Originally by: MaxxOmega

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Edited by: MaxxOmega on 04/10/2009 02:40:11
At least they killed off the politician in the first episode. Too bad they didn't have a couple of lawyers they could fire out an air lock...


And they never talk about basic life necessities on these shows.

1). What's to eat? Like is there a freezer full of space beasts to barbecue? And what about plain old water?
2). Where they can take a dump? Did the previous owners leave bum paper?
3). No showers or tampon dispensers either? In a week everyone will be nice and ripe, no space sex then...

Crazy crap...

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Originally by: MaxxOmega

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Edited by: MaxxOmega on 04/10/2009 16:09:43

Originally by: nahtoh

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Originally by: MaxxOmega

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Edited by: MaxxOmega on 04/10/2009 02:40:11
At least they killed off the politician in the first episode. Too bad they didn't have a couple of lawyers they could fire out an air lock...


And they never talk about basic life necessities on these shows.

1). What's to eat? Like is there a freezer full of space beasts to barbecue? And what about plain old water?
2). Where they can take a dump? Did the previous owners leave bum paper?
3). No showers or tampon dispensers either? In a week everyone will be nice and ripe, no space sex then...

Crazy crap...

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Like not paying attention?

Lack of water, mentioned...
Food, mentioned...
Toilet paper, they had a create if it.

Since its a Ancent ship and they were pretty much Human I guess you could be sure of there being some kind of arrangements for showers/bathrooms/toilets

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Mentioned doesn't mean resolved. And they still go no showers...


And in any case, most new tv premiere shows are nothing spectacular. Nothing more than character set up or some few expendables killed off. I looked back at the entire first season of Star Trek TNG and it was laughable compared to later years...

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Originally by: ReaperOfSly

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Except for failing to realise you can push buttons remotely with floaty camera balls, just so they could kill off some old guy and give Little Miss Forehead something to be mopey about for a few episodes?

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Originally by: Khemul Zula

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Originally by: Wendat Huron

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And from the way they made it sound, Destiny was sent out shortly before the Ancients ascended since that was the reason the ship was abandoned.

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Nah it sounds more like it was way befoe that, defo predates atlantis, ie does not seem to have any of the ancient gene to operate the equipment or run on ZPMs .
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"I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self

Originally by: Jacob Mei

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Originally by: goodby4u

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Originally by: Jacob Mei

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Originally by: goodby4u

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They had the necessary weapons to defeat the ori(the arc of truth itself) they were simply unwilling to use it(for obvious reasons)... Each battle they were on the losing end of they ran.

They overwhelmed the wraith for about 20-30 years, an offensive would had wiped them out without much trouble, however they were unwilling to attack them.

Watch the ascension episode with the time dilation field in sga, they were complete pacifists.

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No its explained in the very first episode of Atlantis by the city computer that the ancients were technologically superior but the wraith grew in numbers too fast for them to be defeated and quite litterally the atlantis empire that was in pegasus shrank from galaxy wide to only the city. At that point they decided it just wasnt worth it anymore, sunk the city and retreated back to earth through the stargate. They never overwelmed the wraith, quite the opposite (rewatch the first half hour of the first episode).

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They owned or protected about every planet in the galaxy and the wraith started on one, logically the ancients overwhelmed them at some point.

Also that same episode said they won every battle but were losing the war, this means that if they won every battle and were gaining ground then eventually the wraith would run out of cloning facilities and basic planets so they would be overwhelmed again. It is obvious they didn't do this as it would have been a short war.

As far as them being cowards, that was a result of them not wishing to be violent and therefore forfeit their life's work.

The final test for them was in a sense learning the difference between a good reason and a bad reason to fight.

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Im really not inclined to go watch the show again but checking gateworld on the information in regards to the wraith, atlantis and the first episode it all points to the same thing in that the ancients had their asses handed to them by the wraith.

They (ancients) may have won ever engagement but when the enemy can replace its numbers far more quickly then you can even your victories become hollow ones (if in a battle you kill 100k enemies and only suffer 1000 losses yourself, but in a few months your enemy can recoop those losses while you cant, its simply turns into a situation where whoever can replenish their numbers the fastest wins the war.)

In regards to the time dialation episode I still think it proves that being a pacifist was not required to ascend. Hell Daniel Jackson sure wasnt one (not to mention he loathed the ghould) and he was allowed to ascend.

In any case thats enough nerdum for me for the evening.

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Originally by: Destination SkillQueue

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Originally by: ReaperOfSly

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Yeah I'm wondering how Rush is going to get back now. They can't just get rid of the only decent character in the show, right?

My guess is he'll use the stargate to get ahead of the ship, wait for them to come through, then go back with them.

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I wonder how that would work exactly. Hi, thanks for leaving me to die alone there gaiz, because that is what planting evidence in an obvious way totally called for. It's not like you could have just punched me a few times, made it all public and reduce my influence and credibility among the crew to near zero.

I just hope he doesn't become some kind of regular villain, that plagues the crew with his mad quest for vengeance. Propably Rush just returns with the help of his convenient fully intact alien spaceship and they both blackmail each other to stay quiet about what really happened. Why else keep the real facts a secret from most of the crew? I'm expecting some pretty awkward moments at the dinner table, if that actually happens.

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