the plan is that we will be able to mingle with the dusters in stations... and have starwars type meetings to hire mecenaries face to face.

DUST is not EVE.

Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.

Walking in Stations has nothing to do with EVE.

Walking in Stations is a complete waste of time.

If you want to "roleplay" in EVE, then actually play your "role" as a pod pilot. If you were an immortal being would you actually do something silly that removed your immortal status, even temporarily? Like, say, leaving your pod? You think you're going to hang out with your immortal buddies and play table top games? In a universe where violence is quick and sudden (and quite permanent for a pod pilot outside his pod... no waking up in the clone vat... dead is DEAD). You are a god, act like one instead of a commoner who wants to play tabletop games in his CQ with buddies.

Also, just for clarification... Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.

DUST is not EVE.

Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.

Walking in Stations has nothing to do with EVE.

Walking in Stations is a complete waste of time.

If you want to "roleplay" in EVE, then actually play your "role" as a pod pilot. If you were an immortal being would you actually do something silly that removed your immortal status, even temporarily? Like, say, leaving your pod? You think you're going to hang out with your immortal buddies and play table top games? In a universe where violence is quick and sudden (and quite permanent for a pod pilot outside his pod... no waking up in the clone vat... dead is DEAD). You are a god, act like one instead of a commoner who wants to play tabletop games in his CQ with buddies.

Also, just for clarification... Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.

DUST is not EVE.

Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.

Walking in Stations has nothing to do with EVE.

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Also, just for clarification... Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.

DUST is not EVE.


Also, just for clarification... Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.

Sorry it's NOT against EVE lore.....at the very beginning all pilots were manevering their ships like the other mortals or call them nonpods until Jove brougth the Capsule technologie to the Caldaris.

Also There are things you need to do outside your pod without having continually logged your doings while beeing in the pod....like as you want to trade sensual goods ( the to implementing smuggling thingie ) and other stuff....

if you don#t want to get out of your pod you are free to stay there until the Universe esplodes.....on the other hand...Eve won't be a complete SciFi Simulation without WiS and CCP told since years they want Eve to be a complete SciFi SImulation so Avatars ( Bodies ) will have to get implemented, Like it or l-¦dislike it your choice....but CCP definitely will Complete this feature until they got it working.

I figure it's a plan to make even being docked in a station unsafe.

I thoroughly expect to be walking in my quarters when some Dust 514 troopers bust down the locked door and murder me.

I figure it's a plan to make even being docked in a station unsafe.

I thoroughly expect to be walking in my quarters when some Dust 514 troopers bust down the locked door and murder me.

What happened to nondisclosure?


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Can't you just give us a small room that us Roleplay people can just sit in, maybe 5 players max

The idea that you need graphical representations of your character in order to roleplay is hilariously patronising. You realise that roleplayers have been managing in the pre-WiS version of Eve that existed since 2003, right? You realise there are people who roleplay with nothing more than a handful of funny shaped dice and a pencil and paper, right?

If you are so unimaginative that you can't roleplay without 3D graphics of your character in an empty room with others, maybe roleplay isn't the pastime for you.

Also There are things you need to do outside your pod without having continually logged your doings while beeing in the pod....like as you want to trade sensual goods

Are you really saying video games don't need graphics to be fun? seriously?

DUST is not EVE.

Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.

Walking in Stations has nothing to do with EVE.

Walking in Stations is a complete waste of time.

If you want to "roleplay" in EVE, then actually play your "role" as a pod pilot. If you were an immortal being would you actually do something silly that removed your immortal status, even temporarily? Like, say, leaving your pod? You think you're going to hang out with your immortal buddies and play table top games? In a universe where violence is quick and sudden (and quite permanent for a pod pilot outside his pod... no waking up in the clone vat... dead is DEAD). You are a god, act like one instead of a commoner who wants to play tabletop games in his CQ with buddies.

Also, just for clarification... Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.

NDA breach.


Just saying....

