Everyone in 0.0 to murder has gotten used to being murdered so they don't give the same delightful squeal a highsec miner does when they lose everything they own.

Everyone in 0.0 to murder has gotten used to being murdered so they don't give the same delightful squeal a highsec miner does when they lose everything they own.

If you chill out on your blue list you wouldn't have this issue.

my pride, it is wounded from noname empire pubbies insulting our mighty space empire

Has 0.0 become boring ?

my pride, it is wounded from noname empire pubbies insulting our mighty space empire

Why else would people turn to high sec miners to get their kills? It's pretty obvious null sec has failed to attract players in enough numbers to make it worthwhile. Apparently only high sec has done that.

0.0 has been stagnate for quite some time now. Even when NC was still alive it was.

You must not have that much pride then, if that comment was enough to wound it.

not just wound, gravely wound

It will be ok, what ever doesn't kill ya only makes you stronger. Or just make sure your leaders don't forget to pay the bills again.

0.0 has been stagnate for quite some time now. Even when NC was still alive it was.

Everyone in 0.0 to murder has gotten used to being murdered so they don't give the same delightful squeal a highsec miner does when they lose everything they own.

I'm not a miner and I don't care if people gank each other in hisec or not, but I'm intrigued as to why the so called large 0.0 alliances seem so intent on shooting miners, mission runners and industrials in hi sec. Has 0.0 changed so much with the loss of BOB and the NC that there are no large scale 0.0 wars anymore? Is 0.0 the new safe space where it's great for miners and industrials but it's driven all the PvP players out? Is ganking low skill (game or RL), easy targets what they now think a challenge is or did I think CAOD got boring too soon and if I went back and read it again I'd discover a wealth of fantastical warriors' tales of bravery and heroic deeds? No? Oh, guess they're just bored of 0.0 then.

Discuss...

1) Why do the 'so called large 0.0 alliances' (I'll assume that is a way to say goons) seem so intent on shooting miners, mission runners and industrialists in high sec?

Because of the vitriolic, irrational, over the top responses. Seriously, read some of the **** you post, no wonder they keep doing it.

2) Has 0.0 changed so much with the loss of BOB and the NC that there are no large scale 0.0 wars anymore?

No, if anything 0.0 is more volatile now then ever before, with smaller alliances and shifting coalitions becoming more the norm rather than the exception. If you are looking to pvp in nullsec, there are endless opportunities.

3) Is 0.0 the new safe space where it's great for miners and industrials but it's driven all the PvP players out?

0.0 Is fairly safe for experienced players, but no safer than it was in the past, so i don't see why any current mechanics would be 'forcing people out.

4) Is ganking low skill (game or RL), easy targets what they now think a challenge is or did I think CAOD got boring too soon and if I went back and read it again I'd discover a wealth of fantastical warriors' tales of bravery and heroic deeds?

Is that english? If you are looking for stories about nullsec fights, there are other places to read those battle reports. However, the vast majority of fights in nulllsec are not thread worthy, neither side feels strong enough about it to make a thread just to complain. However, people who lose hulks very often feel the need to complain loudly and frequently, so there are tons of whine threads.

-Dim

Having dabbled in nearly everything EvE has to offer, I find the entire game boring now.

I unsubbed, but later came back because the thing I missed and enjoyed the most was the forum trolling. $15 per month to post on these forums? Sure.

Our leadership is actually pretty embarrassed that there isn't a single goon in the top 5 on the killboards.

Train up Covert Ops so you can AFK cloak to.

That's just...entirely too much effort for an afk cloak alt.

Cloaking 1, any frigate, prototype cloaking device. Harvest.

haha, is this what you've been up to degren?

Oh, guess they're just bored of 0.0 then.

Discuss...

Many of the PVP alliances have cut goon a NIP

Richard who cares, really. I'm just saying I think it would be more fun with a grand scale, life and death war. That's all.

NCdot, Ev0ke and PL are some of the best, if not the best 0.0 PVP alliances in the game. I rest my case.

Everyone in 0.0 to murder has gotten used to being murdered so they don't give the same delightful squeal a highsec miner does when they lose everything they own.

People in known space are used to local channel. They rely on it for everything they do. Trying to warm them up to the idea of removing it; is like trying to convince Sally Struthers that putting down the cupcake is a good idea.

Your avatar is just my type, although I think you're probably a huge baked-bean shaped Yorkshireman with a beard like a rhododendron bush.

Anyway, removing local would suck, so let's not go there.

I think making things like moon resources somewhat dynamic would solve these problems.

Different parts of 0.0 would become more or less attractive to be in over time and this would make it more or less attractive to fight over them.

It would suck for the lazy and cowardly.

You can always move to a wormhole if you hate local that much.

You want a system that declares a winner based on who was not bored to death first? Pretty sure we have that already!

Has Tobiaz posted his jump gate rant yet? Pretty sure he's that last forum crusader we need to complete the collection. Do you guys have a sixth sense or something? "I sense a thread related to nullsec. Better go and hijack the discussion with my walls of text about sweeping mechanical changes that everyone else thinks is stupid or is already being implemented by CCP except better!"

