Really? Stick around and start keeping an eye out for it. You'll come across it soon enough.

Witout response rate data is useless though large numbers may fool some.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118674&find=unread

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=115419&find=unread

Couldn't be bothered.

Either make REAL consequences and make it harder for people to gank in highsec/low sec or remove it altogether

It is clear that CCP wants grossly inflated and ongoing rising prices on the market by permitting suicide gankers to come to high security to suicide gank players who make us ships at good prices.

I'm surprised at you, normally for a goon (jk) you are quite reasonable on the forums (even if I disagree with you). I don't see anyone arguing for a theme park or totally safe hi sec.

Plus the bounderies have changed in 9 years, concorde for example.

All I've seen is a request for balance not safety in the WoW sense of the word.

I for one don't want Wow in space.

Tal

GǪand I also like the fact that PvE is less important for EVE than Mac support and that potentially as few as 4% of the players started playing EVE for that reason. But those are just my biases.

I thought they changed there name to SyFy...
Never understood why.

CCP started supporting Mac's again? Last I checked the giant Mac Client Freeze thread is still going strong from November (when I gave up and started Dual Booting).

I'm thinking something to do with the SciFi sim they promised it was going to become?

Stuff

I thought they changed there name to SyFy...
Never understood why.

Maybe. I don't know GÇö I've historically had very little problems when running under OSX compared to the complaints levelled against the client. In fact, my bootcamped install tends to cause much more problems (but I think that might be due to the GFX card slowly conking out).

Since the results of this survey show only 25 percent of players are interested in pvp, CCP should immediately make loading pvp modules require 20 clicks and a secret password while all exploration (67%) frigates get free cookies and a performance increase.

After all, surveys do not lie.

Yonis Kador

Do you mean subs or simultaneous accounts online?

Yep and CCP did not know that they would only get 2400 responses when they made the survey.
What is important here is the fact that they did make a survey. It was an attempt to get feedback that they were not getting from the forum. That is what is important. They are working in directions that fit their needs more so than the forum user needs.
That is the take away. If anything I would expect the forum users probably had a 90% turnout for the survey so they are more fully represented than the silent majority in the survey results already.

Also, you said you had threads about Smartbombing the undocks of newbie systems. You did not produce.

and that's what I get for playing on a 5 year old laptop

What? "EVE is PvP game" concept isn't correct? Can't be. At least not according to this forum.

Seriously - this could explain why game stagnate while CCP prefer to listen its 25% PvP-focused customers instead of real cash cows in high-sec who feel themselves like outcasts while sponsoring FW and null-sec development.

I'm surprised at you, normally for a goon (jk) you are quite reasonable on the forums (even if I disagree with you). I don't see anyone arguing for a theme park or totally safe hi sec.

They pop up here & there.

The latest eve newsletter has a link to the April survey results, also given here

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/EVE_playing_behaviour?utm_source=newsletter77&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter77

Why do people start playing eve? The winners were a complex Sci Fi game with space exploration, with around 70%+ picking those.

And down at 25%? PvP.

It would appear that the survey takers were not drawn to eve by "the hard core PvP" but because its a Sci Fi game.

If CCP wants to attract more players, what should they concentrate on......

And dude, don't get me wrong. I LOVE sandbox. I just don't equate sandbox to griefing, non-consensual PvP and general douchebaggery. They're not in any way linked or required for sandbox to exist. Every sandbox is limited in some way, and limits on just how much freedom a player has in certain areas is always controlled - even in EVE (see Concord). Otherwise it's just anarchy.

Once again someone trying to superimpose alien concepts to a sandbox MMO. It seems to be really difficult to grasp the idea of EVE if you are used to themepark games. First of all, this is a 100% PVP game, with only dashes of limited PVE aspects that wouldn't function in isolation, you will always deal with other players in competitive manner at some point, if only via the market.

Consensual PVP is very limited, and there are no mechanics to control the engagements besides agreements between players.

Exactly just like in RL, there is no escape from other people. You only have civilization and it's institutions that try to punish people who break the accepted norms (represented by formal laws), but this does not protect you from non-consensual violence. In the best case, the guilty is caught and punished appropriately.

Never said that. Though don't let that get in your way.

And people who wont be happy till they can smartbomb rookie systems with impunity.

Right there. If there aren't any threads expressing a wish to smartbomb rookie systems, how do you know?

Don't make claims you can't back up.

I realize I'm going to get the standard "LOL GOONIES LIES GARBAGE GOONIES" **** for posting this but...

In goonswarm we do a lot of recruiting from an outside source that is primarily not an "Eve Forum" or even a "Video Game Forum" so this requires we deal with a lot of people who haven't really heard a single whit about Eve save that it may or may not be harder than other games of it's type. In order to get as many people in ships, in the game and interested in playing we've basically taken an entirely different approach than your average player does.

1. We have a skillplan laid out that puts our newbies in a ton of ships so they can try different combat roles in their first 30 and 60 days of playing.

2. We put them into combat on Day 1 if possible. Skillpoint elitism is not allowed. Any open to the general membership op is automatically "Rifter's allowed".

3. We shower them with money and free ships.

We purposefully try to keep them away from the boring or super tedious bullshit at least until they get self motivated to try those things out as an adjunct to having fun.

I'd wager these things are a large part of our success and cohesiveness.