i lost a coercer to rogue drones in a scanned site.. oh woe was that a depressing day... lol

Agree with the OP

+1 like.

Dear OP.

Look in the current wars tab under corporation in alliance you don't like. Find a current war where the "null bear alliance" you do not like is the aggressor. Offer to help the defender as an ally. Well done free war against any "null bear alliance" .

As always it is very difficult to create a system that supports legal PvP in a one-size-fits-all manner, as people have different playstyles, needs and expectations. With the changes currently in the pipeline we do realize that wars become a bit more hardcore and harder to avoid. But the line that is being drawn in the sand here is that if youGÇÖre in a player run corporation, then war is something you must be prepared to tackle.
The ally system and the surrender with enforced peace do give options beside just duking it out (or docking for a week), but if you absolutely do not want to be war decced, then the only option right now is to be in a NPC corp. This is not an optimal solution and we might iterate here in the future, but this is the direction weGÇÖre taking right now.

"I can pay half of the working class to kill the other half"

I wish I could fly around null sec risk free. What skills do I need to train for that?

There is a great cry among the miner community due to the fact that they are being griefed and its encouraged from CCPGǪ

In the eyes of CCP miners have no right being in high sec and they should be forced to move to null sec Gǣwhere its supposed to be safe?GǥGǪ

But look how the CSM has manipulated their position when it comes to the war dec formulaGǪ

Apparently if you have more peeps in your corp/alliance it should be more expensive to war dec you!??!?!?

Yes you read that right! In the eyes of CCP large nullbears alliances should be aloud to roam free in highsec without having to worry about being killedGǪ

How can it on one hand be unfair to have cheep war dec costs because of the perception that it would be unfair to nullbears due to having high sec no longer be GǣsafeGǥGǪ when the same people say that miners should be targeted and harassed because they have no right to be safe in high sec?

Either fix the war dec formula so if people like goons and so on want to have a high sec campaign they should be persona non grataGǪ every high sec corp should be war decced with them and have it cost effectiveGǪ

Or if the csm is right and high sec should be reasonably safe then just increase the PG of the hulk so it can fit a LSE

Make harder hits for sec status for suicide ganks and make it so someone with negative sec status cant use an orca to reshipGǪ

Common CCP this hypocrisy is nauseating!

Given Sudden Buggery was, and this is confirmed, the first corp to lay out and accept an assist in a wardec, I can tell you, a 15 v 50 turned into a 15 v 450 pretty damn quickly once everyone realised you could join wars for free, as long as you were prepared to stick it out till the aggressor decided it was too much of a PITA.

The measurement of an alliance's success is its ability to take space and defend it. The alliance you are in, a faded shadow of its former self (which was a shadow of its former self as well, ~heh~), failed miserably at this when Insmother fell. On the other hand, when we faced an invasion, we promptly trapped the hostile supercaps in their staging towers and destroyed all of the progress they had made up until that point.

So please tell me more about "measures of success"

laff

~nullbears~

what the **** does that even mean

Look at this Nullbear talking like he's got some war stories to share. He hasn't ganked a high sec industrialist in over a year. Keep talking Darth Failbear. Take that stupid hood off or go back to Nerds of the Old Republic

I love suggesting "turn all of highsec into 0.0 so everyone will be supersafe like you say" in these whine threads because I get to watch the OP immediately slink away and abandon the thread every time.

Quit corp

Reimbursement programs only cover PvP losses and are meant to encourage members to reship and get back into fights rather than spending 4 hours ratting up ISK for a new ship; the assets (moons) used to fund reimbursement programs are generally gained through, well, PvP

hope this helps

But anyone could just kill you then.

Except those Providence people, I hear they don't shoot neutrals on sight...

GÇó Ally contracts have fixed length of two weeks
GÇó Allies can not be part of mutual wars GÇô defender cannot hire allies into mutual wars and existing ally contracts are cancelled (with a 24 hour grace period)
GÇó Cap on War Dec cost GÇô it will never have a base price of more than 500 mill regardless of corp/alliance membership (still affected by the number of wars you have declared)
GÇó New UI control for War options in war lists
GÇó Added cost for hiring multiple allies for a war GÇô hiring more than one ally now incur a cost that goes to CONCORD. The cost rises exponentially the more allies are hired into the same war.

hate to say i told you so... but

the results are the same its just the methods that have changed...