Thanks for sharing.

Null has empty systems because using broken mechanics, null power blocks keep them empty. Yet come to the forums and complain that they are empty.

All in all, due to the ease of power projection, territory that screams the second any of it is being threatened without having to actually have a single person there, null players are able to come into high sec, bored. So they want to be entertained. If they were busy defending territory, busy dealing with the local enemies, busy patrolling around, busy actually doing something in the space they stab their flag in... They would not have time to hang out in high sec and using infinite ISK, yet complain on the forums that income sucks in null... wtf??, to waste all Hulks in sight and give zero fucks.

Let me address some of your points and hopefully correct some misconceptions

Nullsec systems are empty because we keep them empty - False. Nullsec systems are empty because they are worthless for individual isk generation, so nobody comes here and nobody wants to take space. There are only a few systems per region with sufficiantly low truesec to generate anomolies that generate decent isk, and they're invariably deep inside the region at the end of dead-end constellations. When I say 'decent isk' I mean 'passable isk', if you want to talk about 'decent isk' you can run level 4 missions in highsec in perfect safety.

We should be busy patrolling and doing home defense fleets - False. A roaming gang coming into our space isn't a threat, it's just a minor annoyance. If someone actually started SBUing our systems or reinforcing our towers then we'd form up and defend, and we have timers for the great structure shooting ballet that is Sov and POS warfare. Usually what happens when we form up for a home defense fleet is that a roaming invader will blueball us. Camping gates and aimlessly patrolling are probably the most boring things you can do. We want fights not blueballs. In any case its irrelevant as who else plays with just one account and one character these days? I can be in 2 places at once.

Maybe if the risk/reward scale wasn't so broken and people had a reason to actually come to nullsec for profit, then maybe we'd have more to do in our home regions. As I said though, most of nullsec is worthless, and there's no reason for you to leave your comfy little level 4 missions and highsec belts, so we have to come to you.

npc corp posters weigh in on 0.0

npc corp posters weigh in on 0.0

Yet another point you are agreeing with me somewhat. There needs to be changes so that roaming gang is a threat. A threat that forces you to get off your fat ass and do something about it or your space will suffer some significant damage in some shape. Yes only if they drop an SBU, attack a POS or attack station services will you decide to do something about it. Again, more mechanics that are terrible, like I have said before, based on high HP structures and timers.

Because people in nullsec don't, generally, cry like little bitches when their space pixels get blown up in a space pixel game.

Ganking is a very specific pastime that has little to do with anything but ganking.

Yes only if they drop an SBU, attack a POS or attack station services will you decide to do something about it. Again, more mechanics that are terrible, like I have said before, based on high HP structures and timers.

I'm not a miner and I don't care if people gank each other in hisec or not, but I'm intrigued as to why the so called large 0.0 alliances seem so intent on shooting miners, mission runners and industrials in hi sec. Has 0.0 changed so much with the loss of BOB and the NC that there are no large scale 0.0 wars anymore? Is 0.0 the new safe space where it's great for miners and industrials but it's driven all the PvP players out? Is ganking low skill (game or RL), easy targets what they now think a challenge is or did I think CAOD got boring too soon and if I went back and read it again I'd discover a wealth of fantastical warriors' tales of bravery and heroic deeds? No? Oh, guess they're just bored of 0.0 then.

Discuss...

Because people in nullsec don't, generally, cry when their space pixels get blown up in a space pixel game.

Ganking is a very specific pastime that has little to do with anything but ganking.

They'll have to leave their own region as well, but they'll probably need to go via empire to buy a PvP ship as ratting BS and miners aren't much use in a fleet fight.

When was the last time a major sov holding alliance reset everyone? I has to have been years ago by now...but I could be wrong.

Unlimited corporation and alliance size. The #1 reason for 0.0 sucking.

That doesn't change anything. You can't stop people from playing together.

Reset Test

When was it interesting? Oh right - 5 years ago it was more interesting that high sec. 3 years ago you had more fun in Jita. 2 years ago missions became more interesting. Hell, ship spinning is more fun.

Unlimited corporation and alliance size. The #1 reason for 0.0 sucking.

Oh yes you can, and you should, or enjoy the boredom that 0.0 has become.

highsec isn't so bad. It's the people who live there that make it bad.

That doesn't change anything. You can't stop people from playing together. The problem is that holding space is dumb and mostly unprofitable with the new tech nerfs. There is no economical reason to invade anyone now.

Perhaps it was one reason, but I seriously doubt that it is the ONLY reason. Holding space is about more than just economic solvency when it comes to this game.

This man speaks truth. Imagine a real life game (basketball / football / baseball) where teams were allowed to bring an unlimited number of players to the field.

There is, and always has been a reason to go to Null for profit, and nothing in the time I've been playing (over 3 years now) about that has changed...but there can't be any level of profit worth putting up with all the crap moving to null entails, nor the idiots that already populate null.

And that's the real problem...people.

personally I am a huge carebear who hates nothing more than goodfytes so I support the removal of local in null

And btw we're all savvy to you and tests recruitment scams.