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Sader Rykane
Amarr Midnight Sentinels Midnight Space Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.10.03 04:12:00 -
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Well... I saw it.
The only thing I kept thinking while watching it was...
"Is this a Battlestar Galactica remake?"
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Jacob Mei
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.10.03 04:23:00 -
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Originally by: Sader Rykane Well... I saw it.
The only thing I kept thinking while watching it was...
"Is this a Battlestar Galactica remake?"
Im watching the rerun of it now and yeah, it has a distinct Galactica flavor, which isnt surprising how big of a hit Galactica was. I wont be surprised if the next few Scifi shows have similar elements.
Speaking of Galactica, Caprica comes out Jan 22 so maybe there might be something worth while to watch on fridays again soon. On an unrelated note, Kneel before Zod! |
Veinnail
Solstice Systems Development Concourse Distant Drums
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Posted - 2009.10.03 04:28:00 -
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i enjoyed the 2hour(including commercials) first episode. built a strong foundation for all of the characters, some classics used straight away. The writing style deff should get a rise on the bsg front. thinking it'll be worth watching the next few episodes =)
left me wanting more tbh =) good buildup, hope they can keep that momentum SSDC HOME|||SSDC WANTS YOU |
Kravick Drasani
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Posted - 2009.10.03 04:37:00 -
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Edited by: Kravick Drasani on 03/10/2009 04:38:25 I watched it. Yeah, I totally see the BSG elements here. I also see a lot of Star Trek: Voyager elements, but with a lot less technobabble.
The plot, I fear, is also going to be extremely predictable. The timer thing that (most likely) determines how long they have to explore planets is going to be the cause of certain people getting left behind and stranded. More than likely a few episodes are going to have the scouting parties just barely make it back in time before the ship goes back into FTL mode as well. I'm sure there will also be more predictable shenanigans relating to that timer like it getting broken or some spacial anomaly throws it off and they actually have less time on a planet then originally anticipated or some such scenario.
I'm hoping it turns out good though. SG:Atlantis was "ok" but wasn't nearly as good as SG:1 and the ending to BSG ticked me off so much that it made me hate the entire series. On top of that Doctor Who hasn't aired here in months so I'm starting to have withdraws on my sci fi fix! Nothing else has been worth watching IMO. -
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Asuka Smith
Gallente Noir.
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Posted - 2009.10.03 04:56:00 -
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****in' Atlantis SUCKED. It was out and out TERRRRRRIBLE. The first show only worked because of the actors' chemistry, it was horribly cheesy and cliche, and McGuyver held it together.
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goodby4u
Valor Inc. Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2009.10.03 05:00:00 -
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It looks like voyager, bsg, and 24 all rolled into one.
I absolutely hate most of the characters, and the severe lack of space battles to make up for a bad series might kill them.
However I will stay tuned, unfortunately the first episode didn't reveal much more then a basic plot.
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Jacob Mei
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.10.03 05:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kravick Drasani Edited by: Kravick Drasani on 03/10/2009 04:38:25 I watched it. Yeah, I totally see the BSG elements here. I also see a lot of Star Trek: Voyager elements, but with a lot less technobabble.
The plot, I fear, is also going to be extremely predictable. The timer thing that (most likely) determines how long they have to explore planets is going to be the cause of certain people getting left behind and stranded. More than likely a few episodes are going to have the scouting parties just barely make it back in time before the ship goes back into FTL mode as well. I'm sure there will also be more predictable shenanigans relating to that timer like it getting broken or some spacial anomaly throws it off and they actually have less time on a planet then originally anticipated or some such scenario.
I'm hoping it turns out good though. SG:Atlantis was "ok" but wasn't nearly as good as SG:1 and the ending to BSG ticked me off so much that it made me hate the entire series. On top of that Doctor Who hasn't aired here in months so I'm starting to have withdraws on my sci fi fix! Nothing else has been worth watching IMO.
Personally I thought the Galactica ending was the best choice and the most realistic (technology put the remaining human population through hell for four years, if you were in their position would you really be gun ho to use technology after finally being freed of it attacking you?).
