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Dark Livingstone	Posted - 2009.09.30 11:30:00 - [1] now i lost 3 hulks to suicide ganking un provoked.. so ccp wants us all to be pirates??
N Ano	Posted - 2009.09.30 11:33:00 - [2] No one cares about your loss. Its only a game. Eve is a sandbox game. Move on. This is not the help your are looking for. ect. Originally by: Blane Xero SoonÖ. Shortly AfterÖ Iceland Conquers the WorldÖ
Eleskia MOTHER-CORP Majesta Empire	Posted - 2009.09.30 11:34:00 - [3] move system or fit a decent tank..? I've been mining dual account and haven't had a loss yet. You just have to prepare for the worst and always expect the unexpected.... and don't mine afk ;¼)
Naibasak	Posted - 2009.09.30 11:41:00 - [4] To answer your question, NO, ccp wants you to join a big scary alliance and move to 0.0 space.
Schayol Sunkeeper Imperial Crusade Syndicate	Posted - 2009.09.30 11:43:00 - [5] why was no one protecting you ?
Dark Livingstone	Posted - 2009.09.30 11:47:00 - [6] Lol, guess ur rigth.. 0.0 mining ops are really what everyone wants.. off course (dont get nausia from the sarcasm) btw: afk? stationary? bad tank? etc? Stop thinking u know all... I dont want advice here, so move along...
Louis deGuerre Gallente The Rise of The Dragon Knights Void Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.30 11:50:00 - [7] Originally by: Schayol Sunkeeper why was no one protecting you ? Actually, that raises an interesting question. HOW could you protect someone against a suicide gank ? I don't think you can actually defend yourself against a highsec gank except tank your Hulk to the max as I do and hope it's enough. Which of course hits into your mining potential. --- Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenÆt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.09.30 11:51:00 - [8] Originally by: Louis deGuerre Originally by: Schayol Sunkeeper why was no one protecting you ? Actually, that raises an interesting question. HOW could you protect someone against a suicide gank ? I don't think you can actually defend yourself against a highsec gank except tank your Hulk to the max as I do and hope it's enough. Which of course hits into your mining potential. Risk vs Reward and all that. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.09.30 11:52:00 - [9] Originally by: Louis deGuerre Originally by: Schayol Sunkeeper why was no one protecting you ? Actually, that raises an interesting question. HOW could you protect someone against a suicide gank ? I don't think you can actually defend yourself against a highsec gank except tank your Hulk to the max as I do and hope it's enough. Which of course hits into your mining potential. Well you dont have to use a Hulk... But tbh, short of mining in a dreadnaught, if enough people want to see you dead, and your playstle involves sitting stationary in space for long periods of time, then there's not much that you can do.
Dark Livingstone	Posted - 2009.09.30 11:55:00 - [10] tbh most of the people want u to play after their fiddle.. And having moved around to keep safe its not that easy finding efficant protection for the system ur situated in.

Dark Livingstone	Posted - 2009.09.30 12:00:00 - [11] From the day i started playing, until today; Theres been an real increase in pirazy and ninjaing.. Actually it seems to be more money in it if the result of mining is equal to 0 isk.. You guys are rigth, if someone really wants u dead, ur dead.. And theres no joy getting ur comrades to kill them afterwards either, because they went in with the intent to loose their ship anyway..