1) WiS needs a lot of work that we _all_ protested about to stop so they could fix FiS
2) DUST graphics engine and back code is _not_ EVE graphics engine and back code
- One of the reasons we are getting lots of UI updates is not only to fix crap back also to allow easier merging of FiS with WiS (my view not blogged or anything)
3) WiS will take up more Resource we've only just taken back from the other projects, we'll get proper WiS once WoD is closer to completion (again my reading between the lines)

(Don't know the abreviations read some past posts - theres a search function now)

Overall, WiS is a nice to have not an essential, now go mine me some minerals biatch :P

Are we really still talking about space barbies a year later? If this stuff really means that much to you there is a game called Second Life you can give a try. Dress up your avatar up in fancy costumes and have someone spank you ass when your bad. No one cares about space barbies unless you can shoot people in the stations then it would make war docs cool.

nice to see people still using that out dated pod tec i mean,


dust mercs get a implant in there head that copy's there brain on death, if a dust guy can afford that then pod guys must of had it first.



there for i can get out of my pod walk to the nearest none immortal bar walk in blow my head off and wake up in a new clone.


and go lolololololololololololol because i just scared thos people for the rest of there lives.

ok i get it eve was going to be ftp hence wis but then we all emoed about wis so they scrapped wis... now they use it for dust... poor us i would have liked to play eve for free...

Here's your problem OP.

People who are afraid of change and seem to think that thier vision of EVE is the correct vision of EVE.

CCP had a vision of EVE that went beyond just FiS and for some reason, instead of HTFU they backed off to people who demanded that EVE never evolve beyond anything other then just FiS, even though it would greatly benefit the game.

Every time I see people talking about sandboxes I see the same thing. EVE is the best sandbox on the market, but I dont' want to be a spaceship. Instead it feels like people like the guy I quoted have won out and convinced CCP that the magority of players don't want EVE to be anything more then it already is.

At the same time I don't want what you asked for either. I want WiS, not some cut down, feature lite ability to wallk around and not do anything but play a single game.

I want to own space outside of CQ.
I want to run a bar.
I want to run a night club.
I want to run a gambling hall.
I want to hack the station of another corp for valuable information.
I want to sell sell drugs.
I want to shoot another player in the back while he's watching an exotic dancer becaue I'm at war with his corp.
I want to get missions from shady individuals or pirate corp contacts on the station, face to face.
I want to board a Gallente station and set of a bomb in faction warfare.
I want to smuggle things on the station.
I want to be able to live my entire life on a station, not as a pod pilot.
I want to pay another player to shuttle me to another station because I'm not a pod pilot and can't actually fly a ship myself.
I want to start a taxi service flying players between stations because they're not a pod pilot and can't fly any ships.

I want EVE to evolve beyond FiS and become the sandbox MMO that no other company can ever compare to. I want to fire up the launcher and see 100k players online at once, and that's not likely to happen if EVE never evolves beyond FiS.


Stick to YOUR vision CCP, and not the vision of a group of people who can't see outside of the box, let alone beyond their own narrow little world.

Nah. Dust has about as much walking as EVE does.

Most of Dust is running around with your hair on fire. Speed-tanking ftw.

We have SPACESHIPS. Why in all of New Eden do you want to walk?

Here's your problem OP.

People who are afraid of change and seem to think that thier vision of EVE is the correct vision of EVE.

CCP had a vision of EVE that went beyond just FiS and for some reason, instead of HTFU they backed off to people who demanded that EVE never evolve beyond anything other then just FiS, even though it would greatly benefit the game.

Every time I see people talking about sandboxes I see the same thing. EVE is the best sandbox on the market, but I dont' want to be a spaceship. Instead it feels like people like the guy I quoted have won out and convinced CCP that the magority of players don't want EVE to be anything more then it already is.

At the same time I don't want what you asked for either. I want WiS, not some cut down, feature lite ability to wallk around and not do anything but play a single game.