I cant say there are really any Voyager elements other than they are on a space ship trying to get back home and that the obvious premise means that encountering the same type of "aliens" will be small. The Voyager crew had control of their ship to go where they wanted, kept to the ideals of the federation (personally I would have said **** the prime directive) and they somehow managed to keep from dealing with the real tough things.
The time limit I agree is going to be a recuring theme, though the very nature of the stargate network leads me to believe that at some point it will become a non issue in the second or third season (ie at some point their hopefully going to figure out its a good idea to give everyone a list of stargates along the ships route so they can meet up with the ship at a later date).
The one thing I really hope they do is completely and utterly abandon past races. No Ancients, no Asgard, no Wraith, No ghould, Jaffa or anything remotely resembling them. Seriously that would be the quickest way to kill this shoe after establishing that they are billions of lightyears out.
I have to admit im a bit more interested in this show now after having seeing the first episode, but im not going to fall into the support camp for awhile. On an unrelated note, Kneel before Zod! |
Sanguis Sanies
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.10.03 06:35:00 -
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Originally by: goodby4u It looks like voyager, bsg, and 24 all rolled into one.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2009.10.03 06:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jacob Mei
Personally I thought the Galactica ending was the best choice and the most realistic (technology put the remaining human population through hell for four years, if you were in their position would you really be gun ho to use technology after finally being freed of it attacking you?).
Well the problem is, that it is not an actual solution to anything. I could see some immature little children rejecting all technology, because some applications proved to be catastrophic, but not adult thinking human beings.
At best it only achieves turning back the clock. It also makes sure that all the lessons learned will be forgotten and assures the same mistakes will be repeated later on. Not to mention you have to ignore all the suffering, effort and work those advancements took to discover and how huge positive affects they have on the quality of life. You would also have to ignore the fact, that when people have information and knowledge of something dangerous and harmful, they will try to avoid it.
The best example might be the terminator series. If the problem is true AI, the obvious solution is to not create any true AIs and make precautions, so humans will in the future stay in complete control. The future portraited by the dune -series would be an alternative option, since something similar happened there. It doesn't make sense to abandon all knowledge and useful machinery, since they were actually a reason they could survive the cataclysm.
Technology is in an important sense the power of human species. Abandoning it would be like abandoning all your skills, knowledge and position of power, so you can be at the mercy of outside forces. To me a more realistic option would have been to try and learn all you could and achieve a position where you could minimize and counter past problems.
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Crewman Jenkins
Caldari Malicious Demi-Lancers
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Posted - 2009.10.03 10:02:00 -
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This did seem kind of like BSG/Stargate to me also. I even thought rush reminded me of baltar a little.
As for BSG, I liked the ending. No spare parts, ships that remind you of bad times, yea I can see them abandoning most of it.
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Jacob Mei
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.10.03 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: Destination SkillQueue
Originally by: Jacob Mei
Personally I thought the Galactica ending was the best choice and the most realistic (technology put the remaining human population through hell for four years, if you were in their position would you really be gun ho to use technology after finally being freed of it attacking you?).
Well the problem is, that it is not an actual solution to anything. I could see some immature little children rejecting all technology, because some applications proved to be catastrophic, but not adult thinking human beings.
At best it only achieves turning back the clock. It also makes sure that all the lessons learned will be forgotten and assures the same mistakes will be repeated later on. Not to mention you have to ignore all the suffering, effort and work those advancements took to discover and how huge positive affects they have on the quality of life. You would also have to ignore the fact, that when people have information and knowledge of something dangerous and harmful, they will try to avoid it.
The best example might be the terminator series. If the problem is true AI, the obvious solution is to not create any true AIs and make precautions, so humans will in the future stay in complete control. The future portraited by the dune -series would be an alternative option, since something similar happened there. It doesn't make sense to abandon all knowledge and useful machinery, since they were actually a reason they could survive the cataclysm.
Technology is in an important sense the power of human species. Abandoning it would be like abandoning all your skills, knowledge and position of power, so you can be at the mercy of outside forces. To me a more realistic option would have been to try and learn all you could and achieve a position where you could minimize and counter past problems.
