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Campl3r Athonille
Bluestar Enterprises The Craftsmen
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:05:00 -
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I'm new and can't tell anything about previous sound problems, but FACT the sound of eve is ****. Music keeps playing after turning it out the day before, can not controll the output device (every ****** programm can use this, even evevoice).
The graphis are not that bad, but the ressources they need are to high for the outcome. I am from lol, and they had bigs problems with patches too, but I was really surprised it was at the last and first big patch for me. I expected from a game, which is celebrating 9th anniversary, that implying new functions and updating would go much smoother.
But, I primarly like the new inventory (despite bugs at dropping items at the wrong can in the tree =)).
These are various reasons that can you make eve like less, but these are no reason to quit. |
strikethree
Purple Passion Procurements
13
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:09:00 -
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Alia Gon'die wrote:Roisin Saoirse wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Interesting. Is this memory leak somehow selective?
I ask because I have not experienced this nor has anyone I am in contact with, and usualy a memory leak (sound related or not) is fairly universal. I personally keep the sound on in EVE, which puts me in the minority I am sure. I know three people with the same issue, two of us have the same sound cards (onboard RealTek HD, but different drivers) but one has a completely different chipset. It certainly seems to be a minority issue though from the feedback we've received. My desktop has Realtek HD audio and it never had this issue. Maybe it is some odd combination of devices that causes this to happen? If that is the case, then I don't think it would necessarily be CCPs fault for not testing every single possible PC configuration.
I have not actually tested to see if their was a memory leak but it would explain the randomness of my current sound issues. I do not use Realtek HD audio products though so my problem may not be the exact same as his problem.
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THE L0CK
Denying You Access
469
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:12:00 -
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strikethree wrote: I have not actually tested to see if their was a memory leak but it would explain the randomness of my current sound issues. I do not use Realtek HD audio products though so my problem may not be the exact same as his problem.
Now had this been a line of programming you would have just created a bug in the system. Once you see where the mistake is maybe you will understand a little better why programs are required to update often. Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
strikethree
Purple Passion Procurements
14
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:14:00 -
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Campl3r Athonille wrote:I'm new and can't tell anything about previous sound problems, but FACT the sound of eve is ****. Music keeps playing after turning it out the day before, can not controll the output device (every ****** programm can use this, even evevoice).
The graphis are not that bad, but the ressources they need are to high for the outcome. I am from lol, and they had bigs problems with patches too, but I was really surprised it was at the last and first big patch for me. I expected from a game, which is celebrating 9th anniversary, that implying new functions and updating would go much smoother.
But, I primarly like the new inventory (despite bugs at dropping items at the wrong can in the tree =)).
These are various reasons that can you make eve like less, but these are no reason to quit.
Please do not let my experiences chase you away. You are correct that a once or twice problem is easy to ignore and probably should be. Note that I have been playing for... I forget, six or seven years now. My cancellation is in response to what I perceive as a clear trend that shows no signs of ever improving. They may very well improve at some point. Keep playing until your point is reached. This is a really cool game after all. :)
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Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
58
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:18:00 -
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strikethree wrote:Alia Gon'die wrote:Roisin Saoirse wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Interesting. Is this memory leak somehow selective?
I ask because I have not experienced this nor has anyone I am in contact with, and usualy a memory leak (sound related or not) is fairly universal. I personally keep the sound on in EVE, which puts me in the minority I am sure. I know three people with the same issue, two of us have the same sound cards (onboard RealTek HD, but different drivers) but one has a completely different chipset. It certainly seems to be a minority issue though from the feedback we've received. My desktop has Realtek HD audio and it never had this issue. Maybe it is some odd combination of devices that causes this to happen? If that is the case, then I don't think it would necessarily be CCPs fault for not testing every single possible PC configuration. I have not actually tested to see if their was a memory leak but it would explain the randomness of my current sound issues. I do not use Realtek HD audio products though so my problem may not be the exact same as his problem.
