man who helped out so many others in there time of need. I know 10 Mil might not be a lot considering what that ****er Joe took from so many members including you (Joe replacing ships ya right), but I hope it helps you somewhat as its all I can really spare. I hope you read this Joe, because you need to understand that people like Trok are really hard to come by in any game. He does so much to help people and asks for almost nothing in return. This isn't paying Trok for what he did, this is helping to save him from all the trouble you caused him Joe.
Fly safe man, and keep up the good work. Someone has to warn all those new players Joe recruits and fill them in on what the score really is. I am glad its you, I am sure you will do a great job.
Fix
This bought a tear to my eye and almost made me want to give the 170M that used to be Joe's to Trok...
Istvaan Shogaatsu: As with most such situations the answer is simple: rob them first. |
Myleena
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Posted - 2009.09.17 07:21:00 -
[127]
How old are you Joe?
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Fix'Tar
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Posted - 2009.09.17 07:24:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Lana's Alt
This bought a tear to my eye and almost made me want to give the 170M that used to be Joe's to Trok...
I suppose the key word there is almost. I am sure Trok could use it, but I think he could use it even more just to stick it to Joe. Or at least that's how I would use it hehe. No but really, I do feel bad for Trok. He is a genuinely good person who tried to do all he could for those members and ended up with a really raw deal. But that's why EVE can be such a great game. Because the moral or immoral decisions you make have such a big impact on people. Sadly I am sure that doesn't give Trok any comfort. The most he can really hope for is that someone tries to help him out or enough people war dec Joe to the point he stops recruiting and in the process give Trok some comfort.
I just hope someone does end up helping Trok out.
Fix |
Dracoknight
Eternal Guardians Corp. The Covenant Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.17 08:14:00 -
[129]
Geez, this is even worse than the episode with ThCEO...
...Seriously Joe, is it so hard to accept what people is saying to you? They do have PROOF for their acusations, i have yet to see proof for why this would be lies from your part except for your poorly chosen words which only dig your own grave rather than keeping your head over the water.
Do yourself a favor Joe Phoenix, stop now while you still can..
btw: you said you didnt like the spotlight, have it ever struck you that if you just shutted up and let this pass with a single formal apology to the corp you orginally treathen and all those you have insulted this would never had happend?
Anyway, i am glad you didnt shut up, it just removed another useless CEO from using new players of EVE to their own fanatic gains and a goal that had no hope of acomplish.
Anyway, good show Zedrik... i would like 2 big popcorns and a large Pepsi Max and those fancy 3D Googles you have over there. ____________________
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Ace Greywolf
Caldari Greywolves
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Posted - 2009.09.17 10:06:00 -
[130]
Edited by: Ace Greywolf on 17/09/2009 10:13:22 For the love of god Joe... why cant you just suck it up and take it like a man, and admit to yourself that you have failed!
People do make mistakes, make bad judgements and thats good cause they normally learn something out of it.
Now this whole thing could teach you lot of things, firstly how to be better CEO if you only would listen what people are saying to you and stop to think for a minute what you have done wrong in this extravaganza or could of done diffenrently ,and then apologize everybody concerned for your your actions and wrongdoings.
Personally i think your basic idea of your company is great, i like it but you are just not the man to make that happen, you could be though if you just stop that stubborn behaviour and stop lying ,doubletalking,cheating , smacking etc...etc and concentrate on learning from your mistakes!! Anyways thats my 20 cents on the matter, Zed,Trok --Salute-- to you both! good job!fly safe!
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Gaelan Lionhardt
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.09.17 12:40:00 -
[131]
Ok Joe here we go, solve this problem;
You need to transport an Amarrian Slaver, a Minmatar Slave and a bag of Wheat to the next system. You only have room for one item at a time in the Industrial.
You can't leave the Minmatar Slave alone with the Wheat because the Minmatar Slave is starving and will eat the Wheat. You can't leave the Ammarian Slaver alone with the Minmatar Slave because that would be cruel and messy!
