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Katiana Swan
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Posted - 2009.09.16 06:04:00 -
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Edited by: Katiana Swan on 16/09/2009 06:05:39
Note: 20 million isk IPO
Hi there,
First off a bit about myself.
I have been playing now for approximately 17 days. I paid my first subscription fee 3 days ago. I have found quite a liking to mission running. A few days after I started I found a corporation called Curse of Eternity, who's director Anu Koir took me under his wing. We were planning on starting a new corporation however Anu seems to be semi-MIA at the moment. Anu offered me a couple of loans totalling about 7 million isk advising I repay him once I get out of trial. This has been done and I sincerely thank Anu and the Curse of Ethernity team for all of their help and advice. Its now time for me to move into an area I am fascinated by.
The economics of Eve are truly amazing. I seem to have barely scratched the surface even with the game itself, I have spent some time reading the various market threads around including the bank issues and the guy with an unlimited bond and seemingly no records of a business plan. Whilst I still have a lot to learn, I found very few people source funding for mission running. After chatting in the SCC lounge it appears this is because the amounts are usually quite low and standard loans etc are recommended instead, but wheres the fun in that!
As a new player, I am currently doing level 2 missions in Youl with a very nice station, I have 3 Level 2 agents here and 2 Level 3 so I can virtually progress my whole career without having to move all the time. This also allows me to take the market discussions people on my journey, as I go to higher level agents I will require higher level ships/weaponry etc so I can increase the IPO as I go.
Now, as someone quite busy in real life I find myself with patches of time. Sometimes I have a full weekend to go crazy, whilst another week I may only have a few hours. Thats why I chose an IPO, payment and return will be directly related to the amount of time I put in.
I will be paying dividends every week. This is my plan:
* Start with a 20 million isk IPO - This will cover my cruiser having more appropriate fittings and purchase of cheap rigs
* Maximum Investment Per player - 1 million isk. Shares can be traded if players like but I want to let a fair few in, more will be available when I advance to level 3 agents in 1-3 weeks.
* Return on investment. I want the return to be 60% of all rat bounties. So mission rewards, loyalty points, and mission loot/salvage are my own income but investers get 60% of all rat income. So if I kill a 65,000 isk cruiser, then 39,000 isk is assigned to the investers.
* My full API details are available to anyone and are published below. As I have no secret trade routes or anything I don't see any reason to hide the information. This way investers can check for themselves precisely how much they expect to recieve at any given time.
User ID : 5526030
API Key : 51017D850E934E08B077DF2B119C234BCCB3473E7F844137A455842727BF8405
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Katiana Swan
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Posted - 2009.09.16 06:11:00 -
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* To give people an idea of a typical mission running week (was quite low this week) I made a total of
From 9th Sept to 16th Sept - 699,178 isk
From 2nd Sept to 9th Sept - 1,957,918 isk
If we determine the 60% take for investers :
From 9th Sept to 16th Sept - 419,506 or weekly Return on investment of 2.09%
From 2nd Sept to 9th Sept - 1,174,750 or weekly Return on investment of 5.87%
Assuming an average based on the current two weeks of data:
Average Return on investment for 1 month = 15.92%
I should advise that I was on holidays for 3 days this week so was unable to do much mission running however I was using level 2 agents. During the previous week (2nd to 9th) I was available to run missions however all was done using a Level 1 agent. Therefore I expect the return could actually be significantly higher once I get back on track and into Eve more steadily.
* I don't want to put a time limit (min or max) on this IPO so I reserve the right to close the IPO at any time, paying out the full balance alongside any interest accrued to date.
The corporation has 1,000 shares by default, therefore price on each share will be 20,000 isk representing a total
of 20 million isk. If people want to buy in batches of 1 million the amount of shares would be 50.
Any questions, feel free to put them here or ingame and I will reply as soon as possible.
So simple data:
Average Estimated Return - 3.98% per week
Share cost - 20,000 isk each
Maximum purchase per character - 50 shares (1 million isk)
Interest paid out weekly
API Data public for anyone to monitor
To invest please send the amount of ISK you would like to invest (max 1m) along with description saying how many shares you would like to purchase. Character recieving payment is Katiana Swan. Reservations are acceptable with a 24 hour payment deadline before next in line gets the shares.
Note: Brock had a look through my plan and i have reserved 1 block of shares for him (50)
Kind Regards,
Kat
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Katiana Swan
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Posted - 2009.09.16 06:20:00 -
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reserved
(will be unavailable periodically for the next 2-5 hours)
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Sandrane Kipler
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Posted - 2009.09.16 06:26:00 -
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Edited by: Sandrane Kipler on 16/09/2009 06:30:28
Reserving 50 shares for total of 1m ISK.
Would also like to reserve another 50 shares worth 1M ISK on behalf of corporation Transfixion.