I want to own space outside of CQ.
I want to run a bar.
I want to run a night club.
I want to run a gambling hall.
I want to hack the station of another corp for valuable information.
I want to sell sell drugs.
I want to shoot another player in the back while he's watching an exotic dancer becaue I'm at war with his corp.
I want to get missions from shady individuals or pirate corp contacts on the station, face to face.
I want to board a Gallente station and set of a bomb in faction warfare.
I want to smuggle things on the station.
I want to be able to live my entire life on a station, not as a pod pilot.
I want to pay another player to shuttle me to another station because I'm not a pod pilot and can't actually fly a ship myself.
I want to start a taxi service flying players between stations because they're not a pod pilot and can't fly any ships.

I want EVE to evolve beyond FiS and become the sandbox MMO that no other company can ever compare to. I want to fire up the launcher and see 100k players online at once, and that's not likely to happen if EVE never evolves beyond FiS.


Stick to YOUR vision CCP, and not the vision of a group of people who can't see outside of the box, let alone beyond their own narrow little world.

so you'd be ok with In space combat without a graphical representation of spaceships and space? Because trust me me and my friends can role play a space ship Pen and paper game without playing eve. Eve could be a text based games with just the overview and the solar system map.

Are you really saying video games don't need graphics to be fun? seriously?

ok next time you feel like playing eve just sit in bed, close your eyes, and use your imagination!

If you are so unimaginative that you can't roleplay without 3D graphics of your space ship in spce with others, maybe roleplay isn't the pastime for you.

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CCP, this is getting silly. I recently jumped into the new-----Edit------NDA Violation-----|ISD Tyrozan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n41s1Iox18A

This **** was finished 3 years ago. Can't you just give us a small room that us Roleplay people can just sit in, maybe 5 players max, and play it? I mean hell even just stick Slay into CQ and let us join other players in their CQ. I don't care anymore. It's been 3 years waiting for you to come out with WiS.

The work is done isn't it? And I'm not mad or anything, just... confused. CCP has never really laid down what happen. How we went from a fully working demo, which i got the chance to play at fanfest 3 years ago, to the worst expansion of all time. -----Edit-----Sentence removed as NDA violation.

Whatever, point is, can't you guys at CCP throw us a bone? Give us a little update on what happen in the last 3 years? Why it released so puny, why you can't get two people in the same room? What the plan is moving forward? Fanfest had nothing to say about WiS.

I think the 1st dev blog about WiS was 5 years ago. I love eve, and I do enjoy getting into it once in a while. But waiting for WiS has always got me logging off. I know that sounds crazy, but I played it at fanfest and the potenal was staggering. All i ask for is a break down of what happen, and where we go from here. It just.. feel like all of the work for WiS must allready be done and your just sitting on it. Which is fine but I'd like to hear why it's not out yet from CCP, and not from countless rumors on the forums.

Was it really that you held it all back to release NeX? if so that feature is the devil.

BUSTED

Nice... NDA violation... great way to lose yer account lol

Too bad nothing of what he said was covered by the NDA.

I think they disagree

Hence the removed posts

BUSTED

Nice... NDA violation... great way to lose yer account lol

So Dust players get what we should have gotten with Incarna? Figures.

Adding another voice to WIS support.

I would have been happier if CCP just used Unreal Engine 4 and get content out quickly,

YUP, and it's out now, finally. but only if you own a PS3.

Yeah, that's fair, we pay to play EVE and PS3 players play for free and they get WiS. Nice CCP.

DUST is not EVE.

Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.

Walking in Stations has nothing to do with EVE.

Walking in Stations is a complete waste of time.

If you want to "roleplay" in EVE, then actually play your "role" as a pod pilot. If you were an immortal being would you actually do something silly that removed your immortal status, even temporarily? Like, say, leaving your pod? You think you're going to hang out with your immortal buddies and play table top games? In a universe where violence is quick and sudden (and quite permanent for a pod pilot outside his pod... no waking up in the clone vat... dead is DEAD). You are a god, act like one instead of a commoner who wants to play tabletop games in his CQ with buddies.

