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DarthNefarius
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Posted - 2012.06.06 11:03:00 -
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Apolyon I wrote:lets see how long does this thread last
Apolyon Troll go eff yourself
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DarthNefarius
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Posted - 2012.06.08 01:00:00 -
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Lunkwill Khashour wrote:sabre906 wrote:[quote=Apolyon I]
Go check CCP's official server graph. Too lazy to link it. Largest drop in subscribers was last summer. The recent drop took place on May 15th. This date doesn't correlate to anything happening in EvE. If only there was a major gaming event that could somehow explain this "diabolical" drop.
May 15th was the first mid month date ater the Incursion NERF June 15th is the second & the day I'm considering unsubbing
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DarthNefarius
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Posted - 2012.06.11 20:14:00 -
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Zanza Mechonis wrote:[quote=DarthNefarius][quote=Lunkwill Khashour][quote=sabre906][
Also, if you're unsubbing just because incursions don't bring up so much isk anymore, go ahead, i'll be happy to see the free spots in fleets when I switch to incursions... :P
I'm always a FC there will be 10-20 less slots
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DarthNefarius
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Posted - 2012.06.12 22:04:00 -
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Heun zero wrote:Heun zero wrote:
Also, if you're unsubbing just because incursions don't bring up so much isk anymore, go ahead, i'll be happy to see the free spots in fleets when I switch to incursions... :P
Darth Nefarius wrote:
I'm always a FC there will be 10-20 less slots
in that case it means we have a whole fleet less in the incursions which means it's even easier to make isk in the sites
Good luck with the OTA sites...
Looks like once again CCP is ignoring feedback by the majority o those that run Incursions with the changes they announced :
Lyron-Baktos wrote:Borlag Crendraven wrote:The problem in that will be that you wont see much if any changes in the way people run (or rather don't run) incursions if you don't change it so that people actually want to run the sites again. Sure, for null sec players that influence bar change will change it for the better, but for the low sec and high sec players it will mean very little, same with that 10% isk reward. The whole thing just seems so backwards done that it's not even funny, right from the start when you nerfed them to the way you're backtracking on the wrong things.
Incursioners for the most part would be content with smaller reward, but incursioners for the most part will be looking for other activities if the fleets don't run. That's something you haven't adressed at all with this announcement. You basically have content that no one wants to use, where's the sense in that? This is it exactly CCP It's mentioned that VG's fell to the floor after your last change but you are not asking "why did they fall to the floor and what was the biggest reason they fell to the floor?" You are not drilling down to the real root cause. Now, if changing the OTA's is not a simple fix and one you can't get to right now, so you are adjusting the issues you can fix in hopes it will work is all you can do, then that is fine. Just be honest. At least I don't hope you are really counting on the new fixes to fix the issue 
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Posted - 2012.06.13 15:30:00 -
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Kamden Line wrote:I ran an incursion this evening just to see what the fuss was about. I used my PVP Tengu and refit it for an incursion (about seventy mil for rigs + faction painter+faction ammo+etc).
The assault sat at a gate for while because we didn't have enough logi. We grabbed a nightmare, and use him to cap transfer with the Basi, which worked out fine for us. When we ran the site, it was fun. Comms were entertaining and light-hearted.
But the pay out was pathetic. I could have in the same time, made more in both LP and ISK running level 4s then running assaults, and I think this is the root of the problem: Group PVP that takes a while to form up pays less. People respond to both ISK and fun. Incursions have plenty of fun, but I could've run four level fours in the time it took get one incursion finished, and I can assure anyone that level fours make me want to tear my eyes out.
So, at the root of the problem is this: Why bother running group content when you can do it solo, at less danger and cost to yourself, and still make equivalent money? Until CCP figures that one out, I guess incursions will remain in their rather depleted state of being.
Also, to the trolls, I'm actually genuinely tired to read the ******** shiptoasting I'm seeing in this thread.
CCP decimated the Incursion numbers and took a 2 month wait & see it'll get better attitude. THE STATS ARE OBVIOUS THE NUMBERS WILL NOT COME BACK. CCP is now rolling back 1 very minor and 1 other major issue which niether will bring back any numbers to the now dead NULL/LO Sec communities and will allow 1/2 the HI SEC communities still alive to tread water while the other 1/4 left will drown with the same wait and see atitiude. CCP isn't addressing the root o the problem and is ignoring the 900 pound gorilla of the OTA's
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