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Jadun
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Posted - 2009.09.16 06:49:00 -
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yo ho
do you insure your ship?, why only 60 % of rat bountys? why not a 60 % cut from net?
5% seems very low.
if i give you 20 mil isk will you stop posting?
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ISit InStation
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Posted - 2009.09.16 07:50:00 -
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Edited by: ISit InStation on 16/09/2009 07:50:38
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Kahetha's Syster
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Posted - 2009.09.16 08:02:00 -
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1m sent for 50 shares
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Norah Sin
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Posted - 2009.09.16 08:37:00 -
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1 mill for 50 shares. Sent.
Surprising this IPO, and even more from a new missioner. Nothing wrong while you keep things in this thread. Best wishes.
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Martosh Toma
Gallente
Fraction Investment
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Posted - 2009.09.16 08:47:00 -
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1m for 50 shares (isk sent)
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Nihn Lemai
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Posted - 2009.09.16 09:05:00 -
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I want to reserve 1 million isk, Ill send it to you next time I login (later today).
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Maxmillian Syfax
Silver Snake Enterprise
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Posted - 2009.09.16 09:12:00 -
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I want to reserve 1 block of shares (50 shares) at 1 million ISK. ISK will be send in aprox 7 hours(when i get home from work).
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Allen Heath
Dark Rising Shadow
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.09.16 09:21:00 -
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Want to reserve 1 million ISK in shares. Will sent ISK when i log in tonight around 1700 Eve Time.
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Coin Flipper
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Posted - 2009.09.16 10:16:00 -
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1m sent for 50 shares
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Katiana Swan
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Posted - 2009.09.16 10:40:00 -
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 Originally by: Jadun
yo ho
do you insure your ship?, why only 60 % of rat bountys? why not a 60 % cut from net?
5% seems very low.
if i give you 20 mil isk will you stop posting?
Thanks for your questions. Yes I insure my ship, the IPO is more for fittings as I already have a cruiser and some named fittings, I just need a couple of rigs and a few items slightly better named.
60% of rat bounties alone allows the other income streams to ensure I can recover ship losses etc on my own. from what I can tell, an expected Return on investment of 13-20% per month seems fairly above average.
Finally, if I wanted a hand out or loan I probably would have accepted it when offered by my corporation and a few people in the SCC Lounge. I am fascinated by the economic depth this game has to offer. It's probably the main factor in my joining and subscribing as it really shows just how deep this game goes. I probably still don't know about 97% of what this game has to offer from what I have seen so far.
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Katiana Swan
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Posted - 2009.09.16 10:45:00 -
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Will be available in-game both before and after downtime. I would like to make an amendment to my first post where I advised Anu had been paid in full. I had the entire forum post in a text document and wasn't planning on launching for a few days. In actual fact, I haven't yet paid Anu back but am saving for it, should be able to do so in the next few hours. Anyone wanting their transaction reversed as a result please let me know and I will organize it. I wanted to put this here to ensure existing investors were updated to this.
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Samartio
Minmatar
Mas Incorperated.
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Posted - 2009.09.16 11:16:00 -
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I would like to reserve 50 shares, will send the isk when i get home.
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DrefsabZN
Caldari
Butterfly Effect Corp.
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Posted - 2009.09.16 11:24:00 -
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Nice start at dipping your toe into this, though its not for me, sure your only asking for 1 mil per person but the return on that just isn't enough for me to goto the effort of investing.
Though I wish you all the best of luck :)
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.09.16 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: DrefsabZN
Nice start at dipping your toe into this, though its not for me, sure your only asking for 1 mil per person but the return on that just isn't enough for me to goto the effort of investing.
Though I wish you all the best of luck :)
Someone has a high standard...
This IPO is offering roughly 4% per week while most of the larger IPO are offering 1-2% per week...
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trickamonis
Intergalactic Shared Services Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.16 12:39:00 -
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Edited by: trickamonis on 16/09/2009 12:39:41
I would like to reserve 50 shares for 1 million ISK. Will send ISK when I login later at about 1900 eve time. Thanks.
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DrefsabZN
Caldari
Butterfly Effect Corp.
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Posted - 2009.09.16 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: Brock Nelson
Someone has a high standard...
This IPO is offering roughly 4% per week while most of the larger IPO are offering 1-2% per week...
I wasn't in anyway suggesting the percentage was not good, just the amount of return I would see volume wise. Percentage wise its great but given only a maximum of 40k isk return per week its not enough to excite me. Should I be able to invest larger figures id defiantly be interested. So I wasn't in any way commenting badly but instead saying good luck and perhaps if they offer a larger bond in future I will look to invest.
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Katiana Swan
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Posted - 2009.09.16 13:06:00 -
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All payments and reservations are listed in post 3. All of those who have paid have had shares sent to them.
Thank you kindly to all investors and comments
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Taram Caldar
GK inc.
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Posted - 2009.09.16 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: DrefsabZN
Originally by: Brock Nelson
Someone has a high standard...