"How can you get the Amarrian Slaver, the Minmatar Slave and the bag of Wheat to the other system?"
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Gaelan Lionhardt
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.09.17 13:02:00 -
[132]
Wow an interesting thought just crossed my mind what if; Trok is Joe And this entire thing is an over elaberate hoax/scam, that would be... interesting and clever.
Important: Joe Phoenix is not Trok Mienal, or at least I have no reason to beleive he is. |
Myleena
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Posted - 2009.09.17 13:33:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Gaelan Lionhardt Edited by: Gaelan Lionhardt on 17/09/2009 13:06:29 Ok Joe here we go, solve this problem;
You need to transport an Amarrian Slaver, a Minmatar Slave and a bag of Wheat to the next station. You only have room for one item at a time in the Shuttle.
You can't leave the Minmatar Slave alone with the Wheat because the Minmatar Slave is starving and will eat the Wheat. You can't leave the Ammarian Slaver alone with the Minmatar Slave because that would be cruel and messy!
"How can you get the Amarrian Slaver, the Minmatar Slave and the bag of Wheat to the other station?"
A better test of leadership there isn't!
Rules for the "out of the box" thinkers: During the test only 2 stations (the one your in and the one your going to) can be used and a single shuttle in case you say something dumb like "I'd buy an industrial"
Edit to clarify rules
Take the slave to the station, go back and get the slaver. Pick up the slaver, transport him and swap him for the slave. Take the slave back and swap him for the wheat. Transport the wheat, go back and get the slave.
What do I win?
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Myleena
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Posted - 2009.09.17 13:39:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Gaelan Lionhardt Wow an interesting thought just crossed my mind what if; Trok is Joe And this entire thing is an over elaberate hoax/scam, that would be... interesting and clever.
Important: Joe Phoenix is not Trok Mienal, or at least I have no reason to beleive he is.
This did cross my mind too. What if it's all an elaborate scam by Joe to make us feel sorry for Trok and give him donations of infinite wealth?
Fix'Tar could be a alt he's using just for this purpose, looks like Lana's already being taken in!
Damn I LOVE the Joe Show!
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Gaelan Lionhardt
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.09.17 14:37:00 -
[135]
Edited by: Gaelan Lionhardt on 17/09/2009 14:42:11
Quote: What do I win?
You win nothing for telling the OP the answer, thanks for that. Also anything you did win would be taken off you for answering a question not directed at you, I hope you dont find yourself in the audience of a game show anytime soon
Id like to point out that anyone who attended high school would know the answer to that "riddle"
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Myleena
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Posted - 2009.09.17 15:37:00 -
[136]
You seriously think he would have bothered to reply even if he could work it out?
I was 'excluded' from school for breaking in one night and taking a dump in the deputy headmasters office, so I think I did rather well considering.
Anyway, we digress.
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jhon whang
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Posted - 2009.09.17 16:13:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Gaelan Lionhardt Edited by: Gaelan Lionhardt on 17/09/2009 13:06:29 Ok Joe here we go, solve this problem;
You need to transport an Amarrian Slaver, a Minmatar Slave and a bag of Wheat to the next station. You only have room for one item at a time in the Shuttle.
You can't leave the Minmatar Slave alone with the Wheat because the Minmatar Slave is starving and will eat the Wheat. You can't leave the Ammarian Slaver alone with the Minmatar Slave because that would be cruel and messy!
"How can you get the Amarrian Slaver, the Minmatar Slave and the bag of Wheat to the other station?"
A better test of leadership there isn't!
Rules for the "out of the box" thinkers: During the test only 2 stations (the one your in and the one your going to) can be used and a single shuttle in case you say something dumb like "I'd buy an industrial"
Edit to clarify rules
Shoot the slave, make the slaver fly himself to the next station to pick up his pay check, and brew a tasty beverage from the wheat. Easy.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.09.17 16:28:00 -
[138]
Hello, Joe!
