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Dianabolic	Posted - 2004.10.25 17:30:00 - [1] Personally I have no interest in Delve and the surrounding region, though I spent a lot of time in that region in the past it was quite heartening to see CFS, perhaps the most idealistic of alliances, finally standing up for themselves. Unfortunately it would seem that you have failed to build any blood ties to those you have shared these ideals with. To those that have abandoned their friends could you all please make a nice list just here, so that the rest of us know what gutless turncoats you are. Thanks.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2004.10.25 17:30:00 - [2] Personally I have no interest in Delve and the surrounding region, though I spent a lot of time in that region in the past it was quite heartening to see CFS, perhaps the most idealistic of alliances, finally standing up for themselves. Unfortunately it would seem that you have failed to build any blood ties to those you have shared these ideals with. To those that have abandoned their friends could you all please make a nice list just here, so that the rest of us know what gutless turncoats you are. Thanks.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2004.10.25 17:41:00 - [3] Edited by: Dianabolic on 27/10/2004 16:18:49 Just to get things going: Quasar Technologies Chin Dynastie Softice Mithril Masters Security Corp Any more? edit: To removed Black Riders, because I didn't read the post properly, my apologies to them.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2004.10.25 17:41:00 - [4] Edited by: Dianabolic on 27/10/2004 16:18:49 Just to get things going: Quasar Technologies Chin Dynastie Softice Mithril Masters Security Corp Any more? edit: To removed Black Riders, because I didn't read the post properly, my apologies to them.
Jorev	Posted - 2004.10.25 19:22:00 - [5] These corps sold their souls for the promise of crokite and Blood Raider farming, with an option of shooting Serpentis at 5m/day. A bit cheap IMO. If you at least were offered FA membership...but your honor for this?
Jorev	Posted - 2004.10.25 19:22:00 - [6] These corps sold their souls for the promise of crokite and Blood Raider farming, with an option of shooting Serpentis at 5m/day. A bit cheap IMO. If you at least were offered FA membership...but your honor for this?
FIRST GENERAL	Posted - 2004.10.25 20:30:00 - [7] We did not leave our friends in this war. We were left. The corporations you mention fought for the cause, and actually did well. It was the poor display of an "Alliance" that made us leave it.
FIRST GENERAL	Posted - 2004.10.25 20:30:00 - [8] We did not leave our friends in this war. We were left. The corporations you mention fought for the cause, and actually did well. It was the poor display of an "Alliance" that made us leave it.
Loka	Posted - 2004.10.25 21:22:00 - [9] dont tell anything bad about this corps. Iam sure it was hard for them to make this step. They fought marvelous and with great honor on my side. I wish them best luck. I still hold them as friends. But sometimes you have to decide whats best for your corp not what you wish to do. Thats the problems CEOs deailing with. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
Loka	Posted - 2004.10.25 21:22:00 - [10] dont tell anything bad about this corps. Iam sure it was hard for them to make this step. They fought marvelous and with great honor on my side. I wish them best luck. I still hold them as friends. But sometimes you have to decide whats best for your corp not what you wish to do. Thats the problems CEOs deailing with. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive

Dianabolic	Posted - 2004.10.25 21:48:00 - [11] Originally by: FIRST GENERAL We did not leave our friends in this war. We were left. The corporations you mention fought for the cause, and actually did well. It was the poor display of an "Alliance" that made us leave it. When things are going badly you fix what is wrong, not run away and abandon everything. If these corps, to which Stardust Heavy Industries is now added, really were the "backbone" of the same alliance that decided to fight to remove FA control from their stations then, erm, they should of got together and done something about it, got rid of the deadwood and been thankful for the opportunity to do so. You have failed yourselves.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2004.10.25 21:48:00 - [12] Originally by: FIRST GENERAL We did not leave our friends in this war. We were left. The corporations you mention fought for the cause, and actually did well. It was the poor display of an "Alliance" that made us leave it. When things are going badly you fix what is wrong, not run away and abandon everything. If these corps, to which Stardust Heavy Industries is now added, really were the "backbone" of the same alliance that decided to fight to remove FA control from their stations then, erm, they should of got together and done something about it, got rid of the deadwood and been thankful for the opportunity to do so. You have failed yourselves.
Marnarok	Posted - 2004.10.25 22:32:00 - [13] We hold you as friends too Loka. Dianabolic: never saw you before so crawl from the hole you are to Delve and lets see how many time can you survive there. Marna Out
Marnarok	Posted - 2004.10.25 22:32:00 - [14] We hold you as friends too Loka. Dianabolic: never saw you before so crawl from the hole you are to Delve and lets see how many time can you survive there. Marna Out
Dianabolic	Posted - 2004.10.25 22:42:00 - [15] Originally by: Marnarok We hold you as friends too Loka. Dianabolic: never saw you before so crawl from the hole you are to Delve and lets see how many time can you survive there. Marna Out Re-read the post, then check my corp ticker, then look at my employment history. Thanks.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2004.10.25 22:42:00 - [16] Originally by: Marnarok We hold you as friends too Loka. Dianabolic: never saw you before so crawl from the hole you are to Delve and lets see how many time can you survive there. Marna Out Re-read the post, then check my corp ticker, then look at my employment history. Thanks.