Anyway OP, I get that having to download patches is frustrating but your lack of experience with other games really can't be blamed on CCP. Releasing patches frequently is actually a sign of a good, attentive game company. Bugs pretty much can't be prevented 100%, everyone reasonable should know this, especially in an MMO.
I have to comment on your choice of computer as well. HOw much did you pay for that 2010 Macbook Pro? 1500-2000$? You could have just as easily gotten a very high quality windows laptop for the same price, and you would not be having gaming issues with it.
For instance, the laptop I just bought for school I just bought on clearance for $1000 (It's, like, $800~ now) and is actually comparable to your primary desktop. Maybe even better. i7 2.23 ghz, GTX560, 8gb ram, all that stuff. In the future, consider buying a Windows Laptop instead of an overpriced, over engineered apple product. |
strikethree
Purple Passion Procurements
14
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:23:00 -
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THE L0CK wrote:strikethree wrote: I have not actually tested to see if their was a memory leak but it would explain the randomness of my current sound issues. I do not use Realtek HD audio products though so my problem may not be the exact same as his problem.
Now had this been a line of code you would have just created a bug in the system. Once you see where the mistake is maybe you will understand a little better why programs are required to update often.
Hm. Poster does troll but the contents of the post seem sincere. Okay, here we go:
I am not entirely certain what you are getting at by saying I just introduced a bug. My best guess is that you are responding to the "not actually tested" portion and the ensuing "theory of cause" portion. If so, you would be correct. I am not quitting because there is a memory leak though, so my guess as to the cause of the bug/s are pretty much irrelevant.
Regards, strike
D'oh! I was looking too hard. Their/there. You are correct. Good catch. Here is the difference between myself and CCP: I will make a note to check for phonetic spelling errors in my future posts. I hope that ewe will be understanding of the typo knowing that eye will pay more attention to such silliness in the future. ;)
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Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
58
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:24:00 -
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strikethree wrote:THE L0CK wrote:strikethree wrote: I have not actually tested to see if their was a memory leak but it would explain the randomness of my current sound issues. I do not use Realtek HD audio products though so my problem may not be the exact same as his problem.
Now had this been a line of code you would have just created a bug in the system. Once you see where the mistake is maybe you will understand a little better why programs are required to update often. Hm. Poster does troll but the contents of the post seem sincere. Okay, here we go: I am not entirely certain what you are getting at by saying I just introduced a bug. My best guess is that you are responding to the "not actually tested" portion and the ensuing "theory of cause" portion. If so, you would be correct. I am not quitting because there is a memory leak though, so my guess as to the cause of the bug/s are pretty much irrelevant. Regards, strike D'oh! I was looking too hard. Their/there. You are correct. Good catch. Here is the difference between myself and CCP: I will make a note to check for phonetic spelling errors in my future posts. I hope that ewe will be understanding of the typo knowing that eye will pay more attention to such silliness in the future. ;)
If only coding errors were as easy to catch as phonetic spelling errors. |
Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
58
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:25:00 -
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Campl3r Athonille wrote:I'm new and can't tell anything about previous sound problems, but FACT the sound of eve is ****. Music keeps playing after turning it out the day before, can not controll the output device (every ****** programm can use this, even evevoice).
The graphis are not that bad, but the ressources they need are to high for the outcome. I am from lol, and they had bigs problems with patches too, but I was really surprised it was at the last and first big patch for me. I expected from a game, which is celebrating 9th anniversary, that implying new functions and updating would go much smoother.
But, I primarly like the new inventory (despite bugs at dropping items at the wrong can in the tree =)).
These are various reasons that can you make eve like less, but these are no reason to quit.
Yeah, don't leave. OPs issues seem to mostly be on his end. |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
791
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:25:00 -
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so you must hate playing all mmos then Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
159
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:27:00 -
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Bot tears are the best tears. If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it. |
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strikethree
Purple Passion Procurements
17
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:28:00 -
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Alia Gon'die wrote:strikethree wrote:Alia Gon'die wrote:Roisin Saoirse wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Interesting. Is this memory leak somehow selective?
