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MeBiatch Republic University Minmatar Republic 363	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:09:00 - [1] - Quote There is a great cry among the miner community due to the fact that they are being griefed and its encouraged from CCPGÇª In the eyes of CCP miners have no right being in high sec and they should be forced to move to null sec GÇ£where its supposed to be safe?GÇ¥GÇª But look how the CSM has manipulated their position when it comes to the war dec formulaGÇª Apparently if you have more peeps in your corp/alliance it should be more expensive to war dec you!??!?!? Yes you read that right! In the eyes of CCP large nullbears alliances should be aloud to roam free in highsec without having to worry about being killedGÇª How can it on one hand be unfair to have cheep war dec costs because of the perception that it would be unfair to nullbears due to having high sec no longer be GÇ£safeGÇ¥GÇª when the same people say that miners should be targeted and harassed because they have no right to be safe in high sec? Either fix the war dec formula so if people like goons and so on want to have a high sec campaign they should be persona non grataGÇª every high sec corp should be war decced with them and have it cost effectiveGÇª Or if the csm is right and high sec should be reasonably safe then just increase the PG of the hulk so it can fit a LSE Make harder hits for sec status for suicide ganks and make it so someone with negative sec status cant use an orca to reshipGÇª Common CCP this hypocrisy is nauseating! PLEX FOR PIZZA! TECH iii MINNING SHIPS!
D3F4ULT 81	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:16:00 - [2] - Quote You dont have to be at war to kill someone in this game. Want to kill them? Go to null and quit crying on the forums while docked. Posting wont solve your problems. Creator of CCP ZULU - Incarna : Pants Online ( http://youtu.be/AObrlCf3Dcs )
Lucy Ferrr Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 62	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:16:00 - [3] - Quote Cry more?
Richard Desturned GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 803	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:17:00 - [4] - Quote there's about 60 hisec corps/alliances that have figured out how to wardec us for free eh
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 7714	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:18:00 - [5] - Quote The cost of wardecs has zero impact on your ability to attack nullbears. Hulks are already reasonably safe is they fit a tank. Increasing sec penalties for ganks has zero impact unless the victims decide to start shooting back (they won't). Restricting players' use of ships as a function of sec status makes no sense. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
Richard Desturned GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 803	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:18:00 - [6] - Quote ~nullbears~ what the **** does that even mean eh
Ituhata Saken Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 274	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:19:00 - [7] - Quote I think he meant its not fair that the largest alliances have to pay more to wardec smaller ones. I was aroused and confused but after reading it several times I finally understood. Seems the players are handling the change just fine and without even issuing a wardec. You know what an answer is? It's a terminus -- an end. Answers are fine, but questions are where it's at. Questions bring us closer to understanding, -áthey can start a conversation or spark a revolution. So you might as well start asking... now.-á ~See you on the other side 6/6/12~
TheBreadMuncher Boxxed Up Industries EPIC Alliance 95	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:20:00 - [8] - Quote Richard Desturned wrote: ~nullbears~ what the **** does that even mean I think I invented the term while sperging. Essentially, it's a nullsec resident who sits in their POS or outpost whenever a red appears in local, and spends the rest of their time ratting, running complexes or mining. Also whines whenever anything happens to nullsec. A nullsec carebear. Also - OP? Quit whining. Ain't nobody got time for dat. I only ever emerge from the shadows when my main is banned.
highonpop Void.Tech Fatal Ascension 86	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:22:00 - [9] - Quote OP is mad he hasnt figured out how to play EVE yet. THE EVE-O FORUMS GENERAL SECTION = CAREBEAR TEARS CENTRAL *Butt Hurt about Harrasment?-á*https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=88362&find=unread My post was probably full of typos. I don;t care...
Ituhata Saken Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 274	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:23:00 - [10] - Quote TheBreadMuncher wrote: Richard Desturned wrote: ~nullbears~ what the **** does that even mean I think I invented the term while sperging. Essentially, it's a nullsec resident who sits in their POS or outpost whenever a red appears in local, and spends the rest of their time ratting, running complexes or mining. Also whines whenever anything happens to nullsec. A nullsec carebear. Also - OP? Quit whining. Ain't nobody got time for dat. I must have never been a nullbear. I warped to a safe and cloaked. You know what an answer is? It's a terminus -- an end. Answers are fine, but questions are where it's at. Questions bring us closer to understanding, -áthey can start a conversation or spark a revolution. So you might as well start asking... now.-á ~See you on the other side 6/6/12~
D3F4ULT 81	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:23:00 - [11] - Quote IMO if you really want to be safe go play on sisi and mine. Thats waht you want right? Solo play, Just mine, afford everything on market and not get shot at. Sounds exciting. Creator of CCP ZULU - Incarna : Pants Online ( http://youtu.be/AObrlCf3Dcs )
Richard Desturned GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 803	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:23:00 - [12] - Quote TheBreadMuncher wrote: I think I invented the term while sperging. Essentially, it's a nullsec resident who sits in their POS or outpost whenever a red appears in local, and spends the rest of their time ratting, running complexes or mining. Also whines whenever anything happens to nullsec. A nullsec carebear. its definition has expanded to "anyone who lives in nullsec" lmao eh
March rabbit Trojan Trolls Red Alliance 194	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:28:00 - [13] - Quote Richard Desturned wrote: ~nullbears~ what the **** does that even mean this word is shortcut of goonswarm member who "pvp" in empire suicide killing miners and getting reimbursed by alliance.