This IPO is offering roughly 4% per week while most of the larger IPO are offering 1-2% per week...
I wasn't in anyway suggesting the percentage was not good, just the amount of return I would see volume wise. Percentage wise its great but given only a maximum of 40k isk return per week its not enough to excite me. Should I be able to invest larger figures id defiantly be interested. So I wasn't in any way commenting badly but instead saying good luck and perhaps if they offer a larger bond in future I will look to invest.
Have to agree. I admire the OP for dipping his toes into MD this way but the ROI on this is so small that for many it's not worth bothering.
Best of luck to the OP though, and welcome to MD :)
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Magnu Stormhawk
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Posted - 2009.09.16 14:11:00 -
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Please reserve me a 1 million investment.
Will transfer in next few hours.
Nicely presented Kat 
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Tre Circuit
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Posted - 2009.09.16 14:22:00 -
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Reserve 50 shares for 1m isk for me please. Will send the isk this evening after work.
Thank you.
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Nemex
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.09.16 14:24:00 -
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I'll reserve 50 Shares (1 Million). Will transfer over the isk when I get home.
Thanks.
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Dretzle Omega
Caldari
Global Economy Experts
Stellar Economy Experts
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Posted - 2009.09.16 14:36:00 -
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I love to see the enthusiasm from the OP, and even posting API Key right on the forums.
I'm slightly concerned, however, at seeing with your API that you recently had a destroyer loss in Youl and your only other ship besides shuttles is a destroyer fitted for mining in Hek. Are you only trying to replace your destroyer loss? If you did insure it, why were you unable to replace it and in fact bought modules in Youl instead of a ship?
Also, you claim to like the dynamics of the Eve economy, hence this IPO instead of accepting an offered donation from your corp, but I see that you are in fact your corporation's CEO with 0 members. I would like to know more about your history and why you started a corp only for this IPO?
Note: Please don't take this as undue criticism. You opened up your full API Key to investors, so it's only warranted to get some answers to any that may be concerned that you are responsible with the ISK and trustworthy. I know it's only 1 Mil per person, but you wanted some experience, so.... :)
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Atima
Minmatar
House of Marbles
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Posted - 2009.09.16 14:40:00 -
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I'll vouch to cover its not a scam. I already tried giving the OP more isk than he asked for. Swiftly returned refusing handouts.
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Dretzle Omega
Caldari
Global Economy Experts
Stellar Economy Experts
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Posted - 2009.09.16 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: Atima
I'll vouch to cover its not a scam. I already tried giving the OP more isk than he asked for. Swiftly returned refusing handouts.
That's cool. And I honestly doubt it's a scam. Just giving the OP some auditing experience. (Err... this being my first attempt at an audit. :P )
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Katiana Swan
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Posted - 2009.09.16 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Dretzle Omega
I love to see the enthusiasm from the OP, and even posting API Key right on the forums.
I'm slightly concerned, however, at seeing with your API that you recently had a destroyer loss in Youl and your only other ship besides shuttles is a destroyer fitted for mining in Hek. Are you only trying to replace your destroyer loss? If you did insure it, why were you unable to replace it and in fact bought modules in Youl instead of a ship?
Also, you claim to like the dynamics of the Eve economy, hence this IPO instead of accepting an offered donation from your corp, but I see that you are in fact your corporation's CEO with 0 members. I would like to know more about your history and why you started a corp only for this IPO?
Note: Please don't take this as undue criticism. You opened up your full API Key to investors, so it's only warranted to get some answers to any that may be concerned that you are responsible with the ISK and trustworthy. I know it's only 1 Mil per person, but you wanted some experience, so.... :)
Thanks for your comments Dretzle.
I was doing recon mission level 1 at the time where I had to run quickly to the stargate and just run through to the end not killing everything. I attempted the mission multiple times in my cruiser and kept getting hammered by the npcs almost losing it so I pulled out my old destroyer (from my level 1 missions) and fitted it for speed (hence the overdrives and afterburner). I almost got to the gate but it died unfortunately. I then tried going through with my capsule but it wouldn't let me :)
The destroyer plus fittings was about 1.3m loss maybe a little more but it wasn't in use any more anyway. I would have preferred to not lose it but didn't want to cancel mission and lose my standings.
As to this corp, I just started this corporation about 6 minutes before I posted my offering. If you do a search for my old corp in my first post and my employment history you will see I was there before hand (ie minutes before the post). I just wanted to be organised when creating the IPO.
There isn't much to tell about my previous history. I have only been playing this time for just over two weeks. I tried Eve a couple of years ago but stopped playing after about 2 months as real life requirements kicked in. If that happens again I will close the IPO and pay back investors.
I am happy to answer any questions, your post showed that you done your research which I think is important seeing how some other operations have had various issues when not performed.
I hope this helps.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2009.09.16 14:57:00 -
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Put me down for 50 shares if there are any left.
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