I ask because I have not experienced this nor has anyone I am in contact with, and usualy a memory leak (sound related or not) is fairly universal. I personally keep the sound on in EVE, which puts me in the minority I am sure. I know three people with the same issue, two of us have the same sound cards (onboard RealTek HD, but different drivers) but one has a completely different chipset. It certainly seems to be a minority issue though from the feedback we've received. My desktop has Realtek HD audio and it never had this issue. Maybe it is some odd combination of devices that causes this to happen? If that is the case, then I don't think it would necessarily be CCPs fault for not testing every single possible PC configuration. I have not actually tested to see if their was a memory leak but it would explain the randomness of my current sound issues. I do not use Realtek HD audio products though so my problem may not be the exact same as his problem. Anyway OP, I get that having to download patches is frustrating but your lack of experience with other games really can't be blamed on CCP. Releasing patches frequently is actually a sign of a good, attentive game company. Bugs pretty much can't be prevented 100%, everyone reasonable should know this, especially in an MMO. I have to comment on your choice of computer as well. HOw much did you pay for that 2010 Macbook Pro? 1500-2000$? You could have just as easily gotten a very high quality windows laptop for the same price, and you would not be having gaming issues with it. For instance, the laptop I just bought for school I just bought on clearance for $1000 (It's, like, $800~ now) and is actually comparable to your primary desktop. Maybe even better. i7 2.23 ghz, GTX560, 8gb ram, all that stuff. In the future, consider buying a Windows Laptop instead of an overpriced, over engineered apple product.
Thanks for the purchasing advice but it does not fit for me. If you read some of my other posts in this thread, you will note that I have several computers, one of which is absurd overkill for Eve. I bought the laptop because I need a real Unix based system to take with me while traveling. I am gone for extended periods and I play Eve. There is no reason for a game with the qualities of Eve to not run on such a laptop. I should not have to buy a new laptop every year to play Eve. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
2421
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:29:00 -
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I have to agree with the OP, I've been in other mmo's that rarely ever needed any extra 'Patching' done after deploying new content.
History repeats itself and in the case of Eve, that rings so true more often than not.
+1 for the OP.
DMC |
Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
58
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:31:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:I have to agree with the OP, I've been in other mmo's that rarely ever needed any extra 'Patching' done after deploying new content.
History repeats itself and in the case of Eve, that rings so true more often than not.
+1 for the OP.
DMC
Jesus christ DMC, you just hate CCP don't you? IF they aren't 100% perfect you are so less than pleased that you seem to think the developers should get on bent knew and lick your feet clean. |
Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
218
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:32:00 -
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your stuf, can i haz? On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton where the dripping patchouli was more than scent, It was a sun-á |
George Whitebread
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
31
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:33:00 -
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Please let me win this thread! "I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say" - George Whitebread |
strikethree
Purple Passion Procurements
17
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:35:00 -
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Vaju Enki wrote:Bot tears are the best tears.
I am certain that this is a troll so I am not responding directly to it... however, this is the second time I have been accused of being a bot and I am curious why anyone would think this. I am perfectly real and there are no tears.
Assuming there are bots cancelling real accounts and posting about it, do they actually post real responses to real replies?
What would there be to gain if I were a bot?
Kind of weird. |
strikethree
Purple Passion Procurements
17
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:44:00 -
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Alia Gon'die wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:I have to agree with the OP, I've been in other mmo's that rarely ever needed any extra 'Patching' done after deploying new content.
History repeats itself and in the case of Eve, that rings so true more often than not.
+1 for the OP.
DMC Jesus christ DMC, you just hate CCP don't you? IF they aren't 100% perfect you are so less than pleased that you seem to think the developers should get on bent knew and lick your feet clean.
Hm. There are different levels of "patching'. It is not a case of 100% perfect or 100% crap. Perhaps what he is implying is that while 97% (random number) perfect is what he is used to seeing, what he is seeing with Eve is only 67% (another random number) perfect. Maybe?