Lallante	Posted - 2004.10.25 23:49:00 - [17] TPS are nothing special. Nor are you. Move along. Some of these corps are scum. Others went to the edge, only to have the steps pulled out from beneath them by so called 'allies'. Some of the corps listed there are the 'best' CFS/StA/DSMA corps. Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
Lallante	Posted - 2004.10.25 23:49:00 - [18] TPS are nothing special. Nor are you. Move along. Some of these corps are scum. Others went to the edge, only to have the steps pulled out from beneath them by so called 'allies'. Some of the corps listed there are the 'best' CFS/StA/DSMA corps. Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2004.10.26 00:48:00 - [19] They still pulled back from the flames, when it got hot. Plung into the flames, and become tempered when you emerge on the far side... My personal views are violently anti-Fountain, from experience within their space (under valid passes) of how little control they have over pirate entities, and their greed. I'm not really pro-CFS either, mind you. Disunity and squabbling don't breed an alliance. "As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade"
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2004.10.26 00:48:00 - [20] They still pulled back from the flames, when it got hot. Plung into the flames, and become tempered when you emerge on the far side... My personal views are violently anti-Fountain, from experience within their space (under valid passes) of how little control they have over pirate entities, and their greed. I'm not really pro-CFS either, mind you. Disunity and squabbling don't breed an alliance. "As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade"

Pa1nbringr	Posted - 2004.10.26 01:59:00 - [21] Originally by: Marnarok We hold you as friends too Loka. Dianabolic: never saw you before so crawl from the hole you are to Delve and lets see how many time can you survive there. Marna Out lol you noob, me and dianabolic may be enemies, but hes one of my few i got alot of respect for and i know for a fact if you can live in the tribute/obe area then you can definately survive delve easily, we're in the ghetto of the universe it gets no worse then here, and dianabolic good post i was waiting for someone to say something like this ---------------------- Fedaykin Naib > eh this is boring, think im going to go choke one out Pa1nbringr > sick Fedaykin Naib > lol
Pa1nbringr	Posted - 2004.10.26 01:59:00 - [22] Originally by: Marnarok We hold you as friends too Loka. Dianabolic: never saw you before so crawl from the hole you are to Delve and lets see how many time can you survive there. Marna Out lol you noob, me and dianabolic may be enemies, but hes one of my few i got alot of respect for and i know for a fact if you can live in the tribute/obe area then you can definately survive delve easily, we're in the ghetto of the universe it gets no worse then here, and dianabolic good post i was waiting for someone to say something like this ---------------------- Fedaykin Naib > eh this is boring, think im going to go choke one out Pa1nbringr > sick Fedaykin Naib > lol
Marnarok	Posted - 2004.10.26 03:54:00 - [23] Originally by: Pa1nbringr Originally by: Marnarok We hold you as friends too Loka. Dianabolic: never saw you before so crawl from the hole you are to Delve and lets see how many time can you survive there. Marna Out lol you noob, me and dianabolic may be enemies, but hes one of my few i got alot of respect for and i know for a fact if you can live in the tribute/obe area then you can definately survive delve easily, we're in the ghetto of the universe it gets no worse then here, and dianabolic good post i was waiting for someone to say something like this May i be impresed?
Marnarok	Posted - 2004.10.26 03:54:00 - [24] Originally by: Pa1nbringr Originally by: Marnarok We hold you as friends too Loka. Dianabolic: never saw you before so crawl from the hole you are to Delve and lets see how many time can you survive there. Marna Out lol you noob, me and dianabolic may be enemies, but hes one of my few i got alot of respect for and i know for a fact if you can live in the tribute/obe area then you can definately survive delve easily, we're in the ghetto of the universe it gets no worse then here, and dianabolic good post i was waiting for someone to say something like this May i be impresed?
Marnarok	Posted - 2004.10.26 03:58:00 - [25] Originally by: Dianabolic Re-read the post, then check my corp ticker, then look at my employment history. Thanks. Diferent times, diferent circunstances.
Marnarok	Posted - 2004.10.26 03:58:00 - [26] Originally by: Dianabolic Re-read the post, then check my corp ticker, then look at my employment history. Thanks. Diferent times, diferent circunstances.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2004.10.26 09:42:00 - [27] Originally by: Lallante Some of the corps listed there are the 'best' CFS/StA/DSMA corps. Can't see it, I'm afraid, there are a LOT of corps in this ever growing list, now including The Disinherited - why couldn't THEY get together? Perhaps you should talk to your alliance members that know who TPS are and how we operate before you spout off. Marnarok - My post was aimed at how the various factions with CFS / Sta have just abandoned each other. My personal view is one that would like to see CFS able to stand up for itself, to actually be all that it can be, it is a real shame that they cannot. Now if those corps listed here are, as Lallante says, the best Sta have to offer then that adds up to at least a couple of hundred paper players, I'd guess that means at least 20 active between them. You can do an awful lot with 20 active players.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2004.10.26 09:42:00 - [28] Originally by: Lallante Some of the corps listed there are the 'best' CFS/StA/DSMA corps. Can't see it, I'm afraid, there are a LOT of corps in this ever growing list, now including The Disinherited - why couldn't THEY get together? Perhaps you should talk to your alliance members that know who TPS are and how we operate before you spout off. Marnarok - My post was aimed at how the various factions with CFS / Sta have just abandoned each other. My personal view is one that would like to see CFS able to stand up for itself, to actually be all that it can be, it is a real shame that they cannot. Now if those corps listed here are, as Lallante says, the best Sta have to offer then that adds up to at least a couple of hundred paper players, I'd guess that means at least 20 active between them. You can do an awful lot with 20 active players.