Richard Desturned GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 803	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:30:00 - [14] - Quote March rabbit wrote: this word is shortcut of goonswarm member who "pvp" in empire suicide killing miners and getting reimbursed by alliance. lmao we can't get a GSF member in the top10 list for hulkageddon and you think we're doing the ganking "I can pay half of the working class to kill the other half" eh
Jafit Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 188	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:30:00 - [15] - Quote MeBiatch wrote: Either fix the war dec formula so if people like goons and so on want to have a high sec campaign they should be persona non grataGÇª every high sec corp should be war decced with them and have it cost effectiveGÇª Or if the csm is right and high sec should be reasonably safe then just increase the PG of the hulk so it can fit a LSE Make harder hits for sec status for suicide ganks and make it so someone with negative sec status cant use an orca to reshipGÇª Common CCP this hypocrisy is nauseating! Forget having to pay attention Forget setting your hulk's tank up properly Forget mining in groups Forget using logistics cruisers Forget mining in battleships Forget moving to lowsec or nullsec Forget mining in cheaper T1 barges Instead, CCP please change the game so I don't have to do anything different. Thx.
Roisin Saoirse Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 149	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:32:00 - [16] - Quote MeBiatch wrote: In the eyes of CCP miners have no right being in high sec and they should be forced to move to null sec GÇ£where its supposed to be safe?GÇ¥GÇª ... How can it on one hand be unfair to have cheep war dec costs because of the perception that it would be unfair to nullbears due to having high sec no longer be GÇ£safeGÇ¥GÇª when the same people say that miners should be targeted and harassed because they have no right to be safe in high sec? CCP aren't against highsec miners, they've actually defended them against years of nullsec whines that there should be fewer and smaller belts in highsec (and no ice at all). The people trying to force mining out of highsec at the moment tend to be bored nullseccers with nothing better to do than whine, and lazy people who can only win fights against other people when they don't shoot back. The bounties on exhumers from GSF aren't really relevant as any form of income incentive since they only offset the losses from suicide ganking - they don't actually reward it. The issue with the war dec formula is just another example of the CCP disconnect between what they believe wardecs should be used for (legal PvP between entities in highsec), and what they're actually being used for (griefing small and/or industrial corps). The claim 'more people in a corp means more targets, and that's what you're paying for' sounds good on paper, but since most wardecs are intended for minimum-risk griefing and easy kills it doesn't hold water in the real EVE.
MeBiatch Republic University Minmatar Republic 363	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:32:00 - [17] - Quote Richard Desturned wrote: TheBreadMuncher wrote: I think I invented the term while sperging. Essentially, it's a nullsec resident who sits in their POS or outpost whenever a red appears in local, and spends the rest of their time ratting, running complexes or mining. Also whines whenever anything happens to nullsec. A nullsec carebear. its definition has expanded to "anyone who lives in nullsec" lmao this is true due to coalition blocks and isk faucets pvp in null sec is like sisi for everyone else... there is zero risk for loosing your regular ships... plus things like hulkageddon actually pay for goons reinbursment program... this is not true for everyone else who plays the game either in faction null sec or the rest of space... at least in WH space it takes some effort to get ships there... PLEX FOR PIZZA! TECH iii MINNING SHIPS!
Richard Desturned GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 803	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:34:00 - [18] - Quote Roisin Saoirse wrote: this is true due to coalition blocks and isk faucets pvp in null sec is like sisi for everyone else... there is zero risk for loosing your regular ships... plus things like hulkageddon actually pay for goons reinbursment program... this is not true for everyone else who plays the game either in faction null sec or the rest of space... at least in WH space it takes some effort to get ships there... Reimbursement programs only cover PvP losses and are meant to encourage members to reship and get back into fights rather than spending 4 hours ratting up ISK for a new ship hope this helps eh
March rabbit Trojan Trolls Red Alliance 194	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:34:00 - [19] - Quote Richard Desturned wrote: March rabbit wrote: this word is shortcut of goonswarm member who "pvp" in empire suicide killing miners and getting reimbursed by alliance. lmao we can't get a GSF member in the top10 list for hulkageddon and you think we're doing the ganking this is only measurement of your success and "pvp-skill" which doesn't decline your "nullbear-ness"
MeBiatch Republic University Minmatar Republic 363	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:34:00 - [20] - Quote Jafit wrote: MeBiatch wrote: Either fix the war dec formula so if people like goons and so on want to have a high sec campaign they should be persona non grataGÇª every high sec corp should be war decced with them and have it cost effectiveGÇª Or if the csm is right and high sec should be reasonably safe then just increase the PG of the hulk so it can fit a LSE Make harder hits for sec status for suicide ganks and make it so someone with negative sec status cant use an orca to reshipGÇª Common CCP this hypocrisy is nauseating! Forget having to pay attention Forget setting your hulk's tank up properly Forget mining in groups Forget using logistics cruisers Forget mining in battleships Forget moving to lowsec or nullsec Forget mining in cheaper T1 barges Instead, CCP please change the game so I don't have to do anything different. Thx. right and the same could be said for local in 0.0... pretty much you can do a ring sanctum in your nyx half asleep while watching **** and never die... either high sec is not safe for all or its semi safe for most... its the double standard that currently exists that makes it unbalanced... PLEX FOR PIZZA! TECH iii MINNING SHIPS!