Also, just for clarification... Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.

I think that neither the person reporting the post, nor the ISD, has read the Dust EULA or seen Dust in person (to say nothing of the public source of the OP's information).

Hence the silly mistake.

WiS stations better be released F2P on PC. But what do i know, maybe if CCP actually laid out the roadmap we wouldn't have to sit around trying to figure out whats going on.

So then shouldnt the NDA redacted stuff be unredacted?

As its not, still doesnt look like they agree

Whats sad is they mimicked EvE Avatars really well on the PSN home room. They may not be all flowy with fabric spreading and free moving hair meshes. Yet they looked like EvE avatars.

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God damnit? Seriously, they get this cool ****? All we got was a freaking closet to walk around in?

Here's your problem OP.

People who are afraid of change and seem to think that thier vision of EVE is the correct vision of EVE.

CCP had a vision of EVE that went beyond just FiS and for some reason, instead of HTFU they backed off to people who demanded that EVE never evolve beyond anything other then just FiS, even though it would greatly benefit the game.

Every time I see people talking about sandboxes I see the same thing. EVE is the best sandbox on the market, but I dont' want to be a spaceship. Instead it feels like people like the guy I quoted have won out and convinced CCP that the magority of players don't want EVE to be anything more then it already is.

At the same time I don't want what you asked for either. I want WiS, not some cut down, feature lite ability to wallk around and not do anything but play a single game.

I want to own space outside of CQ.
I want to run a bar.
I want to run a night club.
I want to run a gambling hall.
I want to hack the station of another corp for valuable information.
I want to sell sell drugs.
I want to shoot another player in the back while he's watching an exotic dancer becaue I'm at war with his corp.
I want to get missions from shady individuals or pirate corp contacts on the station, face to face.
I want to board a Gallente station and set of a bomb in faction warfare.
I want to smuggle things on the station.
I want to be able to live my entire life on a station, not as a pod pilot.
I want to pay another player to shuttle me to another station because I'm not a pod pilot and can't actually fly a ship myself.
I want to start a taxi service flying players between stations because they're not a pod pilot and can't fly any ships.

I want EVE to evolve beyond FiS and become the sandbox MMO that no other company can ever compare to. I want to fire up the launcher and see 100k players online at once, and that's not likely to happen if EVE never evolves beyond FiS.


Stick to YOUR vision CCP, and not the vision of a group of people who can't see outside of the box, let alone beyond their own narrow little world.

yes i agree with that ideally but wis must be meaningful not 5 dudes in a room emoting each other
but what is meaning wis? that's for team avatar/CCP to figure out, which is in progress, it may be years but it is just going to take as long as it takes. it must be done right.

I'd prefer if they launched it as a broken mess in it's entirety, at least then they would feel some compunction to do something. Something of substance with WiS, not infinite inventory iterations, what's next honestly? Redoing jet can mechanics for the winter expansion? It feels like they're content to let EVE stagnate as the reiterate the most inconsequential parts of it.

I figure it's a plan to make even being docked in a station unsafe.

I thoroughly expect to be walking in my quarters when some Dust 514 troopers bust down the locked door and murder me.

It's pretty simple. Avatar minigames and minor avatar gameplay elements didn't make sense in the EVE Universe but fit in perfectly with DUST 514, which is all about avatar gameplay so they moved everything to DUST 514. Then some really, really bad CCP member came up with Carbon and started developing it while knowing it could never be used in a large scale MMORPG like EVE. Carbon turned into Incarna which was universally hated and subscriptions took a massive dive until CCP started to refocus on non-WIS gameplay.

Carbon turned into Incarna which was universally hated and subscriptions took a massive dive until CCP started to refocus on non-WIS gameplay.

If WiS had be released, and it wasn't ****, it would not of had people protesting.

Here's your problem OP.

People who are afraid of change and seem to think that thier vision of EVE is the correct vision of EVE.