Mindlles	Posted - 2004.10.26 11:03:00 - [29] Edited by: Mindlles on 26/10/2004 11:07:30
Mindlles	Posted - 2004.10.26 11:03:00 - [30] Edited by: Mindlles on 26/10/2004 11:07:30

Thomas Epsilon	Posted - 2004.10.26 12:49:00 - [31] Not to sound all that negative, but I think this war shows what corps are truly loyal and committed to make CFS a success.
Thomas Epsilon	Posted - 2004.10.26 12:49:00 - [32] Not to sound all that negative, but I think this war shows what corps are truly loyal and committed to make CFS a success.
Detaitiv	Posted - 2004.10.26 15:06:00 - [33] The corporations we see making peace with us are the ones that fought in game. The corporations still at war with us are the ones that fight on the boards. With few exceptions. I understand that CA & Co is unable to make the distinction.
Detaitiv	Posted - 2004.10.26 15:06:00 - [34] The corporations we see making peace with us are the ones that fought in game. The corporations still at war with us are the ones that fight on the boards. With few exceptions. I understand that CA & Co is unable to make the distinction.
darth solo	Posted - 2004.10.26 15:34:00 - [35] Dianabolic, i know ya dont really like me, but i think me and u have some things in common, "SPINES"... this is just a game, but i would stick by ma buddies untill i had no ships left, then id ram them in ma pod.. Seems to me, that this isnt the case for many... An example would be fighing with friends, then to leave, and join ur enemy, that stuff stinks.. PPL just need to grow some and take the fight to their enemy no matter what the outcome.. leaving when the sh1t hits the fan is way low. d solo.
darth solo	Posted - 2004.10.26 15:34:00 - [36] Dianabolic, i know ya dont really like me, but i think me and u have some things in common, "SPINES"... this is just a game, but i would stick by ma buddies untill i had no ships left, then id ram them in ma pod.. Seems to me, that this isnt the case for many... An example would be fighing with friends, then to leave, and join ur enemy, that stuff stinks.. PPL just need to grow some and take the fight to their enemy no matter what the outcome.. leaving when the sh1t hits the fan is way low. d solo.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2004.10.26 16:03:00 - [37] Originally by: darth solo ..but i think me and u have some things in common, "SPINES"... this is just a game, but i would stick by ma buddies untill i had no ships left, then id ram them in ma pod.. Damn right, Darth, damn right.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2004.10.26 16:03:00 - [38] Originally by: darth solo ..but i think me and u have some things in common, "SPINES"... this is just a game, but i would stick by ma buddies untill i had no ships left, then id ram them in ma pod.. Damn right, Darth, damn right.
babyblue	Posted - 2004.10.26 16:50:00 - [39] Originally by: Detaitiv The corporations we see making peace with us are the ones that fought in game. The corporations still at war with us are the ones that fight on the boards. With few exceptions. I understand that CA & Co is unable to make the distinction. You do talk *****s sometimes (I'm giving you a compliment, otherwise I'd have said always). You come onto the boards making broad sweeping statements with absolutely no evidence to back them up. I should rephrase what you said to make it more correct: Quote:** Some of the corporations that fought in game have made peace. Some of the corporations that fought in game are still at war. Some of both sets of corporations whether they fought or not are posting on the boards."
babyblue	Posted - 2004.10.26 16:50:00 - [40] Originally by: Detaitiv The corporations we see making peace with us are the ones that fought in game. The corporations still at war with us are the ones that fight on the boards. With few exceptions. I understand that CA & Co is unable to make the distinction. You do talk *****s sometimes (I'm giving you a compliment, otherwise I'd have said always). You come onto the boards making broad sweeping statements with absolutely no evidence to back them up. I should rephrase what you said to make it more correct: Quote:** Some of the corporations that fought in game have made peace. Some of the corporations that fought in game are still at war. Some of both sets of corporations whether they fought or not are posting on the boards."

Blockoindi	Posted - 2004.10.26 18:17:00 - [41] Originally by: darth solo Dianabolic, i know ya dont really like me, but i think me and u have some things in common, "SPINES"... this is just a game, but i would stick by ma buddies untill i had no ships left, then id ram them in ma pod.. Seems to me, that this isnt the case for many... An example would be fighing with friends, then to leave, and join ur enemy, that stuff stinks.. PPL just need to grow some and take the fight to their enemy no matter what the outcome.. leaving when the sh1t hits the fan is way low. d solo. omg omg omg, im agreeing with Darth here, but, u are right on the money. Standing fast in the face of adversity its what makes people strong. to the insignificant lallante, whats your beef? in a randomly cussing people mood?