Doomed Predator The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2009.09.30 12:00:00 - [12] Originally by: Dark Livingstone Lol, guess ur rigth.. 0.0 mining ops are really what everyone wants.. off course (dont get nausia from the sarcasm) btw: afk? stationary? bad tank? etc? Stop thinking u know all... I dont want advice here, so move along... Then why the sad poast? The 'Fendahlian Collective' strikes again
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.09.30 12:03:00 - [13] Originally by: Louis deGuerre Originally by: Schayol Sunkeeper why was no one protecting you ? Actually, that raises an interesting question. HOW could you protect someone against a suicide gank ? How ? Three simple ways : * you remote-rep the victim so it doesn't die before CONCORD shows up * you jam/damp/whatever the attacker so it can't kill the victim in time * you kill the attacker before it kills the victim _ Info about our corp \| Beginer's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper
Schayol Sunkeeper Imperial Crusade Syndicate	Posted - 2009.09.30 12:50:00 - [14] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Louis deGuerre Originally by: Schayol Sunkeeper why was no one protecting you ? Actually, that raises an interesting question. HOW could you protect someone against a suicide gank ? How ? Three simple ways : * you remote-rep the victim so it doesn't die before CONCORD shows up * you jam/damp/whatever the attacker so it can't kill the victim in time * you kill the attacker before it kills the victim * you scout the route and report and bypass every possible gank * you don't use a ship that screams gank me all over the place
LordSwift Caldari SWG-RoNaN-BloOdFiN	Posted - 2009.09.30 13:05:00 - [15] Are goons at it again. Damn bees. Must be bored waiting on the next expansion
Cuchulain Spartan	Posted - 2009.09.30 13:31:00 - [16] Originally by: LordSwift Are goons at it again. Damn bees. Must be bored waiting on the next expansion Few buddies of mine were hi sec mining two week back and a few goons landed in the middle of them with smartbomb BS's. They lost a few ships, hulks/macks and their orca got out in hull. Easily a bil in losses across a handfull or players plus insurance didnt really cover the majority of it. No way to defend from it and no real warning. Two people from the same alliance quit Eve recently due to a bad run of luck with hi sec suicide ganks on their mining ships. Some people just want to mine in hi sec and build things which is fine by me but seems to be getting tougher these days. You can easily create a noob alt, train it for 12 hours and gank a hulk with 8 of these noobs in hi sec using destroyers.
Louis deGuerre Gallente The Rise of The Dragon Knights Void Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.30 13:46:00 - [17] Edited by: Louis deGuerre on 30/09/2009 13:46:22 Originally by: Akita T How ? Three simple ways : * you remote-rep the victim so it doesn't die before CONCORD shows up * you jam/damp/whatever the attacker so it can't kill the victim in time * you kill the attacker before it kills the victim I rather doubt this. These gank ships must be fitted for a massive alpha volley and assume one combined shot shoot be enough to incenerate you. You can't fire first in highsec as otherwise you'll get the friendly attention of Concord. If you fire second it's pointless as the ship in questions will be debris already and Concord will kill them anyways. So option 2 and 3 won't work. Option 1 has a tiny chance of working but I'd call it very unlikely to help. Seems only thing that would help is to wardec the goons so you can fire first. I doubt many people will do that Best thing to do is to dock up whenever a goon passes trough your system I guess. Of course, they're not the only ones ganking so that won't help all that much. --- Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenÆt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie
Ticarus Hellbrandt	Posted - 2009.09.30 13:48:00 - [18] start taking some risk, it will be a whole lot more fun
W3370Pi4 Caldari	Posted - 2009.09.30 14:03:00 - [19] start manufacturing them or go mine in 0.0 _______ Join The"Legit Trading" channel
Trebor DeCaldar Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.09.30 14:08:00 - [20] Originally by: Akita T How ? Three simple ways : * you remote-rep the victim so it doesn't die before CONCORD shows up * you jam/damp/whatever the attacker so it can't kill the victim in time * you kill the attacker before it kills the victim 1) Useless... your reps won't have an effect until after the target takes damage. Suiciders are setup to Alpha their target so your reps will have no effect 2) Wrong... Concord will smoke you 3) Once again, the wrath of Concord Only CCP has the ability to fix suicide ganking... removing insurance for Concord kills. Thus making it too frickin expensive to suicide for the lulz. Originally by: Hoo Is Siigari lost a ship... In other news, water is wet, fire is hot, and bacon is delicious

Marko Riva Adamant Inc.	Posted - 2009.09.30 14:17:00 - [21] Pay attention, be ready to warp out if you see stuff coming into your belt, don't be afk. Jeez, that's kinda like the same people have to do in low and zero sec! /shock