I had a discussion with the wonderful, insightful legend Sera Ryskin, who is unfortunately unable to engage in this question and answer session. Out of this discussion, I have the following questions:
Why, after issuing the following threat to Merin:
"if you ever do run into me, il kill you, hands down" did you fit a full rack of WCS and run away like a little girl when she came to you to give you the opportunity to carry out that threat?
Why did you offer a bounty on Merin's Raven (not CNR as you claimed, you ran like a girl from a standard Raven) to your corp and suggest that your members (most of them newer players for whom this would be suicide) hunt her down, while you were too scared to do it yourself.
Do you feel that this is appropriate behavior for a leader, hiding in the back while begging other people to do your job for you, and providing no advice or support beyond "bring lots of ships"?
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2009.09.17 17:39:00 -
[139]
I believe he is the second coming of Raptor Jesus
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Faithful Delegate
Amarr Hashimoto Corporation
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Posted - 2009.09.17 18:06:00 -
[140]
Joe,
It might do well to let people help you who have offered to do so.
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LarcatOfRens
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Posted - 2009.09.17 19:58:00 -
[141]
wut
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Zeriel Meholick
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Posted - 2009.09.17 20:29:00 -
[142]
Wow. I thought I knew what ridiculous was, until this day.
I do have a question, though: Joe, why do you think it is that literally no one believes your "clarifications" and "corrections" and accusations of impropriety? Do you seriously think every single EVE veteran except you is a flaming jerk?
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Beersheeba
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Posted - 2009.09.17 20:37:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
The Commonwealth stands for a radical idea, the idea goes againest everything new eden is currently based on. The aquisition of wealth, self importants, greed have all become the base on which the majority of pilots base these lives on.
The commonwealth is different, it effectively spits in the face of these values, so we exspect to be met with hostility.
Thank you for your question.
your ideas are intriguing. if i want to find out more, is there a newsletter or blog I can follow ?
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Lytia Tranaki
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Posted - 2009.09.17 20:38:00 -
[144]
Is your spell-checker broken, or did you really fail 3rd grade english?
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Abenham
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Posted - 2009.09.18 03:21:00 -
[145]
Joe Phoenix speaks fluent French? Check it out:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1175981&page=5
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Hadesgate
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Posted - 2009.09.18 05:46:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Abenham Joe Phoenix speaks fluent French? Check it out:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1175981&page=5
Joe Phoenix > ca va bian marsie, pardon je na pa parla en francie
so no he does not speak fluent french. even with my limited french knowledge, joe is telling him he cannot speak french and the sentence should be more like this:
ca va bien (not bian) pardon je ne parle pas Fransaic.
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Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2009.09.18 12:02:00 -
[147]
It's Frantais, isn't it? Been a long time since my high school french, though. ______________________________________________________ Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? |
Trok Mienal
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Posted - 2009.09.18 13:51:00 -
[148]
Edited by: Trok Mienal on 18/09/2009 13:51:49
Originally by: Beersheeba
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
The Commonwealth stands for a radical idea, the idea goes againest everything new eden is currently based on. The aquisition of wealth, self importants, greed have all become the base on which the majority of pilots base these lives on.
The commonwealth is different, it effectively spits in the face of these values, so we exspect to be met with hostility.
Thank you for your question.
your ideas are intriguing. if i want to find out more, is there a newsletter or blog I can follow ?
Best funny on all these Joe threads so far. Like Joe ever had the organizational or spelling skills to run a website or blog. He cant even run a pretend spaceship game corporation properly. However in saying that when I was back in the I.C. he did ask me to run a website as he did not have the skills to do so. I turned him down as at that point I knew this was going downhill and did not want to spread the crap he was shoveling me further onto the internet. Also the only reason he says the acquisition of wealth is not important is because he A. does not know how to gain any wealth in any way unless it is stealing from members or buying ISK, and B. because he refuses to admit these things he turns down any ideas on how to gain some wealth from members right away. Such as the many many Industrial plans I put forward. As for those "values" Its not so much that he spits on these values directly either, its just he spits in the face of anyone with different ideas from his own. This is somthing I learned very quickly in the ending days I was in the I.C. Saying there was anything wrong with the current situation was grounds to be called a traitor. Therefore how can anyone propose change when there ideas differ from Joes. Up until the other day he was more then happy to collect taxes and just sit on them.