Blockoindi	Posted - 2004.10.26 18:17:00 - [42] Originally by: darth solo Dianabolic, i know ya dont really like me, but i think me and u have some things in common, "SPINES"... this is just a game, but i would stick by ma buddies untill i had no ships left, then id ram them in ma pod.. Seems to me, that this isnt the case for many... An example would be fighing with friends, then to leave, and join ur enemy, that stuff stinks.. PPL just need to grow some and take the fight to their enemy no matter what the outcome.. leaving when the sh1t hits the fan is way low. d solo. omg omg omg, im agreeing with Darth here, but, u are right on the money. Standing fast in the face of adversity its what makes people strong. to the insignificant lallante, whats your beef? in a randomly cussing people mood?
Vex Seraphim	Posted - 2004.10.26 22:02:00 - [43] I find myself very much agreeing with Dianabolic here. The corporations that have abandoned CFS once it got hot, have just destroyed their names, their reputation, and their members. I, for one, will never trust a member of any of these corps, for i detest backstabbers and betrayers. Oh, and for all the 'peaceful manufacturing and stuff' corps there, basically for the ...kitty... corps out there that made THAT a reason for their departure, Carebearland is anything above .4, by being in zerosec space, you automatically accepted the possibility of combat, yet now you deny it, which makes you, my friends, hypocrytes. ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard :: :: bio :: blog ::
Vex Seraphim	Posted - 2004.10.26 22:02:00 - [44] I find myself very much agreeing with Dianabolic here. The corporations that have abandoned CFS once it got hot, have just destroyed their names, their reputation, and their members. I, for one, will never trust a member of any of these corps, for i detest backstabbers and betrayers. Oh, and for all the 'peaceful manufacturing and stuff' corps there, basically for the ...kitty... corps out there that made THAT a reason for their departure, Carebearland is anything above .4, by being in zerosec space, you automatically accepted the possibility of combat, yet now you deny it, which makes you, my friends, hypocrytes. ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard :: :: bio :: blog ::
BlackKnight	Posted - 2004.10.27 00:36:00 - [45] Quote: Carebearland is anything above .4, Carebearland OMGWTFPWNS all space....u can mine lots of scordite there which is the best roid out there (im really bored as its hard for me to play eve atm cause im stuck in the bloody tpar station all alone surrounded by FA that camp the station when i log on...but i plan to escape by using pointed spoon and a jar or pickles) Servent of The Scordite Gods
BlackKnight	Posted - 2004.10.27 00:36:00 - [46] Quote: Carebearland is anything above .4, Carebearland OMGWTFPWNS all space....u can mine lots of scordite there which is the best roid out there (im really bored as its hard for me to play eve atm cause im stuck in the bloody tpar station all alone surrounded by FA that camp the station when i log on...but i plan to escape by using pointed spoon and a jar or pickles) Servent of The Scordite Gods
Detaitiv	Posted - 2004.10.27 05:31:00 - [47] Quote: Some of the corporations that fought in game have made peace. Some of the corporations that fought in game are still at war. Some of both sets of corporations whether they fought or not are posting on the boards. You are right. That statement would have been more accurate. It was not my intent to insult those Corporations that continue to fight us. I simply find it aggravating for people to insult the corporations that fought us with very little support from the UFS people who shouted the loudest on the boards. TPS seems to care only for the amount of trolling a corporation does, not the effort they show in game.
Detaitiv	Posted - 2004.10.27 05:31:00 - [48] Quote: Some of the corporations that fought in game have made peace. Some of the corporations that fought in game are still at war. Some of both sets of corporations whether they fought or not are posting on the boards. You are right. That statement would have been more accurate. It was not my intent to insult those Corporations that continue to fight us. I simply find it aggravating for people to insult the corporations that fought us with very little support from the UFS people who shouted the loudest on the boards. TPS seems to care only for the amount of trolling a corporation does, not the effort they show in game.
Gungankllr	Posted - 2004.10.27 13:20:00 - [49] Originally by: Dianabolic Just to get things going: Quasar Technologies Chin Dynastie Softice The Black Riders Mithril Masters Security Corp Any more? Man, this is about the funniest thing I've ever read. I made a post in sarcasm about how the black riders were leaving CFS, and in the body of the post I was poking fun at the mass exodus of corporations from the delve area. The Black Riders (Membership, 1) have never been in CFS or any alliance for that matter... You should really read a post instead of going by the topic... www.hadean.org
Gungankllr	Posted - 2004.10.27 13:20:00 - [50] Originally by: Dianabolic Just to get things going: Quasar Technologies Chin Dynastie Softice The Black Riders Mithril Masters Security Corp Any more? Man, this is about the funniest thing I've ever read. I made a post in sarcasm about how the black riders were leaving CFS, and in the body of the post I was poking fun at the mass exodus of corporations from the delve area. The Black Riders (Membership, 1) have never been in CFS or any alliance for that matter... You should really read a post instead of going by the topic... www.hadean.org

meoff	Posted - 2004.10.27 16:05:00 - [51] In all this blather, has anyone thought of the trial corps that were brought into this conflict with not lies but lack of information, understandably due to trial status, and who then thought that they were doing the right thing? Fighting beside their new friends only to see them degrade to bickering and finally disentergrate of the alliance for the most part? Accusations of spies etc and finally distrust of all trial corps to the point of leaving them stranded and now on the wrong side of the fence. All with never agreeing to this in the first place?
meoff	Posted - 2004.10.27 16:05:00 - [52] In all this blather, has anyone thought of the trial corps that were brought into this conflict with not lies but lack of information, understandably due to trial status, and who then thought that they were doing the right thing? Fighting beside their new friends only to see them degrade to bickering and finally disentergrate of the alliance for the most part? Accusations of spies etc and finally distrust of all trial corps to the point of leaving them stranded and now on the wrong side of the fence. All with never agreeing to this in the first place?