The problem is your ignoring that the pinnacle of technology killed all but 28k of humanity (and that number kept getting cut down to what, 18k or something by series end?) out of several billion. We have plenty of examples of after a certain technology is used to commit mass horror or wrong its generally shirked away from (ie gas chambers as a form of execution was stopped after WW2 in the US, you wont find high powered water cannons in a riot police arsenal in the US either). Now imagine if a piece of technology came along and wiped all but a fraction of humanity out and pursued them for four years? Do you really think the survivors would want a constant reminder like that?
Yes a lot of lessons were forgotten as a result but I think its very human to decide to abandon something and ultimately be doomed to repeat it when something of that magnitude hits.
Also in regards to your example I have not read the Dune series myself (I mean too but never seem to have the time) how far did the Butlerian Jihad get in destroying out humanity (the wiki doesnĘt give any numbers)?
Think of the situation from a technical stand point as well. Look at the skill sets you have of the survivors. You had viper pilots, star ship captains, lawyers, industry workers, doctors who cant whip up medicine but relies on a ready supply, all the skill sets of a modern (if not future like) society. Where are all the skill sets and machinery needed to allow that level of civilization to continue? IE the black smiths, factory machine builders (where are the blue prints for that matter!) the pharmacists (the actual guys who make the medicine), carpenters and so forth. When you consider that they lacks these skills or have very few of them you really see that any attempt to rebuild from a lifestyle they knew would be futile.
Originally by: Crewman Jenkins This did seem kind of like BSG/Stargate to me also. I even thought rush reminded me of baltar a little.
Hopefully not a Baltar/Rodeny hybrid though, that would be crap. On an unrelated note, Kneel before Zod! |
Grek Forto
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Posted - 2009.10.03 16:03:00 -
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The pilot made me feel a bit, disappointed. They introduced the characters pretty well but I find them to be a bit bland. But any opinion I might have on the series is something I'll keep to myself until I've watched a couple of episodes.
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Sazkyen
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Posted - 2009.10.03 18:51:00 -
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Edited by: Sazkyen on 03/10/2009 18:51:08 It was a major disappointment. Metal drama and whining for 90 minutes. Uniteresting characters, no story, no science fiction and sheer boredom.
It's a serious letdown.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.10.03 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Sazkyen It's a serious letdown.
YOu were obviously expecting something other than "Generic TV scifi trash" and thus the letdown is your own fault. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2009.10.03 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Jacob Mei
Originally by: Sader Rykane Well... I saw it.
The only thing I kept thinking while watching it was...
"Is this a Battlestar Galactica remake?"
Im watching the rerun of it now and yeah, it has a distinct Galactica flavor, which isnt surprising how big of a hit Galactica was. I wont be surprised if the next few Scifi shows have similar elements.
Speaking of Galactica, Caprica comes out Jan 22 so maybe there might be something worth while to watch on fridays again soon.
I vaguely recall a series of movies called Star Wars that were also hits in their day, why don't we see those emulated more often? No it's the renaissance fair gone native in an assortment of huts and shantys with none of the sense of architecure and costume that gnome Lucas actually has.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2009.10.03 20:00:00 -
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I liked it. The senator's daughter is hot. I'd like to make her pregnant.
Robert Carlyle is the one off-factor. I can't stop seeing Begbie. I'm pining for the moment when he smashes a bottle over an alien's head.
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Emil Erlenmeyer
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Posted - 2009.10.03 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I liked it. The senator's daughter is hot. I'd like to make her pregnant.
You don't have high standars now do you?
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Karma
Vortex Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.10.03 21:26:00 -
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Edited by: Karma on 03/10/2009 21:27:19 they've used a style of filming that is *very* similar to Battlestar Galactica. both with the grittiness and the 'rabble, rabble-rabble' and political in-fighting. ("i'm the leader!", "no! I am!", "Nay! me!") they even have a token Dr. Baltar-type character.
token guest-appearances were waaaay too short, too :(
beyond that, it might get good.