If you really want to find out Joes great ideas and don't want to take my word, ask any of the many many people who left the I.C. what kind if ideas he has for a corp. You will find they will all say his ideas and morals are just as bad as has been reported here. Especially those who were around for the SSS war.
-Trok
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Face Palmer
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2009.09.18 14:13:00 -
[149]
OMFG!
PLEASE let this be troll of the decade.
If not; Oh the humanity......
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Htrag
The Carebear Stare
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Posted - 2009.09.18 14:53:00 -
[150]
Is this the same Joe Phoenix that liked to run around Passari in a badger? This dude is legendary.
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Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2009.09.18 15:04:00 -
[151]
That's the same Joe Phoenix all right. I'm surprised he didn't have any warp core stabilizers on that Drake. ______________________________________________________ Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? |
Jaliri Naskad
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Posted - 2009.09.18 17:10:00 -
[152]
Hello, Joe.
My questions are regarding your recruitment practices, prior to the SSS incident. Despite whatever else may be said about you, you seem to have had the knack for recruiting both experienced players who were willing to spend much time and ISK for the good of the corporation (such as Trok), and fresh newbies who were willing to stick around despite many losses.
Were and how did you find these recruits? What was your recruitment process? Why, in your opinion, did they stick around for so long?
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Trok Mienal
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Posted - 2009.09.18 17:31:00 -
[153]
Edited by: Trok Mienal on 18/09/2009 17:36:23
Originally by: Jaliri Naskad Hello, Joe.
My questions are regarding your recruitment practices, prior to the SSS incident. Despite whatever else may be said about you, you seem to have had the knack for recruiting both experienced players who were willing to spend much time and ISK for the good of the corporation (such as Trok), and fresh newbies who were willing to stick around despite many losses.
Were and how did you find these recruits? What was your recruitment process? Why, in your opinion, did they stick around for so long?
I can answer most of these from personal experience being in the corp so long. However I still would LOVE to hear Joe's answer. Its got to be worth a good laugh. Joe basically did very little recruiting himself. He asks all members to recruit and get people to go and apply. This comes down to just spamming in local with very little info about the corp then getting those people to invite there friends where the cycle repeats. Kinda like a pyramid scheme where Joe collects more and more taxes. If you spam in local and message random people long enough you eventually find someone willing to give a new corp a shot. Especially new players. Despite how I pleaded with Joe, he never supplied any pre-made recruitment messages, or basic info those recruiting can tell people. So what was said was random and only what people knew from personal experience. But Joe wants all members to try and recruit so people did.
There was no interview when people applied just a quick approval. Only recently did he even ask for API's and only to try to stop spies. Most members only stayed as long as they did because they had a friend in the corp. Mind you this wasn't very long at all. The I.C. had a very very high turnover rate. People were joining and leaving all the time, I mean every day. During the war with the SSS we only had about 4 or 5 regulars besides Joe including me.
So to shorten this.
Question:Were and how did you find these recruits? Answer: Random spamming in local chat in starter zones as required by Joe.
Question:What was your recruitment process? Answer: There wasn't one, random recruiting followed by approval with no interview.
Question: Why, in your opinion, did they stick around for so long? Answer: If you consider members leaving after a 1-3 days and then being quickly replaced by other new players long, then they stayed that long because that's how long it took to find out Joe was a terrible CEO and the I.C. had few redeeming qualities besides the few helpful members such as myself.
-Trok |
Zedrik Cayne
Gallente Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2009.09.18 18:36:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Gavin DeVries That's the same Joe Phoenix all right. I'm surprised he didn't have any warp core stabilizers on that Drake.
Fortunately having seen previous kills with up to four stabs fitted, a full six points were put on the brutix before going out. The drake had a co-processor, power diagnostic and 2xwarp core stabs fitted in the lows.