Dianabolic	Posted - 2004.10.27 16:13:00 - [53] Originally by: Gungankllr Originally by: Dianabolic Just to get things going: Quasar Technologies Chin Dynastie Softice The Black Riders Mithril Masters Security Corp Any more? Man, this is about the funniest thing I've ever read. I made a post in sarcasm about how the black riders were leaving CFS, and in the body of the post I was poking fun at the mass exodus of corporations from the delve area. The Black Riders (Membership, 1) have never been in CFS or any alliance for that matter... You should really read a post instead of going by the topic... Bah, do you want some of this egg on my face? lol Originally by: Detaitiv You are right. That statement would have been more accurate. It was not my intent to insult those Corporations that continue to fight us. I simply find it aggravating for people to insult the corporations that fought us with very little support from the UFS people who shouted the loudest on the boards. TPS seems to care only for the amount of trolling a corporation does, not the effort they show in game. I have made no comment on the corporations that are still at war, other than kudos to them, I HAVE made comment on the gutless wimps that have abandoned their alliance in short order and amid gross publicity.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2004.10.27 16:13:00 - [54] Originally by: Gungankllr Originally by: Dianabolic Just to get things going: Quasar Technologies Chin Dynastie Softice The Black Riders Mithril Masters Security Corp Any more? Man, this is about the funniest thing I've ever read. I made a post in sarcasm about how the black riders were leaving CFS, and in the body of the post I was poking fun at the mass exodus of corporations from the delve area. The Black Riders (Membership, 1) have never been in CFS or any alliance for that matter... You should really read a post instead of going by the topic... Bah, do you want some of this egg on my face? lol Originally by: Detaitiv You are right. That statement would have been more accurate. It was not my intent to insult those Corporations that continue to fight us. I simply find it aggravating for people to insult the corporations that fought us with very little support from the UFS people who shouted the loudest on the boards. TPS seems to care only for the amount of trolling a corporation does, not the effort they show in game. I have made no comment on the corporations that are still at war, other than kudos to them, I HAVE made comment on the gutless wimps that have abandoned their alliance in short order and amid gross publicity.
alar1c	Posted - 2004.10.27 19:29:00 - [55] Originally by: meoff In all this blather, has anyone thought of the trial corps that were brought into this conflict with not lies but lack of information, understandably due to trial status, and who then thought that they were doing the right thing? Fighting beside their new friends only to see them degrade to bickering and finally disentergrate of the alliance for the most part? Accusations of spies etc and finally distrust of all trial corps to the point of leaving them stranded and now on the wrong side of the fence. All with never agreeing to this in the first place? I know some things have been said about NightHawks "betraying" Star Alliance. Well the above post sums up our feelings, yes we were thinking/had started to join StA. Then this war starts up and we were told/threatened that we had better get on board. Well, that's NOT the way to get co-operation in an alliance. And as a side note I think that UFS were on some damm good drugs if they thought they could win against FA. You should have had a plan to say 'hey FA were not happy. We are a force, see we can hold you/out blob you for PB. Give us all of PB as our own.' But no, so you will probably end up with nothing, not even a home. Sad!
alar1c	Posted - 2004.10.27 19:29:00 - [56] Originally by: meoff In all this blather, has anyone thought of the trial corps that were brought into this conflict with not lies but lack of information, understandably due to trial status, and who then thought that they were doing the right thing? Fighting beside their new friends only to see them degrade to bickering and finally disentergrate of the alliance for the most part? Accusations of spies etc and finally distrust of all trial corps to the point of leaving them stranded and now on the wrong side of the fence. All with never agreeing to this in the first place? I know some things have been said about NightHawks "betraying" Star Alliance. Well the above post sums up our feelings, yes we were thinking/had started to join StA. Then this war starts up and we were told/threatened that we had better get on board. Well, that's NOT the way to get co-operation in an alliance. And as a side note I think that UFS were on some damm good drugs if they thought they could win against FA. You should have had a plan to say 'hey FA were not happy. We are a force, see we can hold you/out blob you for PB. Give us all of PB as our own.' But no, so you will probably end up with nothing, not even a home. Sad!
crice	Posted - 2004.10.28 19:16:00 - [57] Originally by: darth solo Dianabolic, i know ya dont really like me, but i think me and u have some things in common, "SPINES"... this is just a game, but i would stick by ma buddies untill i had no ships left, then id ram them in ma pod.. Seems to me, that this isnt the case for many... An example would be fighing with friends, then to leave, and join ur enemy, that stuff stinks.. PPL just need to grow some and take the fight to their enemy no matter what the outcome.. leaving when the sh1t hits the fan is way low. d solo. I agree. It was very pathetic for the corps to pack up and leave CA because of tough times. You either adapt or die. We stuck it out in younger days with FE when being specifically targeted by NVA, we stuck it out when totally outnumbered in Cache. Honor and Integrity is all you have in EVE, without that you just have words.
crice	Posted - 2004.10.28 19:16:00 - [58] Originally by: darth solo Dianabolic, i know ya dont really like me, but i think me and u have some things in common, "SPINES"... this is just a game, but i would stick by ma buddies untill i had no ships left, then id ram them in ma pod.. Seems to me, that this isnt the case for many... An example would be fighing with friends, then to leave, and join ur enemy, that stuff stinks.. PPL just need to grow some and take the fight to their enemy no matter what the outcome.. leaving when the sh1t hits the fan is way low. d solo. I agree. It was very pathetic for the corps to pack up and leave CA because of tough times. You either adapt or die. We stuck it out in younger days with FE when being specifically targeted by NVA, we stuck it out when totally outnumbered in Cache. Honor and Integrity is all you have in EVE, without that you just have words.