Joe Skellington Minmatar JOKAS Industries Apocalypse Now.	Posted - 2009.09.30 14:23:00 - [22] Originally by: Marko Riva Pay attention, be ready to warp out if you see stuff coming into your belt, don't be afk. Jeez, that's kinda like the same people have to do in low and zero sec! /shock Don't forget Wormhole space.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2009.09.30 14:25:00 - [23] Fit a proper buffer tank, then they won't alpha you easily and a simple osprey will save the hulk(s). Depending on how much yield you want and how you rig it, a hulk can get somewhere between 12k and 30k EHPs. If you get suicide ganked by a single Brutix, you are a failure. -------- Ideas for: Mining
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.09.30 14:35:00 - [24] Edited by: Akita T on 30/09/2009 14:38:02 Originally by: Trebor DeCaldar Originally by: Akita T How ? Three simple ways : * you remote-rep the victim so it doesn't die before CONCORD shows up * you jam/damp/whatever the attacker so it can't kill the victim in time * you kill the attacker before it kills the victim 1) Useless... your reps won't have an effect until after the target takes damage. Suiciders are setup to Alpha their target so your reps will have no effect 2) Wrong... Concord will smoke you 3) Once again, the wrath of Concord 1) Suiciders usually depend on being able to push two, three or maybe even four volleys out before they get CONCORDED. You seldom ever will see a suicide-gank in a SINGLE alpha-strike (unless it's "untanked barge vs disco-BS", and then again, victim's to blame). Also, remote shield transfers have "alpha-repair" too, and some damn nice cycle time. Shield-buffer your suicide-prone ship instead of equipping it with shield boosters. 2) Wrong. The suicide-ganker already has GCC since he opened fire, so anybody can do whatever they want to him. If you can jam him just as he tries to fire up the second volley... you get the idea. Smartbombs might be nastier, but that can be "combated" by not clumping together like morons. Oh, and energy neutralizers. 3) Once again, GCC. No CONCORD for you. Sure, you can't kill a buffer-tanked BC/BS in time, but you might just be able to kill skimpily buffered cruisers, destroyers or frigates before CONCORD shows up. Try again ? _ Info about our corp \| Beginer's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper
Mrmuttley National Health Service	Posted - 2009.09.30 14:35:00 - [25] Edited by: Mrmuttley on 30/09/2009 14:38:05 having suicided some Hulks and Mackinaws (genuine chinese sweatshop or macrominers I promise you.) I can assure that it's a walk in the park to take a disco raven and destroy the whole mining operation. There is no real defence other than dont use Hulks and Mackinaws in highsec. It's too tempting a target and more expensive to replace. Otherwise major paranoia and stay away from the busy systems to reduce the risk. Harsh but true. /shrug .
Awesome Possum Imperium Signal Corps	Posted - 2009.09.30 15:18:00 - [26] Originally by: Louis deGuerre Originally by: Schayol Sunkeeper why was no one protecting you ? Actually, that raises an interesting question. HOW could you protect someone against a suicide gank ? I don't think you can actually defend yourself against a highsec gank except tank your Hulk to the max as I do and hope it's enough. Which of course hits into your mining potential. 1. start an alt account 2. train caldari/minmatar logistics 3. buy basilisk/scimitar 4. target hulk 5. start shield reppers 6. laugh at anyone trying to suicide gank your hulk 7. there is no 7 8. but really? stop mining, its the least profitable profession and should only be done if you really really enjoy it. 9. sell your hulk character and buy a lvl 4 mission runner 10. words 11. more words 12. end ♥ Wreck Disposal Services
Korizan Red Mercury Incorporated	Posted - 2009.09.30 15:44:00 - [27] Edited by: Korizan on 30/09/2009 15:46:40 Watch Local. If local is so full you can't do that, change systems. Set known gankers and pirates to low standings. The best suggestion is location location location. Some places are just notorious for suicide ganks. Mining in those locations really is not a good idea. And just out of curiosity, you said three times now. What system / constellation ? Same People / corp ? What is the time frame ? week , month, year
Ohishi Caldari Apocalypse Reign	Posted - 2009.09.30 16:03:00 - [28] Originally by: Mrmuttley Edited by: Mrmuttley on 30/09/2009 14:38:05 having suicided some Hulks and Mackinaws (genuine chinese sweatshop or macrominers I promise you.) I can assure that it's a walk in the park to take a disco raven and destroy the whole mining operation. There is no real defence other than dont use Hulks and Mackinaws in highsec. It's too tempting a target and more expensive to replace. Otherwise major paranoia and stay away from the busy systems to reduce the risk. Harsh but true. /shrug This. Everyone offering advice on how to tank your ship or to use RR...are dead wrong. Suicide ganking is by far the easiest thing to do in EVE. If someone wants to get you they will get you. And to the guy that said to use a logi ship... You will lose that as well.
Awesome Possum Imperium Signal Corps	Posted - 2009.09.30 16:11:00 - [29] Originally by: Ohishi You will lose that as well. I call bovine *****. Fraps for proof or stfu. ♥ Wreck Disposal Services
Armoured C Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2009.09.30 16:27:00 - [30] mine with a logistic ship next to you and plate your hulk up ? Armoured C Steven Mason FOR CSM with added pirate hat



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