His mids were reasonable. And, well...I suppose crap t1 launchers are fine if you stuff caldari navy missles inside.
In other news...The Giant Squids have apparently killed Viceroy Jane in Luminaire a couple times. Um..what? --
Originally by: "RedSplat" You're the internet equivalent of a Deepfried Mars bar filled with stupid.
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Infinitus Perrenis
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.09.18 19:27:00 -
[155]
Originally by: sitar seaton
Joe is your irl name barack?
Geezus, have some perspective. "Forever More" |
Greasy Khan
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Posted - 2009.09.19 00:10:00 -
[156]
Edited by: Greasy Khan on 19/09/2009 00:30:00 FFS. Please copy and paste your posts into a word program and spellcheck this garbage please.
edit: I know it's been covered already but your killing me.
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Ulaanbator Tiki
The Yaar Offices of Pointe Webb and Podemall
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Posted - 2009.09.19 00:54:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Andrea Griffin
Originally by: Joe Phoenix And in fact i own nothing, everying i posess belongs to the corp, as the commander of the commonwealth i don't own anything as an individuel.
Here's an interesting question, then! Please choose your favorite Communist leader from the list below, and tell us why you chose that particular person:- Josef Stalin
- Carl Marx
- Mao Zedong
- Kim Jong Il
- Barack Obama
I pick any of them except Obama, because none of the other guys ever supported a bill allowing the federal government to kill my grandmother. ~~~~~~~~~~~ Are you in need of a capable Yaarttorney? Let us represent you and your interests! We handle all cases, including civil, contract, and criminal law. |
AdmiralJohn
Gallente The Unknown Bar and Pub
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Posted - 2009.09.19 01:10:00 -
[158]
Originally by: Ulaanbator Tiki
Originally by: Andrea Griffin
Originally by: Joe Phoenix And in fact i own nothing, everying i posess belongs to the corp, as the commander of the commonwealth i don't own anything as an individuel.
Here's an interesting question, then! Please choose your favorite Communist leader from the list below, and tell us why you chose that particular person:- Josef Stalin
- Carl Marx
- Mao Zedong
- Kim Jong Il
- Barack Obama
I pick any of them except Obama, because none of the other guys ever supported a bill allowing the federal government to kill my grandmother.
Imma let you finish, but I just wanted to say Stalin abused his power way better than Obama.
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Infinitus Perrenis
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.09.19 02:35:00 -
[159]
Originally by: AdmiralJohn
Originally by: Ulaanbator Tiki
Originally by: Andrea Griffin
Originally by: Joe Phoenix And in fact i own nothing, everying i posess belongs to the corp, as the commander of the commonwealth i don't own anything as an individuel.
Here's an interesting question, then! Please choose your favorite Communist leader from the list below, and tell us why you chose that particular person:- Josef Stalin
- Carl Marx
- Mao Zedong
- Kim Jong Il
- Barack Obama
I pick any of them except Obama, because none of the other guys ever supported a bill allowing the federal government to kill my grandmother.
Imma let you finish, but I just wanted to say Stalin abused his power way better than Obama.
Well I am glad that the brain trusts have finally chimed in. You two are proof that a minimum IQ is not required to post on message boards. BTW, this thread is about an idiot named Joe, but it isn't your hero Joe the un-licensed Plumber. Now doesn't Glen Beck have some protest for you to do, something about teabagging each other? "Forever More" |
AdmiralJohn
Gallente The Unknown Bar and Pub
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Posted - 2009.09.19 02:55:00 -
[160]
Actually I just felt like using that phrase, so I searched many different threads until I found something marginally suitable so I could get it out of my system.
But politics is good, too.
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azalea anastasia
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Posted - 2009.09.19 10:25:00 -
[161]
Really joe has to be a troll , no one can be THAT dumb.No really ...