GeM Morticia	Posted - 2004.10.29 00:18:00 - [59] Now I would really appreciate that you all stop from congratulating yourselves on what you have done in the past or what you are. Stop being nice and smart on these forums and realize what it means on EVE geopolitics so close from Shiva, then may be you'll be willing to come and assist (may be surely ? or may be you got too many implants now, flaming is easy) RES PUBLICA Diplomacy --- XF Trial member --- EX-CFS Senator Proud CFS member until the end: Dec 6, 2004
GeM Morticia	Posted - 2004.10.29 00:18:00 - [60] Now I would really appreciate that you all stop from congratulating yourselves on what you have done in the past or what you are. Stop being nice and smart on these forums and realize what it means on EVE geopolitics so close from Shiva, then may be you'll be willing to come and assist (may be surely ? or may be you got too many implants now, flaming is easy) RES PUBLICA Diplomacy --- XF Trial member --- EX-CFS Senator Proud CFS member until the end: Dec 6, 2004

Dianabolic	Posted - 2004.10.29 01:48:00 - [61] If you want help, ask for it.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2004.10.29 01:48:00 - [62] If you want help, ask for it.
Storm Mage	Posted - 2004.10.29 06:03:00 - [63] Originally by: crice I agree. It was very pathetic for the corps to pack up and leave CA because of tough times. You either adapt or die. We stuck it out in younger days with FE when being specifically targeted by NVA, we stuck it out when totally outnumbered in Cache. Honor and Integrity is all you have in EVE, without that you just have words. I could not agree with you more as that pretty much sums up 2 of the 3 core rules for EVE: 1)Adapt or die 2)Kill or be killed (primarily 0.0) 3) Honor and Integrity are all you have. Let the lightning be your warning and the thunder your battlecry!
Storm Mage	Posted - 2004.10.29 06:03:00 - [64] Originally by: crice I agree. It was very pathetic for the corps to pack up and leave CA because of tough times. You either adapt or die. We stuck it out in younger days with FE when being specifically targeted by NVA, we stuck it out when totally outnumbered in Cache. Honor and Integrity is all you have in EVE, without that you just have words. I could not agree with you more as that pretty much sums up 2 of the 3 core rules for EVE: 1)Adapt or die 2)Kill or be killed (primarily 0.0) 3) Honor and Integrity are all you have. Let the lightning be your warning and the thunder your battlecry!
John Bishop	Posted - 2004.10.30 17:51:00 - [65] i have to agree with dianabolic. these corps chose to run when their allies needed them the most. i label them as traitors and cowards. The honor is not in winning or losing, the honor comes from choosing to stand up when what you belive in is threatened. thse corps have given up on their belifes and will for ever be shamed in my eyes. _______________________________________________ sorry for the spelling and gramtic errors,,, im a redneck cowboy what did you expect anyways????
John Bishop	Posted - 2004.10.30 17:51:00 - [66] i have to agree with dianabolic. these corps chose to run when their allies needed them the most. i label them as traitors and cowards. The honor is not in winning or losing, the honor comes from choosing to stand up when what you belive in is threatened. thse corps have given up on their belifes and will for ever be shamed in my eyes. _______________________________________________ sorry for the spelling and gramtic errors,,, im a redneck cowboy what did you expect anyways????
Iaman altchar	Posted - 2004.10.31 01:06:00 - [67] I'm not really involved with the CFS/FA war, so I might see some thing wrong. CFS isn't the "Coalition of Free Stars" I learned to like (always heard about open space, where you can try out 0.0 space without becoming a part of an alliance). Right now it seems like they are fighting against FA and not for free space. The leaders of both alliances wanted the war, else I really can't understand that the diplomatics are so bad. If an alliance gets insane the corps really have to choice between "having no spline" or "following blindly and throwing away honor". And if I wanted to destroy CFS, I really did it like it happened. Get a PvP experienced corp (say... give 'em a second chance because they were pirates before) in the alliance, tell everybody that they are now strong enought and go out trashing some stations. If FA really did so, well done. But that wouldn't be possible with a good CFS leadership, they really have to see that. Or some people thought about blaming the PvP-corp for starting the war and go mining later again. I really would like to be know as somebody who think before acting rather than somebody that followes blindly a deamon into hell.