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nahtoh
Caldari Vanguard Frontiers
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Posted - 2009.10.03 21:42:00 -
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Well they dealt with what *I* thought was the main deal breaker (well at least for me that is).
Not just dialing back home and to TBH they did it in a way that was beating your head in with it.
I don't really see much of a BSG theme TBH, its darker than the other SG series or most TV SciFi but thats pretty much that. ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self |
Gieron
Middleton and Mercer LLP
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Posted - 2009.10.03 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Kravick Drasani I also see a lot of Star Trek: Voyager elements, but with a lot less technobabble.
Very interesting that
I was a bit disappointed. I thought there were many cliches. Especially the senator and his sacrifice was full of them: The annoying politician. The annoying person who then becomes the hero. The problem that can only be solved by someone committing suicide. And haven't we seen the "going into shuttle closing door" sacrifice before?
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Karma
Vortex Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.10.03 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: Gieron The problem that can only be solved by someone committing suicide. And haven't we seen the "going into shuttle closing door" sacrifice before?
I was thinking .. "you got these floating balls you can control... why not push the required buttons with them? O'neill and Sheppard would've figured it out (because they'd think it would be fun!)"
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Corywyn
Caldari SWARTA
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Posted - 2009.10.03 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Karma
Originally by: Gieron The problem that can only be solved by someone committing suicide. And haven't we seen the "going into shuttle closing door" sacrifice before?
I was thinking .. "you got these floating balls you can control... why not push the required buttons with them? O'neill and Sheppard would've figured it out (because they'd think it would be fun!)"
Shepphard would have used a Golf approach though ... All in all, I liked the pilot and hope that the series is at least better than the 2nd half of SG:A :]
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Xtreem
Gallente Knockaround Guys Inc.
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Posted - 2009.10.03 22:34:00 -
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it was not awesome, however it was not bad, and i am glad to see they brought some of there ancient tech with them, although we dont know what the good ole dock really done when he took over his body on earth!
ill be staying tuned in and hoping :)
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Xen Gin
Silurian Operations
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Posted - 2009.10.03 22:35:00 -
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Edited by: Xen Gin on 03/10/2009 22:39:47 I thought it was OK, the characters for me are a let down, Eli and Rush are ok, everyone else is meh, and I can do without the 10 minutes of crying, and a sex scene 17 minutes in.
The style is ok and the CGI is superb, Stargate boundary pushing as usual.
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente Heavens Gate Consortium Distant Drums
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Posted - 2009.10.03 23:04:00 -
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Not impressed. It was not-bad enough for me to watch a few more episodes, but it's nothing special. ____________________
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Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
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Posted - 2009.10.03 23:26:00 -
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I'm curious as to how they expect to dial back to the ship from the planet... -----
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MX555
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Posted - 2009.10.04 02:25:00 -
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1. It was a little better than I expected. 2. The doctor either has not really talk to O'neill or O'neill told him to get his but back and he "hung up on him." 3. The doctor is the one who probably lead the attackers to the planets with some sorta tracking device, so they would attack and blow up the planet. Of course he did not tell them the planet would blow up, cause he already new it would take that much power to make the gate work.
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MaxxOmega
Caldari Temporal Mechanics
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Posted - 2009.10.04 02:30:00 -
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Edited by: MaxxOmega on 04/10/2009 02:33:56 At least they killed off the politician in the first episode. Too bad they didn't have a couple of lawyers they could fire out an air lock...
And they never talk about where they can take a dump or what's to eat on these shows. Like is there a freezer full of space beasts to barbecue? And I didn't see any tampon dispensers either...
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cpu939
Gallente Volatile Nature Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.10.04 04:23:00 -
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ok watched this and i have to admit some of it was funny and other was ike ok that sucked but the best bit is how do they get back tothe ship after using the star gate. 01101111 01100110 01100110 01100010 01100101 01100001 01110100 00100000 01100011 01110010 01100101 01100001 01110100 01101001 01101111 01101110 |
Epegi Givo
Amarr Araja clan
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Posted - 2009.10.04 04:58:00 -
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why didn't they use the little video droid and ram the button untill it worked? The senator guy didn't have to die. __________________________
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