CCP had a vision of EVE that went beyond just FiS and for some reason, instead of HTFU they backed off to people who demanded that EVE never evolve beyond anything other then just FiS, even though it would greatly benefit the game.

Every time I see people talking about sandboxes I see the same thing. EVE is the best sandbox on the market, but I dont' want to be a spaceship. Instead it feels like people like the guy I quoted have won out and convinced CCP that the magority of players don't want EVE to be anything more then it already is.

At the same time I don't want what you asked for either. I want WiS, not some cut down, feature lite ability to wallk around and not do anything but play a single game.

I want to own space outside of CQ.
I want to run a bar.
I want to run a night club.
I want to run a gambling hall.
I want to hack the station of another corp for valuable information.
I want to sell sell drugs.
I want to shoot another player in the back while he's watching an exotic dancer becaue I'm at war with his corp.
I want to get missions from shady individuals or pirate corp contacts on the station, face to face.
I want to board a Gallente station and set of a bomb in faction warfare.
I want to smuggle things on the station.
I want to be able to live my entire life on a station, not as a pod pilot.
I want to pay another player to shuttle me to another station because I'm not a pod pilot and can't actually fly a ship myself.
I want to start a taxi service flying players between stations because they're not a pod pilot and can't fly any ships.

I want EVE to evolve beyond FiS and become the sandbox MMO that no other company can ever compare to. I want to fire up the launcher and see 100k players online at once, and that's not likely to happen if EVE never evolves beyond FiS.


Stick to YOUR vision CCP, and not the vision of a group of people who can't see outside of the box, let alone beyond their own narrow little world.

more than that, every single new trailer has pod pilots walking around....

DUST is not EVE.

Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.

Walking in Stations has nothing to do with EVE.

Walking in Stations is a complete waste of time.

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Also, just for clarification... Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.

DUST is not EVE.

Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.

Walking in Stations has nothing to do with EVE.

Walking in Stations is a complete waste of time.

If you want to "roleplay" in EVE, then actually play your "role" as a pod pilot. If you were an immortal being would you actually do something silly that removed your immortal status, even temporarily? Like, say, leaving your pod? You think you're going to hang out with your immortal buddies and play table top games? In a universe where violence is quick and sudden (and quite permanent for a pod pilot outside his pod... no waking up in the clone vat... dead is DEAD). You are a god, act like one instead of a commoner who wants to play tabletop games in his CQ with buddies.

Also, just for clarification... Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.

Posting video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52FYhyla9EA

Looking at the latest trailers from CCP I can say that this is not the case anymore.
CCP is clearly stating that this is the direction they want to go. Their vision for Eve Online.

I like walking in stations and so do hundreds of other players.

ccp can't even get these latest "releases" right. My question is why a confused little boy using a female avatar would want something like 'dust'?

this is you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoMMmZ6CFO0

oh snap, that was a pretty witty remark. you must be some kind of pro troll. how will I ever deal with a shut in who insults people over the internet

Just post what your hoping to get out of a imvu like environment. You wanna watch your pixie azz getting hit on by other confused little boys?

If required, I'd prefer to insult them to their face...

I want to be a pilot, playing a video game where my ships are just toys i don't care if they get blown up.
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well I want to be able to hire dust mercs to burst down peoples doors while they make a deal over some illegal goods and shoot them in the face.

I want to undock to explore asteroid dungeons, and if my ship is destroyed outside, while I'm inside I want the only way home to be through the barrel of my my own gun.

I want to meet the dust mercs face to face, and play a game of texas hold'em to determine if they get my services, or if I'll be bombarding them from orbit. Make them pay me either way.

I want to look out the window to check up on the station camp outside.

I want to be a pilot, playing a video game where my ships are just toys i don't care if they get blown up.

I want to endlessly troll people by blocking them into corners.

I want to watch dust 514 matches on a big screen *already promised feature* and bet with other people over who will win, even if the people on the ground don't know we are watching, and covertly call in backup from space to turn the tide when my bet is going south.

I want to play arcade cabinets, bust skulls in bar fights.