Richard Desturned GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 803	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:37:00 - [21] - Quote March rabbit wrote: this is only measurement of your success and "pvp-skill" which doesn't decline your "nullbear-ness" The measurement of an alliance's success is its ability to take space and defend it. The alliance you are in, a faded shadow of its former self (which was a shadow of its former self as well, ~heh~), failed miserably at this when Insmother fell. On the other hand, when we faced an invasion, we promptly trapped the hostile supercaps in their staging towers and destroyed all of the progress they had made up until that point. So please tell me more about "measures of success" laff eh
Nicolo da'Vicenza Divine Power. Cascade Imminent 1078	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:38:00 - [22] - Quote what the hell is this crybaby crap?
Nicolo da'Vicenza Divine Power. Cascade Imminent 1078	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:38:00 - [23] - Quote Richard Desturned wrote: March rabbit wrote: this is only measurement of your success and "pvp-skill" which doesn't decline your "nullbear-ness" The measurement of an alliance's success is its ability to take space and defend it. The alliance you are in, a faded shadow of its former self, failed miserably at this when Insmother fell. On the other hand, when we faced an invasion, we promptly trapped the hostile supercaps in their staging towers and destroyed all of the progress they had made up until that point. So please tell me more about "measures of success" laff Maybe he thought he was joining RvB
MeBiatch Republic University Minmatar Republic 364	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:39:00 - [24] - Quote Richard Desturned wrote: March rabbit wrote: this is only measurement of your success and "pvp-skill" which doesn't decline your "nullbear-ness" The measurement of an alliance's success is its ability to take space and defend it. The alliance you are in, a faded shadow of its former self, failed miserably at this when Insmother fell. laff really i thought it was get former members of said alliance to join corp that makes game and then design game mechanics that allow you to have unlimited money and make it so no one can start from scartch and eliminate you... PLEX FOR PIZZA! TECH iii MINNING SHIPS!
Roisin Saoirse Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 149	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:40:00 - [25] - Quote March rabbit wrote: this is only measurement of your success and "pvp-skill" which doesn't decline your "nullbear-ness" Red Alliance, best alliance.
Dragon Outlaw Rogue Fleet 111	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:41:00 - [26] - Quote Richard Desturned wrote: there's about 60 hisec corps/alliances that have figured out how to wardec us for free They attack them in RL ?
Richard Desturned GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 803	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:42:00 - [27] - Quote MeBiatch wrote: really i thought it was get former members of said alliance to join corp that makes game and then design game mechanics that allow you to have unlimited money and make it so no one can start from scartch and eliminate you... Technetium was made the bottleneck mineral in Dominion, when we held Delve, which does not have any tech moons. What prevents anybody from "starting from scratch and eliminating us?" eh
Nicolo da'Vicenza Divine Power. Cascade Imminent 1078	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:42:00 - [28] - Quote anyways, I agree with MeBiatch CCP, turn all of highsec into 0.0 space so that all highsec carebears get access to our super-safe riskfree 'isk faucets'
War Kitten Panda McLegion 900	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:45:00 - [29] - Quote tl;dr: 1. Incorrect premises 2. Spurious logic 3. Tears 4. ??? 5. Beg CCP for Profit! Here's your sign...
Darth Tickles Dark Sun Consortium 626	Posted - 2012.06.06 15:46:00 - [30] - Quote Richard Desturned wrote: MeBiatch wrote: really i thought it was get former members of said alliance to join corp that makes game and then design game mechanics that allow you to have unlimited money and make it so no one can start from scartch and eliminate you... Technetium was made the bottleneck mineral in Dominion, when we held Delve, which does not have any tech moons. What prevents anybody from "starting from scratch and eliminating us?" Even more than that, the dominion moon revamp was in effect a goon "nerf" in that goons held the best regions for the then bottlenecked moons, and had no credible threats to this position (except sov bills WOLOLOLOLOLOL). So, ya, the goondev tech conspiracy theory is so far out of whack that it stands above in a sea of ill-conceived tinfoil theories.

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