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RedSplat
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Posted - 2009.09.19 12:46:00 -
[162]
I leave the Internets for a few days and then THIS happens. You're off your game RedSplat. You're old man, worn out. You die a forum warrior or live long enough to see yourself become Zymurgist.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
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Trok Mienal
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Posted - 2009.09.19 14:15:00 -
[163]
Today's Update
Total Members: 11 Total Active Within the Past 10 Days: 4 - Including Joe
Total Wars: 5 Corporations at War with the I.C.: Standards and Practices - Member Count 8 Serene Storm Society - Member Count 26 Empire Arms Dealers - Member Count 3 Yakiya Tovil-Toba Memorial Foundation - Member Count 2 Caelestis Iudicium - Member Count 1
Total Pilots at War with Joe Total: 40
Yes, you read that right. The Serene Storm Society has declared war on I.C. once again. From what CEO Abraxus Max tells me they decided to declare war on Joe once again for the following reasons.
1. Joe should not be running a corporation until he is able to be a more effective leader.
2. The members of the SSS asked if a war could be declared until he resigns as CEO.
I think both are good reasons. Needless to say 40 pilots all going after a single incompetent CEO who has no financial backing is really really funny.
Oh and Joe, I am happy to re-apply on Trok at any time and accept the Job as CEO. You know, if you get tired of running in fear in your multiple warp core stab'd drake.
-Trok
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Abenham
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Posted - 2009.09.19 19:39:00 -
[164]
Hi all - just another little update on the Joe watch for those who aren't bored to tears yet.
Was trawling the forums for lack of a better thing to do and came across this little gem.
PVP Joke
For those too lazy to click the link. the joke went like this:
A pirate with a warp disruptor attacks a missioner with a warp drive stabilizer. The missioner warps away. The pirate finds him later and attacks him again but the missioner once again warps out.
The missioner asks "Why do you keep attacking me?"
The pirate replies, "I'm not sure now, I'm starting to think this might be pointless."
This made me think fondly of Joe so I eve mailed him the joke to peruse in his spare time (didn't want to drag him away from any important CEO duties so that's why I eve mailed him instead of the good old private convo)
Unfortunately. I don't think Joe appreciated the joke.
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Baillif
Red Mist Inc.
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Posted - 2009.09.20 02:47:00 -
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What happened I went to go get some food?
Is the press conference over?
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Trok Mienal
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Posted - 2009.09.20 04:35:00 -
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Edited by: Trok Mienal on 20/09/2009 04:36:09
Originally by: Baillif What happened I went to go get some food?
Is the press conference over?
Who knows. Joe seems to have ran away with his tail between his legs. Either that or he is so incompetent he cant even remember to run his own press conference. Joe now has 5 war declarations on him with a combined strength of at least 40 pilots. But as Joe doesn't seem to be thinking rationally (not that he ever does), I don't think hes doing the smart thing and laying low. Instead he no doubt is hiding from the eve forums like a koala bear lost inside the chainsaw section of a Sears and just continuing to go about his old ways in-game.
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Ace Greywolf
Caldari Greywolves
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Posted - 2009.09.20 09:07:00 -
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seems like Joe:s gone awall i just don get it... guy sets up a press conference and when sh*t starts hitting the fan he runs and hides
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ShadowMaiden
Amarr Divine Radiance
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Posted - 2009.09.20 15:00:00 -
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Joe, why are you taking a computer game so seriously?
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Susy Assulu
Caldari Atomic Mexicans
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Posted - 2009.09.20 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: ShadowMaiden Joe, why are you taking a computer game so seriously?
You must understand computer games a much more than just serious they are serious. This alone makes them serious.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.09.20 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Baillif What happened I went to go get some food?
Is the press conference over?
Maybe he took everyone's advice and he is hushing up for the time being until our tiny ADD brains forget about him.
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Grinik
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.09.20 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Andrea Griffin Maybe he took everyone's advice and he is hushing up for the time being until our tiny ADD brains forget about him.
forget about Joe Phoenix?! NEVER! REMEMBER JOE PHOENIX
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2009.09.20 23:39:00 -
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So is this Sairah Aida you hired recently, the "PR Expert" going to take over your press confrence for you Joe?