I want to meet people in person who check out our local corp recruitment area, convincing people to join through somethign other than a right click menu full of spreadsheets.



See! you want WiS too!

The concept of 'change' or 'progress' must confuse and infuriate you immensely.
Wanna sit over here by the atrium?
Maybe start a conversation?
Share a story perhaps?
Like why you so mad?

nah, At a bar terminal, Loadout a Dust fit several mil heavy drone tank or fighter in an arena match and fight other players drones in a battlebots like competition that can be bet on by dusters and capsulars.
While in another part of the bar people are betting and watching Dusters kill each other in a Slayer type gladiatorial arena match.

Most people embrace GOOD change
Parasites embrace BAD change

dust is the same concept as imvu. Besides ccp already broke the ui, so their capabilities seem to be VERY limited, and if they continue to TRY and POLISH this broken ui with a year-long of so-called "updates", instead of just rolling back to the one that WORKED, then any real improvement is way beyond what they can do.

well I want to be able to hire dust mercs to burst down peoples doors while they make a deal over some illegal goods and shoot them in the face.

I want to undock to explore asteroid dungeons, and if my ship is destroyed outside, while I'm inside I want the only way home to be through the barrel of my my own gun.

I want to meet the dust mercs face to face, and play a game of texas hold'em to determine if they get my services, or if I'll be bombarding them from orbit. Make them pay me either way.

I want to look out the window to check up on the station camp outside.

etc etc

SO.... YOU JUST SAID... that imvu... Is the same as GTA...

Boy what you smoking

DUST is not EVE.

Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.

Walking in Stations has nothing to do with EVE.

Walking in Stations is a complete waste of time.

If you want to "roleplay" in EVE, then actually play your "role" as a pod pilot. If you were an immortal being would you actually do something silly that removed your immortal status, even temporarily? Like, say, leaving your pod? You think you're going to hang out with your immortal buddies and play table top games? In a universe where violence is quick and sudden (and quite permanent for a pod pilot outside his pod... no waking up in the clone vat... dead is DEAD). You are a god, act like one instead of a commoner who wants to play tabletop games in his CQ with buddies.

Also, just for clarification... Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.

Here's your problem OP.

People who are afraid of change and seem to think that thier vision of EVE is the correct vision of EVE.

CCP had a vision of EVE that went beyond just FiS and for some reason, instead of HTFU they backed off to people who demanded that EVE never evolve beyond anything other then just FiS, even though it would greatly benefit the game.

Every time I see people talking about sandboxes I see the same thing. EVE is the best sandbox on the market, but I dont' want to be a spaceship. Instead it feels like people like the guy I quoted have won out and convinced CCP that the magority of players don't want EVE to be anything more then it already is.

At the same time I don't want what you asked for either. I want WiS, not some cut down, feature lite ability to wallk around and not do anything but play a single game.

I want to own space outside of CQ.
I want to run a bar.
I want to run a night club.
I want to run a gambling hall.
I want to hack the station of another corp for valuable information.
I want to sell sell drugs.
I want to shoot another player in the back while he's watching an exotic dancer becaue I'm at war with his corp.
I want to get missions from shady individuals or pirate corp contacts on the station, face to face.
I want to board a Gallente station and set of a bomb in faction warfare.
I want to smuggle things on the station.
I want to be able to live my entire life on a station, not as a pod pilot.
I want to pay another player to shuttle me to another station because I'm not a pod pilot and can't actually fly a ship myself.
I want to start a taxi service flying players between stations because they're not a pod pilot and can't fly any ships.

I want EVE to evolve beyond FiS and become the sandbox MMO that no other company can ever compare to. I want to fire up the launcher and see 100k players online at once, and that's not likely to happen if EVE never evolves beyond FiS.


Stick to YOUR vision CCP, and not the vision of a group of people who can't see outside of the box, let alone beyond their own narrow little world.