For me, it has nothing to do with hating. Why would I stay so long and give so much money to CCP if I hated them? I just wanted to cancel my account today and let them know why I was doing so. The form I was submitting it in either could/would not accept it or it timed out.
My cancellation speaks for itself. They get the feedback that I am not happy spending my money in this manner. My original post was to give them a clearer reason than just, "I am unhappy". I hope this helps you and CCP understand what is going on and why it is going on. |
strikethree
Purple Passion Procurements
17
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:46:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Get ready to have your thread turbo trolled...
Thank you for the clear and timely advice. It was even worse than I was expecting despite your warning.
Kind regards, Dave
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EmpireOfDust
The Scope Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:51:00 -
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Don't see how you can have problems with EVE graphically. I can get 2-3 FPS with emulated Shader Model 3.0 on my parents ****** netbook. |
Peck R Wood
Blue Skull Hot Rodders
2
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:55:00 -
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Don't let 'em get you down, brother. It's just a shame we have to lose a good player, such as yourself. It's also a shame to let all that isk go to waste, now if you could see your way into giving some of that to me, I guarantee . . . "Benteen, come on, big village, be quick. Bring packs." -George Armstrong Custer
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strikethree
Purple Passion Procurements
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Posted - 2012.06.07 22:00:00 -
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Peck R Wood wrote:Don't let 'em get you down, brother. It's just a shame we have to lose a good player, such as yourself. It's also a shame to let all that isk go to waste, now if you could see your way into giving some of that to me, I guarantee . . .
LOL. Best "all ur stuffz" reply so far. Leading with a supportive response and falling off with a casual suggestion and guarantee (of something?). I like the construction of the post.
Hell, it was sooo good, I will pay you for it if you want. 100m ISK sound fun?
I am thinking of what ship to give you now...
Kind regards, strike
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adam smash
University of Caille Gallente Federation
98
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Posted - 2012.06.07 22:01:00 -
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problem found, OP is on a crapple, just because your crapple overheats does not make it an eve issue lol. |
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
469
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Posted - 2012.06.07 22:04:00 -
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Alia Gon'die wrote: I have to comment on your choice of computer as well. HOw much did you pay for that 2010 Macbook Pro? 1500-2000$? You could have just as easily gotten a very high quality windows laptop for the same price, and you would not be having gaming issues with it.
Well he would but only due to the nature of the beast. But he wouldn't be having many of the issues mentioned, that part is true. I wonder if OP realizes that MAc requires extra conversion which is why many companies don't even bother with compatibility for it.
But for price range Mac just can't compete with a PC. For what he did pay for that notebook he could have easily have gotten a high end laptop or pc that is quite comparable and as stated would have far fewer issues. Plus with PC you can upgrade parts as you move along. Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
TheBreadMuncher
Boxxed Up Industries EPIC Alliance
106
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Posted - 2012.06.07 22:06:00 -
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Your stuff. In the bucket. Off you go. I only ever emerge from the shadows when my main is banned. |
Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
58
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Posted - 2012.06.07 22:11:00 -
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strikethree wrote:Alia Gon'die wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:I have to agree with the OP, I've been in other mmo's that rarely ever needed any extra 'Patching' done after deploying new content.
History repeats itself and in the case of Eve, that rings so true more often than not.
+1 for the OP.
DMC Jesus christ DMC, you just hate CCP don't you? IF they aren't 100% perfect you are so less than pleased that you seem to think the developers should get on bent knew and lick your feet clean. Hm. There are different levels of "patching'. It is not a case of 100% perfect or 100% crap. Perhaps what he is implying is that while 97% (random number) perfect is what he is used to seeing, what he is seeing with Eve is only 67% (another random number) perfect. Maybe? For me, it has nothing to do with hating. Why would I stay so long and give so much money to CCP if I hated them? I just wanted to cancel my account today and let them know why I was doing so. The form I was submitting it in either could/would not accept it or it timed out. My cancellation speaks for itself. They get the feedback that I am not happy spending my money in this manner. My original post was to give them a clearer reason than just, "I am unhappy". I hope this helps you and CCP understand what is going on and why it is going on.