Iaman altchar	Posted - 2004.10.31 01:06:00 - [68] I'm not really involved with the CFS/FA war, so I might see some thing wrong. CFS isn't the "Coalition of Free Stars" I learned to like (always heard about open space, where you can try out 0.0 space without becoming a part of an alliance). Right now it seems like they are fighting against FA and not for free space. The leaders of both alliances wanted the war, else I really can't understand that the diplomatics are so bad. If an alliance gets insane the corps really have to choice between "having no spline" or "following blindly and throwing away honor". And if I wanted to destroy CFS, I really did it like it happened. Get a PvP experienced corp (say... give 'em a second chance because they were pirates before) in the alliance, tell everybody that they are now strong enought and go out trashing some stations. If FA really did so, well done. But that wouldn't be possible with a good CFS leadership, they really have to see that. Or some people thought about blaming the PvP-corp for starting the war and go mining later again. I really would like to be know as somebody who think before acting rather than somebody that followes blindly a deamon into hell.
S3VYN	Posted - 2004.10.31 01:45:00 - [69] A daemon is an internet server... those make common runs into hell? j/k of course. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be.
S3VYN	Posted - 2004.10.31 01:45:00 - [70] A daemon is an internet server... those make common runs into hell? j/k of course. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be.

Eldar Curunirr	Posted - 2004.11.01 03:45:00 - [71] Hmmm, 3 of the corps listed have taken the job in CA of protecting Great Wildlands for CA, sweet, more targets! Eldar
Eldar Curunirr	Posted - 2004.11.01 03:45:00 - [72] Hmmm, 3 of the corps listed have taken the job in CA of protecting Great Wildlands for CA, sweet, more targets! Eldar
Richter Etrenank	Posted - 2004.11.04 21:35:00 - [73] The Silver Dragon Defense Corporation has Officially Resigned from the Orion Alliance. I was not sure where to post this, so I found the nearest Period Basis Withdrawl forum and placed it here. I am sick of the discontent and the war which was fought over stupid reasons. I have engaged and destroyed many CFS ships as well as lost some of my own. For what? I believe this war was a mistake from day 1. So therefore I am officially ending hostilities by leaving the PB to those who want to squabble over it and moving on to better things... This is Richter Etrenank signing out... -Richter Etrenank -Former Fleet Commander, Orion Alliance
Richter Etrenank	Posted - 2004.11.04 21:35:00 - [74] The Silver Dragon Defense Corporation has Officially Resigned from the Orion Alliance. I was not sure where to post this, so I found the nearest Period Basis Withdrawl forum and placed it here. I am sick of the discontent and the war which was fought over stupid reasons. I have engaged and destroyed many CFS ships as well as lost some of my own. For what? I believe this war was a mistake from day 1. So therefore I am officially ending hostilities by leaving the PB to those who want to squabble over it and moving on to better things... This is Richter Etrenank signing out... -Richter Etrenank -Former Fleet Commander, Orion Alliance
Rover Vitesse	Posted - 2004.11.04 22:09:00 - [75] I will ask all DSMA/CFS corporations to return standings to 0.0. Silver Dragon were honourable opponents on the battlefield. Richter and I had a good chat, hopefully in the future we can meet and work alongside as friends.
Rover Vitesse	Posted - 2004.11.04 22:09:00 - [76] I will ask all DSMA/CFS corporations to return standings to 0.0. Silver Dragon were honourable opponents on the battlefield. Richter and I had a good chat, hopefully in the future we can meet and work alongside as friends.
Richter Etrenank	Posted - 2004.11.05 00:58:00 - [77] You speak kind words Rover, however many battles I have fought against your corp, and however many ships have died to my hand. I can't say I regret, however they were done without malice or hatred. I have fought only when ordered by counsil to do so... that is it... your words honor me Rover. Perhaps there is still a chance for peace... however as my loyalty and honor states, I will never attack Orion alliance or their allies unless provoked by them. It is a promise of honor I made to them upon my resignation. -Richter
Richter Etrenank	Posted - 2004.11.05 00:58:00 - [78] You speak kind words Rover, however many battles I have fought against your corp, and however many ships have died to my hand. I can't say I regret, however they were done without malice or hatred. I have fought only when ordered by counsil to do so... that is it... your words honor me Rover. Perhaps there is still a chance for peace... however as my loyalty and honor states, I will never attack Orion alliance or their allies unless provoked by them. It is a promise of honor I made to them upon my resignation. -Richter
Techtriz	Posted - 2004.11.09 17:33:00 - [79] Originally by: Jorev These corps sold their souls for the promise of crokite and Blood Raider farming, with an option of shooting Serpentis at 5m/day. A bit cheap IMO. If you at least were offered FA membership...but your honor for this? Dude you do know your own alliance(CA) has Softice on trial right?... right?
Techtriz	Posted - 2004.11.09 17:33:00 - [80] Originally by: Jorev These corps sold their souls for the promise of crokite and Blood Raider farming, with an option of shooting Serpentis at 5m/day. A bit cheap IMO. If you at least were offered FA membership...but your honor for this? Dude you do know your own alliance(CA) has Softice on trial right?... right?

Kreep13	Posted - 2004.11.10 21:32:00 - [81] Originally by: Techtriz Originally by: Jorev These corps sold their souls for the promise of crokite and Blood Raider farming, with an option of shooting Serpentis at 5m/day. A bit cheap IMO. If you at least were offered FA membership...but your honor for this? Dude you do know your own alliance(CA) has Softice on trial right?... right? Don't forget about Quasar as well ... Guess we're not the carebears that people "think" we are. See you in space.