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Maisonian
Amarr The Green Machine
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Posted - 2009.09.21 17:29:00 -
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Oh ho! Where is Joe?
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Wasteland Baroness
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Posted - 2009.09.21 18:15:00 -
[174]
A/S/L?
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g0ggalor
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Posted - 2009.09.21 21:38:00 -
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So is the Joe show over?
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Ninja Troll
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Posted - 2009.09.21 21:44:00 -
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Errrr, x6 pages and the OP hasn't posted since pg 4!?!
Suggest thread title get changed to include "Dead Horse Beating"
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Zedrik Cayne
Gallente Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2009.09.21 22:16:00 -
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Edited by: Zedrik Cayne on 21/09/2009 22:19:11 The latest on the Joe Show (tm) was put up on my blog over the weekend. But nothing since then. Sorry, no new Joe Show unless the star of the show actually does something.
Um...right..blog link... Here we go.
But nothing terribly exciting there.
Edit: You might want to check out the eve-tribune in a week or two though. Had a pleasant interview over the weekend. --
Originally by: "RedSplat" You're the internet equivalent of a Deepfried Mars bar filled with stupid.
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AdmiralJohn
Gallente The Unknown Bar and Pub
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Posted - 2009.09.21 23:18:00 -
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Speaking of which: Linky
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xDrAgOnSoUlWaRiOrx1996
BOUNTY. HUNTER. MINING. EXSPLORATION. CORPORATION. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.09.22 01:19:00 -
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Someone is stupid in an MMO, I must spread the word via blogs, chat channels and incessant forums posting!!! The world must know about this ground-breaking discovery!!!
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THE L0CK
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Posted - 2009.09.22 04:40:00 -
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Originally by: Joe there is no lee wayn
You make Lee Wayn a sad panda bear
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g0ggalor
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Posted - 2009.09.22 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: AdmiralJohn Speaking of which: Linky
Well, I guess the Joe Show has ended. It was entertaining while it lasted, but its good to see he finally woke up though.
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Sen Roo
Gallente Phoenix Consortium Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2009.09.24 18:43:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix Edited by: Joe Phoenix on 16/09/2009 22:07:41 trok, nobody cares.. we all know you'v been payed off.
And i don't have a favourity communist leader, there systems have always been flawed.
trustworthy joe
I think i should lead because i am a natural leader, basicly.. some people are biult to lead, others are biult to annoy people who lead.
Umm those aren't reasons Joe. Please restate with facts, please.
P.S. Keep up with the great work, Joe! The Joe Show rocks and I haven't laughed like this in a long time.
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Karadan Kaarwen
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Posted - 2009.10.08 12:23:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix
I think I should lead because I am a natural leader, basicly.. some people are biult to lead, others are biult to annoy people who lead.
The mind boggles. It really does. How can anyone be so deluded? Are you the real-life Cartman? You're completely impenetrable to reason and logic. The fantasy world you've created for yourself through a startling array of mental gymnastics is quite a feat to behold. Truly it is a talent, for sure. Unfortunately you seem to have applied this talent in a medium where it is unwarranted. In fact, it simply does not work here as the Joe Show chat logs have so pointedly and catastrophically (for you) shown. I'm not sure how this talent could be applied in the real world but if you were to find an application for it, you'd quickly become rich. I'm sure of it. (I've just thought of some but I don't want to give you any ideas as I'm sure other people would suffer because of it).
Keep up with your delusions of grandeur. You are providing much needed entertainment to the boredom-afflicted masses.
Because of the Joe Show, I've put on 8 pounds in weight. I really didn't think popcorn was so calorific. :(
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Apple Ginger
Minmatar United Security Services and Resources
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Posted - 2009.10.08 12:45:00 -
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Joe Phoenix for CSM
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ShadowMaiden
Amarr Divine Radiance
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Posted - 2009.10.08 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Apple Ginger
Joe Phoenix for CSM
Good idead, he couldn't do a worse job...
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