I wasn't talking about you hating though, was I? DMC has a bad habit of coming into threads and taking every opportunity he can to **** all over CCP. |
strikethree
Purple Passion Procurements
18
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Posted - 2012.06.07 22:11:00 -
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THE L0CK wrote:Alia Gon'die wrote: I have to comment on your choice of computer as well. HOw much did you pay for that 2010 Macbook Pro? 1500-2000$? You could have just as easily gotten a very high quality windows laptop for the same price, and you would not be having gaming issues with it.
Well he would but only due to the nature of the beast. But he wouldn't be having many of the issues mentioned, that part is true. I wonder if OP realizes that MAc requires extra conversion which is why many companies don't even bother with compatibility for it. But for price range Mac just can't compete with a PC. For what he did pay for that notebook he could have easily have gotten a high end laptop or pc that is quite comparable and as stated would have far fewer issues. Plus with PC you can upgrade parts as you move along.
I have multiple computers. Why is everyone focusing on the Apple? It is a computer that I have that exacerbates the worst of the resource usage issues. Even on my absurd overkill computer, I STILL have to wait for my ships to load. The problem is the inefficient use of resources, some of which even overkill hardware can not overcome because it is not a hardware problem.
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strikethree
Purple Passion Procurements
18
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Posted - 2012.06.07 22:12:00 -
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Alia Gon'die wrote:strikethree wrote:Alia Gon'die wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:I have to agree with the OP, I've been in other mmo's that rarely ever needed any extra 'Patching' done after deploying new content.
History repeats itself and in the case of Eve, that rings so true more often than not.
+1 for the OP.
DMC Jesus christ DMC, you just hate CCP don't you? IF they aren't 100% perfect you are so less than pleased that you seem to think the developers should get on bent knew and lick your feet clean. Hm. There are different levels of "patching'. It is not a case of 100% perfect or 100% crap. Perhaps what he is implying is that while 97% (random number) perfect is what he is used to seeing, what he is seeing with Eve is only 67% (another random number) perfect. Maybe? For me, it has nothing to do with hating. Why would I stay so long and give so much money to CCP if I hated them? I just wanted to cancel my account today and let them know why I was doing so. The form I was submitting it in either could/would not accept it or it timed out. My cancellation speaks for itself. They get the feedback that I am not happy spending my money in this manner. My original post was to give them a clearer reason than just, "I am unhappy". I hope this helps you and CCP understand what is going on and why it is going on. I wasn't talking about you hating though, was I? DMC has a bad habit of coming into threads and taking every opportunity he can to **** all over CCP.
Oh. I was not aware he has such a habit. I apologize for interfering. Have a good day. :)
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Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
58
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Posted - 2012.06.07 22:14:00 -
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Good days are out of the question so long as I'm at school 13 hours out of the day. |
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra Gallente Federation
91
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Posted - 2012.06.07 22:19:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Roisin Saoirse wrote:Since I've had to disable the sound due to a crippling memory leak introduced in Crucible and never fixed or even responded to, I can sympathise. In fact, the constant serious bug introductions from SiSi to TQ is one of the main reasons I'm leaving too, as well as a few other people. So you're certainly not the only one in this situation.
Apparently CCP are looking to improve the situation with regard to bug reporting and feedback but let's be honest, a certain over-quoted phrase Hilmar used springs to mind again and again. Time will tell. Interesting. Is this memory leak somehow selective? I ask because I have not experienced this nor has anyone I am in contact with, and usualy a memory leak (sound related or not) is fairly universal. I personally keep the sound on in EVE, which puts me in the minority I am sure. I've heard of this memory leak, it is a PEBKAC problem and is related to an ID-tenT problem. "I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
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Saia Tae Arragosa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
334
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Posted - 2012.06.07 22:25:00 -
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OP, seriously, if you truly are going to leave forever, you could send some of those resources and ISK to players who intend to stay and make a go at it. I'd be willing to take some of them off your hand. I'll put it to good use. |
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