Kreep13	Posted - 2004.11.10 21:32:00 - [82] Originally by: Techtriz Originally by: Jorev These corps sold their souls for the promise of crokite and Blood Raider farming, with an option of shooting Serpentis at 5m/day. A bit cheap IMO. If you at least were offered FA membership...but your honor for this? Dude you do know your own alliance(CA) has Softice on trial right?... right? Don't forget about Quasar as well ... Guess we're not the carebears that people "think" we are. See you in space.
Cardassius	Posted - 2004.11.11 15:04:00 - [83] Was nice to see Softice camp a2-v27 when they were still in CFS/StA. Pitty that Softice didn't contact Stain. ASCI Recruiting!
Cardassius	Posted - 2004.11.11 15:04:00 - [84] Was nice to see Softice camp a2-v27 when they were still in CFS/StA. Pitty that Softice didn't contact Stain. ASCI Recruiting!
Kreep13	Posted - 2004.11.12 02:41:00 - [85] Originally by: Cardassius Was nice to see Softice camp a2-v27 when they were still in CFS/StA. Pitty that Softice didn't contact Stain. I wouldn't say pitty at all. We have friends in CA and due to SA's non-aggression affiliation with FA at the time of the decision it was decided that CA was the logical choice. The members of Softice are enjoying our current relations with CA and are looking forward to permanent membership. That decision however is the choice of the CA council after we finish our trial. See you in space.
Kreep13	Posted - 2004.11.12 02:41:00 - [86] Originally by: Cardassius Was nice to see Softice camp a2-v27 when they were still in CFS/StA. Pitty that Softice didn't contact Stain. I wouldn't say pitty at all. We have friends in CA and due to SA's non-aggression affiliation with FA at the time of the decision it was decided that CA was the logical choice. The members of Softice are enjoying our current relations with CA and are looking forward to permanent membership. That decision however is the choice of the CA council after we finish our trial. See you in space.
Malken	Posted - 2004.11.12 04:12:00 - [87] i totally agree with Darth here. Dianabolic is a enemy that is fun to fight and he also got big ** and spine also. you fight for your mates until you are pushed into the 59th ibis then you are allowed to go mine in yulai. ppl need to grow some and straighten out that spine. no matter which alliance or corp, if you do not have pride then what do you have. Originally by:** Graelyn "We're at war with you, and you FIRED on us! I am so telling CONCORD!" Quote: [18:46:36] Weebear > WTS Electric Golf Cart, 1 careful owner. Phone Rome 555 6567
Malken	Posted - 2004.11.12 04:12:00 - [88] i totally agree with Darth here. Dianabolic is a enemy that is fun to fight and he also got big ** and spine also. you fight for your mates until you are pushed into the 59th ibis then you are allowed to go mine in yulai. ppl need to grow some and straighten out that spine. no matter which alliance or corp, if you do not have pride then what do you have. Originally by:** Graelyn "We're at war with you, and you FIRED on us! I am so telling CONCORD!" Quote: [18:46:36] Weebear > WTS Electric Golf Cart, 1 careful owner. Phone Rome 555 6567
kessah	Posted - 2004.11.12 23:10:00 - [89] welcome too curse guys uknow it makes sense -------------------------------------------------------- Im Your Huckleberry ;-)
kessah	Posted - 2004.11.12 23:10:00 - [90] welcome too curse guys uknow it makes sense -------------------------------------------------------- Im Your Huckleberry ;-)

Scythmar	Posted - 2004.12.06 19:25:00 - [91] They stopped fighting for you for the same reason I left...NO ORGANIZATION (oops...CAPS LOCK stuck for some reason). --------------- I guarantee that my opinions are the complete opposite of those of my corp and alliance. Get over it.
Scythmar	Posted - 2004.12.06 19:25:00 - [92] They stopped fighting for you for the same reason I left...NO ORGANIZATION (oops...CAPS LOCK stuck for some reason). --------------- I guarantee that my opinions are the complete opposite of those of my corp and alliance. Get over it.
Metal Dude	Posted - 2004.12.07 01:28:00 - [93] Very nice CA. Instead of having DMSA/CFS paying the 5% station tax to FA, in a few months, with your propaganda you destroyed that deal and got yourselves a nice slave force (DMSA/CFS corps joining CA) to pay you the tax (20%?). ThatÆs sounds like a great deal to me. Very nice in deed, CA. The truth will set you free * Proud to be ATUK *
Metal Dude	Posted - 2004.12.07 01:28:00 - [94] Very nice CA. Instead of having DMSA/CFS paying the 5% station tax to FA, in a few months, with your propaganda you destroyed that deal and got yourselves a nice slave force (DMSA/CFS corps joining CA) to pay you the tax (20%?). ThatÆs sounds like a great deal to me. Very nice in deed, CA. The truth will set you free * Proud to be ATUK *
Dirtball	Posted - 2004.12.07 19:13:00 - [95] xentech
Dirtball	Posted - 2004.12.07 19:13:00 - [96] xentech
Klio	Posted - 2004.12.08 00:27:00 - [97] Dont bump old threads please. EVE Forum Rules - Contact the Moderator Team
Klio	Posted - 2004.12.08 00:27:00 - [98] Dont bump old threads please. EVE Forum Rules - Contact the Moderator Team


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