Oh? so you want ONE game that include 3 or more other games? EvE-IMVU-GTA? Let's throw BF in there too. You wanna role-play with other confused little boys then play imvu, if you wanna ride around in a car and knock off old ladies then play gta.
ccp can't even update ONE game without breaking it, please don't ask them to fit all your favorites games into a SPACE game

Here's your problem OP.

People who are afraid of change and seem to think that thier vision of EVE is the correct vision of EVE.

CCP had a vision of EVE that went beyond just FiS and for some reason, instead of HTFU they backed off to people who demanded that EVE never evolve beyond anything other then just FiS, even though it would greatly benefit the game.

Every time I see people talking about sandboxes I see the same thing. EVE is the best sandbox on the market, but I dont' want to be a spaceship. Instead it feels like people like the guy I quoted have won out and convinced CCP that the magority of players don't want EVE to be anything more then it already is.

At the same time I don't want what you asked for either. I want WiS, not some cut down, feature lite ability to wallk around and not do anything but play a single game.

I want to own space outside of CQ.
I want to run a bar.
I want to run a night club.
I want to run a gambling hall.
I want to hack the station of another corp for valuable information.
I want to sell sell drugs.
I want to shoot another player in the back while he's watching an exotic dancer becaue I'm at war with his corp.
I want to get missions from shady individuals or pirate corp contacts on the station, face to face.
I want to board a Gallente station and set of a bomb in faction warfare.
I want to smuggle things on the station.
I want to be able to live my entire life on a station, not as a pod pilot.
I want to pay another player to shuttle me to another station because I'm not a pod pilot and can't actually fly a ship myself.
I want to start a taxi service flying players between stations because they're not a pod pilot and can't fly any ships.

I want EVE to evolve beyond FiS and become the sandbox MMO that no other company can ever compare to. I want to fire up the launcher and see 100k players online at once, and that's not likely to happen if EVE never evolves beyond FiS.


Stick to YOUR vision CCP, and not the vision of a group of people who can't see outside of the box, let alone beyond their own narrow little world.

Here's your problem OP.

People who are afraid of change and seem to think that thier vision of EVE is the correct vision of EVE.

CCP had a vision of EVE that went beyond just FiS and for some reason, instead of HTFU they backed off to people who demanded that EVE never evolve beyond anything other then just FiS, even though it would greatly benefit the game.

Every time I see people talking about sandboxes I see the same thing. EVE is the best sandbox on the market, but I dont' want to be a spaceship. Instead it feels like people like the guy I quoted have won out and convinced CCP that the magority of players don't want EVE to be anything more then it already is.

At the same time I don't want what you asked for either. I want WiS, not some cut down, feature lite ability to wallk around and not do anything but play a single game.

I want to own space outside of CQ.
I want to run a bar.
I want to run a night club.
I want to run a gambling hall.
I want to hack the station of another corp for valuable information.
I want to sell sell drugs.
I want to shoot another player in the back while he's watching an exotic dancer becaue I'm at war with his corp.
I want to get missions from shady individuals or pirate corp contacts on the station, face to face.
I want to board a Gallente station and set of a bomb in faction warfare.
I want to smuggle things on the station.
I want to be able to live my entire life on a station, not as a pod pilot.
I want to pay another player to shuttle me to another station because I'm not a pod pilot and can't actually fly a ship myself.
I want to start a taxi service flying players between stations because they're not a pod pilot and can't fly any ships.

I want EVE to evolve beyond FiS and become the sandbox MMO that no other company can ever compare to. I want to fire up the launcher and see 100k players online at once, and that's not likely to happen if EVE never evolves beyond FiS.


Stick to YOUR vision CCP, and not the vision of a group of people who can't see outside of the box, let alone beyond their own narrow little world.

I can't believe I'm about to agree with a Goon but...+1...no, +3490857398, this. Now. Eff the PvPtard elitists. This. THIS.

...what's next honestly? Redoing jet can mechanics for the winter expansion? It feels like they're content to let EVE stagnate as the reiterate the most inconsequential parts of it.